Magnetizing Knights - Chaos AND Imperial (they're pretty much the same)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ค. 2022
- With the new Chaos Knight Army Box that has the new Knight Abominant I thought I'd share just how easy it is to magnetize all the Big Knights, Chaos and Imperial.
All you need is 8mm round by 2mm thick magnets, one for the shoulder joint and 2x for every weapon you want to magnetize.
Oh and you'll need something to remove the piece from the shoulder, the Tamiya Saw is the best I've found.
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Bro, this is waaay easier than I thought. I am currently building my first Knight and this is so satisfying to do!
Thank you for the great guide.
Cheers mate, Knights are almost the best model to build. All they needed was posable legs... But they are super simple to magnetise so I suppose that makes up for it
Just got into the hobby, and I've been beating myself up about what weapons to put on my knights, thanks to you you I can now put magnets in them!
Welcome to the hobby! Knights are fun to collect. I've a video on how to magnetise the smaller armiger Knights to, so check that out as well.
It’s not like there’s much to it; Knights are the most rigid units in terms of wargear. No mixing and matching
True to an extent, each knight has a specific layout, but the same kit can build them all so magnetising them let's you change which of the types you want to play.
This has to be the best video on knight magnetising a knight I have seen to date, solely because you show where to built upto for the arms unlike a certain spikey bit and the shoulder as a key and also the best way to get them ready and for the other magnets is something I probably would have done and questioned myself over but seeing it here makes me less anxious because you did it and it looked good.
Also Holy Hell does you knight scheme look amazing.
Great to see this, got myself a Canis Rex to fully magnetise as a side project!
Nice. I'm planning on trying to do a swap between Imperial and chaos Knights to make a more unique build of each.
I think the torsos should work, plus all the armour should swap around ok so I can use the class legs to make my preceptor.
That's the plan anyway
Thank you for you magnetizing guide, it's given me the confidence to grab and start my own knight army. As i've started magnetizing i've found that, on the armigers, all you need is the 5mmx2mm magnets for the guns and, using a 5/32's drill bit will fit a 4mmx2mm magnet perfectly
Glad you found it useful! Knights are definitely the best models to magnetise just cos of the cost of the model if nothing else. Plus it's so easy to do it just makes sense.
I did a video on the armigers as well but it was a while ago, not sure if you saw that one. They're super easy to do as well.
Easily the best tutorial there is!
Getting into the game myself, and want to build knights along side admech, and after i saw one guy magnetize his weapons, I knew I wanted to do the same! But, good god, there are so many useless or overly complex guides out there.
Sweet and simply, and you're an entertaining bloke as well. Thanks a bunch!
High praise indeed! Glad you found it useful.
I'm trying to do the Questoris Knights, but the piece that goes into the weapon and connects to the shoulder joints uses the same part for all the weapons so there is not enough to make it in the way you showed.
Brilliant video thank you man! Been toying with getting an Abominant for ages, this has swayed me towards getting one 😄👍🏼
I love the bigger models like the Knights. Feels more fun to build one big thing taking care to get it perfect than when you get to your 20th infantry model and you just can't care quite as much ;)
@@GoodEnoughWargaming As somehow also collects Guard, I feel that repetitive pain in my soul 🤣
you can also magnetize the storm spear and iron storm missle pods with two 5mm magnets in the back side, I stack 3 10x3mm magnets inside the pod and the magnetic field alone is strong enough to hold either of the options in place easly swap out one for the other.
While this video still left many questions to be answerd to figure out my self. it still answerd enough to get me started which is nice.
or good enough i guess xD
What questions did I miss? Always keen to include as much as I can.
Just managed to find a knight on sale at a local hobby shop. Absolutely using this guide to get it set up!
Good luck. Take your time and you should be fine
One thing to consider is magnetizing the battle cannon and thermal cannon for the Paladin and Errant since they use the same frame although you could just build one of each if you own multiple knights to remove that headache.
Yeah, I actually did that but forgot to mention it in the video cos I'm an idiot.
It's fairly easy to do, but I really should have mentioned it.
@@GoodEnoughWargaming nice video mate. Any chance you could explain how you managed this? I'd like to do the same but a bit lost
What you do is not glue the gun to the shield, you can put a magnet on the shield part then a matching magnet inside the gun.
I used 12mm X 2mm iirc which is good enough to hold it in place
@@GoodEnoughWargaming thanks mate!
Cool vid I will make use of this at some stage thanks!
Geat guide. Thank you.
Thanks for watching! Hope it helps you.
Great video my friend, thanks for sharing 👍
Haven't bought my first Questoris yet, so just wondering if you get enough pieces in a single set of sprues to magnetise every available weapon?
Cheers
If you mean the forge world ones, I'm not sure. Haven't got one.
But the normal plastic Knights have all the parts to make all the guns.
Great timing as I've the Chaos Knights box to build and I'll be magnetising them 😁 you never mentioned why the shoulder armour panels weren't attached, I thought that would come up again and I'm intrigued lol ??
I was planning on going into detail on my plan to swap bits of a class knight with some imperials. I want to make an imperial Knight with the chaos legs for a preceptor. Meant to show the carapaces are interchangeable but then didn't want the video getting sidetracked so I edited it out.
@@GoodEnoughWargaming haha fair enough, sounds like another video idea then 😃
Yeah, dunno when I'll get round to it. Depends on new releases over the summer.
For a stronger pull and longer effective magnetisation of the magnets themselves, it helps to have a nailhead circle on the "gun" and "armor plates" instead of another magnet, that way the polarity isn't lost over time as it's just magnetic pull in one direction, and not in both.
rare earth magnets usually last a pretty long time
Great video! Thanks for sharing. I just did your magnetization for my Knight Abominant and it worked perfectly. Thanks
Did you come up with a way to stop the big guns from turning around the magnet? Mine tend to just swivel inward and droop down
Are the magnets meeting flush or is there a small gap stopping them touching? I don't get the gun droop on mine..
I just found that the smooth magnets and the weight of the guns tend to drag the guns down. I put a bit of textured paint on both surfaces and it seems to stop the rotation. 👍🏻
Did you ever remember what size magnets you used for the top of the knights? Just got the chainbreaker lance box and I'm trying to get all the supplies I need for magnetization before building. Thanks!
I think it was 10mm glued underneath it. Might have been 10 inside the pod as well. Might have been 8. Can't remember sorry.
You should get some of every size anyway! Magnets are fun!
So boxing chaos knights is possible?
Anyway, I always love how kits can be magnetized, the possibility beyond what we can imagine
This is the best guide i've seen so far!
So you don't bother with magnetising the different weapon options that use the same "chassis" ie. the Thermal Cannon, Battle Cannon & Las-Impulsor?
You can, doing the different barrels to the common chassis isn't that hard. The gap is big enough so you can stick fairly large magnets in so it won't fall off. But then you're left with the problem of all the other bits you normally glue to the chassis (fuel tanks etc). If you're happy to leave them off then go for it ;)
So should I do the shoulder last?! 😮😂
Jkjk. Amazing video! Ty
in one part of the description you mention only needing 8x2 magnets but theres also a link to 12x2s i cant find those anywhere but i can find the 8x2s, what are the 12x2s needed for?
I would like to say thank you for this video, I have magnitzed my own knight and its glorious. I have one more question, would with work with the valiant class of nice? ( the weapons look bigger so I am just worried.)
I did my castellan knight the same way. I think the magnets are bigger but I can't remember it was a couple of year ago. If you look at pictures of the sprues on the GW page you can see it has the same basic shape of bits for the joint.
By the way, if you do not glue the body and legs, then it will be easier to transport them in boxes... 🤔🤔
Damn that was suuper helpful :D
Thank you!
Great video and really helpful but I was wondering how you go about magnetising the shield bit at the base of many of the guns to the bit that attaches to the shoulder. As in making it so that the shield at the base of the thermal cannon can be taken off and the shield for the auto cannon can be put on instead
What I did for that was to put a large (12mm if I recall correctly) into each part.I don't think they quite touched but they got close enough to hold. You can always use green stuff to pad it out so magnets would touch.
@@GoodEnoughWargaming does the height of the 12mm matter or should 12 by 2’s be fine
I'm working from memory here but 2mm should be fine
How did you paint your knights, because they look amazing and I would love to use the color?
The green is my own method. What you do is paint a base coat of a bright metallic silver. Then you use acrylic gloss medium mixed with a drop or two of artist acrylic ink. You thin that to go through an air brush and carefully build up a layer of that on top of the silver.
I keep meaning to do a video on it at some point...
@@GoodEnoughWargaming Thank You
What about the different rocket pod facias? Thanks for the videos!
You can use small magnets to hold them in place, it doesn't need much since they are not really handled that much. But to be honest it's probably overkill, I can't remember which rockets are which anyway...
Is there a standard for which way the north end of the magnets go? I was going to go for North pointing iN towards the body, and sOUTh pointing OUT.
You could buy a magnet that's got different colours for the north and south poles and use that as a master. I usually don't care that much about North South, I just try to make sure all models that will use the same weapons are magnetised the same way. Like I'd do my tau battle suits all the same, but I don't care if they match my Imperial Knights for example.
Out of curiosity what size did you use for the sheild and small gun? Also what size did you use in the waist?
The small gun and shield are ready enough, if you look at the small part you glue on to hold the gun/shield there's a small indent on the top you glue a magnet into. I think I did 4mm. Then you snip the part that would go into the holder off, and glue a little magnet on top. I think it's 2mm. You should get a few 2mm, 3mm and 4mm magnets for your magnetising tool box anyway, so you just check to see which is best.
The body is simple too. You use a file to open the hole in the bottom of the body so a 6mm magnet with juuuuust fit through. Then you glue a big magnet on the inside of the body over the hole. Like 10mm x 2mm. Then you can file down the round dome on the legs until a 6mm x 2mm magnet can be glued on top to fit and connect to the magnet on the body.
Honestly, it's probably not worth it. If you want to transport Knights get a really useful box big enough to hold them and put them in that for transport.
How many of each magnet do you need? Thanks
How many of the magnets do I need?
So how do you get around the issue of only having enough elbow joints for one gun. It is all well and good to magnetize the shoulder joint, but the thermal Cannon, rapid fire Cannon, and the Gatling Cannon all use the same elbow and only one left and right comes in the kit.
It's just the thermal cannon and battle cannon that share bits. You can magnetise the gun from the shield part so you can glue the barrels to their shield and put a magnet in that then a matching magnet in the body of the gun so you can swap between them. The gatling cannon is on another sprue and has it's own bits. You can see them if you look at the pictures of the sprues on the gw store
Plus your can just 3d print more guns, that's what I've done for the cerastus knights ;)
Do you have to buy additional gun joints to have multiple attachments?
No. The normal build instructions mean you glue the gun around the shoulder post, to magnetise you cut the end off the shoulder post and replace it with a magnet then you put a magnet inside the gun where the shoulder post would usually be (making sure to watch out for the polarity of the magnets).
That way you can do all the weapons with the two shoulder posts that come in the kit
The paint scheme on that knight is perfection. How did you do it?
The basic idea is ready enough but it can be a bit tricky to get used to do practice on a few pieces/models you can easily strip down.
What you do is start with a metallic base layer, brighter the better but you can use darker shades in the recesses or give it a nuln oil gloss shade.
Then you take a gloss acrylic medium and add some artists ink to it. You want transparent inks if you can. You don't need much, just a few drops per blob of medium. I used a spare dropper bottle to mix it up. Think they were 15ml. Been a while since I did it so might be off on the ratios, but iirc I filled the dropper bottle about a third full of medium then added a few drops of ink. Then topped the bottle up with distilled water.
I used it in an airbrush so it was further thinned in that. You need to do multiple thin coats to get the effect. I was planning on revising it for a video at some point so I'll do more experimentation for that.
@@GoodEnoughWargaming I neeeed to know the paints you used exactly so I can step by step recreate that color!!
Honestly it was a green ink from a cheap set of artists acrylic inks off Amazon.
I'm not sure if it even has a name beyond "green". I'll check when I get back home (I'm away for the weekend)
@@GoodEnoughWargaming alright! Thanks man. I am trying to build a knight ally for my Dark angels army and I wanted a similar color scheme to yours, maybe slightly darker green, but I love that glossy sheen
I'm planning on doing a video on it at some point, but I've been saying that for a very long time...
Building my first Chaos Knight soon, so this is a life saver.
Quick question though. Is there enough joints to be able to do this for each gun in the Questoris/Knight Despoiler kit? Or will I have to acquire more of the joints that the big guns are built around?
Each gun is built to go around the joint so if you do it this way you can use all the guns
Plus if you're consistent across all your Knights you can swap between models
@@GoodEnoughWargamingRight, but now that I've opened up my kit, I am seeing that there's not enough pieces in one set to be able to magnetize all of the weapons. There's three right arm weapons, but only one of the lower arm/elbow joints to connect them with.
The pieces I'm talking about are 20 and 21 on the Knight Questoris kit
You can put a magnet in the gun base and a matching one in the shield/barrel assembly (pieces 13 and 24) so you can switch between the battle cannon and the thermal cannon. You need to decide which of the ammo packs to attach to the base but it probably doesn't make a huge diffetence
Can't remember the size of the magnet I used, think it was either 10mm or 12mm
Ooh you're right. I hadn't thought about that. My apologies
are the 8x2 strong enough or would you go extra mile to put in 10x2 now?
Depends on what you want. I don't like the magnets to snap togetherness too forcefully, just be strong enough to stay put when you pick up the model and put it back down again, and the 8x2s are fine for that.
I am having issue ..i cant find magnet that dont break apart .. is there à brand better than the other.. Just by moviin the magnet they break in my finger.
Magnets will break if you let them bang together with to much force. If you're getting ones that break just by handling them, you might have a bad batch.
I usually just get the cheapest ones from Amazon and I haven't had too many break.
@@GoodEnoughWargaming ha ok ! then i probably had a bad batch .i Will try an other one thank you verry much for your answer!! Amazing tutorial btw following it was easy !!
Hello, i'm having a bit of an issue. It turns out that when you cut the shoulder joint piece to place a magnet, there is a bit of a hole underneath. But since the magnet is slightly bigger, i think that it should stick as yours do. However, i cannot get the magnet glued on there in a solid way : when i stick one of the magnetized weapons, the magnet from that weapon always seems to pull the shoulder magnet with it despite the glue.
Is this a problem with my glue? Should i use a stronger glue? Or is there something i missed?
What sort of glue are you using? Super glue (ca glue) is what you need to stick the magnet.
If the hole is a problem, you could either fill it with green stuff or find a magnet that just fits in the hole (you might need to file it a little) then you glue the magnet into the hole then glue the larger magnet on top.
@@GoodEnoughWargaming I think it may be the glue indeed, it's not super glue, it's similar to what GW provides, a plastic glue but in a larger format.
I'll try some super glue next, thank you very much!
Nice! Where do you get the magnets?
I just get them off Amazon, you could probably find cheaper on eBay or whatever if you're willing to wait for shipping, but I'm impatient.
@@GoodEnoughWargaming thanks for the intel
What size magnet do I need to magnetize the armiger class knight weapons?
6mm. Here's a video I did on magnetising them
th-cam.com/video/em34mw4ZuXs/w-d-xo.html
@@GoodEnoughWargaming perfect, thanks.
Hope it helps. The new wardogs work exactly the same way as the armigers, so all the weapons are interchangeable.
@@GoodEnoughWargaming perfect, now I just need the magnets.
How did you get your paint so shiny?!
It's my own special recipe! Basically you start with a nice bright metallic bar layer, then you take some artist gloss medium and acrylic ink, thinned down to go through the air brush. You build that up very gently until you get the desired effect
what kind of superglue did you use for the magnets, im assuming its not plain ol' plastic cement right?
No, plastic cement won't stick to the magnets. Super glue is the genetic term used in the UK for cyanoacrylate (CA) glue.
Basically if it'll glue your fingers together when you mess up, it'll do the job ;)
@@GoodEnoughWargaming thanks my dude building my first knight and i want to try my hand at magnetizing
Just make sure to double check polarity for every magnet :)
I was interested what super glue you were using
Cheapest stuff I could find. I've never noticed a difference in the expensive stuff and the cheap.
Gel support glue is a bit easier to work with.
Just remember you don't need much at all, in fact more is often worse than less.
What size magnets am i going to need for my chaos wardogs??
I did a video on magnetising the normal armiger Knights, the wardogs are pretty much the same.
th-cam.com/video/em34mw4ZuXs/w-d-xo.html
You can swap weapons back and forth between the armigers and the wardogs. It's a nice design.
@@GoodEnoughWargaming thanks,i wasnt sure if the connections for the weapons to the arms were the same size, ill go check out the other video now!.
How can you magnetize them to make them a chaos or imperial knights?
sorry, missed you question.
the chaos knights have similar layouts to the imperial ones, so if you magnetize then you can run them as either.
if you want them to look chaos then you'd need to do some conversion work. but it';s chaos so just remove any imperial insignias and add more spikes.
What you can do is try swapping the legs around. the torsos are interchangable so you can use the new leg style from the chaos kit and the torso from the imperial kit and make a different look. it;s annoying how they did the legs of the imperial knight kit so they all look the same...
Does this allow for all weapon options from a single kit?
So long as the weapons are in the kit. I think the imperial knight crusader kit has them all in there, and this method will let you swap between all the ones in that kit (and whatever else you can source, like third party ones or 3d printed or whatever)
@@GoodEnoughWargaming Okk I’m trying to figure this out as I have a second hand leftover kit with an extra set of each shield.
you said you stopped yourself from magnetizing the heads, but how would you go about doing them. the chaos abominant has SEVERAL variant masks.
You can't really do the masks. I was more talking about the actual head by gluing the ring it goes in into place, gluing a magnet on top then cutting that part of the head and replacing it with a magnet as well, so it would just set into place.
The masks can't really be done.
I settled on using a small blob of poster tack to change out masks. It works fine, and with varnish on the face/forehead you won't pull paint. It might droop after like...a few weeks of not being touched. But for changing masks for a game, or because maybe you used a relic mask, whatever your reasoning is, it will stay in place for the game for sure.
Originally I looked at magnets but it was too janky. I saw a guy on reddit do it, the forehead had what looked like a 3mm magnet right on the brow. His masks were interchangeable but if he wanted to do maskless, the face was ruined.
Am I only able to do this with a couple of guns?
You can magnetise all the guns on the model this way so you can equip it with whatever your want.
Currently helping build my son's Knight (he's 8 almost 9 and definitely following dad and myself in the hobby) we are wanting to do this but GW only give you two arm joints, would anyone know where we can get spares tried ebay no luck, like I said he's 8 so it's taken birthday, Christmas and pocket money to buy this thing and the more use out of it would be amazing.
You don't need multiple arm joints if you magnetise, the magnets mean you can just swap the weapon parts around instead
@@GoodEnoughWargaming sorry, realised I said arm joints mean the weapon joints you still only get two of these in the box with the knight, would you know somewhere that I could get extra weapon joints.
Did you use plastic glue to stick the magnets on?
Super glue. Plastic glue doesn't work even if one of the bits you're gluing is plastic, has to be all plastic for it to work
"Did you use plastic glue to stick the magnets on"
lol
I've been meaning to experiment with using plastic glue and bits of sprue to encase the magnets in place so you don't even see them... Haven't got round to it yet tho