Wow, excellent video! It blew my mind and I had no idea you could run games on this phone! However, it was surprising that you can’t use regular headphones and instead need to buy proprietary ones. Also, just to clarify, I didn’t lose the small screw at 13:54, it was already like that! 🤣🤣
@@niamhturner1451 exactly. for windows :/ the gpd win is as close as you get but they are obligated to never put a phone card in it just to break our hearts. lol
It is hardly believable that Nokia ended up in oblivion after a period of glory and innovations. It is truly sad to conclude this way after bringing us so much happiness and joy.
@@kiyoponnnthey made the right decision... they implement it badly . Pc windows was incompatible with the mobile one and that was the crux ... a decent x86/x64 phone would have been a blast . I can't but imagine what could have been .
Microsoft is to blame, Stephen Elop was a Microsoft trojan horse in my opinion (ps. MS is still at it to this day which proves my theory). Add to that, Nokia was delusional, I remember staff claiming how inferior the iPhone was compared to current/upcoming Nokia phones (functionality wise), I was confused by it at the time, because I noticed how popular it was getting day by day. Yes, I worked in Nokia MEA, even shook hands with the man himself, Stephen Elop. I was hoping he'd save us...
@@contytubMicrosoft is to blame for the crap of windows mobile honestly. Also, x86 in phones was and is never gonna be a thing, it's extremely hard to make it efficient enough for handheld devices. Intel tried it with their Atom line and failed miserably.
@@notatallbruh2011 Videos can be uploaded and released seperately. So the video was available early for channel members or patreon supporters who were given the video link.
I'll just explain the context: white LEDs were a very extravagant thing at the time, because we spent several decades with only red LEDs (and later green), but it was very laborious and complicated to develop the blue LED. The blue LED was only conceived in 1992, which in terms of technology is very recent. It was VERY important, because it was the missing color to produce any other color (RGB = white, yellow, pink, or any other color that comes to mind). For this reason, a few years later, everything was using blue LEDs, as if blue LEDs had become fashionable (the good old monochrome LCD with a blue backlight, which you would find in your CD player, on your car dashboard, on your computer and even in your microwave), as well as white LEDs (which until that moment were not strong enough to be used as lighting for a very large display, much less for a lamp) but having a small display, lit by LED instead of a lamp, would mean that you would have a much higher battery performance.
Wow!!! Thank you for the explanation, i grew up in the late 2000's so i think i also experienced those times and LED's, damn it really seemed to be exciting to switch to LEDs on electronics, keep it up!!!
Janus, you continue to be my absolute favourite creator on this platform. Your love for these old tech products, the care you take with them and how you always look deeper than the surface to appreciate their innovation is inspiring. Many creators would get one of these and spend 10 minutes laughing at it's inadequacies. However you take us on this beautiful journey with each video where you bring attention to things like the quality of their displays, the power under their hoods and the spirit of innovation in their designs. I loved seeing the wide-screen doom port running and the 3D demo at 16:18 was simply astonishing to see. The amount of power these devices had, just wow. Seeing that demo on that widescreen made me dream of an alternate future where Nokia's N-Gage had a widescreen design like these communicators and the power they had under the hood, rather than what the N-Gage was. Imagine a PSP competitor from Nokia with a widescreen display like this, how incredible that would have been. It might not have had the 3D power that the PSP had but it could have had the robust communication features of a Nokia product. When I'm back in Australia, i'd love to send my first-gen N-Gage to you to hear your thoughts. Anyway, thank you for your work on these videos and your the care with which you take with these old beasts. You are an inspiration to viewers and other creators alike. When I finish every Janus Cycle video, I find myself on eBay looking for some equally obsolete but fascinating product to make a video about. You make us feel something real with every video and I thank you for that. Keep up the good work, I excitedly await your next video. Sincerely, Tim.
Thanks Tim. Your channel helped me realise that I can just be myself. And make the videos that really matter. That being genuine can take longer to be noticed, but gives us what we really want in life. Connection, understanding and a sense of belonging to something bigger :)
14:41 Those tubes actually operate on high voltages, rubber isolation that you removed is both dampening shock movements and isolating against high voltage sparks, so this was quite risky movement. Anyways, beautiful explanation, good video :)
Somewhere around August of 2005, I was on a business trip to Finland for a company called Metso. While the group was out to dinner one evening, a man approached the table and was friends with our hosts. He was a Nokia executive and he proceeded to regale us with his amazing phone that looked a whole lot like this. We were all super interested in that thing. The reindeer stew was excellent too.
My new boss had this phone when I went working for that company and every time I saw him use it, it felt like I'm being transported into some kind of sci-fi movie scene... It was amazing to see a "pocket computer phone"-hybrid like that for the first time. He even let me see and use it for a couple minutes, it had everything a business person needed, email, built-in answering machine with alerting of a missed call in the menu, fax capabilities,... I remember him printing some serious papers in the back of the car, via bluetooth on a mobile printer - that was like nothing I've ever seen before :D Great video and thanks for the memory-unlock!
After watching I was wondering why there wasn't more likes, only 247? I then saw that it was only uploaded 56 minutes ago! Your videos have such a consistent and timeless quality to them that speaks volumes about your earlier work that I was expecting this video to be a year old with 5K likes. Keep up the excellent content!
This is the exact communicator model that i was dreaming to own when i was in the middle school. This is the coolest phone at the times.. i remember owning nokia E90 communicator back in 2007 and be the coolest guy among my friends.. idk why nokia phone is cool and fun back in the day not like smart phone we have today, boring old slab phone every years.. this is why i love my galaxy fold 5..
That phone definitely seemed waaaay futuristic for 2000! I would have fell in love with that phone with all them games and that little color screen! What! You wouldn’t have been able to tell my little 12 year old self nothing once I whipped out that phone
I remember seeing all the Nokia phone in the early 2000s I wanted one so bad. Got my first Nokia in 2008 with the Nokia 6275I for cricket wireless. I absolutely loved that phone, had Bluetooth, RI blaster, app support, fm radio, a camera and video recorder, voice memo, and tons of goodies I can download and run on the phone. The only thing that was missing was 3G support cause 2G was soooo slow when downloading a song or app or anything bigger than a megabyte, it even had always on display and the screen was perfectly visible in direct sunlight absolutely perfect. But if I’m honest my favorite phone screen of the early 2000s was the Motorola 870 from Nextel, its bright and colorful
You should look at the 3585i. I believe it was an Altel exclusive but had expanded snake and it was honestly the best of the older Nokia phones that I can recall.
Thats my kind of humor right there at 6:27 i instantly remembered the scene in nellys music video dilemma where Kelly Rowland texts exactly this sentence right there where she mimicks to send a text message with excel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂👍🏼
Ahhhh, nice! I was just talking about this phone at our (Nokia) "end of year" party last week ... according to my on-call requirement list (that hasn't been updated for over a decade) the company is supposed to supply one of these to me still ... "back in the day" we could use it to dial-in to the mobile operator's network via circuit-switched data when there was an issue rather than using our laptop.
@@stemipro ngage ties into series 60. Its why we had a free doom port on day 1. It was also the cheapest smartphone with true multitasking and gprs - these two things made it so that it was a really cheap way to have modern instant messaging instead of sms or going online to check every now and then as you had to do with email on the 9210 as the im software could stay running and connected cheaply 24/7. Cheapness of the nokia smartphones is what separated them from treo's and such that were succesful only in markets where the cost was hidden within high cost service plans.
Thank you! There will be at least one more Communicator video in the future. I have a number of other devices to explore first. Possibly even a Gameboy :)
Amazing camerawork, amazing soundwork, amazing device, amazing you! ;) Thanks for sharing! Oh also, I think I prefer the darker one. But silver was sure a popular thing in 00s.
It is high time that we as a customers should join together and bring back Nokia the same way how it was before 2007. Nokia definitely needs a strong comeback like Apple in 1997
I was just thinking a ported Doom engine should make full use of the screen width, then you showed the second one with a lovely wide field of view. Looks great!
15:15 - that was a thing about pre 2007 mobile OS software - it was complex and detailed. I remember at Win mobile devices with stylus there were plenty examples of professional software which allowed to perform the very same tasks as the desktop versions. After 2007 mobile software really degraded to a primitive state with giant buttons which turned mobile devices to a pure content consuming role.
yeah loved that previous video.. i had several nokia communicators in the days really nice devices LOVE NOKIA FOREVER (AND LOVE YOUR CHANNEL JANUS! THANK FOR SHARING AS ALways!)
But the MS time would have given the opportunity to run full fledged DOS and Windows software. Many nerds would have fallen for that, further propelling special software for these phones. But they didn't, it was a closed eco system with a too small softwware base. This 9020i was actuallly more capeable in doing business software and full fledged strategy games than all the Nokia phones under MS reign. What a Joke! They tried that again with the Windows CE platform, which failed miserable as well. If I want to get locked into a closed software ecosystem I would prefer the original: Apple. But I won't ;-)
The Symbian OS, in all it's variants, accounted for 90% of the mobile phone market at it's height, and the largest software library of any mobile system. MS wouldn't have put DOS on Nokia phones... they bought Nokia in 2013, DOS was a long dead OS, and you could already use emulation to run old DOS programs. Nokia started selling Windows phones in 2011 . Windows CE didn't fail, it was extremely successful. It ran on a huge number of handheld and mobile devices. Released in 1996, it was the basis for the 'Pocket PC and 'Windows Mobile' OSs right through to Windows Phone 7. It was discontinued in 2013, but official support for it didn't end until October 2023.
That isn't true. Nokia were already having major problems in the years preceding the acquisition by MS in 2013. Nokia dropped Symbian and turned to Windows Phone in 2011, after gradually losing market share. People weren't happy with the phones Nokia were producing. Symbian devices had 70% market share in 2006, but it gradually went down after that. Sony, Motorola, Samsung and LG weren't happy either, so they deciced to drop Symbian in 2009 and 2010, going with Android and Windows Phone instead. Nokia followed suit a year later, but it was too little, too late.
Had about 5 communicator Nokias, and what I used mostly of them, was telnet and the serial port. And there were headphones to connect to the nokia data port or bluetooth in a later model, I don't quite remember. Those were fantastic machines, you made me see if my 9110 still powers, and not only powers, but also charges, on a 26 year old battery, it lasts 10 minutes while iddling though :)
And thank YOU for making great videos on these retro devices, your channel is actually one of the reason I was inspired to buy an old MobilePro palmtop PC, and I am happy that I did.
Yesterday I found a "Nokia 9130 Communicator" in a drawer in my father's room. The computer side of the phone has a 640×400 resolution backlit LCD with 16 gray shades, as such the phone is really big, as big as a modern smartphone. The phone side is unchanged from the 9110. This did not happen yesterday, or any day, or in the real world. It all played out in my mind, at around 3-4am. As such, I did not have enough time to see all the features before I had to wake up. Looks like my retro obsession is really getting to me.
The only reason in using fold 4 now, because my father has been using this nokia before.. i love how his phone folded that time.. now i able to use one.. thanks to him for being able to show me what the fold phone looks like.. ❤
Made the best phones of a decade. I do understand that things have come a long way, but I really did love the Nokia phones and to be fair I was watching videos and listening to music on them even when they weren't really designed for that long before the smartphone ever came out. You should cover the xta exac as well. That was a good device.
Loved the video, and the ones about the Sony Ericssons, your visuals work really well, especially when you had those two k750 and k800 side by side on macro, and here with the cyberpunk inspired edit at the end with the music. Dope! I always wonder what we could have gotten out of such devices if we had been forced to stop right there for a decade. It's ridiculous how much computational power you can get nowadays for the price of a pack of cigarettes, or even for free, I find that a bit cyberpunk.
I was a die hard Symbian user up until around 2015 when TH-cam was no longer supported that was the nail in the coffin for me as I watched TH-cam daily on my Symbian line of phones including Communicator series and E60 and E61
Notice the way, unlike Samsung and Apple, Nokia phones are easy to take apart without breaking something. With modern all glass, glued together devices you're basically going to break the screen or backplate on the first device you take apart. So in practice you need to pay someone else to do it unless you've got a stock of spare parts. And Apple go out of their way to stop you replacing anything because all the parts are paired to the baseband chip and you need Apple software to pair the new part. So in practice you need to pay them to fix it.
You can get the AD-15 audio adapter, that way you can get a miniplug output for the sound. You thought Apple was breaking new ground having a dongle for the headphone out... :D I have the Nokia 9300i Communicator and it still works. I had the launch model of N900, it had some hardware issues so when I took it to service I bought the 9300i used from the repair shop to last me the duration of the repairs. I think it was the Nokia Flagship Store in downtown Helsinki.
It really is pretty amazing that those tubes were so small and un noticeable towards the end of their life. I've used both the IIIc and Visor Prism which had those tubes as a backlight but I never knew because they did and still do look so good. I also had a portable LCD TV and I could tell that thing had a tube, Lol Although I was familiar enough with Nokias, my grandma had one, I didn't own one until the Windows Phone era is 2014 (and even that thing was built like a tank). That said, I do remember see the Internet tablets from Nokia on display at Fry's Electronics and really wanting one, I also wanted the Sony Mylo which was another weirdo internet device. I am impressed with how nice that screen looks, color that nice and that size continued to be rare for years to come. I love that this series of phone has dedicated archive sites. Holdovers from a previous internet age~
Nokia was ahead of its time and would have stayed ahead of its time if they hadn't underestimated the future popularity of touchscreens. That's why it annoys me that people claim that smartphones and touch screens didn't exist before 2017.
Watching this video on my Nokia XR20, I would say they are still making great phones today, certainly the most rugged general purpose devices. It's always amazing seeing what these older devices could do though, even if at the time not many people could get them.
If you like this you'd love the Psion Series 5, which came out years earlier and used the same(ish) OS as Symbian was developed by Psion and early versions used in their PDAs.
Now you should have the challenge of watching the entire Shrek movie on it. There is nothing more 2000s than that. I have a 40mb mp4 Shrek file, in case you need it
Frind of mine had an earlier version (no colour screen) science fiction in your hands! This colour version is very cool but phones were getting smaller and The Nokia is quite a unit.
I had 9210i borrowed from a friend back in school days, I was so amazed by it and this was back in 2007 I believe, at the time I didn't know that Nokia came out with this powerful communicator back in 2002, I always thought it was from 2007, it was so ahead of its time, 9300 and 9500 are the only later S80 models, with E90 Nokia shifted to S60, I would suggest for you to also give a try to 7710 S90 phone or Nokia N800 or N900 with linux platform
The Symbian OS used in the 9210 was directly derived from the EPOC operating system, designed and used by Psion in their amazing Series 5, Series 7, Netbook and Revo devices. The 'business' applications were also based on the apps integrated onto the Psion devices, as was the excellent built in programming language, OPL, which could directly use and manipulate data files from those apps. Psion were masters of integration. They had previously written a lot of software for 8 bit computers, and also the supplied business applications for the Sinclair QL before creating their "Organiser" ranges.
Ah yes, the only spreadsheet app that can send text messages… sadly I never got it to work, not on my 9210 or 9500. Just for fun, at the end of Nokia’s reign, list how many operating systems they had going…
With platforms like this you can really tell which developers had an interest in quality and which just really churned something out. That pinball game worked disappointingly poorly compared to stuff that was doing full on scrolling and everything.
Wow, excellent video! It blew my mind and I had no idea you could run games on this phone! However, it was surprising that you can’t use regular headphones and instead need to buy proprietary ones. Also, just to clarify, I didn’t lose the small screw at 13:54, it was already like that! 🤣🤣
Thank you! I would not have been able to make this video without your generosity :)
This is totally what I wanted phones to be when I was a teenager in highschool 20 years ago.
Shows my age, if you ever had a 3310 in high school back in the late 90's was considered top class!
Me too
lets be real
it's what I want phones to be like today
@@niamhturner1451 exactly. for windows :/ the gpd win is as close as you get but they are obligated to never put a phone card in it just to break our hearts. lol
Yep. I’m 42. This was cutting edge, how far we’ve come. I’ve an iPhone 15pro max lol.
Whoever sent it to you really took care of it. Looks stunning to this day. Literally.
6:21 I knew you'd make a Nelly reference lmao
Came here to say the same. Lol🤣
Nelly did message back, but he's on sheet 2
It’s the first thing I think of every time I see one of these phones 😂
kelly gets mad at neyo for not replying after texting via excel XD
@rmn7pe she thought it was google sheets...
It is hardly believable that Nokia ended up in oblivion after a period of glory and innovations. It is truly sad to conclude this way after bringing us so much happiness and joy.
it's because they made the wrong gamble by choosing windows mobile over android
Because of Stephen Elop, a Canadian idiot man.
@@kiyoponnnthey made the right decision... they implement it badly . Pc windows was incompatible with the mobile one and that was the crux ... a decent x86/x64 phone would have been a blast . I can't but imagine what could have been .
Microsoft is to blame, Stephen Elop was a Microsoft trojan horse in my opinion (ps. MS is still at it to this day which proves my theory).
Add to that, Nokia was delusional, I remember staff claiming how inferior the iPhone was compared to current/upcoming Nokia phones (functionality wise), I was confused by it at the time, because I noticed how popular it was getting day by day.
Yes, I worked in Nokia MEA, even shook hands with the man himself, Stephen Elop.
I was hoping he'd save us...
@@contytubMicrosoft is to blame for the crap of windows mobile honestly. Also, x86 in phones was and is never gonna be a thing, it's extremely hard to make it efficient enough for handheld devices. Intel tried it with their Atom line and failed miserably.
6:27 you did NOT just reference Kelly Rowland texting Nelly via Excel in Dilemma?!
IMAGINE being mad over not getting a message back in excel!
@@Roninkinx can't Microsoft do anything right? :D
He so did 😂
This 9210 looks very nice for its age, that's probably a testament to the Nokia's build quality of the day
Still got mine. But I think the screen cable is on the way out. When I last used it about 20 years ago it would randomly show gibberish on the screen.
I low-key wish there was a modern version of this, it would fit the nodern market well.
Really miss the samsung slide qwerty keyboards, they are only 10 years younger but still out of date.
Planet Computers Cosmo was pretty close.
There are
@@adameichler You can also multiboot an Linux OS of your choice on their phones.
@@Poorgeniu5 for a similar reason, I'm considering a pine phone, they have a keyboard too.
that screen is mighty impressive
YOURE HERE BEFORE THE VIDEO???????
640x200 resolution. 12-bit colour.
@@notatallbruh2011 Videos can be uploaded and released seperately. So the video was available early for channel members or patreon supporters who were given the video link.
@@mysticmarble94 I'm neither, the link to the vid was just posted on Janus' server a little earlier
Oh my god the Thinkpad furry is here
I would die for a modern phone like this. It's honestly what a pine phone should have been!!!
Buy cosmic communicator
I'll just explain the context: white LEDs were a very extravagant thing at the time, because we spent several decades with only red LEDs (and later green), but it was very laborious and complicated to develop the blue LED. The blue LED was only conceived in 1992, which in terms of technology is very recent. It was VERY important, because it was the missing color to produce any other color (RGB = white, yellow, pink, or any other color that comes to mind). For this reason, a few years later, everything was using blue LEDs, as if blue LEDs had become fashionable (the good old monochrome LCD with a blue backlight, which you would find in your CD player, on your car dashboard, on your computer and even in your microwave), as well as white LEDs (which until that moment were not strong enough to be used as lighting for a very large display, much less for a lamp) but having a small display, lit by LED instead of a lamp, would mean that you would have a much higher battery performance.
Wow!!! Thank you for the explanation, i grew up in the late 2000's so i think i also experienced those times and LED's, damn it really seemed to be exciting to switch to LEDs on electronics, keep it up!!!
When blue LEDs came down to $5 each, I bought a few for my projects. Super awesome.
Janus, you continue to be my absolute favourite creator on this platform. Your love for these old tech products, the care you take with them and how you always look deeper than the surface to appreciate their innovation is inspiring. Many creators would get one of these and spend 10 minutes laughing at it's inadequacies. However you take us on this beautiful journey with each video where you bring attention to things like the quality of their displays, the power under their hoods and the spirit of innovation in their designs.
I loved seeing the wide-screen doom port running and the 3D demo at 16:18 was simply astonishing to see. The amount of power these devices had, just wow.
Seeing that demo on that widescreen made me dream of an alternate future where Nokia's N-Gage had a widescreen design like these communicators and the power they had under the hood, rather than what the N-Gage was. Imagine a PSP competitor from Nokia with a widescreen display like this, how incredible that would have been. It might not have had the 3D power that the PSP had but it could have had the robust communication features of a Nokia product.
When I'm back in Australia, i'd love to send my first-gen N-Gage to you to hear your thoughts.
Anyway, thank you for your work on these videos and your the care with which you take with these old beasts.
You are an inspiration to viewers and other creators alike. When I finish every Janus Cycle video, I find myself on eBay looking for some equally obsolete but fascinating product to make a video about. You make us feel something real with every video and I thank you for that.
Keep up the good work, I excitedly await your next video. Sincerely, Tim.
Thanks Tim. Your channel helped me realise that I can just be myself. And make the videos that really matter. That being genuine can take longer to be noticed, but gives us what we really want in life. Connection, understanding and a sense of belonging to something bigger :)
Love the music at the end…
with the b-roll it was such a mood!
He featured the title in the mp3 player. It's "Loveshadow - NO BPM (ft. Duckett)"
14:41 Those tubes actually operate on high voltages, rubber isolation that you removed is both dampening shock movements and isolating against high voltage sparks, so this was quite risky movement. Anyways, beautiful explanation, good video :)
I just had to power it up though.
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@@JanusCycle and you are absolutely forgiven and i understand you, just be careful, you can fry something up like that :D
it's great to feel that old-school-wow-factor from nokia again, thanks
Somewhere around August of 2005, I was on a business trip to Finland for a company called Metso. While the group was out to dinner one evening, a man approached the table and was friends with our hosts. He was a Nokia executive and he proceeded to regale us with his amazing phone that looked a whole lot like this. We were all super interested in that thing. The reindeer stew was excellent too.
Probably a 9500 or its smaller brother 9300(i)
Man ate Rudolph
It's crazy that this phone is from 2001
Nokia was ahead of its time.
This is one of your absolute best, the end sequence of demo and close up camera shots was outstanding 👍
First thing that came to mind: "...which was the style at the time". Nokia indeed was the headliner in early 2000s.
Damn it, don't you hate it when your phone turns out to be a computer?
I get fooled every time
lol
My new boss had this phone when I went working for that company and every time I saw him use it, it felt like I'm being transported into some kind of sci-fi movie scene... It was amazing to see a "pocket computer phone"-hybrid like that for the first time. He even let me see and use it for a couple minutes, it had everything a business person needed, email, built-in answering machine with alerting of a missed call in the menu, fax capabilities,... I remember him printing some serious papers in the back of the car, via bluetooth on a mobile printer - that was like nothing I've ever seen before :D Great video and thanks for the memory-unlock!
I had a nokia 9300i and that was the best time of my life. I will never be as happy as when I owned that phone
After watching I was wondering why there wasn't more likes, only 247? I then saw that it was only uploaded 56 minutes ago! Your videos have such a consistent and timeless quality to them that speaks volumes about your earlier work that I was expecting this video to be a year old with 5K likes. Keep up the excellent content!
What? Just watch the video. Likes are not an indicator of quality on this platform, and the only likes that should matter is yours.
This is the exact communicator model that i was dreaming to own when i was in the middle school. This is the coolest phone at the times.. i remember owning nokia E90 communicator back in 2007 and be the coolest guy among my friends.. idk why nokia phone is cool and fun back in the day not like smart phone we have today, boring old slab phone every years.. this is why i love my galaxy fold 5..
This was the exact comment that I wanted to make.
I had a 9110. Great phone, although connectivity limited to dialup was a limitation.
I miss innovative phones.
That phone definitely seemed waaaay futuristic for 2000! I would have fell in love with that phone with all them games and that little color screen! What! You wouldn’t have been able to tell my little 12 year old self nothing once I whipped out that phone
Your videos always give me early 2000's ABC doco/educational tv vibes and I love it.
Yeah, I noticed this too, it shows you how much influence the ABC educational programming had on 80's Aussie kids 👍
I'm so glad your channel is growing. I love these laid back, informed reviews.
Thank you! I'm really enjoying making these videos :)
I remember seeing all the Nokia phone in the early 2000s I wanted one so bad. Got my first Nokia in 2008 with the Nokia 6275I for cricket wireless. I absolutely loved that phone, had Bluetooth, RI blaster, app support, fm radio, a camera and video recorder, voice memo, and tons of goodies I can download and run on the phone. The only thing that was missing was 3G support cause 2G was soooo slow when downloading a song or app or anything bigger than a megabyte, it even had always on display and the screen was perfectly visible in direct sunlight absolutely perfect. But if I’m honest my favorite phone screen of the early 2000s was the Motorola 870 from Nextel, its bright and colorful
You should look at the 3585i. I believe it was an Altel exclusive but had expanded snake and it was honestly the best of the older Nokia phones that I can recall.
Thats my kind of humor right there at 6:27 i instantly remembered the scene in nellys music video dilemma where Kelly Rowland texts exactly this sentence right there where she mimicks to send a text message with excel 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂👍🏼
It was the yesteryear's Galaxy Fold!!
Ahhhh, nice! I was just talking about this phone at our (Nokia) "end of year" party last week ... according to my on-call requirement list (that hasn't been updated for over a decade) the company is supposed to supply one of these to me still ... "back in the day" we could use it to dial-in to the mobile operator's network via circuit-switched data when there was an issue rather than using our laptop.
Let's not forget Nokia N-Gage, the first one of it's kind. Great video!
@@stemipro ngage ties into series 60. Its why we had a free doom port on day 1.
It was also the cheapest smartphone with true multitasking and gprs - these two things made it so that it was a really cheap way to have modern instant messaging instead of sms or going online to check every now and then as you had to do with email on the 9210 as the im software could stay running and connected cheaply 24/7.
Cheapness of the nokia smartphones is what separated them from treo's and such that were succesful only in markets where the cost was hidden within high cost service plans.
Your series on these Communicator models has been brilliant. Definitely appreciate the care you always put in to telling the story of the devices.
Thank you! There will be at least one more Communicator video in the future. I have a number of other devices to explore first. Possibly even a Gameboy :)
10:33
The headphone plug-in is a unique Nokia proprietary one
I think mine reads Headset HDC-8
Amazing camerawork, amazing soundwork, amazing device, amazing you! ;) Thanks for sharing!
Oh also, I think I prefer the darker one. But silver was sure a popular thing in 00s.
Thank you for your compliments. The 2000s became very silver, I miss 90s black.
Another Janus video makes even this rainy day here in Jamaica not so bad.
Hi to you, and everyone watching in Jamaica :)
It is high time that we as a customers should join together and bring back Nokia the same way how it was before 2007. Nokia definitely needs a strong comeback like Apple in 1997
It can't, I'm afraid the damage is irreversible ..
I was just thinking a ported Doom engine should make full use of the screen width, then you showed the second one with a lovely wide field of view. Looks great!
15:15 - that was a thing about pre 2007 mobile OS software - it was complex and detailed. I remember at Win mobile devices with stylus there were plenty examples of professional software which allowed to perform the very same tasks as the desktop versions. After 2007 mobile software really degraded to a primitive state with giant buttons which turned mobile devices to a pure content consuming role.
My father had this phone when I was much younger. This device was a marvel for its time
yeah loved that previous video.. i had several nokia communicators in the days really nice devices LOVE NOKIA FOREVER (AND LOVE YOUR CHANNEL JANUS! THANK FOR SHARING AS ALways!)
I'm glad you enjoyed this video. The Nokia Communicators are really interesting. One day I'll try a later model.
Nokia phones were always better than apples right up until MS.bought them.
They just lost the marketing war.
But the MS time would have given the opportunity to run full fledged DOS and Windows software. Many nerds would have fallen for that, further propelling special software for these phones. But they didn't, it was a closed eco system with a too small softwware base. This 9020i was actuallly more capeable in doing business software and full fledged strategy games than all the Nokia phones under MS reign. What a Joke! They tried that again with the Windows CE platform, which failed miserable as well. If I want to get locked into a closed software ecosystem I would prefer the original: Apple. But I won't ;-)
The Symbian OS, in all it's variants, accounted for 90% of the mobile phone market at it's height, and the largest software library of any mobile system. MS wouldn't have put DOS on Nokia phones... they bought Nokia in 2013, DOS was a long dead OS, and you could already use emulation to run old DOS programs. Nokia started selling Windows phones in 2011 . Windows CE didn't fail, it was extremely successful. It ran on a huge number of handheld and mobile devices. Released in 1996, it was the basis for the 'Pocket PC and 'Windows Mobile' OSs right through to Windows Phone 7. It was discontinued in 2013, but official support for it didn't end until October 2023.
That isn't true. Nokia were already having major problems in the years preceding the acquisition by MS in 2013. Nokia dropped Symbian and turned to Windows Phone in 2011, after gradually losing market share. People weren't happy with the phones Nokia were producing. Symbian devices had 70% market share in 2006, but it gradually went down after that. Sony, Motorola, Samsung and LG weren't happy either, so they deciced to drop Symbian in 2009 and 2010, going with Android and Windows Phone instead. Nokia followed suit a year later, but it was too little, too late.
Looking purely at it's specs, it's no wonder it can push some 3D, it's got a processor quite close to the Nintendo DS, just a few years prior.
Had about 5 communicator Nokias, and what I used mostly of them, was telnet and the serial port. And there were headphones to connect to the nokia data port or bluetooth in a later model, I don't quite remember. Those were fantastic machines, you made me see if my 9110 still powers, and not only powers, but also charges, on a 26 year old battery, it lasts 10 minutes while iddling though :)
And thank YOU for making great videos on these retro devices, your channel is actually one of the reason I was inspired to buy an old MobilePro palmtop PC, and I am happy that I did.
NEC? very nice :)
Yesterday I found a "Nokia 9130 Communicator" in a drawer in my father's room. The computer side of the phone has a 640×400 resolution backlit LCD with 16 gray shades, as such the phone is really big, as big as a modern smartphone. The phone side is unchanged from the 9110.
This did not happen yesterday, or any day, or in the real world.
It all played out in my mind, at around 3-4am. As such, I did not have enough time to see all the features before I had to wake up.
Looks like my retro obsession is really getting to me.
The phone of PUSHPA BHAU 🔥
Thanks
Awesome, double thank you :)
That phone is indeed a computer! Must've been very useful for work back then...
Nokia was so creative back then hope it makes a comeback with something creative it would be really awesome
The only reason in using fold 4 now, because my father has been using this nokia before.. i love how his phone folded that time.. now i able to use one.. thanks to him for being able to show me what the fold phone looks like.. ❤
I think the back lighting looks really nice with the fluorescent light.
Made the best phones of a decade. I do understand that things have come a long way, but I really did love the Nokia phones and to be fair I was watching videos and listening to music on them even when they weren't really designed for that long before the smartphone ever came out. You should cover the xta exac as well. That was a good device.
YAY! Finally a part 2 of the Nokia 9210i!
9:36 that screen is beautiful. Beats my old MDA windows mobile phone I was rocking at a similar time!
Loved the video, and the ones about the Sony Ericssons, your visuals work really well, especially when you had those two k750 and k800 side by side on macro, and here with the cyberpunk inspired edit at the end with the music. Dope!
I always wonder what we could have gotten out of such devices if we had been forced to stop right there for a decade. It's ridiculous how much computational power you can get nowadays for the price of a pack of cigarettes, or even for free, I find that a bit cyberpunk.
Absolutely stunning video, these phones are quite incredible still. I'd like to see a stripped down cut version of a PS1 game running
I was a die hard Symbian user up until around 2015 when TH-cam was no longer supported that was the nail in the coffin for me as I watched TH-cam daily on my Symbian line of phones including Communicator series and E60 and E61
Call it nostalgia, but I really wish phones and palmtops like this came back. I love it.
I had this phone back in 2008 and facebook was legit when you have a keyboard and big screen. Although there weren't videos on fb then
Notice the way, unlike Samsung and Apple, Nokia phones are easy to take apart without breaking something. With modern all glass, glued together devices you're basically going to break the screen or backplate on the first device you take apart. So in practice you need to pay someone else to do it unless you've got a stock of spare parts. And Apple go out of their way to stop you replacing anything because all the parts are paired to the baseband chip and you need Apple software to pair the new part. So in practice you need to pay them to fix it.
If they were upgradeable, they would be like the IBM Thinkpad's of phones.
You can get the AD-15 audio adapter, that way you can get a miniplug output for the sound. You thought Apple was breaking new ground having a dongle for the headphone out... :D
I have the Nokia 9300i Communicator and it still works. I had the launch model of N900, it had some hardware issues so when I took it to service I bought the 9300i used from the repair shop to last me the duration of the repairs. I think it was the Nokia Flagship Store in downtown Helsinki.
It really is pretty amazing that those tubes were so small and un noticeable towards the end of their life. I've used both the IIIc and Visor Prism which had those tubes as a backlight but I never knew because they did and still do look so good. I also had a portable LCD TV and I could tell that thing had a tube, Lol
Although I was familiar enough with Nokias, my grandma had one, I didn't own one until the Windows Phone era is 2014 (and even that thing was built like a tank).
That said, I do remember see the Internet tablets from Nokia on display at Fry's Electronics and really wanting one, I also wanted the Sony Mylo which was another weirdo internet device.
I am impressed with how nice that screen looks, color that nice and that size continued to be rare for years to come.
I love that this series of phone has dedicated archive sites. Holdovers from a previous internet age~
This channel is definitely something different! The quality of your videos is superb.
Hey, thank you. that's some high praise :)
The best era of cell phones.
Magnifique Ö
Best 'Whatifihadthisasakid'-Tour (from '93)
of a Device I've seen in a while.
Superb Production, glad to Subscribe (y)
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed this :)
if only this were true. Imagine having a computer inside a phone. That would be crazy.
Nokia was ahead of its time and would have stayed ahead of its time if they hadn't underestimated the future popularity of touchscreens. That's why it annoys me that people claim that smartphones and touch screens didn't exist before 2017.
Potential project idea: I wonder if it would be possible to retrofit one of these 9210i's with a more modern chipset and OS? That would be fun to see!
He snuck in a Kelly Rowland reference 😂 amazing 👏🏻
Ok someone gave him 9300i and E90!
9500
9:40 wow dx ball, I recognize those sound effects anywhere
15:48 it has now been added, it didn't even take a 1 day before someone did it 😂
I still miss Symbian, wonder how it would look like today if Nokia stuck with it
Nokia is the best manufacturer of phones EVER!
Watching this video on my Nokia XR20, I would say they are still making great phones today, certainly the most rugged general purpose devices. It's always amazing seeing what these older devices could do though, even if at the time not many people could get them.
when i was growing up i wanted this so bad. so cool to see other people that also have a lust for stupid old expensive electronics
I was 5 when this came out. It was the most expensive phone on display, and I always wanted one.
This is really impressive for the time.
I really like the older, darker one.
If you like this you'd love the Psion Series 5, which came out years earlier and used the same(ish) OS as Symbian was developed by Psion and early versions used in their PDAs.
Now you should have the challenge of watching the entire Shrek movie on it.
There is nothing more 2000s than that. I have a 40mb mp4 Shrek file, in case you need it
Wow, the whole film compressed into just 40 mb?
@@PRH123 Yeah, just 42mb
@@AndreVictorGoncalves awesome, what was the resolution? You could have like ten movies on a CD :)
@@PRH123 It's 186x102
@@AndreVictorGoncalves really could have used something like that on business trips like fifteen years ago, awesome
I wanted it when I was in high school and now I am watching this from ZFold 6. 😊 feel blessed.
I'm unsure about what's better: Nokia's screen or Janus's video quality. You're setting a hard challenge to that device.
Very kind, thank you :)
I had the monochrome Nokia 9000 Communicator. This looks really nice!
Oh my old work phone 😢
Frind of mine had an earlier version (no colour screen) science fiction in your hands!
This colour version is very cool but phones were getting smaller and The Nokia is quite a unit.
love your outro janus
that kelly rowland reference should have been expected and yet caught me off guard!
My dad own this phone , it’s so nostalgic , i used to use the phone whenever my dad’s in home , Rip Dad 😊
I had 9210i borrowed from a friend back in school days, I was so amazed by it and this was back in 2007 I believe, at the time I didn't know that Nokia came out with this powerful communicator back in 2002, I always thought it was from 2007, it was so ahead of its time, 9300 and 9500 are the only later S80 models, with E90 Nokia shifted to S60, I would suggest for you to also give a try to 7710 S90 phone or Nokia N800 or N900 with linux platform
Thanks for your suggestions, some great devices there. I have done a video on the N900, really nice phone.
Wow,greatest phone😮‼️
The Symbian OS used in the 9210 was directly derived from the EPOC operating system, designed and used by Psion in their amazing Series 5, Series 7, Netbook and Revo devices. The 'business' applications were also based on the apps integrated onto the Psion devices, as was the excellent built in programming language, OPL, which could directly use and manipulate data files from those apps. Psion were masters of integration. They had previously written a lot of software for 8 bit computers, and also the supplied business applications for the Sinclair QL before creating their "Organiser" ranges.
I would like to explore a Psion one day.
Thanks for the viewer who gave that beautiful device.
Ah yes, the only spreadsheet app that can send text messages… sadly I never got it to work, not on my 9210 or 9500.
Just for fun, at the end of Nokia’s reign, list how many operating systems they had going…
The Nelly refrense had me dead. I knew what it was instantly.
With platforms like this you can really tell which developers had an interest in quality and which just really churned something out. That pinball game worked disappointingly poorly compared to stuff that was doing full on scrolling and everything.
It’s a TFT screen inside not LCD
TFT-LCD OK?