I like it. Well broken down. I would like you to do more playing of masterpieces in the key of C. There's so much to learn from you. Thank you very much for the video.
Yes, I was about to write the same comment as yours. I really don't understand where he got this idea from. (V of V) to V is very common in music, even today.
@@klawei5061 I can still remember where I was when I first heard a secondary dominant. I was in my living room trying to follow a keys player on guitar. It blew me away and I asked him what it was; to which he replied, “Oh it’s just a secondary dominant!” 😂 Music is so beautiful, so wonderful! 🎹
Nice. I heard "Somewhere out There" and "Somebody to Love" as you were running through classical examples. Pop (and rock) hits are no longer as melodic or harmonically pleasing. Yes that's a common refrain (😁) but it's true.
Its not quite the progression but Jungle Falls from Diddy Kong Racing, towards the end of the loop at 0:50 has something similar, it hangs on the II then jumps to the backdoor dominant and does a bunch of plagal cadences to reach the I Not sure if you'd take bVII as a substitute for V but I think that II captures that same majestic tone Give a look, has that classic rock sound you captured in your Plagal video
Creo que está usted en lo cierto: esa progresión es "mágica", y además, imprescindible. Quizá la respuesta a lo que usted plantea (el porqué se emplea poco en la música moderna actual) sea en realidad más simple de lo que parece: porque la gran mayoría de los que componen canciones pretenden sonar "sofisticados" (lo logren o no), y la progresión de la que usted habla, precisamente por su antiguo uso tan extenso, les suena demasiado elemental, e incluso "simple". Pero sea cual sea el motivo, vuelvo a decir que esa progresión me parece imprescindible.
Well, you CAN certainly view it that way. But my real question is: why has it "fallen out of favor" and why don't we hear it almost at all in modern pop/rock music? And when I say modern, I mean the past four decades or so!
tried something similar recently. I often practice chords c mj -> f mj -> b dimin -> e min -> a min -> d min -> g mix. -> cmj. Now when doing this for a while, instead go from amin -> d mix. -> g maj. nice way to switch keys.
@@MangoldProject I didn't look at the faces, I read the "I-II-V". With the piece being so popular (everyone hear it nonstop on graduations) that's the one example that comes to my mind first.
It may well be useless to you Lawrence but please have some Merci on the rest of us; this guy has been a huge blessing to me, as an aspiring keys player, for many years. Also, as you mentioned, his playing is so beautiful
To be honest I don't hear neither a lot of melodies nor harmonies in the last 20 years. Just like in cinema. Mostly special effects but nearly no interesting story.
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If you have songs that use the I-II-V, post them as a reply to this comment so we can all find them!
The Batman (2022) - Funeral and Far Between.
Last cadence, i v vi° II v
Very well explained! Thanks
I like it. Well broken down. I would like you to do more playing of masterpieces in the key of C. There's so much to learn from you. Thank you very much for the video.
5:35 to 5:46: In ‘modern’ harmony, you would simply consider that you’ve temporarily changed key. A-7 > D > G is ii>V>I in the key of G.
Don't know what's so special about it. Isn't it just a secondary dominant, a V of V in this case? You can hear it everywhere.
Yes, I was about to write the same comment as yours. I really don't understand where he got this idea from. (V of V) to V is very common in music, even today.
I think the point is; usually it’s
I-ii(minor)-V instead of I-II(Major)-V
Allow me to correct myself: it’s ii(minor)-V-I
Instead of II(Major)-V-I, the latter progression sounds very different and refreshing.
Yes, of course it's a harmonically simple idea.
Now, try finding 5 songs from the last 10 years that a I-II-V.
@@klawei5061 I can still remember where I was when I first heard a secondary dominant. I was in my living room trying to follow a keys player on guitar. It blew me away and I asked him what it was; to which he replied, “Oh it’s just a secondary dominant!” 😂
Music is so beautiful, so wonderful! 🎹
The moment I hear those three chords, it seems obvious that we are playing in D Mixolydian. A huge number of famous rock and pop songs do thi.s
Wouldn't a D mixolydian place your tonal center at D? To me, that doesn't seem to be the case.
Nice. I heard "Somewhere out There" and "Somebody to Love" as you were running through classical examples. Pop (and rock) hits are no longer as melodic or harmonically pleasing. Yes that's a common refrain (😁) but it's true.
Its not quite the progression but Jungle Falls from Diddy Kong Racing, towards the end of the loop at 0:50 has something similar, it hangs on the II then jumps to the backdoor dominant and does a bunch of plagal cadences to reach the I
Not sure if you'd take bVII as a substitute for V but I think that II captures that same majestic tone
Give a look, has that classic rock sound you captured in your Plagal video
Creo que está usted en lo cierto: esa progresión es "mágica", y además, imprescindible. Quizá la respuesta a lo que usted plantea (el porqué se emplea poco en la música moderna actual) sea en realidad más simple de lo que parece: porque la gran mayoría de los que componen canciones pretenden sonar "sofisticados" (lo logren o no), y la progresión de la que usted habla, precisamente por su antiguo uso tan extenso, les suena demasiado elemental, e incluso "simple". Pero sea cual sea el motivo, vuelvo a decir que esa progresión me parece imprescindible.
Do you know if it's the same progression used in the song 'Piano Man' by Billy Joel?
Timestamp?
Thank you I love this!
Squeezz 'Take me I'm yours' I think
That's a song in a minor key, so I'm surprised you'd say that. Can you provide a link & timestamp?
why is it not a 4 5 1 in the key of G Major?
Well, you CAN certainly view it that way.
But my real question is: why has it "fallen out of favor" and why don't we hear it almost at all in modern pop/rock music? And when I say modern, I mean the past four decades or so!
Would this just be starting playing in the C lydian mode and ending in G Ionian mode? We can do this with lots of the modes i think!
tried something similar recently. I often practice chords c mj -> f mj -> b dimin -> e min -> a min -> d min -> g mix. -> cmj. Now when doing this for a while, instead go from amin -> d mix. -> g maj. nice way to switch keys.
Interesting point. As a matter of fact I have created a song a few months ago, beginning with this same exact progression!!!
😍
I'm surprised a V of V would not be used anymore.
I will pay more attention...
Nice.
C-D movement creates energy and brightness, it propels a progression forward, maybe this progression sounds too optimistic for modern day songs.
Interesting (and bleak) take on modern songwriting.
Saw the thumbnail, clicked on it expecting Pomp and Circumstance, was disappointed.
But there was no picture of Elgar in the thumbnail ...
@@MangoldProject I didn't look at the faces, I read the "I-II-V". With the piece being so popular (everyone hear it nonstop on graduations) that's the one example that comes to my mind first.
is this content?
Anything that makes you think! Yep!
is this a comment?
i cant't seethe point. the C you're playing is actually an Am, so the progression is Am/D7/G. good ol' II/V/I.
What tool provide automatic live chord analysis?
Chordie app
Chordify and Chord AI
This.
For a useless video, it sounded great!
Merci.
Bach, Beethoven, ABBA and Freddie Mercury. The great Classical composers.
It may well be useless to you Lawrence but please have some Merci on the rest of us; this guy has been a huge blessing to me, as an aspiring keys player, for many years. Also, as you mentioned, his playing is so beautiful
Excellent video for those of us who are learning and not snobs who display their immaturity by criticizing others.
Ouch :)
1:49 First time I realized that B is the only chord that is diminished when going up the degrees of C on the white keys. What a strange thing.
To be honest I don't hear neither a lot of melodies nor harmonies in the last 20 years. Just like in cinema. Mostly special effects but nearly no interesting story.
Try listening to to different music and watching different films.