Said by someone who clearly doesn't play at 4K ultra on a OLED screen. I'll never go back to lower resolutions. The difference is Literally Night and Day.
Some people never learn... it's the gameplay not the graphics. The PS2 and Switch are two of the best selling consoles of all time because of the gameplay not graphics. They are successful because developers can churn out more games as well and take more risk as the development time is shorter. Just look at the PS5 - 80% of its library are just PS4 remasters because developing a 4K next-gen game costs so much and if the gameplay sucks, then it is over for them
I managed to snag an insane deal that's gonna be a secondary budget system. X570 msi board, 5800x and then 64gb of ram for $220 usd and then a while before that an arc a750 for $75. I don't hit them often but when I do holy cow it was super satisfying
@T.Lspitz It was a fb marketplace deal. Guy was upgrading and wad just looking yo get rid of it. There was someone ahead of me to look at it but passed up cause it didn't have a cpu cooler. As soon as he said there wad someone coming to look I was like shoot that deal is way to good he's gonna take it for sure. Welp that was his complaint and now I have a beastly pc core for stupid cheap. Was so happy haha
Well unless the channel behind them is not a total faker that can't screw 1 screw without breaking it.He is an Amazon/Ebay/AliExpress Advertisement Channel, nothing more nothing less. This VGA that he is using can barely CUT IT for 1080p - you do the math regarding how REAL are his results.
@@lm_dccxl4078 As you can find things like 2080s and 1080tis for $200 or so I wouldn't buy a used 3060 for anything more than that. Its in a tough spot due to its price to performance in the used market
@@lm_dccxl4078 Less than $150. 1080/2080/3070 can be found for $200 or so and the 1080 for less sometimes. All heavily outperform the 3060 for less. 1080 is the only thinker here as you lose out on those RTX features such as DLSS (can sometimes be more important than the 1080s power)
It’s really funny- I’m building a pc for my gf with used parts for around $400 budget and it’s exactly the same specs as this system. I was looking around to see what fps she would get and your video is perfect for this pc I’m half way through building
The most important thing holding me back from getting an intel arc gpu is the shit ton of pre 2014 games I had in my steam library I won't be able to play if I choose the arc. And no emulation game testing? I wonder why that is? 🤔
I've got the ASRock Arc A770 16GB card in one of my builds that I am enjoying very much. I used Heaven Benchmark to compare it to my other PC running an RTX 4070 Ti Super, and it beat it by 2 points with 363 FPS to the 361 FPS of the RTX. I strongly feel this card has the potential to be a great card when the drivers mature.
I love this build, modern, sleek and budget friendly. Will this ARC outperform my aging Asus ROG Strix 1080? I can't afford other Nvidia cards so I hope it would. Thank you for the information as well.
So far this is the best low budget build I seen this year and this build make lot if sens due to amd and nvidia price of there gpu.I'm gonna copy this build and make as 1080p machine so it's gonna perform way more good then 1440p
Wait, but why that ryzen 5 5600x runs at lower cpu clock in the video? Did you run it with PBO? Because mine runs 4.6 ghz while gaming, at -30 mvolts offset
You could save a bit more by going with a b450 or even b350 board and going with a 5600 non x. An rx5700/6600 xt or non xt are also good choices for GPU in that price range.
my pc is a Ryzen 5 5500, 16gb ram 3200mhz, 1tb m.2 ssd, arc a580, asus tuf a520m plus wifi. total on amazon is $509 including the thermaltake smart 600w and the GPERHUAN Micro ATX Pc Case, also a Artic P8 silent pc fan
This looks almost exactly the same as what I want to build. I'm looking at a Gigabyte B450M mobo and I'm at a toss up between the arc a580 and a used RX 5700 XT.
reminder all these intel gpu's requires REBAR to be enabled at the bios level for optimal performance. since my computer doesnt have this feat i have to go with either nvidia or AMD
The need for REBAR is the biggest no no for arc gpus for budget builds as an upgrade if you have an older motherboard. AMD and Nvidia have the advantage there too (aside from drivers) If Intel commits to it and keep going the Arc GPUs have promising future ahead though
@@felipelopes4376 i think ETA should have mentioned this because i think it might mislead some ppl that have older motherboards and may think that this low cost gpu would come in handy when in fact it could perform worse than shown on video.
@@polarvortex6601 It was one of the things I've commented on pretty much every Hardware Unboxed video featuring an Arc GPU from my other YT account. The REBAR requirement "kills" these GPUs quicker than bad drivers ever could. I understand the drive and will to push the needle forward but for Intel this is their first real knock on the door in the GPU market in a long time and they did acknowledge it by the asking prices on their GPUs but needing to "join the club" not making these an upgrade option in the cheapest way possible which is letting folks slot one of these into their older PCs is a bit of an oversight imo and Motherboards don't even need to be that old to not have REBAR which kind of makes it a bit worse
other people said this gpu card get really bad fps on Starfield from bethesda on 2023, its an entry level right? and i believe intel need a lot of time to optimizing or updating their driver and because of your video playing fallout 4.. it feels like, damn i love fallout 4 so much.. maybe i'd like to put this card on my build or wait for intel battlemage on middle of 2024 its very insane price & performance
So my gaming pc just broke. My question is this. I still have my work laptop. Would a build like this run most games better than crossover/parallels on an M3 Pro 18GB MBP or should I stick with gaming on my laptop and just save a bit more and get a better pc next year? I just do some light triple AAA 1440p gaming on an older 60hz 34 inch ultrawide monitor so I won't have much use for fps over 60. All the games I currently play work with crossover on Mac at >60fps but not worrying about a compatibility layer like Crossover would be nice.
that build was just 450 USD? yoo that's impossible in my country my build is slightly worst than this (mostly for the CPU) but it costed me above 1000 USD 😅
I got an a750 with a ryzen 5 5600g and my performance is kinda weird, if i put fortnite in high i only get 60-90 fps at 1080p. IDK what am i doing wrong, i got docp and resize bar enabled, updated all of the drivers and everything. Can someone help?
I usually game on the xbox but I'm thinking of building me a low budget pc I don't want to spend much I just want to play a specific game gears eday when it comes out in 2025. can this pc built play gears eday when it comes out?
This PSU seems really weird. 8 pin EPS and 2 8 Pin PCIe on a 400w unit? Someone didnt adhere to guidance. According to spec, this PSU can output 600w through those connectors alone. Very weird
0:07 You are right I just checked under my pillow and indeed I have been sleeping on a ASRock Challenger Arc A580😅
Was it warm? 🙂
Now wonder my neck has been hurting lately
You're lucky the ARC fairy didn't snatch that! :O
Motherboard Fairey loves you ?
😂
4k gaming is SO OVERRATED. I'll take 1440p with great frame rates and performance over 4k everytime.
I learned this pretty quickly after i got a 4k screen
I'd like a 4k monitor for fast 1080... should look good, 4 times the leds
@@jordan-mn6yyu good man? 1080p does not even look pixelated on GTA.. you just spoiled AF
Said by someone who clearly doesn't play at 4K ultra on a OLED screen. I'll never go back to lower resolutions. The difference is Literally Night and Day.
Some people never learn... it's the gameplay not the graphics. The PS2 and Switch are two of the best selling consoles of all time because of the gameplay not graphics. They are successful because developers can churn out more games as well and take more risk as the development time is shorter. Just look at the PS5 - 80% of its library are just PS4 remasters because developing a 4K next-gen game costs so much and if the gameplay sucks, then it is over for them
I managed to snag an insane deal that's gonna be a secondary budget system. X570 msi board, 5800x and then 64gb of ram for $220 usd and then a while before that an arc a750 for $75. I don't hit them often but when I do holy cow it was super satisfying
From?
Share the love. Pc master race.
X570 and 5800x for less than $300?!
How?
Where from?
@T.Lspitz
It was a fb marketplace deal. Guy was upgrading and wad just looking yo get rid of it. There was someone ahead of me to look at it but passed up cause it didn't have a cpu cooler. As soon as he said there wad someone coming to look I was like shoot that deal is way to good he's gonna take it for sure. Welp that was his complaint and now I have a beastly pc core for stupid cheap. Was so happy haha
@@foureyestang86 Jesus Christ where did you got that? Ebay or marketplace??
My GOD you got so much luck brother be sure to spread it around and share it with the rest of us as well.
Low budget builds are my favorite. The price to performance is great!
Well unless the channel behind them is not a total faker that can't screw 1 screw without breaking it.He is an Amazon/Ebay/AliExpress Advertisement Channel, nothing more nothing less. This VGA that he is using can barely CUT IT for 1080p - you do the math regarding how REAL are his results.
@@volf3r505 well where did you saw vga port on that gpu?
@@subhasray1111 are you intentionally playing dumb? VGA/GPU are interchangeable when referring to a video card.
@@volf3r505 "VGA/GPU are interchangeable when referring to a video card."
@@johnparker007 Please stick to the SOY lattes. When I was assembling and overclocking PCs you were not born yet.
Thats a nice GP01 you got there ETA, nice to see another gundam fan in the pc community
Considering that used 3060Ti's are still $250/$300, that card isn't looking to shabby now.
what you cosider a good price for a used 3060ti?
@@lm_dccxl4078 As you can find things like 2080s and 1080tis for $200 or so I wouldn't buy a used 3060 for anything more than that. Its in a tough spot due to its price to performance in the used market
not for nothing but i just hit a buy it now on a 1080ti which outperforms both of the 3060ti and the a580 for $150 shipped on ebay
@@lm_dccxl4078 Less than $150. 1080/2080/3070 can be found for $200 or so and the 1080 for less sometimes. All heavily outperform the 3060 for less. 1080 is the only thinker here as you lose out on those RTX features such as DLSS (can sometimes be more important than the 1080s power)
You can get an Arc a770 cheaper than the RTX 3060 ti.
Those Rosewill cases don't exist anymore. Been out of stock for months.
I think Newegg stop having them made.
Any good clones/alternatives? These are not available in Eu...
@@kosmonautt try silverstone PS15 pro but no PSU included
It’s really funny- I’m building a pc for my gf with used parts for around $400 budget and it’s exactly the same specs as this system. I was looking around to see what fps she would get and your video is perfect for this pc I’m half way through building
A real budget build? What? 😲
Tons of performance for the price. 1080p players might be pleasantly surprised.
it cant even pes at 1080
The MSI B550M-VC is a superior board for a similar price. I have one, and it works reliably with a 5800X3D and DDR4 3600 RAM.
Is the msi b550m-vc bios compatible with 5000 series cpu out of the box
Yess I love the budget builds
i paired my 5600x with RX 5700xt that i bought for 100$, undervolted the card and it is amazing
The most important thing holding me back from getting an intel arc gpu is the shit ton of pre 2014 games I had in my steam library I won't be able to play if I choose the arc. And no emulation game testing? I wonder why that is? 🤔
I agree especially emulation
Left the protective plastic on the video card 😠
no, it has been removed
That had my OCD kicking in.
He probably kept it so he could sell it easily later.
Intel is really one to watch in the gpu space. Can't wait to see what they launch later this year
Not a thing. Because AMD already is and is destroying them.
i always think that the performance is not that far from their integrated gpus😭, but turns out it's actually pretty good
Wait what? Why would you think that
ARC ain't your grandpa's Intel HD. :p
@@xcqML idk man, lmao
@@Kumimono fr fr
When I started the video I saw the power supply and instantly guessed 580. Love that you champion Arc cards.
High end emulation tests please
really looking forward to battlemage
You didn't peel the GC! 😱
he did off camera
I've got the ASRock Arc A770 16GB card in one of my builds that I am enjoying very much. I used Heaven Benchmark to compare it to my other PC running an RTX 4070 Ti Super, and it beat it by 2 points with 363 FPS to the 361 FPS of the RTX. I strongly feel this card has the potential to be a great card when the drivers mature.
I love this build, modern, sleek and budget friendly. Will this ARC outperform my aging Asus ROG Strix 1080? I can't afford other Nvidia cards so I hope it would. Thank you for the information as well.
5% faster on average according to techpowerup but with worse compatibility for older DX9 and DX10 games.
wow,this is the build that i really want to see.
thanks a lot for this one.
So far this is the best low budget build I seen this year and this build make lot if sens due to amd and nvidia price of there gpu.I'm gonna copy this build and make as 1080p machine so it's gonna perform way more good then 1440p
Please put out an emulation video with this one.
Can you do a comparison between the A580 and the rx6600xt in this same setup?
Teamgroup vulcan Z had never given me any drama
Really good ram
I watched this in 1080p on my 2k monitor. I spent a bit for my I5 11500 system, about a grand. I like the build in this video.
What does any of that have to do with anything about this video
@@RelentlessOhiox it's about building computers. I guess I can't tell anyone about my computer without someone getting offended.
Wait, but why that ryzen 5 5600x runs at lower cpu clock in the video? Did you run it with PBO? Because mine runs 4.6 ghz while gaming, at -30 mvolts offset
good build man, just up that power supply to a 500-650w from a good brand just to be sure
You could save a bit more by going with a b450 or even b350 board and going with a 5600 non x. An rx5700/6600 xt or non xt are also good choices for GPU in that price range.
I'd like to see one your game tests is either xplane or MSFS to know if the mini pcs can handle it
Sweet!!
great build. can you make a portable budget gaming desktop include a portable monitor.
How does the A580 compare to the A750? Is the extra money worth it?
just buy a used 3070 or 6800
for 170 bucks in the US god damn, that's value
How would this go as HTPC/Media PC?
Amazing work! Wow!
Emulations test please 😁🥺
Hope you include tekken 8 for benchmarking in your future videos.
Great work !!! can you do the make job for a combo fast low budget for photo work processing ?
Great video
What's the recommended wattage psu required to run the system? 400w seems pushing it.
A bomb instead of a psu is crazy
Would be great to see how this small monster will work on linux (bazzite/chimera)
There's a mod that let's you play Fallout 4 with XESS, FSR, or DLSS.
man i love my arc a580
my pc is a Ryzen 5 5500, 16gb ram 3200mhz, 1tb m.2 ssd, arc a580, asus tuf a520m plus wifi. total on amazon is $509 including the thermaltake smart 600w and the GPERHUAN Micro ATX Pc Case, also a Artic P8 silent pc fan
This looks almost exactly the same as what I want to build. I'm looking at a Gigabyte B450M mobo and I'm at a toss up between the arc a580 and a used RX 5700 XT.
FYI, the eBay link for the CPU doesn't work for me. Not sure if anyone else is having the same issue.
reminder all these intel gpu's requires REBAR to be enabled at the bios level for optimal performance. since my computer doesnt have this feat i have to go with either nvidia or AMD
The need for REBAR is the biggest no no for arc gpus for budget builds as an upgrade if you have an older motherboard. AMD and Nvidia have the advantage there too (aside from drivers) If Intel commits to it and keep going the Arc GPUs have promising future ahead though
@@felipelopes4376 i think ETA should have mentioned this because i think it might mislead some ppl that have older motherboards and may think that this low cost gpu would come in handy when in fact it could perform worse than shown on video.
@@polarvortex6601 It was one of the things I've commented on pretty much every Hardware Unboxed video featuring an Arc GPU from my other YT account. The REBAR requirement "kills" these GPUs quicker than bad drivers ever could. I understand the drive and will to push the needle forward but for Intel this is their first real knock on the door in the GPU market in a long time and they did acknowledge it by the asking prices on their GPUs but needing to "join the club" not making these an upgrade option in the cheapest way possible which is letting folks slot one of these into their older PCs is a bit of an oversight imo and Motherboards don't even need to be that old to not have REBAR which kind of makes it a bit worse
Curious more about it's encoding/decoding performance
I really want to know how he sets up his MSI Afterburner stats like that LOL
Alternative for an all intel build? What cpu should I choose?
that 5600x allways on 60ºc is kinda strange, i have the same motherboard and cpu but i have 80ºc
other people said this gpu card get really bad fps on Starfield from bethesda on 2023, its an entry level right? and i believe intel need a lot of time to optimizing or updating their driver
and because of your video playing fallout 4..
it feels like, damn i love fallout 4 so much.. maybe i'd like to put this card on my build or wait for intel battlemage on middle of 2024
its very insane price & performance
Who prefers pronouncing ryzen CPU’s as ‘ five six hundred’ in comparison to ‘fifty six hundred’
Can someone please help me with a list of motherboards that is compatible with this card, please and thank you.
Please make test for emulation
So my gaming pc just broke. My question is this. I still have my work laptop. Would a build like this run most games better than crossover/parallels on an M3 Pro 18GB MBP or should I stick with gaming on my laptop and just save a bit more and get a better pc next year? I just do some light triple AAA 1440p gaming on an older 60hz 34 inch ultrawide monitor so I won't have much use for fps over 60. All the games I currently play work with crossover on Mac at >60fps but not worrying about a compatibility layer like Crossover would be nice.
if i wanted to slightly upgrade 8580 and go a little higher price range, what would you recommend ?
that build was just 450 USD? yoo that's impossible in my country
my build is slightly worst than this (mostly for the CPU) but it costed me above 1000 USD 😅
Did they fix the driver issues with some games such as GTAV?
I got an a750 with a ryzen 5 5600g and my performance is kinda weird, if i put fortnite in high i only get 60-90 fps at 1080p. IDK what am i doing wrong, i got docp and resize bar enabled, updated all of the drivers and everything. Can someone help?
Great vid
I wonder how much of these performance numbers are the 5600x vs the a580?
I usually game on the xbox but I'm thinking of building me a low budget pc I don't want to spend much I just want to play a specific game gears eday when it comes out in 2025. can this pc built play gears eday when it comes out?
This PSU seems really weird. 8 pin EPS and 2 8 Pin PCIe on a 400w unit? Someone didnt adhere to guidance. According to spec, this PSU can output 600w through those connectors alone. Very weird
Do you use Ethernet or do you use a pcie WiFi card
Would never use this brand in PSU or Case.
the case is good enough, psu, i think you are right
@@betag24cn Yeah, the case is just steel with screw holes.
Can you do budget build with the Arc a750?
Dude, where did you get that AMD heatsink with LED?
I need one of those!
This cpu cooler comes only with ryzen 1700 non x!I hade one before with the cpu
Not many people want an intel gpu! It's too much of a compromise when it comes to compatibility and consistency.
Yikes mate! You gotta remove the peel from the Gfx Card!
ofc he is a gundam fan
How would emulation hold up on this pc
How,much total?
i think if i were u i wouldve bought the gtx 1080 for the gpu
I clicked on this for the gundam lol
Can I mod fo4 with this, without it slowing down?
I don’t get the same fps i use i5 10400f and arc580
In what situatuion is the arc 580 better value then the 5700xt
this will become the new rx580
At 9:54 how is your VRAM usage above 8gb? 💀
you should get an a750 over an a580 ngl.
build a thunderbolt egpu...
You locked the CPU to 4.18 ghz?
You said 1440p gaming yet your Game Spy benchmark was ran in 1080p? Am I missing something 8:31
it is 1080 gaming but visually not match just yet
im basing on card perfs, im fine w it so far for personal entertainment, but seems slower lately
Can you put steam os on hp 2 in 1 computer??
Spend the extra to get a 1TB or 2 TB drive. 500GB isn't enough in 2024, when one game can be over 100GB.
Spend the extra $30 and get the A770 8GB card instead of the A580.
Meh - A used 2070 Super is the same price as that A580 and about 25% faster.
Nice 😀
those intel gpu sales must be really low to promote it like this
it is kinda sad, not really, is just intel
Am sorry but 400 psu for a card that has a 2 í pin pcie doesnt look good st all especially from that brand
I buyed a new system under 900 euro with all new components included RX 6800 XFX - this Arc A580 is a 8GB card so not worthing
honestly a refurbished rx 6650 xt from new egg for 200$ is more than sure a way better idea than this arc gpu
mATX?
I had to laugh - Fallout 4 high 1440p? My 780XTX gets around 55 fps on high settings at 1440p with no upscaling...144 hz no issues 😃
$165 GPU. It ain't 2021 anymore.
Builds use to be with Intel CPU and amd GPU now it's reversed 😂
Amd cpu and intel gpu,interesting combo