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I CRASHED My BRAND NEW Restored '99 Honda Z50R (3 Times!) | 108cc Big Bore vs. Lifan 125cc
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2020
- We just finished building my 1999 Honda Z50R resto-mod project, and I crashed it THREE TIMES on the first day of riding it. The 108cc big bore kit with the V2 race head is no joke for this 50cc Honda engine. We didn't replace the tires during this Honda mini bike restoration, which I believe is why I laid the bike down so many times- the tire was slick in the middle, and still had tread on the sides, which made high speed turns very squirrelly. Definitely should've changed the tires before sending it.
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Welcome to cars and cameras where you can watch John bin it into some bushes ,great episode guy’s love those lil bikes 👍👍
On this episode of BoTtOM gEAr...
It's not the first Bush he killed. RIP Jeb.
@@jeffconn722 You're a longtime fan if you remember Jeb.
RIP Jeb...
I miss the Widow though!!
Put a tube in that tire, it'll be fine lol. Get Jon some training wheels and put the 50cc kit back in it. True happiness. So many go through life and never experience true bliss. They all think it's a $500k house and 2 new cars. All it really takes is an old minibike.
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Amen, I have had the 550K+ house in a tropical paradise and I am happier now out in the woods tinkerin with mini bikes.
...till the cops come
@@williamstamper442 then you know it's a party!
All that and it was only half a bottle of gas 👌
Energy density. That's why gas still rules for now anyways.
Spoiler
I had an 1984 Z50r as a kid. GREAT little bike. If memory serves me right, it has a 150 Lbs max rider weight, any more then that and the 3 bolts that hold the rim to the hub on the rear become loose. Brings back a lot of good memories. Great work guys! Love the content.
"There's good days in racing and there's bad days in racing. Ricky Bobby just had himself a bad day" - TN
I’m so moved
There is no power band for a 4 strike 😂😂but loved the build
hey ike. use that scream u did as a meme sound effect or just make it a meme
Stroke
actually 14th place, you moved ONE TOO MANY strips down, CHECK THE TIMES
Seeing how John crashes everything I say we start calling him "Crash".
“Crash Bandikart”
@@yopappy6599 number 1 comment right here lol
Johnny Crash ???
John: "Ike, don't you think we should replace that bad wheel, tube and tire on your bike?"
Ike: "Naw...it'l be fine."
Wheel destroys itself taking the tire, tube and chain with it.
Stuff happens.
That tire & rim was for testing purposes only... Test completed 😂😂
Ike drinking that orange gatorade was hilarious looks like he belongs on a commercial
I thought he picked up the bottle of gas
He was just making a new gas tank.
Hey John you can put a 4 speed transmission in that case for the z50r if you want , it's been done before
Yep. I've got a xr50 with the 4 speed from a Honda 110 3 wheeler and an 80 big bore. Does about 40 mph.
The AHP transmission is a popular choice
The carsandcameras tradition: John wreaks it Ike breaks it but all in all ya just gotta send it.
Remember the subie cart(flash back to ike flipping goin up the hill)
Ok Larry
William Stamper I was about to say that 😂
John still needs to Learn how to kick over a bike lol its not a Harley
It's hilarious!!!!! Sure is strange haha😂😂
Yeah and he never puts his foot down on a 30 lb bike he just lets it fall over lmao
John needs to realize ya don't need to hit the gear shift that hard
@@hotrodroadking1031 lmao my brother and i laughed at that also. 10yrs or so on utube and the guys skill sets are still from day 1
He also needs to learn the basics of driving. The guy can’t drive to save his life.
I see you sneaking your 1:13 above Chris's 1:12, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
house rules
Looked at the comments and thought i was the only one who noticed till i saw this comment!
Didnt Ike even say in between Chris's time and the monster moto 228?
14th Place. :(
Sorry John but... Isaac make sure he wares that helmet all day lol 😆
Tip. The key is not for holding the flywheel only there for guiding it in the right oosition for the ignitintiming. The flywheel is held i place by the taper on the axel/hole in the wheel. If it is not a close to perfect match you can torque it till you get blue it whont stay put nomattterwhat. The trick is to use valve grinding paste on the taper and grind to a better fit. If it is a good fit u will not even need a key.
I am really appreciating these longer video
LMFAO , ur gonna give me the brake right . Then waits for him to take it outta gear and stand up , and gone . That was awsome .
That was a great video ,enjoyed it very much ,keep up the great work we appreciate it .Love the racing between you guys it’s really fun to watch God bless
LMFAO at the look on John"s face for the 3 days of the helmet of shame...
Had a 86 z50 when I was a kid. Fun . Cool builds. Much respect from Washington NC
When you get both of them fully ready that will be a really good race
Man love those old bikes built many I took my 50 and add a taller gears from the 70 forget what years but u can swap alot between them and find the gear chart for them on the web I think I need to find one again and tinker had some much fun on the little bikes
Ike make sure you film John wearing that helmet for three days. LoL.
who else watched to the end? These guys motivate ma to keep my channel going!
Johns competitive side always gets him in the end 😂😂
You should bring back the diesel go kart
install a deutz air cooled 3 cylinder diesel engine and crank the injectors up for more power. The low end torque on that thing would rip you apart
Potatoes and Trucks it would also rip itself apart
@@dieselgeezer18 a deutz diesel by itself would make plenty of power as is
@@hopingforthebest1.9 the diesel i am talking about makes ONLY 50hp. It is heavily detuned from the factory for extreme reliability and very long working time. Its 3,000cc. But because its a 3 cylinder its not that big. Crank the injectors up, maybe install a turbo and you got a true beast rolling coal
@@dieselgeezer18 I'm interested! Do you know what the name is
I remember a friend of mine got a Honda 50 for christmas back in the late 60's or early 70's we had a blast on that little bike.
In the early 80s a friend of mine got a Kawasaki jr 50cc 2 stroke for Christmas That little thing was crazy fast His dad sold it and got him a Honda DS 80 4 stroke We would have killed our selves on that jr 50 It would run out from under ya at quarter throttle lol We had a blast on the DS 80 though plenty of power for 2 8yr old 😁✌️
Love u guys near my age on this young person channel lol.
I had the first liquid cooled YZ-80 Yamaha in 1982
@@williamstamper442 Hell yeah brotha That's cool I had 2 yz 80s 85 & 87 models the 87 was a beast I had it sent off blue print balanced port polished bored 40 over The works Out of the whole it would out run any stock 125 & 250s I was in a car wreck and got 10k and blew every dime on bikes lol Good times ✌️
@@EJ-74 dad promised me a new dirt bike if i got straight A's sooo...
We walked into what was then Ruttman in Dearborn Hts mi in 1980.
There was a brand new 1980 air cooled for i think $750 (!!!) And the new water cooled with radiator and no fins...looked tiny. It was i think about $950.
Dad and i agreed the little radiator sold us.
Took it down in the mountains of eastern kentucky where our family is from...that liquid cooled 80 was outrunning 125s stock because i was only 11 and weighed about 101 with wet hair (lol i had hair back then, shaved bald head for over 30 years now).
Left the YZ totally stock and just ran it.
Its crazy that so many years later i have a blaster 200 engine on my bench right now that i keep procrastinating on. The quad has to move soon as its not mine. I made it run after a friend bought it (made me drive it to his house down plymouth road from the hood in Detroit west side) had a blown head gasket. I suspected leaky seals and lean, but mixed it 20:1 myself and blocked the oil pump. Went from 50 kicks to starting first kick...then had to do a TORS delete. Friend took it out first time on labor day 2020. He called me from the street and said it locked up and threw him off over the handlebars.
Sure enough he locked it up...the jug came off with piston in it. Wrist pin and a bunch of pieces were below with the con rod bent and twisted 90 degrees. Brutal.
I since got a hotrods lower end kit but now need to go install a new crank a d rod.
Kinda funny as i typed this he called asking if i made any progress. Guess what ill be doing tonight...
@@EJ-74 yep i gotta split this case and remember where all these gears go.
I got a press its just the idea of it all.
Im making mango hot wings first then ill be all over that YZ200...i didnt ask for it but its here in my lap so ill make it right
I can see Ike get a big grin as he pulls on John in that race at 9:41 lol
Loving the z50 content. Just recently picked up a 78 myself to match my same year ct70. There is so much more parts availability for the 50's compared to the 70's. The ct70 is getting a 140 swap and a bunch of custom parts but keeping the z50 mostly stock...at least for now. May bolt on the TB parts shorty exhaust like your running on these and a possible 88cc kit in the future. Looking forward to more Honda mini trail content.
Good luck with your minis! Hit us up if you ever need any help!
@TBolt USA thanks guys I’ve had your page saved for a while lol.
I havent done the 88 kit yet but i can tell you the 108 is awesome!
@Isaac it'll be fine I looked at the 88 because it’s a budget option at least when you just do just the piston and jug kit, it gets get pricy when you add the race head but you can use a stock 70 head for nearly the same results. You guys should look into using an xr75/ early xr80 swingarm. They would give you a +4 extension on the cheap and help with stability, which it looks like the 108 needs lol.
@@geeksgamesandgears2369 A bunch of guys do just the 88 kit to start and add on the head and/or stroker down the road.
Damm what a crash
Those Z50's are cool. had a couple. No big bore kit in my day but I was too big anyway.
You mean too fat to be a small pit bike? Im not familiar with them but they look fat and big for a mini
Ike says, "I don't see nothin'." So does that mean you see everything? Lol. Gotta love those double-negatives. Lol. You guys rock!
Is there not a more aggressive back tire you can get for the little 50 would definitely help you from slide out...
Man that take off sounded so cool go issac you got this bud
Super Duper! Loved it. Good fun.
Just an idea the Grand Prix track should be rated 2-wheel and 4-wheel. A 2-wheel and 4-wheel leaderboard
Damn John, we going to have to break out the training wheels again lol??? Y'all keep kicking ass man
Ike brother you do so much for the Channel you and your efforts are appreciated
Thanks
GET SOME TIRES!!! For all the bikes with trash tires lol, that would save you too.
And some non rusted trough rims.
Might help to be on dirt instead of foot long grass. They got a tractor and you could drag just about any junk around and it would scrub the ground to bare dirt.
Really though, you can get the Shinko clone of the og trail wings for like $25...a rim without a hole in It wouldn’t hurt either lol.
@@geeksgamesandgears2369 it's been bothering me the entire time haha
Tires matter when hp matches weight and it becomes fast and quick. You definitely are on track with that statement.
See what i did there?
those are great little motors. thats why the chinese has used it on almost every dirt bike shipped to america. That's also why they have all these big bore kits for the most reproduced motor ever. It's like the Chevy small block of small engines
Looks like fun glad you guys are okay
Still looks like Fun
Anyone else starting to notice Ike seems irritated with John?
Yup, theyll part ways eventually, which will suck, john is more the narrator / camera friendly type, Ike the actuall creator/brains. Need BOTH to be a success.
Jeff Kopis are you serious? The new HQ is that far from the old place?
Stop sending bad vibes GUYS #ITLLBEFINE
probably just tired
@@kevinkev1530 i agree...lets let them go with it and keep up content and not shoot it down
12:55 i dont need to tell you John what that sounded like...LoL
John has the best dismount, but Isaac's ride with the RC cart is probably the scarriest of all
Nah, it’s definitely John when the throttle got pinned on the 670cc Black Widow Death Kart
Just picked me up a 88' z50~ I dig it man 👍
That minibike looks great.
The C&C quote of the day is: "It's gonna be Tit for Tat, dude!" 👍
New pickup line: "Hi, my name is Tat. Do you have something for me?"
"You wanna shower?.. I mean... Not together..."
What unit said that? Was it a GDI or NOD?
@@tbthegr81 Haha, bet you are looking for the one guy who knows what you're talking about. They need to start working on Submersibles like a drill tank. Flame Tanks.. Something... Build me some reapers from Firestorm.
You should use Acetone to flush the tank. It absorbs the water and comes out when you dump it. Also cleans it and preps for the tank liner. Also instead of using putty on the outside just use a piece of masking tape and use Red Kote tank sealer. Then peel the tape off. Will be good as new.
Nice eject John! very nicely played sir the good old Fashion tuck an roll!. Reminds me of my motocross days 😂
12:00 i thought he was drinking the gas gatorade lol
I wish y’all still did go kart videos like y’all used too
Johnny Crash!! Wow, you guys have some fun.
Hey man don't feel bad about taking the engine apart, a pin got smashed in the bottom end of my yz250f so I just put it back together without it and it turns out that it was a passage for the oil, so it has to come apart for the third time😂
Got to keep you bikes hydrated.
looked like 2 preying mantis riding a couple of wheeled ants..love it..lol
Yall are awesome been watching for a while. Thanks for the entertainment! I want to go to the next rally (hoping that still happens) you guys are inspiring.
Fully sent today good stuff!
Johns face when ike mentioned the helmet 🤣🤣🤣
Aye guys love the vids keep up the good work
Sometimes finding your limits takes a few crashes but you guys promote good safety by showing us those limits. :) Wearing the right gear while you do that helps to reduce the risk of being injured and is a good lesson for us all. :) Keep doing what you are doing. :)
Awesome job brothers thanks for the family friendly vids love them
11:59 I thought Ike was drinking the gas 😂😂
I saw Ike drinking from the Gatorade bottle and was like "IKE, NO!"
True story...
Any of y'all from eastern ky knows the old Nehi peach pop looked like gasoline and i have a relative who turned one up once filled with gas. This happened in the 60s so there is that...
Keep up the good work brotheras
John finally looks like he's had some sleep and a trim up 😂😂
Those little bikes look like a lot of fun I need to get one
The little 50cc absolutely rips 😁
...at 108 cc's now...
Great video guys!!
Great video guys 👌🏼😎
The Z is a looker!!!
Definitely need a re-gear. Im running 17/29 gearing on my z with a race head 88 kit. Love it! Still doing wheelies in first gear and 50 mph in 3rd.
Heck ya guys going to be a epic battle
If you don't lay'er down, you're not pushing it! I'm sure a sprocket swap would wake up the top end and possibly tame the squirrelly handling on the turns. The throttle wouldn't be so snappy. Stay safe!
Love you guys
With the amount of your videos that I watch... I think I'd have a competitive time 😆
3:04 "this happens problems all the sudden again" makes sense to me :D
Love the content guys, keep up the good work!
Z50 for the win. Kool builds, update as necessary : )
I have an idea for you. A regular car wheel, lay it on its side. Weld a shaft 18", then weld a spindle that points to the sky. After you tape off the wheel you need to paint, set it on the spindle and spin it, then spray.
That bottle fuel tank takes me back i had a 80cc trail bike that i found in a scrap yard that had no tank so i used a bottle with a brake adjuster from my bmx in the lid that id sealed with areldite glue to stop it leakin duct taped to the bars with some fish tank tubeing as a fuel line lol i was only 13 at the time i put a mower tank on it after the bottle split lol i had that 80cc yamaha for ages in that state it was a propper franken bike but it cost me £15 and i rode the crap outa it for almost 2 years 🤘
Can John go without crashing anything! Horrible riding skills I swear
vincent p He does that to make Ike’s driving skills look better.
Great video guys I was laughing so hard when Isaac went and took the bike and started running with it to beat John so funny!!! 😂👍
glad to see yall put the gear on today. you should try wearing it all the time.you old guys can't be getting skinned up !!
When are you going to get some “I like Ike” Cars and Cameras swag?
So, that’s how you break (run) a new engine in. I’ve been doing it wrong🤣
He said EJECTO SEATO LMAO IM SO HIGH N IM SO DEAD LMAO
Lay off the leaf for awhile till you bring it back in
I will check tomorrow for it but i think i may have another wheel for ya IKE
Man I need to find myself a little bike like that. 👍 I also need to get on fixing up my Fiero Go Kart!
John I think you should take a chill pill My Man you seem impatient and uptight you def seem different maybe take a short vacation also stop saying Dawg 😑
Stop being a word nazi, its called freedom of speech
@@kevinkev1530 that's right freedom of speech which also means I have the right to voice my opinion as well.
@@perfectcell7995 everyone has a opinion an ur in title to urs,, but why would u feel the need to tell a grown man wht words he can an cant say out his mouth?
@@kevinkev1530 because he's a grown man and dawg is slang I used when I was a little kid and I can just feel the cringe coming off of Ike whenever he gets called that.
@@perfectcell7995 good to know your grown, so act like it, let people be thm selfs, u have no right to judge anyone on the way thy speak
You guys have really came a long way 👍
ATC 70 needs a t bolt engine now flat track racer style
Heck yeah
Hey all ... I got my Atc70 running and it did very good....
been waiting on this video
i had the SAME thing happen to me rebuilding a 99 rm250 bottom end. dont be scared to open it up!
Runs pretty good with that IV plugged in lol
Love these bikes
That big bore is crazy LOL
18:42 you put Ikes time in 13th place (1.13.75) but it was slower than the one that was below it (Chris Dingo 1.12.52) in 14th.
I'm surprised Isaac didn't catch that while it happened😂
Good ol high side lol