Said by someone who clearly doesn't play at 4K ultra on a OLED screen. I'll never go back to lower resolutions. The difference is Literally Night and Day.
Some people never learn... it's the gameplay not the graphics. The PS2 and Switch are two of the best selling consoles of all time because of the gameplay not graphics. They are successful because developers can churn out more games as well and take more risk as the development time is shorter. Just look at the PS5 - 80% of its library are just PS4 remasters because developing a 4K next-gen game costs so much and if the gameplay sucks, then it is over for them
@@lm_dccxl4078 As you can find things like 2080s and 1080tis for $200 or so I wouldn't buy a used 3060 for anything more than that. Its in a tough spot due to its price to performance in the used market
@@lm_dccxl4078 Less than $150. 1080/2080/3070 can be found for $200 or so and the 1080 for less sometimes. All heavily outperform the 3060 for less. 1080 is the only thinker here as you lose out on those RTX features such as DLSS (can sometimes be more important than the 1080s power)
Well unless the channel behind them is not a total faker that can't screw 1 screw without breaking it.He is an Amazon/Ebay/AliExpress Advertisement Channel, nothing more nothing less. This VGA that he is using can barely CUT IT for 1080p - you do the math regarding how REAL are his results.
I managed to snag an insane deal that's gonna be a secondary budget system. X570 msi board, 5800x and then 64gb of ram for $220 usd and then a while before that an arc a750 for $75. I don't hit them often but when I do holy cow it was super satisfying
@T.Lspitz It was a fb marketplace deal. Guy was upgrading and wad just looking yo get rid of it. There was someone ahead of me to look at it but passed up cause it didn't have a cpu cooler. As soon as he said there wad someone coming to look I was like shoot that deal is way to good he's gonna take it for sure. Welp that was his complaint and now I have a beastly pc core for stupid cheap. Was so happy haha
It’s really funny- I’m building a pc for my gf with used parts for around $400 budget and it’s exactly the same specs as this system. I was looking around to see what fps she would get and your video is perfect for this pc I’m half way through building
I really love how more and more people are starting to recomend Intel cards on budgets pcs i feel a bit sad that A750 was never given 10 or 12GB of vram xd
from experience (from a better manufacter too) that psu is a time bomb. i had a evga GQ 430 and puting similar specs it was just 3 months before it failed. specially with 1440p that makes peaks the power in some heavy situations.
After I upgraded my wife's gaming PC from a 3060 to the ARC A770, I thought I'd run it at 4k in Diablo 4 to see how it compares to my build which has a 4080 Super, probably as some self validation in spending so much money. With XESS1.3 running on Balanced at at all graphics settings maxed out (no RT), I had a good gaming experience with stutters only every now and again. I'm really impressed with Intels first stab at a dedicated GPU.
quite surprise how well now the driver running on arc. maybe when arc is on 3or 4 th gen i will consider it. for now im still rocking 3090. hoping more intel card on the market.
The most important thing holding me back from getting an intel arc gpu is the shit ton of pre 2014 games I had in my steam library I won't be able to play if I choose the arc. And no emulation game testing? I wonder why that is? 🤔
I've got the ASRock Arc A770 16GB card in one of my builds that I am enjoying very much. I used Heaven Benchmark to compare it to my other PC running an RTX 4070 Ti Super, and it beat it by 2 points with 363 FPS to the 361 FPS of the RTX. I strongly feel this card has the potential to be a great card when the drivers mature.
love the video, the quality always clean ETA, the pc its really nice, but I think It will take me 2 years more or 1 brand gen of new Intel gpu's out... at least to even have a thought to go for a Intel gpu.
I love this build, modern, sleek and budget friendly. Will this ARC outperform my aging Asus ROG Strix 1080? I can't afford other Nvidia cards so I hope it would. Thank you for the information as well.
I love the people are finally taking notice and paying attention to the arc series of GPUs from Intel, I know it's not enough to be their saving grace but it was such a great card and graphics option that was punching way above its weight class. It's just a shame that it was held back by poor driver implementation from Intel. I'm glad that they got it majorly straightened out but there still is lack of true driver support and I just hope that these cards don't fall off into the waistband if Intel ends up just walking out the door to never come back.
Wait, but why that ryzen 5 5600x runs at lower cpu clock in the video? Did you run it with PBO? Because mine runs 4.6 ghz while gaming, at -30 mvolts offset
I've Acer mini tower with an i5 11400 that I snagged on clearance for $170 a few months ago. I was thinking of putting one of the low profile Arc a580 cards in it for something like this, but I need to check the power supply. I might have to rebuild it in a different case with a bigger one (but then I guess I wouldn't need the LP card).
I've done a build with that same case and PSU and it's been running fine the PSU is actually quiet been my brother have been gaming like crazy on the pc
my personal build is something similar, but a 5500 instead of the 5600X and an RX 6600 instead of the A580, they're similar performance but the 6600 takes the upper hand in most games, and it's not like the 5500 or 5600X is gonna bottleneck neither of these cards, if anything, both CPUs are capable of dealing with higher end GPUs like the 6700XT for the 5500 and the 6800XT for the 5600X
The one thing that got me kinda scratching my head was that PSU, because cards that need a double 8 pin PCI external power usually tend to have a tad higher power requirement and 400 watt is cutting awfully short. I actually used to have pretty much on this machine i'm typing from (an old Socket 775 Wolfdale Core 2 Duo E8400 on Gigabyte EP43-S3L with just 3 Hard Drives and a different GPU) with a 400 Watt PSU and it would reboot itself because the PSU couldn't handle it. The machine was running Windows 7 Ultimate and had a Geforce 210 back then. With that low profile GPU and 3 mechanical drives a 400 watt power supply couldn't take it. Imagine if I tried using a GPU that required external power. That A580 must have a power draw close to a 3070 which also requires two 8 pin connectors and has as a recommended PSU wattage 650 watts if I'm not mistaken. If someone added another drive to this build you set up the PSU would probably have to be replaced
my pc is a Ryzen 5 5500, 16gb ram 3200mhz, 1tb m.2 ssd, arc a580, asus tuf a520m plus wifi. total on amazon is $509 including the thermaltake smart 600w and the GPERHUAN Micro ATX Pc Case, also a Artic P8 silent pc fan
This looks almost exactly the same as what I want to build. I'm looking at a Gigabyte B450M mobo and I'm at a toss up between the arc a580 and a used RX 5700 XT.
This is a good setup for a great price! It's too bad Steam Link VR doesn't support Arc cards, or this would be a good VR setup too. I've tried ALVR (with my Arc a750), but the performance isn't there. I haven't tried Virtual Desktop though. I use SLVR with a different computer with a much slower GPU, and it works better than ALVR on the Arc.
So my gaming pc just broke. My question is this. I still have my work laptop. Would a build like this run most games better than crossover/parallels on an M3 Pro 18GB MBP or should I stick with gaming on my laptop and just save a bit more and get a better pc next year? I just do some light triple AAA 1440p gaming on an older 60hz 34 inch ultrawide monitor so I won't have much use for fps over 60. All the games I currently play work with crossover on Mac at >60fps but not worrying about a compatibility layer like Crossover would be nice.
0:07 You are right I just checked under my pillow and indeed I have been sleeping on a ASRock Challenger Arc A580😅
Was it warm? 🙂
Now wonder my neck has been hurting lately
You're lucky the ARC fairy didn't snatch that! :O
Motherboard Fairey loves you ?
😂
4k gaming is SO OVERRATED. I'll take 1440p with great frame rates and performance over 4k everytime.
I learned this pretty quickly after i got a 4k screen
I'd like a 4k monitor for fast 1080... should look good, 4 times the leds
@@jordan-mn6yyu good man? 1080p does not even look pixelated on GTA.. you just spoiled AF
Said by someone who clearly doesn't play at 4K ultra on a OLED screen. I'll never go back to lower resolutions. The difference is Literally Night and Day.
Some people never learn... it's the gameplay not the graphics. The PS2 and Switch are two of the best selling consoles of all time because of the gameplay not graphics. They are successful because developers can churn out more games as well and take more risk as the development time is shorter. Just look at the PS5 - 80% of its library are just PS4 remasters because developing a 4K next-gen game costs so much and if the gameplay sucks, then it is over for them
Considering that used 3060Ti's are still $250/$300, that card isn't looking to shabby now.
what you cosider a good price for a used 3060ti?
@@lm_dccxl4078 As you can find things like 2080s and 1080tis for $200 or so I wouldn't buy a used 3060 for anything more than that. Its in a tough spot due to its price to performance in the used market
not for nothing but i just hit a buy it now on a 1080ti which outperforms both of the 3060ti and the a580 for $150 shipped on ebay
@@lm_dccxl4078 Less than $150. 1080/2080/3070 can be found for $200 or so and the 1080 for less sometimes. All heavily outperform the 3060 for less. 1080 is the only thinker here as you lose out on those RTX features such as DLSS (can sometimes be more important than the 1080s power)
You can get an Arc a770 cheaper than the RTX 3060 ti.
Low budget builds are my favorite. The price to performance is great!
Well unless the channel behind them is not a total faker that can't screw 1 screw without breaking it.He is an Amazon/Ebay/AliExpress Advertisement Channel, nothing more nothing less. This VGA that he is using can barely CUT IT for 1080p - you do the math regarding how REAL are his results.
@@volf3r505 well where did you saw vga port on that gpu?
@@subhasray1111 are you intentionally playing dumb? VGA/GPU are interchangeable when referring to a video card.
@@volf3r505 "VGA/GPU are interchangeable when referring to a video card."
@@johnparker007 Please stick to the SOY lattes. When I was assembling and overclocking PCs you were not born yet.
I managed to snag an insane deal that's gonna be a secondary budget system. X570 msi board, 5800x and then 64gb of ram for $220 usd and then a while before that an arc a750 for $75. I don't hit them often but when I do holy cow it was super satisfying
From?
Share the love. Pc master race.
X570 and 5800x for less than $300?!
How?
Where from?
@T.Lspitz
It was a fb marketplace deal. Guy was upgrading and wad just looking yo get rid of it. There was someone ahead of me to look at it but passed up cause it didn't have a cpu cooler. As soon as he said there wad someone coming to look I was like shoot that deal is way to good he's gonna take it for sure. Welp that was his complaint and now I have a beastly pc core for stupid cheap. Was so happy haha
@@foureyestang86 Jesus Christ where did you got that? Ebay or marketplace??
My GOD you got so much luck brother be sure to spread it around and share it with the rest of us as well.
Thats a nice GP01 you got there ETA, nice to see another gundam fan in the pc community
i just ordered today for this spec 👍🗿 i felt good
It’s really funny- I’m building a pc for my gf with used parts for around $400 budget and it’s exactly the same specs as this system. I was looking around to see what fps she would get and your video is perfect for this pc I’m half way through building
Those Rosewill cases don't exist anymore. Been out of stock for months.
I think Newegg stop having them made.
Any good clones/alternatives? These are not available in Eu...
@@kosmonautt try silverstone PS15 pro but no PSU included
Yess I love the budget builds
A real budget build? What? 😲
Tons of performance for the price. 1080p players might be pleasantly surprised.
it cant even pes at 1080
I really love how more and more people are starting to recomend Intel cards on budgets pcs
i feel a bit sad that A750 was never given 10 or 12GB of vram xd
from experience (from a better manufacter too) that psu is a time bomb. i had a evga GQ 430 and puting similar specs it was just 3 months before it failed. specially with 1440p that makes peaks the power in some heavy situations.
Intel is really one to watch in the gpu space. Can't wait to see what they launch later this year
Not a thing. Because AMD already is and is destroying them.
wow,this is the build that i really want to see.
thanks a lot for this one.
el video que necesitaba, muchas gracias hombre.
The MSI B550M-VC is a superior board for a similar price. I have one, and it works reliably with a 5800X3D and DDR4 3600 RAM.
Is the msi b550m-vc bios compatible with 5000 series cpu out of the box
When I started the video I saw the power supply and instantly guessed 580. Love that you champion Arc cards.
really looking forward to battlemage
i paired my 5600x with RX 5700xt that i bought for 100$, undervolted the card and it is amazing
i always think that the performance is not that far from their integrated gpus😭, but turns out it's actually pretty good
Wait what? Why would you think that
ARC ain't your grandpa's Intel HD. :p
@@xcqML idk man, lmao
@@Kumimono fr fr
3:05 this board is matx and not mini-itx right?
The m in matx
stands for mini and I think he meant atx
very good explanation
Amazing work! Wow!
Good to be back to the old ETA PRIME 😊
After I upgraded my wife's gaming PC from a 3060 to the ARC A770, I thought I'd run it at 4k in Diablo 4 to see how it compares to my build which has a 4080 Super, probably as some self validation in spending so much money. With XESS1.3 running on Balanced at at all graphics settings maxed out (no RT), I had a good gaming experience with stutters only every now and again. I'm really impressed with Intels first stab at a dedicated GPU.
quite surprise how well now the driver running on arc. maybe when arc is on 3or 4 th gen i will consider it. for now im still rocking 3090. hoping more intel card on the market.
The most important thing holding me back from getting an intel arc gpu is the shit ton of pre 2014 games I had in my steam library I won't be able to play if I choose the arc. And no emulation game testing? I wonder why that is? 🤔
I agree especially emulation
Left the protective plastic on the video card 😠
no, it has been removed
That had my OCD kicking in.
He probably kept it so he could sell it easily later.
I've got the ASRock Arc A770 16GB card in one of my builds that I am enjoying very much. I used Heaven Benchmark to compare it to my other PC running an RTX 4070 Ti Super, and it beat it by 2 points with 363 FPS to the 361 FPS of the RTX. I strongly feel this card has the potential to be a great card when the drivers mature.
love the video, the quality always clean ETA, the pc its really nice, but I think It will take me 2 years more or 1 brand gen of new Intel gpu's out... at least to even have a thought to go for a Intel gpu.
Great video/build! Psst, ya left the plastiguard on the GPU 🙂
I love this build, modern, sleek and budget friendly. Will this ARC outperform my aging Asus ROG Strix 1080? I can't afford other Nvidia cards so I hope it would. Thank you for the information as well.
5% faster on average according to techpowerup but with worse compatibility for older DX9 and DX10 games.
Teamgroup vulcan Z had never given me any drama
Really good ram
I watched this in 1080p on my 2k monitor. I spent a bit for my I5 11500 system, about a grand. I like the build in this video.
What does any of that have to do with anything about this video
@@RelentlessOhiox it's about building computers. I guess I can't tell anyone about my computer without someone getting offended.
Awesome! I think this could be a great compact 1440p sim racing pc! Do you think that iRacing or Assetto Corsa?
You didn't peel the GC! 😱
he did off camera
great build. can you make a portable budget gaming desktop include a portable monitor.
Can you do a comparison between the A580 and the rx6600xt in this same setup?
I'd like to see one your game tests is either xplane or MSFS to know if the mini pcs can handle it
I don’t like any case without a basement!
How does the A580 compare to the A750? Is the extra money worth it?
just buy a used 3070 or 6800
Have you ever built a PC with the Cooler Master Q300L? It seems like a good micro ATX case. I think you would like it!
Please put out an emulation video with this one.
I love the people are finally taking notice and paying attention to the arc series of GPUs from Intel, I know it's not enough to be their saving grace but it was such a great card and graphics option that was punching way above its weight class. It's just a shame that it was held back by poor driver implementation from Intel. I'm glad that they got it majorly straightened out but there still is lack of true driver support and I just hope that these cards don't fall off into the waistband if Intel ends up just walking out the door to never come back.
good build man, just up that power supply to a 500-650w from a good brand just to be sure
High end emulation tests please
Great work !!! can you do the make job for a combo fast low budget for photo work processing ?
Great video
Wait, but why that ryzen 5 5600x runs at lower cpu clock in the video? Did you run it with PBO? Because mine runs 4.6 ghz while gaming, at -30 mvolts offset
This ia great stuff
Sweet!!
Hmmmn for upgrading both the cpu and the gpu is good? I mean the motherboard
Curious more about it's encoding/decoding performance
Is this build useful for upgradin both the cpu and gpu in the future??
I am wondering if this build would work with Intel arc b580?
Hope you include tekken 8 for benchmarking in your future videos.
I've Acer mini tower with an i5 11400 that I snagged on clearance for $170 a few months ago. I was thinking of putting one of the low profile Arc a580 cards in it for something like this, but I need to check the power supply. I might have to rebuild it in a different case with a bigger one (but then I guess I wouldn't need the LP card).
I wouldn't trust that PSU, myself.
or trying to pull 180 watts out of PCIE that's only supposed to supply 150w on a daisy chain.
I've done a build with that same case and PSU and it's been running fine the PSU is actually quiet been my brother have been gaming like crazy on the pc
At 9:54 how is your VRAM usage above 8gb? 💀
my personal build is something similar, but a 5500 instead of the 5600X and an RX 6600 instead of the A580, they're similar performance but the 6600 takes the upper hand in most games, and it's not like the 5500 or 5600X is gonna bottleneck neither of these cards, if anything, both CPUs are capable of dealing with higher end GPUs like the 6700XT for the 5500 and the 6800XT for the 5600X
Alternative for an all intel build? What cpu should I choose?
for 170 bucks in the US god damn, that's value
The one thing that got me kinda scratching my head was that PSU, because cards that need a double 8 pin PCI external power usually tend to have a tad higher power requirement and 400 watt is cutting awfully short. I actually used to have pretty much on this machine i'm typing from (an old Socket 775 Wolfdale Core 2 Duo E8400 on Gigabyte EP43-S3L with just 3 Hard Drives and a different GPU) with a 400 Watt PSU and it would reboot itself because the PSU couldn't handle it. The machine was running Windows 7 Ultimate and had a Geforce 210 back then. With that low profile GPU and 3 mechanical drives a 400 watt power supply couldn't take it. Imagine if I tried using a GPU that required external power. That A580 must have a power draw close to a 3070 which also requires two 8 pin connectors and has as a recommended PSU wattage 650 watts if I'm not mistaken. If someone added another drive to this build you set up the PSU would probably have to be replaced
I wonder how a second hand 750 or 770 would stack up.
Great vid
Did they fix the driver issues with some games such as GTAV?
How would this go as HTPC/Media PC?
You locked the CPU to 4.18 ghz?
Emulations test please 😁🥺
I wonder how much of these performance numbers are the 5600x vs the a580?
You said 1440p gaming yet your Game Spy benchmark was ran in 1080p? Am I missing something 8:31
it is 1080 gaming but visually not match just yet
im basing on card perfs, im fine w it so far for personal entertainment, but seems slower lately
Would be great to see how this small monster will work on linux (bazzite/chimera)
A bomb instead of a psu is crazy
What's the recommended wattage psu required to run the system? 400w seems pushing it.
Do you use Ethernet or do you use a pcie WiFi card
I really want to know how he sets up his MSI Afterburner stats like that LOL
Can you do budget build with the Arc a750?
What's the rating on the PSU? I don't see any 80+
How would emulation hold up on this pc
man i love my arc a580
my pc is a Ryzen 5 5500, 16gb ram 3200mhz, 1tb m.2 ssd, arc a580, asus tuf a520m plus wifi. total on amazon is $509 including the thermaltake smart 600w and the GPERHUAN Micro ATX Pc Case, also a Artic P8 silent pc fan
This looks almost exactly the same as what I want to build. I'm looking at a Gigabyte B450M mobo and I'm at a toss up between the arc a580 and a used RX 5700 XT.
Please make test for emulation
This is a good setup for a great price! It's too bad Steam Link VR doesn't support Arc cards, or this would be a good VR setup too. I've tried ALVR (with my Arc a750), but the performance isn't there. I haven't tried Virtual Desktop though. I use SLVR with a different computer with a much slower GPU, and it works better than ALVR on the Arc.
FYI, the eBay link for the CPU doesn't work for me. Not sure if anyone else is having the same issue.
How is it ok to use the 8 pin splitter cable for the GPU? I thought you had to have a separate power cable for each connector.
Do you think the A580 is a good match for i7-7700 with 32GB RAM? I am currently using an old GTX 980, and she saw better times tbh…
Might want to check if you MB supports resizeable BAR, if it does, go for it, if not, don't
The protective plastic still on the graphics card. dying...
its not on there
so he can return that thing
how can that run 1440p while my 4060 only runs 1080p
if i wanted to slightly upgrade 8580 and go a little higher price range, what would you recommend ?
Hey ETA do you know of any alternatives for the case? It seems to be unavailable everywhere...
Dude, where did you get that AMD heatsink with LED?
I need one of those!
This cpu cooler comes only with ryzen 1700 non x!I hade one before with the cpu
what would be the total cost?
The link for that processor does not work
Can I mod fo4 with this, without it slowing down?
The thing I don't like about the Intel GPU's is that they use too much power for the graphic output compared to NVidia.
In what situatuion is the arc 580 better value then the 5700xt
So my gaming pc just broke. My question is this. I still have my work laptop. Would a build like this run most games better than crossover/parallels on an M3 Pro 18GB MBP or should I stick with gaming on my laptop and just save a bit more and get a better pc next year? I just do some light triple AAA 1440p gaming on an older 60hz 34 inch ultrawide monitor so I won't have much use for fps over 60. All the games I currently play work with crossover on Mac at >60fps but not worrying about a compatibility layer like Crossover would be nice.
Anyone know where to find the motherboard he used? I can only find micro ATX.
The board he uses is an mATX aka micro ATX. So i guess u found the right one 😊
@Cofsta I'm so confused because he says it's a micro itx, and then at about 4:04, he again implies it's micro itx
love that little ring 🤪
Can you put steam os on hp 2 in 1 computer??