Got the Cairngorm 300...stood up very well in gale force winds on Loch Ericgh...no leaks either...just needed tightened up in the morning...great tent..
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Saw your review several months ago. Finally saved up and perchased one for a little under 100 euro on eBay marketplace. Thanks for the awesome review. And am thrilled to have bought this. Look forward to future videos on this tent
It will be good to see any further updates on this. Or a comparison of other tents in the same price bracket. But for now it seems like this is the best bang for buck tent on the market right now.
I just got this tent second hand on Facebook marketplace, with a zenith footprint which the guy said is similar to the cairngorm, all for £40 😀 only used once in his garden, so I think I got a good deal! I’ve yet to go my first camping trip but I’m hoping it will be a good first time tent for me and my dog 🐕 🥰
Glad I could help. Its a well made tent don't get me wrong, but if you're looking for something sturdy I would definitely go down the geodesic tent route.
If you peg out each end corners first as wide as possible you will get less contact between the inner and outer fly, the rumpled groundsheet indicates there is still some slack in the fabric, a flat pitch helps loads, learned this after using the Zenith 300 model over the last couple of years which is exactly the same as the Cairngorm. The 200 & 300 models can be bought new for less than £100 on fleabay which is a bargain for performance, weight, price ratio.
Thanks for the comment! for the price its a decent little tent. It certainly felt well made and i'm sure if you really tensioned the guylines the outer will separate more and prevent the inner/outer contact. Hope the video was useful!
Got the same tent that I used on the last weekend in Sept in Snowdonia (with the same 5C temps). Agree about condensation, however I started to pay more attention to the tensioning and found the i could reduce the chances of the inner touching the outer. Your pitch looks quite floppy compared to how i now set mine up.
Hi, thanks for watching the video and sharing your experience with the tent! I fully agree that I could have pitched the tent with the guy lines more tensioned. It was probably down to the fact that it was a pretty new tent and I just needed to trust that the seams and stitching were up to the job and could handle some decent tension. I'll definitely keep your comment in mind and try and tension out the guy lines more next time im out. Other than that I think it's an excellent tent!
@@jboutdoors8165 I also found that you sometimes need to play around with the direction of tension on the corners if the ground is not flat. I'm making it sound a faff, which it isn't. I really like the Cairngorm!
Great tents , a two person tent is a one person tent + gear , iv tried it in extreme winds theyre fine , as is msr hubba nx2 - phoxx 11 mk 2 for half price but noisier in windy connditions ,, i pitch my cairngorm in one go , no messing about roll out peg it and pole it its up done .. storage roll it up in one done ,
Agreed, it's a solid tent for a reasonable price. I prefer to pitch outer then inner, and pack up in reverse purely to keep the inner dry when there's condensation on the outer. I need another camping trip now that the weather's nice!!!
@@jboutdoors8165 iv not had a tent yet that doesnt get condensation inside . , hilleberg akto , msr hubba nx2 , all the high end tents get it its natural , he condensation goes when the sun heats up the outer
Hi Chris, given that 4 season tents are supposed to deal with potential high winds and snow, id consider this more of a 3 person tent solely on the reason of its construction. It's a single pole tunnel tent and these tend to be less solid in high winds. As a result, it's probably safest to pitch this tent in a semi-sheltered area, Whereas a 4 season you could in theory pitch it in a open space with high winds. From a temperature point of view, however, it does keep the draft out pretty well. Justin
Hi, thanks for the comment. Having not personally owned a starlight 2 it's difficult for me to comment. But looking at the specs, they both have their advantages. The robens packs down slightly smaller than the Cairngorm however the robens also weighs more. The groundsheet on the robens is 10000hh compared to the Cairngorms 6000hh however I don't think this is an issue as 6000 is more than enough for the wettest of trips. Both have the same flysheet HH rating. I'm sure they are both very similar in usage and you'll be happy with either!
Hi mate. I'd feel comfortable in 30mph winds. Pitched into the wind and with the guy lines set a good a distance from the tent that is. Other folks have said they've used it in gale force winds (comments below). Bare in mind it is a single pole tent so it will flap around a bit. Bring ear plugs
Ideally yes, it should be stored dry. But if you're on a multi day hike it's not practical to let the tent dry out before setting out. If I know I'm pitching up the following night I just shake off condensation as much as possible and pack it, then let it dry out when I get to camp. If storing and not using the tent for a couple days you must dry it fully before packing and storing.
Update Justin - I managed to pitch the tent last night night ( with help from the brother🙈), so you can have a beer instead of showing me how 😂😂 thanks man 😁
Awesome stuff! Reading from other Cairngorm owners, the tent has to be pitched pretty taught. More so than I had it in the video I believe. I'll do a video anyway, its a good idea and hopefully others will find it useful. Happy camping!
Strange one that. I bought mine in June 2020 and I'm not aware of any new versions or changes to this tent. Will be interesting to see what others comment about this.
Used it on 2 other camp outs since the lake district. Still holds up well. Like others say, you do really need to put tension on the guy lines when pitching. Still fully waterproof, no holes in the groundsheet (i do use a tent footprint). Im very pleased with it.
Got the Cairngorm 300...stood up very well in gale force winds on Loch Ericgh...no leaks either...just needed tightened up in the morning...great tent..
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Saw your review several months ago. Finally saved up and perchased one for a little under 100 euro on eBay marketplace. Thanks for the awesome review. And am thrilled to have bought this. Look forward to future videos on this tent
Cheers and thanks for the comment. Hope you found the video useful!
@@jboutdoors8165 very useful yes thank you
sturdy and compact tent. may purchase something similar at some point.
It will be good to see any further updates on this. Or a comparison of other tents in the same price bracket. But for now it seems like this is the best bang for buck tent on the market right now.
I just got this tent second hand on Facebook marketplace, with a zenith footprint which the guy said is similar to the cairngorm, all for £40 😀 only used once in his garden, so I think I got a good deal! I’ve yet to go my first camping trip but I’m hoping it will be a good first time tent for me and my dog 🐕 🥰
£40 is a steal! And it would be a perfect size for one person and their dog. It's a great little tent and hope you enjoy it!
Justin Outdoors UK thanks! I thought so too 😊 hopefully try it out really soon before it gets too cold here in Scotland! 🙈 💜
Its basically a copy of the f10 helium , only not as light
Thanks for the review, just saved myself a few pounds so will try for a sturdier model.
Glad I could help. Its a well made tent don't get me wrong, but if you're looking for something sturdy I would definitely go down the geodesic tent route.
If you peg out each end corners first as wide as possible you will get less contact between the inner and outer fly, the rumpled groundsheet indicates there is still some slack in the fabric, a flat pitch helps loads, learned this after using the Zenith 300 model over the last couple of years which is exactly the same as the Cairngorm. The 200 & 300 models can be bought new for less than £100 on fleabay which is a bargain for performance, weight, price ratio.
Hi Phil. Thanks for this tip, I'll try this out next time for sure. Hope you found the video interesting!
Thanks for the review, I have just got one of these tents as well so it will be interesting to compare when I use it ☺️
Thanks for the comment! for the price its a decent little tent. It certainly felt well made and i'm sure if you really tensioned the guylines the outer will separate more and prevent the inner/outer contact. Hope the video was useful!
@@jboutdoors8165 yes really good thanks, just checking out your others 😁
@@stuartwalmsley1379 Cheers. Theres a few other lake district vids in production now that show the vango cairngorm in use
I bought the 100 version and filmed my effort of putting it up. However, I did struggle at first, but now I’m used to it. Great review 👍👍👍
@@Curiosityuk cheers for the comment. Takes some trial and error to get the pitch just right for sure. I'm not sure I've got mine perfect even now!
Got the same tent that I used on the last weekend in Sept in Snowdonia (with the same 5C temps). Agree about condensation, however I started to pay more attention to the tensioning and found the i could reduce the chances of the inner touching the outer. Your pitch looks quite floppy compared to how i now set mine up.
Hi, thanks for watching the video and sharing your experience with the tent!
I fully agree that I could have pitched the tent with the guy lines more tensioned. It was probably down to the fact that it was a pretty new tent and I just needed to trust that the seams and stitching were up to the job and could handle some decent tension. I'll definitely keep your comment in mind and try and tension out the guy lines more next time im out. Other than that I think it's an excellent tent!
@@jboutdoors8165 I also found that you sometimes need to play around with the direction of tension on the corners if the ground is not flat. I'm making it sound a faff, which it isn't. I really like the Cairngorm!
i have a tendancy to tighten mine like a guitar string .. it helps a lot
Great tents , a two person tent is a one person tent + gear , iv tried it in extreme winds theyre fine , as is msr hubba nx2 - phoxx 11 mk 2 for half price but noisier in windy connditions ,, i pitch my cairngorm in one go , no messing about roll out peg it and pole it its up done .. storage roll it up in one done ,
Agreed, it's a solid tent for a reasonable price. I prefer to pitch outer then inner, and pack up in reverse purely to keep the inner dry when there's condensation on the outer. I need another camping trip now that the weather's nice!!!
@@jboutdoors8165 iv not had a tent yet that doesnt get condensation inside . , hilleberg akto , msr hubba nx2 , all the high end tents get it its natural , he condensation goes when the sun heats up the outer
@@joekelly9369 That's true, the only time i haven't is when camped in a valley with wind running through the ventilation holes!
Heard this one was a good one. Just not sure whether to go for a cheaper alternative or not.
Got mine when it was just out for £100. For that money i think its a good price, especially considering that it only weighs 2kg!
Thanks for the review. Is it a 3 or 4 season tent? As your review showed no mesh I am guessing it's 4 season. Hopefully you can clarify. Regards Chris
Hi Chris, given that 4 season tents are supposed to deal with potential high winds and snow, id consider this more of a 3 person tent solely on the reason of its construction. It's a single pole tunnel tent and these tend to be less solid in high winds. As a result, it's probably safest to pitch this tent in a semi-sheltered area, Whereas a 4 season you could in theory pitch it in a open space with high winds. From a temperature point of view, however, it does keep the draft out pretty well.
Justin
Thanks for the video! I have a little question... it's this tent similar to the Robens Starlight 2? Greetings from Germany ✌🏻
Hi, thanks for the comment. Having not personally owned a starlight 2 it's difficult for me to comment. But looking at the specs, they both have their advantages. The robens packs down slightly smaller than the Cairngorm however the robens also weighs more. The groundsheet on the robens is 10000hh compared to the Cairngorms 6000hh however I don't think this is an issue as 6000 is more than enough for the wettest of trips. Both have the same flysheet HH rating. I'm sure they are both very similar in usage and you'll be happy with either!
Any updates on how this tent holds up in wind? What would you say would be the max wind you would use it in?
Hi mate. I'd feel comfortable in 30mph winds. Pitched into the wind and with the guy lines set a good a distance from the tent that is. Other folks have said they've used it in gale force winds (comments below). Bare in mind it is a single pole tent so it will flap around a bit. Bring ear plugs
Why would you store the outer sheet in a waterproof bag? Shouldn’t it be stored dried?
Ideally yes, it should be stored dry. But if you're on a multi day hike it's not practical to let the tent dry out before setting out. If I know I'm pitching up the following night I just shake off condensation as much as possible and pack it, then let it dry out when I get to camp. If storing and not using the tent for a couple days you must dry it fully before packing and storing.
Update Justin - I managed to pitch the tent last night night ( with help from the brother🙈), so you can have a beer instead of showing me how 😂😂 thanks man 😁
Awesome stuff! Reading from other Cairngorm owners, the tent has to be pitched pretty taught. More so than I had it in the video I believe. I'll do a video anyway, its a good idea and hopefully others will find it useful. Happy camping!
Cheers Justin - apologies I only saw this reply from you now ( don't know how 💁♂️) anyway thanks & all's good with the tent 👍👍
Please do a video of putting it up, I'm a dome tent fossil & bought 1 & haven't a breeze how to pitch it, so I'm losing out 😕
Hi Kevin, I can certainly do this. Im half way through making another video but if the weather permits i will do a video on pitching this tent :)
@@jboutdoors8165 you're a star Justin thanks, loving the content 👍
i have this tent, but it doesnt have that pocket in the roof
Strange one that. I bought mine in June 2020 and I'm not aware of any new versions or changes to this tent. Will be interesting to see what others comment about this.
Any updates on the tent how is it?
Used it on 2 other camp outs since the lake district. Still holds up well. Like others say, you do really need to put tension on the guy lines when pitching. Still fully waterproof, no holes in the groundsheet (i do use a tent footprint). Im very pleased with it.
With a word like review in the title I was hoping to see the pack size, it’s kind of a big deal.
Thanks for the comment! Any questions don't hesitate to ask!
Take a large orange, cube it and make it the length of two and a half bananas and you have your pack size
@@Finzean😂😂
Slacken band off and put it over the inner tent not through it , works ok.