SOUND BURGER & the clones
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มี.ค. 2018
- A look at the Audio Technica Sound Burger (AKA Mister Disc) - a deceptively good portable battery-powered record player from 1983.
In the video I replace the belts, as well as take a look at a Crosley clone of the Soundburger, The Revolution - or it's more than likely that it's really a clone of a Crosley clone of the Soundburger.
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MUSIC
Hugh Masekela - Tomorrow (Album)
CORRECTIONS
Updated 14 March 2018
Substitute the word "Tally" with the word "Tare" in the section when I measure the tracking force on the green garbage turntable.
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There were two Crosley revolutions, the CR6002A and the CR6020A
The one in this video is supposed to be the CR6020A
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cool
"The Sound Crocodile doesn't exist."
My disappointment is immeasurable.
and my day is ruined
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
shut the fuck up redditor
@@flag_guy silence, food
@@flag_guy someone's salty
I used to play bass for Sound Burger & The Clones.
Anderson Helms Hey ! I remember you , you owe me 10$ that I gave you after the concert in Birmingham. Btw I still listen to your music , 1st album is a classic.
You stole that.
That ought to be $10 adjusted for inflation, with interest.
Hey, better you than me, pal. Know what I mean?
Yeah, that was when you got all jealous over my killer triangle solo and stomped off stage. You are just gonna have to get over it.
A counterfeit Crosley?
That's like pretending to be the guys who pretended to sing in Milli Vanilli.
8:33 a "headphone out." What a remarkable invention! I wonder when our smartphone makers will put this brilliant invention on our phones!
Ex dee dee le headphone jack iphone. Guess I’ll keep repeating this joke its so funny
*Android phones do have headphone out.
They are starting to sell it as an accessory, maybe someday they will put it on the phone itself?
Electro Potato: Only some of them.
My Moto X has a headphone jack! But nobody likes Moto X . .
Sound Burger and The Clones is a great name for a band
Retro Beagle Too "new-wave"....
You can create infinite cool band names on the "Someone and The Things" pattern
Electro Potato
"Someone and the things" sounds like very experimental music
There is somebody in the comments who used to play with them
Looks like someone else had the same thought
Crosley is an old Welsh word that means "Soon to be found on the shelf at Goodwill."
Cheap Chinese knockoff of a cheap Japanese design. Both models should be fried wherever spotted.
Am Welsh can confirm
Vinyl in general should burn. BURN! BUUUURRRRRRRRRN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same translation in 'Merica
They don't have goodwill in wales. Must translate to "Soon to be found on the shelf at the BHF shop"
17:11 It's nice to know that Crosleys come with a built in bass synthesizer!
sounds like a fart lol :)))))
@@lhzawkr u 7 years old???
"It's almost as though someone with a very vague memory of the Sound Burger from their childhood had rung up a factory to try and get it manufactured again and tried to describe it to them over the phone but unfortunately the two people spoke different languages and the phone line was very crackly, but the factory decided to press on anyway despite the fact the first chap had got the wrong number and actually rung up a factory that only ever made shoes before."
~Techmoan, 2018
I would like this comment, but it's at 69 likes already
Nice
@@peregrinefalcon78 someone ruined it so i can like it now
@@memmoman Damnit
@@peregrinefalcon78 yeah :(
I think the Sound Burger looks great in yellow, so 80's!
Liofa sounds like 💩 though
I like the yellow to. Though I admit that when I first saw it I though it was a cheep gimmick. But seem that the original device was pretty decent. And if I got one today I would likely want it in yellow.
It would look great paired with the yellow Sony Sports Walkman line... I had a cassette Sports Walkman with auto reverse, that sucker was so very efficient with battery life.
The other machine (with the two big buttons) looked good, too.
+DashCamAndy I loved mine. I even used old batteries they threw out at Kodak from the once use cameras and i could play cassettes for a month on the same 2 old batteries and nobody believed me.
That crossley plays dubstep without any records.
Its Flatulent
Your channel really got me into record players, and I finally purchased a Victrola unit and some records. Couldn't be happier with my new hobby, thank you! 😊
By happenstance . . I,v amassed a small collection of (all working) . . small Oz made "compact" record players . . those things are cool as fuck , got a working Kriesler Mini -mate 11-105 yesterday , the model coming after that (1966) deal was called the "Disco" . . gotta love those old timers (!) have a few (this is an transistor) . . but they still put out valve amp compacts (like HMV s Mini gram . . around that time . . which has an unique sound ) but yeah . . paired with old records they are time capsules .
The speed calibration disc just fascinates me. I never knew it existed.
The record played at 10:57 18:03 & 18:42 is Hugh Masekela - Tomorrow
Info below copied from *Video Description Text Box*
CORRECTIONS
Substitute the word "Tally" with the word "Tare" in the section when I measure the tracking force on the green garbage turntable.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
There were two Crosley revolutions, the CR6002A and the CR6020A
The one in this video is supposed to be the CR6020A
SPARES
Stylus www.stylusplus.co.uk/audio-technica-atn-103-stylus-3810-p.asp
Belts www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audio-Technica-AT-727-Sound-Burger-Belt-Kit-2-Belts/331723247125
Strobe Discs
Search for Strobe Disc on eBay (or your preferred shopping platform) - mine is made by Pro-Ject and has 50Hz on the outer rings - models are also available with 60Hz on the outer rings.
Techmoan Thanks!
Techmoan quick thing: resetting the weight of a scale is called "tare"ing, not tallying.
Awesome videos!
Less reviews on turntables more reviews on cd players grr
What vibraphone track is playing before 10:57? Thanks!
Techmoan actually I meant Joe Morello's It About Time. Didn't notice it until I re-watchwed the video. Thanks anyway and the video is great a usual!
I still want the Sound Crocodile and the Sound Coffee Cup :-(
I'm glad you showed comparisons to how much it cost relative to other products from the same time period. I hate when people just show how much it would cost in today's money because it's not 100% accurate. Showing comparisons instead is a much more accurate and relatable way to do it.
Actually, interesting story about my Sound Burger. When it was given to me, I thought I should change the stylus. So I took it to the only shop where I lived that I felt could sell me what I needed. I felt I had to be really apologetic because, as you said in your video, it looks like a toy. The shop sold high end HiFi equipment. I had been in there before to buy other things, but you got the feeling that the guys running the shop were capable of being very dismissing about anything that didn’t reach their standards. So I said something like “really sorry to bring this in, but I’d like stylus so I can try it out”. Their reaction was overwhelmingly positive. They told me that it was made by a company that was very well known for its turntables, and in fact it was very good in its own right. They even thanked me for brining it in as they had never seen one in the wild before. They sold me a stylus, and it did indeed work, but as I said in my other post, the pots are knackered. So I put it away. One day, I told myself, I’ll get it working properly again. I feel that I really should now.
So, thanks for posting the links for the drive belts - mine needs a new set as well. I may have to get it a new stylus too, just to be sure - no rubber support with mine, so the stylus has been resting on the turntable for a very long time.
or you could do what i did, and wait many years for them to release a refined product that works as good as the vintage burgers
nah jk mad respect for brightening that guy's day and servicing your burger
Great video as always. The misspellings are on my player, too.
9:57 there is an additional function for the rubber holder: it's used to hold the tone arm into place when replacing the stylus: you have to place the record player upside down on the table and let the tone arm rest on it, and you can replace the stylus.
Your videos are consistently fantastic. This one is no exception.
I love the videos done by this man, so informative and detailed. Fantastic
As always, great video from you. Every video you upload is as good as the last one. 👍🏻👍🏻
Josh Bacon u are so right... And his English accent makes it so premium to look =) I love techmoan too!!!!
Josh Bacon eggs
Your reviews are extremely helpful thank you for the effort and time you put into your videos.
I had a red Sound Burger in 1983 for a birthday and always loved it. Thanks for sharing this.
Audio-Technica have re-released the Sound Burger for their 60th anniversary, updated with Bluetooth and USB-C! You should get one and do an old-vs-new comparison video!
7:56 i have solved that issue on my Mister Disc: by replacing Resistor R402 3.3 Kohm with a 3.9 Kohm.
I was thinking the exact same thing as well. :)
I wasn't sure at first if i had to install one with more or less resistance.. so i ordered 2 resistors, both where either one step higher in resistance, or lower. I first installed the lower one.. and ofcourse it played to fast, so i replaced it with the higher one, so now it's playing at the right speed.
I'd also recommend applying a minute squirt of PTFE spray (WD40 produce wet/dry versions) to the each of the spindles to ensure they're rotating freely!
Georg;
Electronic components like resistors & capacitors can change their values over long periods of time especially if they're low quality to start with & exposed to significant heat from high ambient temperatures & higher current than expected. The coloured bands on resistors not only signify the resistance value but also the last band indicates how closely it's been manufactured to meet that value (+/-%), so if a circuit uses cheaper components to start with then it might not ddo precisely what it's designed to do even from the factory!
Trim potentiometers aren't usually high precision, so if you need to set a value close to the upper end of the nominal value of the pot, with a bit of bad luck, the actual max value of the pot could be lower...
More careful overall circuit design could probably have dealt with it, or it might be an issue of the tolerances of multiple other components coming together in just such a way that for this unit the range of the pot just doesn't do it...
As always your videos are a pleasure to watch. You sir, set the standard for all TH-camrs to aspire to.
Thanks for your time and effort. I appreciate your videos and enjoy watching them.
I have had the red AT727 since 1993, when I bought it used, and it still sounds and works brilliantly! Yes, I sometimes take this with me not just to record-fairs, but record shoppes, also. It's nice to see this video for future referring on replacing the belts...many thanks for sharing!!
The turning being too fast might be down to the fact that the batteries are new and better than the average stuff that was available back then. I'm sure the speed will normalize as the batteries get drained a bit.
Unlikely, but anything is possible. It is just more 50 year old electronics made out-of-bounds due to the length of time passed.
munxcorp
No. Likely due to discrete electronic components like electrolytic capacitors that are out of spec because the gel has dried out .
Still, munxcorp is right. As the batteries drain the voltage drops and the record *will* turn more slowly than with fresh batteries.
This is what I thought - that and compensation for the stabiliser
I have a Victrola record player from 1913 and it has an adjustable speed regulator on it. It's very unlikely that this player had no regulation 70 years later, because high-impedance potentiometers were used to control speed and those wouldn't allow for much power to go through. This means they were almost certainly controlling some kind of voltage regulator.
By the way, you can see how the mechanical speed regulator works in this video by Technology Connections: th-cam.com/video/0vbyoZDQaIY/w-d-xo.htmlm34s
Man I love these videos. So indepth and comparing them makes for some great perspective.
This has and always will be one of my favorite channels
Somehow the cheap-aesthetic of the original speaks to me, it gives it a character :) Lovely turntable! Also, I'm really missing the puppets, but I'll wait patiently!
It looks like pretty good plastic, for the 1980s. VCRs had some ugly plastic, but (just) strong enough. Laptops inspired a lot of polymer research.
it's a nice look, reminiscent of the nokia lumias
or the lumias are reminiscent of the sound burger, rather
My bad, I'm not too familiar with 80's plastics :) but that's interesting! I guess, as Techmoan said, it just comes off cheap in its colour.
I don't know how you managed it, but that _is_ a knock-off Crosley! (Who thought _that_ was a brilliant idea?)
I have one of the first generation Crosley Revolutions (the CR6002A,) and while not perfect... and not something I'd play NM records on, it's a fun little thing to take to parties with a box of beater records, or to record fairs for a quick listen.
Yeah, I had to check as I have one too and didn't think that looked right (aside from the misspellings.) Mine has a clear bit above the label area and is a shiny red, not that matte olive this looks like. For what it's worth, it also has an FM transmitter with two frequencies to select from, but that never worked so well as FCC rules require it to be so low output as to be worthless. Incidentally, mine was dead for a while and when I plugged it in today, has decided to work again for some reason. Wouldn't recommend seeking this one out, but I used a bunch of in-store credit to get mine, so it is what it is.
Why the hell would anyone knock off something that's basically a Victrola knockoff to begin with? I have a third party record player from Target because it has a cassette deck, and it's even made better than most Crosleys I've seen. At least I know it's third party.
An FM transmitter? Now I can play records...in my car! -_-
I mean if you're gonna make a knockoff why do it of a Crosley?
Well, at least it means that people will believe the low-quality standard XD
It's like how at the store I work at, everyone steals the cheapest beer🤔
Love the video. I have 3 sound burgers but they are all needing work done on them now and that is why I visited this page, most helpful.
Thank you for all you do! Love this stuff.
"one day i played black sabbath on 78 speed man"
"and then what did you see?"
"I saw God"
Good video mate. Back in the day I worked for a hi-fi shop in Scotland & we got about 20 of these in from the AT rep. I was there for about 18 months and I'm pretty sure we didn't move any at all. It did sound pretty good though with half-decent headphones.
Gordon Bain and now they fetch big buxx.
You’re ending credits is so satisfying to watch!
Hey Mat, bought a Sound Burger out of Portugal, replaced the belts and stylus and I couldn’t be any happier with the results. I love you and the channel. Keep up the good work! On the cusp of pulling the trigger on an PS-F5(9)!!!
The Soundburger (not Crosley) is pretty good, but then it's made by Audio Technica, so they have a reputation to uphold.
So does Crosley, apparently. They certainly live up to it, too!
That goes without saying. They should be ashamed of themselves.
I've heard of Audio Technica, but not the other company.
Crosley: Dedicated to killing the vinyl revival, one piece of junk at a time.
They should be called 'Crushley',instead, 'cuz they'll crush the grooves of our records like there's no tomorrow :D
Hell, this third party thing I got at Target because it had a cassette deck and I have more cassettes to count is better than Crosley junk.
You’re kidding right? Crosley products are almost wholely responsible for the ‘vinyl revival’. They make cheap turntables that are aesthetically pleasing, and like a girl meets a boy, the first thing that matters is if she likes how he looks. People start with cruisers, get a taste for it then dump that for something better once they realize they can do better. Audiophiles might shit on Crosley but without them the communities wouldn’t be what they are now
@@dustinwheat4096 I agree that Crosley contributed by making entry level products. I personally never owned one, and started my Vinyl collection 15 years ago. People used to call me weird for buying vinyl back then. and look how times have changed.
Playing a record with a real burger still sounds better than a Crosley.
I didn’t know Hugh Masekela and I’m starting to love this record from hearing bits on your videos.
Great presentation, editing and information as usual.
"to prevent people from suing them after trying to eat it."
As an American... yeah, you right.
Yuh you grammar not
It’s crazy to me how long Audio Technica has existed for. I really thought they only did microphones and started up with in the past 15 years or so.
Great little video on the history of these portable players
Thank you for introducing me to that Hugh Masekela album. Never heard any of his tunes before but I like the sound.
I don't think it's a knockoff, it's just crap.
No truer words ever spoken.
It's not beta, Crosley is just the worst audio manufacturer on the market, full stop.
You'd think Audio Technica would bring the Sound Burger back. It seems like it wouldn't cost that much to manufacture looking at the innards, and would be a very profitable exercise even if sold at half the going rate for the originals!
I don't understand why anyone would make a fake of a Crosley. My sister's Crosley cruiser has the same weird tonearm, like the arm is at a weird angle, so I wouldn't be surprised. Plus all the cheap turntables have the same mechanism meaning they come from the same factory, so I can't see why it would be bad unless this was a bad batch or a one-off.
To be fair it looked crap in every way, including the colour. I agree that's it's a crap product probably by a crap company. Never heard of them before.
Will the muppetts ever make a return to the end of your videos? I miss them.
You make excellent videos. Please keep it up. :D
Next week.
Woo! I look forward to it, Mr. Mat with 1 T. :D
Thanx.
HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE
Techmoan I will have to watch that now! Love the Muppet-styled puppets!
AYY PHILLY IN THE BUILDING!!
Here at exactly 1 mil subs, Congrats!
Lovely video Mat plus the fact that you have cleared up a mystery for me. Back in 1978 in Abu Dhabi, my father had a Technics turntable with a little window that displayed these strange red dots that appeared to move. Well, now I know, they perform the same function as your white disc with the bars. Cheers mate.
If I rebooted this design, I’d call it the Soundwich 😉
Funny someone thought of the headphone cable holder, but not a threaded hole to store the tonearm lock screw! But added in the instructions to keep it in a safe place from getting lost.
After watching your excellent video I replaced the belts on my original Sound Burger which I've had since the 90's mainly unused and decided to sell it and got £290 for it on that well known auction site....... many thanks.........
Great quality video, clear and informative, thanks.
Crosley, destroying one potentially good idea after another.
Oh no, it's the Crosley Defence Army.
Goodness.
It's just an opinion, friend.
No need to be so hostile.
The Dollar Guy - I think it was sarcasm. Honestly, I’ve never seen anything with “Crosley” on it that was of even reasonable quality.
Crosley...sumthin, sumthin balls.
The Dollar Guy I wouldn't even buy it for a dollar!
Crosley products are all shit for stupid hipsters
This was a very interesting and informative video about this turn table and now I’m interested.
Dear Mr Techmoan... I love all your videos with all depth, rant and funny skits. I often click your links to other people in various vides. In this case the Vwestlife channel... While his video was great in content... bloody hell the poor sound. You stand out, way out, in all aspects content, proper lighting and sound. All my thumbs up and thanks for everything.
615K SUBSCRIBERS CONGRATZ MATT !!! This has really taken off. CHEERS M8
Sound Burger & The Clones is my new band name, thanks!
It's lunch time, I saw "Burger" and immediately clicked.
We had Donato's
A burger has a taste this thing will be dropped in the street with the empty Berger boxes in the gutter
I just thought they only gave this nice looking piece of tech this idiotic name just to make people hungry and go to McKing or Burger Donalds and then I read the comments....
Marky Shaw, and what?
had mac n cheese.
my grandfather would have loved your channel!
Thanks for introducing me to Hugh Masekela!!!
He may have his playlist set for hours, but I can guaranty his butt will not last that long sitting on a cement step in what looks like a high traffic area.
10:57 song is Hugh Masekela - Bird On The Wing (skip to 1:19 of the song)
I have zero interest in record players or pasta makers or half of the stuff you review but I will always watch a new video by you. It's just well presented entertainment and information I otherwise wouldn't have had. I just love you channel.
My Sound Burger somehow has a tab of the transparent plastic top shell sticking out and I have no idea how to put it back (without snapping something). It also needs a polish of the lid somehow to get rid of some surface scratches. Seeing this great video has reminded me I have to go restore mine somehow. It's a lovely thing
10:57 Bird On The Wing by Hugh Masekela
"take a look at a Crosley"
NO PLEASE MY EYES MY EEEYYYEEEESSSSSS
You're making Phillip very Crosley...
Chris Nixon Oh shit that was so good xDDD
just shhhh no one cares!
The fact that it's puke green doesn't really help the situation any :D
love hearing "over time" at the end of these videos
And now ATH just announced a re-release of this yesterday! Quite excited for the new one.
That crosley has more background noise than my old idler drive BSR turntable!
Now I'm gonna wait for the review for the announced 2022 re-release of the Sound Burger (now with Bluetooth, still no lettuce tho)
Techmoan's video was literally the first thing that popped in my head when I saw the announcement. Nice to see A-T bringing the Sound Burger back to the market. Let's hope it stays around on the market for a while.
Utterly fascinating video. Funny that I don't have the slightest recollection of the "Sound Burger." Three and a half decades later I learn about something that I had no idea existed back in the day.
The Sound Burger looks like a nice piece of kit, i like the colour on your example too.
That incredible music at 10:57 is Hugh Maselkela - Tomorrow.
Funky little machine, I quite like it, personally I don't have much space to get a big hifi or something in my room. This little thing would be perfect for me, because its small enough to easily store away until needed.
Shame about the modern remake being shit, although you suspect it may be a copy I doubt it is, I just don't believe modern remakes of anything can hold a candle to their old machine.
Thank you!
That Hugh Masakela album...wew lad.
I love your theory about the manufacturing process behind the Crosley.
Thanks for the Retromash link, that place is a goldmine for an 80's kid :D
Why would anyone fake a Crosley? That would be like having a chop shop but only stealing Yugos.
they should have made the sound crocodile
wow that was really cool. id love to have one. i really like the older tech. i still have a few turntables that cover various stages of design but never quite seen anything like that. great video.
I had the original Mister disc in Purpke in mint shape that I won on eBay around 2010 for under $100. I was the only bidder and back in 2010, not many even knew about this machine and the vinyl craze had not happened yet. Sadly it got stolen about 6 years ago from my storage and I loved that thing, even just looking at it and not using for it. I’m very visual and love the 70’s and 80’s and for me ot was like looking at art and made me feel how I felt in the 70’s and 80’s,
So I was so happy to find out these are back bc I don’t have the budget to get another original bc they’ve gone up 4 to 5 times what I paid 13 years ago. I actually was pricing some audio technica cartridges when this burger unit came in the feed with the cartridges. So I’m def getting one and I love all the vintage Japanese gadgets from the 70’s and 80’s. I need to find a book with all of the vintage Japanese gadgets, so I can just look at them and be more educated on what was out back then.
The sound burger sounds delicious.
fur burger sounds better
Will the puppets ever return? 😔
My first record player was this giant cabinet one that had a storage area and speakers, was like the size of a dresser almost. Loved the thing.
Great topic and well done! I have the earlier Crosley version with the mag cartridge and FM modulator.
It still tracks at 3.46g and had some bad wow at 45rpm.
The title of this video would have been a great name for a new-wave band in the early 80's.
“POWER CONSUMPTIOM”
Thank you very much for this review, now I'm looking for "Masekela" records :)
Um.....the yellow is the best color by far! Thanks for continuing to try the crazy stuff!!
I don’t know why they renamed this in the us, “sound burger” really would have appealed to the populace
17:56-18:04 the sound of vinyl being sanded down
Really cool! When I was a young stud cruising the mean streets of our little village, my cousin was looking for a way to play the music we wanted to hear as we drove around. Well he did find a battery operated record player, and we put that in the front seat between us in his 1955 Mercury, and we cruised. Only problem, the streets were rough and that Merc was a smooth ride, but not smooth enough for a record player. We gave up after two nights of ah shits. Ten years later I bought my first in car cassette player, I ordered it from the PACEX catalog while I was in Vietnam, and it was waiting for me when I got home but that's a whole different story.
also how nice to have all three of them in yellow. great video, thank you.
Turntables that have an automatic changer necessarily have spindles that don't rotate. You have probably avoided them because you dislike the idea of dropping records on one another.
I'm quite sure he knows.
I’ve got one - but I’d forgotten about it. th-cam.com/video/oXSyyWLTtkc/w-d-xo.htmlm30s
Not even a big audio guy, but well, now I know not to ever buy anything from crosley
awesome videos.
cheers from Toronto Canada.
i find that i need to buy everything you demonstrate .( no thanks for that).
keep up the amazing work.
The Sound Burger looks to be a neat device. Thanks for the video :-)