@@mystechry Depends on the game tho. From what I've noticed. Unreal Engine based games is VRAM thirsty. Even on 1080p low setting, they'll eat up all the available video memories. Yet still suffering from texture load issues.
@@fajaradi1223 Sure, there are always special cases where you might need more power. I am simply happy, that I can play almost any game now on a low power handheld device at 800p 30/60fps. It's great times for those who don't need too much quality. Actually it's also great times for those, who want max quality ;)
@@mystechry only genre I can think of that almost requires 4k is simulators and mainly then to see instrument/gauge clusters (lookin at you, ETS/ATS and DCS). otherwise? yeah.
11:36 Not sure if anyone mentioned this already, but the i7-4790 was released in 2014, definitely NOT in 2017. Thanks for another great video. Keep up the good work, ETA Prime!
For a few months back in 2020 I did this exact thing with several Optiplexes and then flipped them. I made a little money on each one, too. I couldn't get a 1080 for cheap at that time, but RX 480s and a couple 1060s found their way into the systems. Wish I could start doing that again.
My first gaming pc was a Dell XPS with an i7-6700 and i put a gtx 1060 in there. I was so happy that it can run most of the games i wanted to play for so cheap too!
Love you videos. I follow at lot of "tech deals" channels that constantly keep telling people that they need to upgrade every two years to have a decent gaming experience. it's annoying especially for people that don't have the money to buy expensive parts for a PC.
@@MrDrewseph yeah. He used to give a lot of good budget builds. But now he's just like " An 8 core cpu is not worth it". A 10900k is obsolete you need to change." So annoying. I did unsubscribed.
@@flameshana9 I'm never upgrading. I'm already playing in 4k. 1440p and 2160p is the limit. Buy a new GPU it will be the same thing, upgrade for nothing. Anything higher you have no choice but to upscale.
I'm lucky enough to have a pretty powerful and modern PC, but like a lot of folks I very much prefer watching builds that have a smaller budget, are a bit lower spec and often have used parts. I think it's partly because my very first PC build was done on a budget with used parts, and I have fond memories of that machine because of what it taught me and the joy that came with it. But also it's just much more interesting - you have to use your head a bit more putting together a system on a budget, and there's generally more problem-solving to be done especially with modifying things like an Optiplex, but it can be so much more satisfying in the end. A few years ago I upgraded an SFF Optiplex with a GTX 1050 and SSD for my friend to use 'temporarily' after their gaming PC died. Worked so well they were using it right up until they upgraded this year 😅
DO NOT BUY SUCH POWER SUPPLIES. They're fine for low-power systems, but for a high-end system like this one, a quality PSU is the most important component. Not only is it going to run more efficiently and be quieter, but because of the design of these units, you will run into constant shut-downs or even worse, damage your CPU, motherboard or graphics card. Spending $30-40 more for a quality, reputable unit, which will last longer and run better is a no-brainer.
@@denkrblx437 No, they're not. They lie about their efficiency ratings and generally use low quality components. The most important thing when picking out a PSU for a high power graphics card is transient response and it's terrible on pretty much all lower price power supplies, so you HAVE to get a good one from the get-go.
@@miktheveg well i mean they cant have super high quality components for the price. a cheap psu like aresgame is okay if you use it for a few months maybe a 1-2 years.
@@denkrblx437 Which is why you shouldn't even buy it in the first place. A Super Flower Legion costs $57 and a Phanteks AMP is 70, it makes absolutely no sense to buy a unit which you know will at best, fail and at worst, become a risk for your PC components just to penny pinch 20-30 bucks
I have this type of build. A refurbished Dell and a new graphics card. I suspected the stock psu was the reason for my frequent shutdowns. I didn't know it could damage my components tho. Time to upgrade.
You can perform a fairly simple bios modification to this system that will allow you to boot from NVME storage. The 4x PCIe slot is an older generation than the 16x slot, and the 4x slot will bottleneck the NVME to about 1500 mb/s. It is still a fantastic upgrade that makes the system really snappy and improves load times. Do a web search to find the instructions.
Did run an nvme in my 4790k and it was a big boost, had to use an adapter,. Since the onboard was 2x and didn't work with the pci3 x4 drives. Jumped to Ryzen about 4 years ago now.
@@ozmobozo start compiling modern programs... When you're touching thousands of files... It makes a huge difference. I mean it's a few seconds vs code to a minute most of the time, but when you're waiting it's huge. And when hard drives take a fraction of an hour, those days were painful.
@@aztracker1 Ah yes lacking the m.2 slot is the biggest bottleneck for "compiling a program" or something like "rendering a 4k video" on this kind of computers sorry my bad. I'll definitely use a PCI-e adapter to slap a Gen4 NVME drive next time before compiling modern programs on my decade old Dell optiplex.
I had a similar build with an i5 4670 and an inno3d 1080. Worked flawlessly for years, but my trusty quad core really showed its age with Elden Ring. It hovered around 45fps at any resolution and setting combo I threw at it. 9 year old i5 quad cores won't cut it anymore, and by the looks of it, even higher end i7s. Luckily, I swapped over to a Ryzen 5 2600, and my performance went up to a decent level for a gtx 1080.
I tried a combination of i5 4440 + GTX 1070 it was really good. Processor power went to the i7 by 8.56%. In addition to the old GEN PCI-E on the mother board + CPU bottleneck.
Thanks this video, especially for the idea with the 24 to 8 pin-adapter. I had an old optiplex at home, but didn't thought that it could be modified as simple as this...
I just did this build!! I had a left over OptiPlex from the office with same CPU and slapped my 2070 Super in it! Works great! Very tight fit for the GPU!!!
Still using my 9020 with GTX 1660 super in 2023. Perfect for people getting into pc gaming or on a budget. Don’t let the low specs fool you. I can stream whiling playing foreskin. FPS around 120 to 144.
Picked up a 4790k off ebay for under 100 bucks for my current machine. If you're looking to stay inexpensive (which is the key word here) you can do a LOT worse.
Great build there. Im always happy with the builds you show. I'm not all that picky either when it comes to gaming either. I'm happy with just 720p. I dont need all the 1080p or 4k, so all your builds work for something like i would build. I have built one of your builds before and it works great with retro gaming. Keep up the great work and Content.
Videos like this are a great sanity check for people, like me, who spend a lot of time in tech-enthusiast communities. It's easy to get caught up in the hype about the latest and greatest, but you can still do quite well with very modest hardware. In fact I would say that newer hardware loses value, gaming wise, with each new iteration--because the number of games out there today will always dwarf the number of new games made between today and the next new GPU. In other words, I can play just about every game ever made on my current hardware, probably 20 lifetimes worth of good games. The next new hardware upgrade will only allow me, at best, to play a few dozen more. I probably wouldn't buy this rig, because I hate Dell's proprietary cases/motherboards, but the perf/dollar is amazing.
The gtx 1080 is still a strong card. I had mine for 7 years before I upgraded in 2023 and never had any issues with it apart from a fan bearing but that's just because it was used for so long.
I have the same optiplex, minus the 16gb and the gpu. Wanted to buy a new gpu but anything above rtx 2060 bottlenecks so i'm planing on building a new system first.
This was a great video! Do you think you might do a 2022 build guide on a mini-ATX mobo? I remember you did a video on an emulation PC build that I think was mini-ATX with a unique form factor case (that was vertical instead of horizontal). I enjoy the fun niche builds (even if they are a little more pricey than a budget build or just buying a Steam Deck).
that's what I thought, too! An used X 370 or B450 AM4 motherboard and whatever Ryzen it comes with. Let it be a Ryzen 1400, 1600, 2600 ... that is more than enough to start with and to fire up a graphics card like a GTX 1070/ 1080/ 2070/ RX 5600/ 5700. The upgrade path later on would be a Ryzen 3600/ 5600 up to a 5800 X3D if the board is compatible. You've got the DDR4 advantage, can combine it later with a RTX 3080 or something ... these are good times for used PC builds.
@@JPVolvo Honestly my 1700 doesn't struggle in any game besides Star Citizen (and, well, it's STAR CITIZEN, of course it does, lol), at least that I've tried.
I largely agree. My steam deck has been great for replaying some favorites. But I don't think I'd like 720 on a 27" screen. Works like a charm on the Deck's screen, though
Throughout this year I've been weighing between keeping my 4770 system or sell it and switch to AMD 3xxx. But over and over again reviews like this came up and put my decision on hold.
Worth noting that going from a 4790k w/ gtx 1080 to even a r5 3600 with nvme is a massive and noticable performance difference. When I did my Ryzen jump that's where I came from and to. The 3600 was a placeholder (now in my SO's computer) definitely worth it. And still run to upgrade from there all the way to a 5800x3d or 5950X.
@@aztracker1 that's nice. My plan is to use my PC until early next year and switch to 5600G and then add a 6700 XT. My i7 still have a few cards in it's hands.
I have noticed that some engines don't like to go above a certain FPS. The combination of something like a 1660 or a 1070 with this Haswell processor probably would have put it at its limit. The gtx 1080 really needs something like coffee lake six core or R5 3600 to really stretch its legs. Occasionally you see outliers like cyberpunk in this case really taking advantage of the GPU and not necessarily giving you a ton of FPS but definitely giving you good fidelity.
I am a fan from Germany. I have a built right now some quite similar settings. Started with a i5 4570 and a GTX 1660 ti, switched over to SFF builds and use right now a i7 6700 with a GTX 1650 and a R7 5700x with a RTX a2000. SFF is the way to go for me. I will try to get a SFF build with a rtx 4060 lp or with a rizer card and my R7... So I will go to put the A2000 in the i7 6700... I love all your videos and I definitely go all for the 1080p. I don't have any monitor with higher resolution yet (and only 60 hertz). In most cases I try to emulate My old games on my PC or phone. I just started 15 months ago after 10 years of abstinence from PC gaming and your channel was the first I joined. Thank you 😊
I currently have a PC with a 1080 and a 6700K, but for the past few months several of the other components, such as motherboard and RAM have started exhibiting issues, so I will be sticking with my Steam Deck and XBox Series X for the bigger titles. I will definitely keep my 1080 though, since if I find a cheap PC at some point, without a graphics card, it will come in really handy. I have never had any issues pushing games up to 1440p60, at around medium settings, or going 1080p60 on high, and ever since getting the Steam Deck, where I play most everything on low at 540p40 for the best battery life, I don't actually see the reason to upgrade to a new PC.
@@Clos93 that's PS Vita resolution and some Nintendo Switch games on handheld mode. I bet it is more blurry on SD than on Vita or Switch because of screen size and screen res.
@@main_tak_becus6689Due to FSR, it isn't actually blurry. I also only run it at that res when using it as a handheld, and on games that are not too visually busy. The vegetation in Horizon Zero Dawn looked horrible at 540p, so I ran that at 720p. but something like Metro Exodus looks amazing at 540p with FSR. It even creates a bigger sense of dread, due to not always being able to see what things in the distance are, not unlike horror titles from the PS2 era.
I recently bought one of these optiplexes souped up by Skytech USA LLC. Mine had an i7 4770, 1660 Super, 16gb ddr3, 256GBSSD+3TBHDD, WITH Kb&M. It cost 336 shipped before taxes. Not bad in my opinion. I've already got a 3800X 16GBddr4 rig as my main system, so I'll be using it to replace my bulldozer HTPC.
I bought a i5 elitedesk g2 for $200 aud and it's a great computer. I recently installed a NVME drive with a PCIE adapter and was surprised to find HP had a 2022 firmware update on their site that enabled this to work properly.
As long as you don't stress it it'll probably be fine for years. The trick with cheap PSUs is to ignore the claimed power rating and just calculate the total from the 12V rail (the main brands use this as their power rating where the cheaper brands add all the rail outputs and use the total) then make sure you've got a 10% or more on top as an overhead. Most of the horror stories come from people either mistaking the power ratings due to the manufacturing rating difference or pushing their supplies expecting a 40 quid unit to be as robust as a main brand 80 quid unit. I myself have been using a boggo standard 600W Corsair bronze non-modular (so really basic) PSU for 9 years which has never been run to it's full 600W rated output over 2 platforms, 5 CPUs and 3 GPUs and when I open it to clean it (do not do this if you don't know about the dangers, the capacitors can hold a hell of a charge for a long time after it's been switched off and they need to be drained fully before servicing) it's still like new inside.
I saw a completed listing for a GTX 1080 for $80, someone got one heck of a deal. I just got a GTX 1080 for $175(which seems to be what they sell for on average lately this last week or so).
I helped a buddy setup up a similar Dell 9020 but we found a i7-4790K for a good price (~$100) and talked him into getting big CPU cooler. He's still using it and has no plans to upgrade.
I’m still running a 4790k at 4.8. I have a 1080p monitor and a 4K tv. It’s had a 970, 1080 and now 3070ti. Had it for about 7 years now in various guises. Still good enough for vr etc. plays everything well. Not so much in 4K but that’s no surprise. The 3070ti is almost certainly the last gpu upgrade.
One thing that stood out to me is the 1080 you have looks just like my RX 480 that was also from HP except with one fan. I first thought that was a Radeon card by the looks of it. Interesting how they reuse the same designs for both AMD and Nvidia.
I've got a laptop with a 1060 6GB that has worked well for me for many years. I think we tend to get caught up with the hype of new technology when there is a ton of old stuff that will meet our needs at a fraction of the cost of new stuff.
exactly, I have a similar build and until I start running higher end games, it works just fine, for most games and upgrading the CPU would mean building a whole new PC.
$500-$600 build could be very respectable if due diligence looking for deals. Would be a good series of videos from getting components to them build and testing. Always entertaining to watch those type of videos, IMO. Could break it up into a three parter or something, like a documentary on the entire process. Good video, although I may have gone a few generations newer on a few components.
i would strongly advise against using power supplies from brands you've never heard of for literally every system. that shit could actually blow up someday.
the 4th gen Intel CPUs and Ddr3 ram aren't going anywhere, they're good for playing older PC games and emulation as well as running servers on these chips. At some point I'll buy a few of these OEMs to use them in my dream LAN gaming room to play Call of Duty and Counter Strike with family and friends and by that time they'll be even cheaper.
I actually parked my ryzen 2600 for upgrades. Giving my CPU to my brother and taking his 2400g in this PC to make it a emulation PC. I am actually rocking a I5 2400 with a 1070 ti. I don't do heavy gaming so it's perfect only thing that I will change next year is get a 2699k or 3770k(they are still a bit pricey) and a new mobo for some reason this pc's 1 memory slot stopped working. I did try to see if there is a problem with the slot but there's no physical damage. Only thing I still need to test is to see if one of my CPU pins are bent. I am gonna run this PC for close to a year and it doesn't bother me as I don't play heavy games.
I have a similar setup with the i7 4790 on a all in one loop and 5700xt. I am getting all core 4 gigahertz and I was getting high on everything in Spider-Man
I actually suspect it's memory bandwidth that is bottle-necking this rig. Would be great, if you could re-test it (just a couple PC games) with 1600 MHz kit.
I have tested it, and in a lot of games, the 4790 will bottleneck a 1080 at 1080p even with 1600 M/T. Most games aren't super memory dependent. But even something like Far Cry 5, which is, the 4790 bottlenecks the 1080. Though it's worth saying that there's still a good uplift in perf over the 1070. So the bottleneck isn't too big of an issue.
@@smtek Yep, at 1440p, the 1080 would be fully utilized in just about anything save for titles like Valorant and CS Go where bottleneck are a constant. The 1080 Ti also becomes a pretty viable option at that point as well.
This is actually the PC that I upgraded away from. The 1% lows were terrible in some games, competitive FPS games. Cost me so many matches. But I going all these parts new in 2016. At 300 this would be excellent. I will say it's good but not good enough to say, run a AAA game and discord voice call while watching a discord stream from a friend. This particular use case is common for my group of friends and it fill the physical memory.
Yeahhhh, competitive FPS (of the twitch-shooter variety, anyway) titles are a unique form of masochism. The kind of hardware you need, the superhuman reflexes, and the fact you'll still run CS:GO with PS1 settings to squeeze those last few frames out, lol. my reflexes are too crap to notice personally.
If you, or anybody else, is ever in this situation again, you could always go with a dual PC setup. You could use a build like this for your gaming and get a separate i3 or i5 for $30 to do everything else. If you wanted to stream your own gaming, you could use an HDMI splitter on the Optiplex 9020 and use a cheap $13 hdmti to usb capture on the cheaper PC. Linus Tech Tips demonstrated some paid software that allows you to use your mouse and keyboard across different computers of multi platform as if it were extended displays of the same computer. Before I could afford a computer that didn't tap out at 4G ram on the motherboard in the WinXP / Win8.1 era, I used at least two computers at one time for different tasks, but I did not have the luxury of that software. I had to use two sets of peripherals too.
On Your Power Supply Issue. I had a project a while back running multiple multiple monitors.... So I had 3 GPUs installed.. 'Power Supply Issue'... So I just added another 450w Power Supply (40$). Case was big enough ... just ran additional power right to card. Had No Issues. Ran for Years.
ive been wanting to do something similar to this but ive found a Mecer Proficient SFF packing a GBYTE Q87m motherboard with the i7 4790 on my local used market for under $90... will definitely be purchasing it. my plan is to do a case swap into a more modern micro atx tower... this will be my first 'gaming pc' ever. wish me luck, i hope all this goes well
I have a setup similar to that one, with a 4790 processor and a 6GB 1060 graphics card. Recently, I purchased a 1080. While I don't anticipate a significant performance leap due to the processor, I'm still hopeful for improved performance.
@@Cave_Monster Well there wasn't a big change between the 1060 and the 1080, I didn't notice a change until I got a 6700xt, it's true that there is a bottleneck but so far I could live with that, now I have a 5700x3d
haha dude this is cool, I was going to take one of these we got from my wife's work to make a server computer but why not make it a gaming pc for the living room at the same time? Super cool, thank you ser.
Yeah, the 4790 is going to bottleneck a 1080 in most anything newer at 1080 just due to IPC limitations. Still, it's a going to give a decent uplift over a 1070 despite the bottleneck, unlike a 1080 Ti where the perf difference is mostly pretty marginal. But at 1440p, it would be an option.
Despite it being a bottle neck I have to admit he still seems to be getting higher frame rates on Cyberpunk with a 4790 than I do with a 4790k and low profile gtx1650 (A much newer card than his 1080.) I mostly manage in the 50s on medium @ 1080p, so there does seem to be room to improve with set ups like these, and I thought I'd gone as powerful as I could with my machine, although I don't know if the fps increase is worth my buying the older GPU and adding a new octopus of wires with a new power supply to support it when AAA games are starting to demand more CPU now.
@@TheRealAlpha2 The 1650 isn't much newer than a 1080, it's only one generation newer. Regardless, the 1080 is a substantially better card than a 1650. You're comparing an upper tier card from the previous generation to an entry level card from the next. Even the 1060 6GB is about 25% faster. The 1080 is roughly twice as fast, so you have a lot more room to upgrade the GPU. A 1660 Super or Ti would be about on par with a 1070 and would be a nice pairing for a 4th Gen i7, and you make it sound like you have an OptiPlex, if so... you wouldn't really need to upgrade the power supply for either of those. You just need a dual SATA to PCIe adapter like he showed in the video. You'll still be well under the 290 watt rating of the power supply that comes in these.
@@TheGameBench indeed, and it's worth noting (optiplex and Thinkcenter owner here) that low-profile cards are slower than their full-size counterparts of the exact same chip. You do pay a price for small size.
Ive got a similar era precision t1650, only difference is the front of the case, and its got a xeon, but, it will take a standard 24 pin psu, so no adapters needed, I popped my old corsair tx650 in and currently have a 1060 in it, but when I first got it it had my old r9 285 in it.
I just picked up an Optiplex 7010 on the side of the road in a garbage pile. i7, 12 gig of ram, noname video card, and no drive sleds. Had to remove the motherboard to get a replacement powersupply in as all I had was a 1k watt and that black lever at the top of the case was in the way. Once MB was out it slid right in. Luckily this MB has a standard ATX powersupply connector so didn't need the adaptor. Installed an old r390 video card, 3D printed the HD sleds, old 1.5T HD. Windows 10 install even took the old Win8 product key on the case. My new streaming system running 4 webcams, usb mic, 2 usb video encoders, plenty of plugins and scripts. Total cost= $0.
Great video, u @eta prime inspired me to get a i7 4790 9020MT optiplex and make it as my 2nd pc for the kid Using most parts like u but a 1650 OC GPU on the stock psu All in all a great build
I BASICALLY HAVE THIS PC I chose the 4790 after a week of looking for the best price to performance And I settled for a 1070 because there wasn't a 1080 near me I love the performance I get with this
@Silas2556 Of course, no doubt about it. There are Budget TH-cam channels that are in a cave slumbering and will wake up when you can build a gaming PC that is the same as the Xbox One S for less than $300.
Great video, Love to see old components being reused. I prefer a HP ProDesk 400 G1. It has better gpu clearance, no hdd bracket, and it has basically the same components.
HP tends to be full of propietary connectors on their motherboards. Dell mostly uses standard ones except for sometimes the 8 pin mobo power instead of the 20/24 pin.
Ths looks amazing. Hopefully prices stay like the same for a month or so and I will definitely be following this step by step. Been wanting a decent gaming desktop that wont break my bank
@@thatboipaipai1890 it's not compatible with ETA build. the second gen Ryzen CPUs perform better than Intel equivalent, a second or third gen Ryzen 5 processor is a solid choice for which you need to buy a B series socket AM4 motherboard, the intel 10th gen I5 10400 is also a solid choice for which you'll need a socket LGA 1200 motherborad preferably a b560. these parts are now cheaper and you can buy them new for cheap specially from local stores. these CPUs will not even bottleneck an RTX 3080 and a GTX 1080 will be perfectly utilized to 100% in all games with these CPUs, 16GB ddr4 3200MHz ram is now the minimum required for a smooth gaming experience.
@@thatboipaipai1890 soon enough a lot of OEM machines with 8th and 9th gen intel processors or Ryzen processors will flood the market as companies renew their equipments it'll be a heaven for budget gamers because these old dell/hp machine will become even cheaper.
Do you think a Xeon E3-1271 v3 (has a higher single core score on Passmark than the i7-4790) and a GTX 980 would give similar emulation results? Not too worried about it having less VRAM because its mainly gonna be a 4K emulation machine.
my one and only pc is an optiplex with an old 4th gen i5 and a 1060 6gb, it obviously can't run most new games very well but its honestly an absolute workhorse for how little money it cost me, and ive had it since late 2018 so id say its got pretty solid longevity
I got an identical Optiplex to use as an HTPC but ended up having to replace the motherboard and power supply so I’m not sure how much it was worth it.
It's always the risk of buying used. I work IT and I keep an eye out for any old towers that are getting tossed. I always end up passing on them because it's manufacturing which isn't a nice environment for electronics...
In the case of the rig in the video, the CPU+RAM+HDD alone would be worth the price. Personally I'd probably just pull those from this rig to begin with, because I hate Dell's proprietary cases/motherboards.
Surprised to see hardware that we would have only seen in our wildest dreams, cost less than a console. Things can really change within a couple of years.
It's crazy how new AAA gaming is still possible on such old hardware, if you play at 1080p that is.
There is no sane reason yo force 4k or 120hz.
Go 1080p/60 and you are fine with quite inexpensive hardware.
@@mystechry
Depends on the game tho.
From what I've noticed. Unreal Engine based games is VRAM thirsty. Even on 1080p low setting, they'll eat up all the available video memories. Yet still suffering from texture load issues.
@@fajaradi1223 Sure, there are always special cases where you might need more power.
I am simply happy, that I can play almost any game now on a low power handheld device at 800p 30/60fps.
It's great times for those who don't need too much quality.
Actually it's also great times for those, who want max quality ;)
even 1440p should be possible in some games and with not "ultra" settings.
@@mystechry only genre I can think of that almost requires 4k is simulators and mainly then to see instrument/gauge clusters (lookin at you, ETS/ATS and DCS). otherwise? yeah.
11:36 Not sure if anyone mentioned this already, but the i7-4790 was released in 2014, definitely NOT in 2017. Thanks for another great video. Keep up the good work, ETA Prime!
Absolute beast for 2014.
yup, its a intel 4th gen lmaoo
He also said the cpu is holding the gpu back at higher settings… is he mixing them up?
@@JosueHernandez-nu5cp No, wdym the 1080 gets bottle necked by the 4790
@@YoungMinistry351 sorry, I misheard him
I just have to say how much I love the new intro music. It's so soothing and satisfying
For a few months back in 2020 I did this exact thing with several Optiplexes and then flipped them. I made a little money on each one, too. I couldn't get a 1080 for cheap at that time, but RX 480s and a couple 1060s found their way into the systems. Wish I could start doing that again.
tk bro. i use a opti w/4770 and 1060. never let me down, still satisfies.
Where did you sell it?
Why can't you?
@@limemason money
@@GunmetalSnail get ya money up, not ya funny up
My first gaming pc was a Dell XPS with an i7-6700 and i put a gtx 1060 in there. I was so happy that it can run most of the games i wanted to play for so cheap too!
Love you videos. I follow at lot of "tech deals" channels that constantly keep telling people that they need to upgrade every two years to have a decent gaming experience. it's annoying especially for people that don't have the money to buy expensive parts for a PC.
Two years? Whoever says that deserves a little Unsubscribe I reckon
@@MrDrewseph yeah. He used to give a lot of good budget builds. But now he's just like " An 8 core cpu is not worth it". A 10900k is obsolete you need to change." So annoying. I did unsubscribed.
Imagine upgrading more often than every 5 years
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@@juanrubio6132 whis the channel?
@@flameshana9 I'm never upgrading. I'm already playing in 4k. 1440p and 2160p is the limit. Buy a new GPU it will be the same thing, upgrade for nothing. Anything higher you have no choice but to upscale.
I'm lucky enough to have a pretty powerful and modern PC, but like a lot of folks I very much prefer watching builds that have a smaller budget, are a bit lower spec and often have used parts. I think it's partly because my very first PC build was done on a budget with used parts, and I have fond memories of that machine because of what it taught me and the joy that came with it. But also it's just much more interesting - you have to use your head a bit more putting together a system on a budget, and there's generally more problem-solving to be done especially with modifying things like an Optiplex, but it can be so much more satisfying in the end. A few years ago I upgraded an SFF Optiplex with a GTX 1050 and SSD for my friend to use 'temporarily' after their gaming PC died. Worked so well they were using it right up until they upgraded this year 😅
DO NOT BUY SUCH POWER SUPPLIES. They're fine for low-power systems, but for a high-end system like this one, a quality PSU is the most important component. Not only is it going to run more efficiently and be quieter, but because of the design of these units, you will run into constant shut-downs or even worse, damage your CPU, motherboard or graphics card. Spending $30-40 more for a quality, reputable unit, which will last longer and run better is a no-brainer.
Aresgame is a legit company, tho later in time it 100% makes sense to upgrade
@@denkrblx437 No, they're not. They lie about their efficiency ratings and generally use low quality components. The most important thing when picking out a PSU for a high power graphics card is transient response and it's terrible on pretty much all lower price power supplies, so you HAVE to get a good one from the get-go.
@@miktheveg well i mean they cant have super high quality components for the price. a cheap psu like aresgame is okay if you use it for a few months maybe a 1-2 years.
@@denkrblx437 Which is why you shouldn't even buy it in the first place. A Super Flower Legion costs $57 and a Phanteks AMP is 70, it makes absolutely no sense to buy a unit which you know will at best, fail and at worst, become a risk for your PC components just to penny pinch 20-30 bucks
I have this type of build. A refurbished Dell and a new graphics card. I suspected the stock psu was the reason for my frequent shutdowns. I didn't know it could damage my components tho. Time to upgrade.
The 4790 was released in Q2 of 2014. It's end cycle was 7/14/2017.
You can perform a fairly simple bios modification to this system that will allow you to boot from NVME storage. The 4x PCIe slot is an older generation than the 16x slot, and the 4x slot will bottleneck the NVME to about 1500 mb/s. It is still a fantastic upgrade that makes the system really snappy and improves load times. Do a web search to find the instructions.
Did run an nvme in my 4790k and it was a big boost, had to use an adapter,. Since the onboard was 2x and didn't work with the pci3 x4 drives.
Jumped to Ryzen about 4 years ago now.
If its just for games then no point. Standard Sata SSD will provide all that is needed response wise.
There is no real life difference between a good sata ssd and NVME. Well other than copying files all day of course.
@@ozmobozo start compiling modern programs... When you're touching thousands of files... It makes a huge difference. I mean it's a few seconds vs code to a minute most of the time, but when you're waiting it's huge. And when hard drives take a fraction of an hour, those days were painful.
@@aztracker1 Ah yes lacking the m.2 slot is the biggest bottleneck for "compiling a program" or something like "rendering a 4k video" on this kind of computers sorry my bad. I'll definitely use a PCI-e adapter to slap a Gen4 NVME drive next time before compiling modern programs on my decade old Dell optiplex.
the 4790 has been the goat of affordable gaming PCs
"Keeping cost as low as possible" 👍 Thank you, Prime. PCs for the proletariat.
I had a similar build with an i5 4670 and an inno3d 1080. Worked flawlessly for years, but my trusty quad core really showed its age with Elden Ring. It hovered around 45fps at any resolution and setting combo I threw at it. 9 year old i5 quad cores won't cut it anymore, and by the looks of it, even higher end i7s.
Luckily, I swapped over to a Ryzen 5 2600, and my performance went up to a decent level for a gtx 1080.
nothing wrong with the haswell i7's, they are still decent. got a 4770k in a budget system paired with a gtx1080 and cpu is only just the limit
I tried a combination of i5 4440 + GTX 1070 it was really good. Processor power went to the i7 by 8.56%. In addition to the old GEN PCI-E on the mother board + CPU bottleneck.
Great respect for the content you are making ETA. 4790 was released in Q2 2014. Expected Discontinuance was in 2017.
Thanks this video, especially for the idea with the 24 to 8 pin-adapter. I had an old optiplex at home, but didn't thought that it could be modified as simple as this...
I just did this build!! I had a left over OptiPlex from the office with same CPU and slapped my 2070 Super in it! Works great! Very tight fit for the GPU!!!
Still using my 9020 with GTX 1660 super in 2023. Perfect for people getting into pc gaming or on a budget. Don’t let the low specs fool you. I can stream whiling playing foreskin. FPS around 120 to 144.
the moment of feeling old when you see 1080 is a budget PC component
11:38 Actually, the 4790 was released in 2014. It was discontinued in 2017. Still extremely competitive and impressive.
It's trash bro much better CPUs today also you won't find this cpu anywhere
Picked up a 4790k off ebay for under 100 bucks for my current machine. If you're looking to stay inexpensive (which is the key word here) you can do a LOT worse.
Yep , he should have went for a 7700K as minimum or a i3 13100F
@@GwnMichael not come yet, 12100F you mean
@@TheRealAlpha2 yeah you got robbed you can get an r5 5500 for under a 100 bucks
Love when you do these budget builds! Great work as always, keep it up!
Great build there. Im always happy with the builds you show. I'm not all that picky either when it comes to gaming either. I'm happy with just 720p. I dont need all the 1080p or 4k, so all your builds work for something like i would build. I have built one of your builds before and it works great with retro gaming.
Keep up the great work and Content.
Videos like this are a great sanity check for people, like me, who spend a lot of time in tech-enthusiast communities. It's easy to get caught up in the hype about the latest and greatest, but you can still do quite well with very modest hardware.
In fact I would say that newer hardware loses value, gaming wise, with each new iteration--because the number of games out there today will always dwarf the number of new games made between today and the next new GPU. In other words, I can play just about every game ever made on my current hardware, probably 20 lifetimes worth of good games. The next new hardware upgrade will only allow me, at best, to play a few dozen more.
I probably wouldn't buy this rig, because I hate Dell's proprietary cases/motherboards, but the perf/dollar is amazing.
Love these budget builds!
The gtx 1080 is still a strong card. I had mine for 7 years before I upgraded in 2023 and never had any issues with it apart from a fan bearing but that's just because it was used for so long.
I have the same optiplex, minus the 16gb and the gpu. Wanted to buy a new gpu but anything above rtx 2060 bottlenecks so i'm planing on building a new system first.
Yep, that's right.
This was a great video! Do you think you might do a 2022 build guide on a mini-ATX mobo? I remember you did a video on an emulation PC build that I think was mini-ATX with a unique form factor case (that was vertical instead of horizontal). I enjoy the fun niche builds (even if they are a little more pricey than a budget build or just buying a Steam Deck).
All this but a B450+Ryzen CPU is near enough perfect! Happy gaming guys 🙂
So you suggest going the Ryzen route?
that's what I thought, too! An used X 370 or B450 AM4 motherboard and whatever Ryzen it comes with. Let it be a Ryzen 1400, 1600, 2600 ... that is more than enough to start with and to fire up a graphics card like a GTX 1070/ 1080/ 2070/ RX 5600/ 5700.
The upgrade path later on would be a Ryzen 3600/ 5600 up to a 5800 X3D if the board is compatible. You've got the DDR4 advantage, can combine it later with a RTX 3080 or something ... these are good times for used PC builds.
Ryzen 1000 and 2000 really struggle these days, I would go Intel or Ryzen 3000 at least
@@JPVolvo Honestly my 1700 doesn't struggle in any game besides Star Citizen (and, well, it's STAR CITIZEN, of course it does, lol), at least that I've tried.
@@JPVolvo on a low budget build compared to a 100 bucks Dell OEM PC with a Intel 4790?
That's not comparable.
Fax if I like a game playing at 720 isn’t a problem
I largely agree. My steam deck has been great for replaying some favorites. But I don't think I'd like 720 on a 27" screen. Works like a charm on the Deck's screen, though
Throughout this year I've been weighing between keeping my 4770 system or sell it and switch to AMD 3xxx. But over and over again reviews like this came up and put my decision on hold.
Worth noting that going from a 4790k w/ gtx 1080 to even a r5 3600 with nvme is a massive and noticable performance difference. When I did my Ryzen jump that's where I came from and to. The 3600 was a placeholder (now in my SO's computer) definitely worth it.
And still run to upgrade from there all the way to a 5800x3d or 5950X.
@@aztracker1 that's nice. My plan is to use my PC until early next year and switch to 5600G and then add a 6700 XT. My i7 still have a few cards in it's hands.
@@budiisnadi depending on the cost difference may want 5700g for the extra cores... Will give it a bit more lifespan.
I have noticed that some engines don't like to go above a certain FPS. The combination of something like a 1660 or a 1070 with this Haswell processor probably would have put it at its limit. The gtx 1080 really needs something like coffee lake six core or R5 3600 to really stretch its legs. Occasionally you see outliers like cyberpunk in this case really taking advantage of the GPU and not necessarily giving you a ton of FPS but definitely giving you good fidelity.
You will really notice CPU limitation when no matter what quality you set the system at the FPS is very similar
Hey ETA, could you put a frametiming graph in your gaming benchmarks too? Always helpful.
yeah I wished he would include a frametime graph.
I think watching people build (cheaper) game PCs has become my ASMR... 🙏
I am a fan from Germany. I have a built right now some quite similar settings. Started with a i5 4570 and a GTX 1660 ti, switched over to SFF builds and use right now a i7 6700 with a GTX 1650 and a R7 5700x with a RTX a2000. SFF is the way to go for me. I will try to get a SFF build with a rtx 4060 lp or with a rizer card and my R7... So I will go to put the A2000 in the i7 6700... I love all your videos and I definitely go all for the 1080p. I don't have any monitor with higher resolution yet (and only 60 hertz). In most cases I try to emulate My old games on my PC or phone.
I just started 15 months ago after 10 years of abstinence from PC gaming and your channel was the first I joined. Thank you 😊
4 kerne und 8 thread sind zu wenig in 2024.
I currently have a PC with a 1080 and a 6700K, but for the past few months several of the other components, such as motherboard and RAM have started exhibiting issues, so I will be sticking with my Steam Deck and XBox Series X for the bigger titles.
I will definitely keep my 1080 though, since if I find a cheap PC at some point, without a graphics card, it will come in really handy.
I have never had any issues pushing games up to 1440p60, at around medium settings, or going 1080p60 on high, and ever since getting the Steam Deck, where I play most everything on low at 540p40 for the best battery life, I don't actually see the reason to upgrade to a new PC.
540p at 40hz?! Oof...
Goddamn, you want your battery to last several days or what? 😂😂😂
@@Clos93 that's PS Vita resolution and some Nintendo Switch games on handheld mode. I bet it is more blurry on SD than on Vita or Switch because of screen size and screen res.
@@main_tak_becus6689Due to FSR, it isn't actually blurry. I also only run it at that res when using it as a handheld, and on games that are not too visually busy.
The vegetation in Horizon Zero Dawn looked horrible at 540p, so I ran that at 720p. but something like Metro Exodus looks amazing at 540p with FSR.
It even creates a bigger sense of dread, due to not always being able to see what things in the distance are, not unlike horror titles from the PS2 era.
I recently bought one of these optiplexes souped up by Skytech USA LLC. Mine had an i7 4770, 1660 Super, 16gb ddr3, 256GBSSD+3TBHDD, WITH Kb&M. It cost 336 shipped before taxes. Not bad in my opinion. I've already got a 3800X 16GBddr4 rig as my main system, so I'll be using it to replace my bulldozer HTPC.
Someone’s getting ready for Bayonetta 3! Great videos as always!
4790 was released in 2014,end of life in 2017.But still its a great pc build.
and that was 5 years ago. So does this mean it's an undead processor? Happy Halloween ;)
Dude thinks EOL means anything😂
i have i7 4790, gtx 1080, 8gb ram and some 400$ psu i got for free lol
I bought a i5 elitedesk g2 for $200 aud and it's a great computer. I recently installed a NVME drive with a PCIE adapter and was surprised to find HP had a 2022 firmware update on their site that enabled this to work properly.
Ive got an Aresgame PSU in my custom PC too. Never had an issue and very cheap, great brand thus far.
As long as you don't stress it it'll probably be fine for years. The trick with cheap PSUs is to ignore the claimed power rating and just calculate the total from the 12V rail (the main brands use this as their power rating where the cheaper brands add all the rail outputs and use the total) then make sure you've got a 10% or more on top as an overhead. Most of the horror stories come from people either mistaking the power ratings due to the manufacturing rating difference or pushing their supplies expecting a 40 quid unit to be as robust as a main brand 80 quid unit. I myself have been using a boggo standard 600W Corsair bronze non-modular (so really basic) PSU for 9 years which has never been run to it's full 600W rated output over 2 platforms, 5 CPUs and 3 GPUs and when I open it to clean it (do not do this if you don't know about the dangers, the capacitors can hold a hell of a charge for a long time after it's been switched off and they need to be drained fully before servicing) it's still like new inside.
I got a used PC recently as well for $575. GTX 1080 TI, I7 8700, Crucial 1 TB drive, 630 watt PSU, and water cooled.
The GTX 1080 TI nice with rasterization performance slightly better than the RTX 2070 in some games.
I saw a completed listing for a GTX 1080 for $80, someone got one heck of a deal. I just got a GTX 1080 for $175(which seems to be what they sell for on average lately this last week or so).
I've been rocking my GTX 1080 since the release of Battlefield 1. Hasn't treated me bad so far.
I helped a buddy setup up a similar Dell 9020 but we found a i7-4790K for a good price (~$100) and talked him into getting big CPU cooler. He's still using it and has no plans to upgrade.
I’m still running a 4790k at 4.8. I have a 1080p monitor and a 4K tv. It’s had a 970, 1080 and now 3070ti. Had it for about 7 years now in various guises. Still good enough for vr etc. plays everything well. Not so much in 4K but that’s no surprise. The 3070ti is almost certainly the last gpu upgrade.
One thing that stood out to me is the 1080 you have looks just like my RX 480 that was also from HP except with one fan. I first thought that was a Radeon card by the looks of it. Interesting how they reuse the same designs for both AMD and Nvidia.
Hp coolers are gonna look like hp coolers...
Perfect theme of the video.
When a handheld plays better than some big ol juggernaut.
That concept still fs me up. Quite a time to be Alive!
I've got a laptop with a 1060 6GB that has worked well for me for many years. I think we tend to get caught up with the hype of new technology when there is a ton of old stuff that will meet our needs at a fraction of the cost of new stuff.
exactly, I have a similar build and until I start running higher end games, it works just fine, for most games and upgrading the CPU would mean building a whole new PC.
$500-$600 build could be very respectable if due diligence looking for deals. Would be a good series of videos from getting components to them build and testing. Always entertaining to watch those type of videos, IMO. Could break it up into a three parter or something, like a documentary on the entire process. Good video, although I may have gone a few generations newer on a few components.
i would strongly advise against using power supplies from brands you've never heard of for literally every system. that shit could actually blow up someday.
Perfect timing! I was shopping gpu's for a new to me Optiplex. I have the sff, so I'll have to go with an LP 1650 or rx6400.
Enjoy these budget build videos. Learn something new every time.
11:38 The 4790 was released in 2014, not 2017
Excellent video! Please continue with budget pc build videos
the 4th gen Intel CPUs and Ddr3 ram aren't going anywhere, they're good for playing older PC games and emulation as well as running servers on these chips. At some point I'll buy a few of these OEMs to use them in my dream LAN gaming room to play Call of Duty and Counter Strike with family and friends and by that time they'll be even cheaper.
My last two builds have used that brand power supply, both optiplexes, and have worked great. GTX 970s are good gpu too.
I love videos like this that show me how to get a AAA gaming pc for inexpensive
14:28 Damn, you got a death wish for Maneki-Nekos. What did Maneki-Nekos ever do to you, man? They're just ceramic cats!
I have a 10400F/3070 but I love seeing these types of builds! Awesome video!
I actually parked my ryzen 2600 for upgrades. Giving my CPU to my brother and taking his 2400g in this PC to make it a emulation PC. I am actually rocking a I5 2400 with a 1070 ti. I don't do heavy gaming so it's perfect only thing that I will change next year is get a 2699k or 3770k(they are still a bit pricey) and a new mobo for some reason this pc's 1 memory slot stopped working. I did try to see if there is a problem with the slot but there's no physical damage. Only thing I still need to test is to see if one of my CPU pins are bent. I am gonna run this PC for close to a year and it doesn't bother me as I don't play heavy games.
I'm currently building this exact pc, have to use my 1660 TI until I can buy a better card. Love the videos!
I have a similar setup with the i7 4790 on a all in one loop and 5700xt. I am getting all core 4 gigahertz and I was getting high on everything in Spider-Man
I actually suspect it's memory bandwidth that is bottle-necking this rig. Would be great, if you could re-test it (just a couple PC games) with 1600 MHz kit.
1333 to 1600 would not make a huge difference, 1866 or 2133 with good timings would perform very close to ddr4
Don't think the the difference would be that big, but a 1080 is a little bit overkill for this PC so the CPU is a "bottleneck" anyway.
I have tested it, and in a lot of games, the 4790 will bottleneck a 1080 at 1080p even with 1600 M/T. Most games aren't super memory dependent. But even something like Far Cry 5, which is, the 4790 bottlenecks the 1080. Though it's worth saying that there's still a good uplift in perf over the 1070. So the bottleneck isn't too big of an issue.
@@TheGameBench It may still good for 1440p and 4k gaming tho
@@smtek Yep, at 1440p, the 1080 would be fully utilized in just about anything save for titles like Valorant and CS Go where bottleneck are a constant. The 1080 Ti also becomes a pretty viable option at that point as well.
That graphics card looks stunning! Kinda Sega Genesis/Mega Drive style
This is actually the PC that I upgraded away from. The 1% lows were terrible in some games, competitive FPS games. Cost me so many matches. But I going all these parts new in 2016. At 300 this would be excellent. I will say it's good but not good enough to say, run a AAA game and discord voice call while watching a discord stream from a friend. This particular use case is common for my group of friends and it fill the physical memory.
Yeahhhh, competitive FPS (of the twitch-shooter variety, anyway) titles are a unique form of masochism. The kind of hardware you need, the superhuman reflexes, and the fact you'll still run CS:GO with PS1 settings to squeeze those last few frames out, lol.
my reflexes are too crap to notice personally.
If you, or anybody else, is ever in this situation again, you could always go with a dual PC setup. You could use a build like this for your gaming and get a separate i3 or i5 for $30 to do everything else. If you wanted to stream your own gaming, you could use an HDMI splitter on the Optiplex 9020 and use a cheap $13 hdmti to usb capture on the cheaper PC. Linus Tech Tips demonstrated some paid software that allows you to use your mouse and keyboard across different computers of multi platform as if it were extended displays of the same computer.
Before I could afford a computer that didn't tap out at 4G ram on the motherboard in the WinXP / Win8.1 era, I used at least two computers at one time for different tasks, but I did not have the luxury of that software. I had to use two sets of peripherals too.
Never use sata to pci power unless you want a campfire.
On Your Power Supply Issue. I had a project a while back running multiple multiple monitors.... So I had 3 GPUs installed.. 'Power Supply Issue'... So I just added another 450w Power Supply (40$). Case was big enough ... just ran additional power right to card. Had No Issues. Ran for Years.
Crazy that less than a year ago I sold my zotac 1080 for $350 cause the market was still crazy
Cant say i like how much that live wallpaper is utilizing the GPU
ive been wanting to do something similar to this but ive found a Mecer Proficient SFF packing a GBYTE Q87m motherboard with the i7 4790 on my local used market for under $90... will definitely be purchasing it. my plan is to do a case swap into a more modern micro atx tower... this will be my first 'gaming pc' ever. wish me luck, i hope all this goes well
How'd it go?
I have a setup similar to that one, with a 4790 processor and a 6GB 1060 graphics card. Recently, I purchased a 1080. While I don't anticipate a significant performance leap due to the processor, I'm still hopeful for improved performance.
How was it?
@@Cave_Monster Well there wasn't a big change between the 1060 and the 1080, I didn't notice a change until I got a 6700xt, it's true that there is a bottleneck but so far I could live with that, now I have a 5700x3d
haha dude this is cool, I was going to take one of these we got from my wife's work to make a server computer but why not make it a gaming pc for the living room at the same time? Super cool, thank you ser.
Yeah, the 4790 is going to bottleneck a 1080 in most anything newer at 1080 just due to IPC limitations. Still, it's a going to give a decent uplift over a 1070 despite the bottleneck, unlike a 1080 Ti where the perf difference is mostly pretty marginal. But at 1440p, it would be an option.
Despite it being a bottle neck I have to admit he still seems to be getting higher frame rates on Cyberpunk with a 4790 than I do with a 4790k and low profile gtx1650 (A much newer card than his 1080.) I mostly manage in the 50s on medium @ 1080p, so there does seem to be room to improve with set ups like these, and I thought I'd gone as powerful as I could with my machine, although I don't know if the fps increase is worth my buying the older GPU and adding a new octopus of wires with a new power supply to support it when AAA games are starting to demand more CPU now.
@@TheRealAlpha2 The 1650 isn't much newer than a 1080, it's only one generation newer. Regardless, the 1080 is a substantially better card than a 1650. You're comparing an upper tier card from the previous generation to an entry level card from the next. Even the 1060 6GB is about 25% faster. The 1080 is roughly twice as fast, so you have a lot more room to upgrade the GPU. A 1660 Super or Ti would be about on par with a 1070 and would be a nice pairing for a 4th Gen i7, and you make it sound like you have an OptiPlex, if so... you wouldn't really need to upgrade the power supply for either of those. You just need a dual SATA to PCIe adapter like he showed in the video. You'll still be well under the 290 watt rating of the power supply that comes in these.
@@TheGameBench indeed, and it's worth noting (optiplex and Thinkcenter owner here) that low-profile cards are slower than their full-size counterparts of the exact same chip. You do pay a price for small size.
1440p w/ FSR
@@TheGameBench So would you reccomend the 1660 over the 1080 for this build?
Ive got a similar era precision t1650, only difference is the front of the case, and its got a xeon, but, it will take a standard 24 pin psu, so no adapters needed, I popped my old corsair tx650 in and currently have a 1060 in it, but when I first got it it had my old r9 285 in it.
I just picked up an Optiplex 7010 on the side of the road in a garbage pile. i7, 12 gig of ram, noname video card, and no drive sleds. Had to remove the motherboard to get a replacement powersupply in as all I had was a 1k watt and that black lever at the top of the case was in the way. Once MB was out it slid right in. Luckily this MB has a standard ATX powersupply connector so didn't need the adaptor. Installed an old r390 video card, 3D printed the HD sleds, old 1.5T HD. Windows 10 install even took the old Win8 product key on the case. My new streaming system running 4 webcams, usb mic, 2 usb video encoders, plenty of plugins and scripts. Total cost= $0.
Dell Optiplexes are still great on a budget, at least the older ones. I'm more surprised you found a GTX 1080 that actually fit in there.
As someone who still pushes a PC with a 4790K this video made my heart swell with pride.
Great video, u @eta prime inspired me to get a i7 4790 9020MT optiplex and make it as my 2nd pc for the kid
Using most parts like u but a 1650 OC GPU on the stock psu
All in all a great build
i remember being bored and benchmarking some different optiplex configurations around the office and this beating out at the time.
Love the Opti builds, good job
I BASICALLY HAVE THIS PC
I chose the 4790 after a week of looking for the best price to performance
And I settled for a 1070 because there wasn't a 1080 near me
I love the performance I get with this
Sounds pretty balanced mate.
Do more budget options when building a PC.
No budget PC can compare up to the Xbox Series S at the moment.
@Silas2556 Of course, no doubt about it. There are Budget TH-cam channels that are in a cave slumbering and will wake up when you can build a gaming PC that is the same as the Xbox One S for less than $300.
Great video, Love to see old components being reused. I prefer a HP ProDesk 400 G1. It has better gpu clearance, no hdd bracket, and it has basically the same components.
HP tends to be full of propietary connectors on their motherboards. Dell mostly uses standard ones except for sometimes the 8 pin mobo power instead of the 20/24 pin.
Can the rear I/O shield be removed on your case? I like to build sleepers, and am now interested in that model.
@@zeroturn7091 yes it can be removed, I once transferred all the components to a different pc case.
Ths looks amazing. Hopefully prices stay like the same for a month or so and I will definitely be following this step by step. Been wanting a decent gaming desktop that wont break my bank
go for 8th gen i5 and above or second gen ryzen and above they offer better performance.
Will it be compatible with the build ETA did ? Or do i have to change something, and which one of the two you recommended is the best out of two.
@@thatboipaipai1890 it's not compatible with ETA build. the second gen Ryzen CPUs perform better than Intel equivalent, a second or third gen Ryzen 5 processor is a solid choice for which you need to buy a B series socket AM4 motherboard, the intel 10th gen I5 10400 is also a solid choice for which you'll need a socket LGA 1200 motherborad preferably a b560. these parts are now cheaper and you can buy them new for cheap specially from local stores. these CPUs will not even bottleneck an RTX 3080 and a GTX 1080 will be perfectly utilized to 100% in all games with these CPUs, 16GB ddr4 3200MHz ram is now the minimum required for a smooth gaming experience.
@@thatboipaipai1890 soon enough a lot of OEM machines with 8th and 9th gen intel processors or Ryzen processors will flood the market as companies renew their equipments it'll be a heaven for budget gamers because these old dell/hp machine will become even cheaper.
@@Fernando-Rodriguez so should i wait for that or just buy what you told me ?
Could you make another video on a budget 1080p GPU ? Great video in all ways.
Thank you for the video, amazing what can run RPCS3! gotta start keeping an eye out for a cheap 1080!
Do you think a Xeon E3-1271 v3 (has a higher single core score on Passmark than the i7-4790) and a GTX 980 would give similar emulation results? Not too worried about it having less VRAM because its mainly gonna be a 4K emulation machine.
Did you ever end up testing it? If so how did it go?
The 4790 was released in 2014, not 2017. It's a 4th gen i7 CPU.
11:34 Wow He doesn't know about CPU and he needs to do more research. "Facepalm🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂"
my one and only pc is an optiplex with an old 4th gen i5 and a 1060 6gb, it obviously can't run most new games very well but its honestly an absolute workhorse for how little money it cost me, and ive had it since late 2018 so id say its got pretty solid longevity
Killer Vid! Keep it up, I like sticking to AMD parts personally, Killer Setup
Nice clean cable job !
11:37 correction the i7 4790 is a 2014 chip
Wow es impresionante el rendimiento con tan poco presupuesto
10:39 that clearly shows 12gb dd3 ram?? Am i missing something???
I got an identical Optiplex to use as an HTPC but ended up having to replace the motherboard and power supply so I’m not sure how much it was worth it.
It's always the risk of buying used. I work IT and I keep an eye out for any old towers that are getting tossed. I always end up passing on them because it's manufacturing which isn't a nice environment for electronics...
@@majinshinsa
Yeah ...
Maybe it was running a CNC milling machine on a workshop.
In the case of the rig in the video, the CPU+RAM+HDD alone would be worth the price. Personally I'd probably just pull those from this rig to begin with, because I hate Dell's proprietary cases/motherboards.
3:16 I wouldn't. Those are dangerous and can lead to fires.
Like always great show. Thanks.
Surprised to see hardware that we would have only seen in our wildest dreams, cost less than a console. Things can really change within a couple of years.