There has been a high level of negativity surrounding this camera announcement. Before commenting, please watch the video all the way through. I try my best to make positive, entertaining and educational camera content, while also encourage constructive feedback and discussion. Sadly, I have noticed a high amount of non-constructive feedback, hateful, or rude comments which is not the type of community I aim to foster. If you feel the need to make one of these comments, please consider that: - Yes this camera has flaws which most creators (including myself) mentioned. - Yes this was a "press event", which I fully disclosed. - This is not a review, it's an overview / feature video, which I mentioned. - If this camera makes you mad, it's probably not a camera for you. - If this video makes you mad, this probably isn't a channel for you. - There are creators, including myself who love specific aspects of this camera. - It's okay to disagree, but consider doing so in a respectful and constructive manner. Beyond that, several of my friends and fellow creators have made great follow up videos on the state of the S9 and camera TH-cam that I recommend you watch.
I was gonna buy the Panasonic S9 when I heard rumors about the release, then I saw all the youtubers "reviewing" the camera and I said: "no, thank you."
Panasonic's reformed marketing strategy (paying Sony users to switch to Lumix and these Japan events) to fluff their brand is hitting all kinds of wrong. They went from being pretty quiet in the influencer space to full throttle and it hasn't gone unoticed.
No shutter, no evf, not remotely ergonomic for heavy FF lenses. No thanks. Also coming in ridiculous colors, I assume to try and drag in the beginner crowd, and then they price it totally out of a beginner friendly budget. I mean 1500 for a stripped down camera is insane. 1-200$ more get the Fuji XT5 ffs.....
If I was still on my Lumix GX85 I'd be all over this. Fits my style (I never used the EVF on my GX85). But I switched to Sony with my A7IV, and I definitely prefer the E Mount ecosystem to the L Mount.
I don't think non-flagships are targeting perfection. This is a budget S5II, that statement in itself means cost reduction, and cost reduction means less features. The features they removed are parallel to the price reduction, and to me, they are all good decisions.
A video shot on Panasonic has never disappointed me! It's unbelievable that a full-frame sensor (35.6 x 23.8 mm) can fit into a camera with a compact body 📷 ...and I can't believe it, my idol is in Japan. I hope to meet you in person one day!👏
It's called marketing, the manufacturer paid for a bunch of TH-camrs to go to Japan and review the camera. In my opinion the TH-camrs should disclose the benefit they are receiving. Reviews where the reviewer receives a benefit will always be different. Even loaner cameras, loaner cameras to major press like PC Mag won't have an influence but to an individual TH-camr it will as they will won't to keep the flow of loaner cameras coming etc. Free trips is another level of influence.
What kills it for me is the lack of either a super bright 2600+ nit screen, or an evf. I need one or the other for shooting out in bright daylight. I often use the evf on my gx85 just to get the framing right in bright daylight. All the other compromises I can live with, but I need the ability to see what I'm doing in bright daylight.
How can you say this camera is close to perfect? PetaPixel was pretty clear of it obvious flaws. This video sounds like you are reviewing a whole different camera.
I talked to almost everyone who went on this trip including Chris. It was pretty obvious to me the direction most people were going to take their videos, and while I did mention all of the same flaws at multiple points throughout my video; I actively chose not make my content overly negative, and simply enjoy my time shooting with the camera. So while this camera might not be for you, or for pro shooters, it definitely has some features that appeal to the audience it's made for.
@@AnthonyGugliotta agreed, i was getting towards the end of the video. I by all means understand the title. This is your line of work it needs something that hooks but this camera is such a disappointment to a brand that tries to avoid releases such as this. As fans and loyal users, this doesn’t sit well with many for obvious reasons. So to see it deemed as “an almost perfect camera” feels forced
Im hoping this camera drops in price by the time the 18-40 is available, Id go £1500 with that lens, Im betting it hits that price point because reading the review comments I think itll need to.
I heard / read / saw somewhere that recording limits are more for tax purposes rather than anything else. Because without limits it would fall under video camera bracket instead of photo camera. Not sure how true is that. I shoot lumix professionally and have both S5ii and S5iix. And I take my FujiX100v with me when travelling. I am considering this because of all the lenses I have, etc. Size factor is huge for me.
It might be, but I also did talk directly to the Lumix team. It sounds like they had a pretty big back and forth about the time limit. Fingers crossed they listen to everyone's feedback and remove the limit, or at least make it longer.
There are some cameras that I will not consider buying. This one is on the top of this list. One has to be retarded to buy a full frame smartphone without smartphone features. Maybe at 800$, but not at this price point.
Honestly, if I was going to drop $1500 for a camera like this, I would just go with the Fuji. I even shoot LUMIX. If I’m going with that form factor, I’d much rather it just be a true point and shoot. And you at least get an EVF
With the missing features this is far from even being close to a "perfect camera". Slow readout speed, no hot shoe, no EVF, crippling record limit, no headphone jack, crop in video modes? Almost Perfect? More like almost total trash. And it costs $1500 USD. It's not even a good B cam. On a positive I like what Lumix is doing with the LUT options. Hopefully that trickles out to the rest of the industry.
Matt, stop stalking us from another reviewers! Great review Anthony, way more positive than the rest, who saw this more from the professional side of user, rather than a high end rangefinder little baby S5II camera, for those who actually have a S5II, but we want a tiny body when we're not working, without compromising the quality of photos or videos. I think is actually sick we're having all the quality from the big brother, in such a tiny cute camera. I love Matt, such a funny guy. Hahahah
An high res. Evf & supports Sony Mi's digital microphone, then this is an absolute perfect camera to me. I'm very impressive with its small size form factor & insane stabilization capability.
As always great video & info & I enjoyed it. Read some not so nice comments about your view as “being almost perfect camerea” etc.. just ignored those petty comments. Yours are always right to the points while being lighthearted and easy going..
That's kind of how I feel. If you're someone who was considering a ZV-E1 but doesn't need a hotshoe or long recording times, this feels like a bargain.
This camera is not for professional in experts level photography. It's content creators camera, who don't need camera setting. Just snap video/camera and produce good image.
Perfect camera? Not really close IMO. Pros for S9 vs S5ii: 258g lighter than S5ii, Smaller body, $300 cheaper than S5ii, LUT mayhem if you're into that, Cold shoe Pros for S5ii vs S9: EVF, Mechanical shutter, Dual card slots, Headphone jack, True unlimited recording with a fan, Way more buttons and customization in the body, Proxy recording, 14bit Raw files, Better grip, Weather sealed body, Hot shoe for flash photography and XLR adapter
The corner wobble in the early part of the video, is it from old s5ii firmware or manual lens? because i saw some youtuber says the new firmware fixes those wobble on wide angle lens, or maybe it doesnt really fix those thing
Recording limit in that S9 model...in 2024................. We Feel................ very Disappointed with Panasonic S9............ #getwellsoonpanasonic
few more than that unfortunately. no evf, no hot shoe, no shutter, no headphone jack, just ok frame rate options at massive crops, less than 15 minutes record time
There is too many of these s9 videos saturating the market. Lumix needs to slow the roll. I prefer biased reviews and those walking on the lumix tight rope after an event
no EVF 🤢 no mech shutter 🤢 record limits 🤢 no hotshoe 🤢 $1,500 🤢 $1,500 🤢 $1,500 🤢 I love panasonic but what happened LOL. I'm going to pretend the f/8 lens is just a late april fools joke.
I have a really horrible wife. I wish she had blonde hair and blue eyes and weighed 100 pounds, but alas. When we go mountain biking she is overheated and exhausted after an hour, but I want to go on. What a worthless woman I say. I expected her to do the bookkeeping and administration in addition to cooking, ironing, cleaning, taking the children to school, but no. It's really impossible to live with. How can the world do this to me... Not making my expectations come true... so harsh. Oh wait, this was about the new camera launched by Lumix. I expected it to has...., what did you say..., i doesnt have that?. What a shitty camera, that it aint what I made it up to in my mind. blegh.
“There is no such thing as a perfect camera, but the LUMIX S9 comes close”. Your words not mine Anthony. Had mad respect for you but unfortunately the cats out of the bag. With a heavy heart I will unsubscribe your channel.
A complete waste of engineering time... Who was the brainless engineer or salesman who thought launching that camera with pdaf alongside with a manual focus fixed aperture lens was a good idea???😂😂 Is that why you go for FF? It would have been much more inteligent to launch a gm5 replacement with the 25mp with pdaf, ibis, popup evf and articulated screen, to go for the action photography market.
I see it as a good beginner content creator camera for Tik Tokkers or a good entry level photo camera to get into the L-mount system. This is not for the full Professional. Casual shooter/videographer. Not a bad camera. What it is lacking, it makes up for in portability and fun experimentation.
There has been a high level of negativity surrounding this camera announcement. Before commenting, please watch the video all the way through.
I try my best to make positive, entertaining and educational camera content, while also encourage constructive feedback and discussion. Sadly, I have noticed a high amount of non-constructive feedback, hateful, or rude comments which is not the type of community I aim to foster. If you feel the need to make one of these comments, please consider that:
- Yes this camera has flaws which most creators (including myself) mentioned.
- Yes this was a "press event", which I fully disclosed.
- This is not a review, it's an overview / feature video, which I mentioned.
- If this camera makes you mad, it's probably not a camera for you.
- If this video makes you mad, this probably isn't a channel for you.
- There are creators, including myself who love specific aspects of this camera.
- It's okay to disagree, but consider doing so in a respectful and constructive manner.
Beyond that, several of my friends and fellow creators have made great follow up videos on the state of the S9 and camera TH-cam that I recommend you watch.
All I want is a perfect camera, all I want is a perfect cameraaa
It's a conspiracy
The influence of Mr 3d pop transcends dimensions
😂😂😂
I was gonna buy the Panasonic S9 when I heard rumors about the release, then I saw all the youtubers "reviewing" the camera and I said: "no, thank you."
Panasonic's reformed marketing strategy (paying Sony users to switch to Lumix and these Japan events) to fluff their brand is hitting all kinds of wrong. They went from being pretty quiet in the influencer space to full throttle and it hasn't gone unoticed.
No shutter, no evf, not remotely ergonomic for heavy FF lenses. No thanks. Also coming in ridiculous colors, I assume to try and drag in the beginner crowd, and then they price it totally out of a beginner friendly budget. I mean 1500 for a stripped down camera is insane. 1-200$ more get the Fuji XT5 ffs.....
It's definitely not a camera for everyone, but I will say I really like the green 🥹
No one cares bro you don’t have to announce you don’t want to but it 😂
All of the above plus, the red could've been darker.
Its not supposed to be a boring Sony. And who the hell is going to use this camera with a huge lens. This is more of a x100 competitor.
@@itsjantore there's no competition, this has a full frame for the same price.
Imagine a GX9 with this sensor and modern firmware. that would've been the perfect camera
If I was still on my Lumix GX85 I'd be all over this. Fits my style (I never used the EVF on my GX85). But I switched to Sony with my A7IV, and I definitely prefer the E Mount ecosystem to the L Mount.
The lack of a view finder is my #1 reason for buying this camera.
I'm just here because of Gerald...
He was right
absence of EVF, Hot Shoe, Mechanical Shutter, any kind of Flash. This camera is almost terrible.
I don't think non-flagships are targeting perfection.
This is a budget S5II, that statement in itself means cost reduction, and cost reduction means less features. The features they removed are parallel to the price reduction, and to me, they are all good decisions.
S5ii owner, also purchased the S9.. It's my B-cam / backup cam now, and I have been loving it. Super fun to shoot.
supposedly a bargain at $1500 a pop😂😂😂😂...i guess the old adage "a fool and his money are easily parted "still holds true today
A video shot on Panasonic has never disappointed me! It's unbelievable that a full-frame sensor (35.6 x 23.8 mm) can fit into a camera with a compact body 📷
...and I can't believe it, my idol is in Japan. I hope to meet you in person one day!👏
Not only full-frame, but full-size battery and Lumix IBIS too. Two things the Canon R8 doesn't have, that I think a lot of people glossed over!
i want this thing soo bad as a fan of a lumix and small cameras im in love
This camera is all over my TH-cam page right now.
It did just release today
@@RhettThompsonFilm I realized that now.
It's called marketing, the manufacturer paid for a bunch of TH-camrs to go to Japan and review the camera. In my opinion the TH-camrs should disclose the benefit they are receiving. Reviews where the reviewer receives a benefit will always be different. Even loaner cameras, loaner cameras to major press like PC Mag won't have an influence but to an individual TH-camr it will as they will won't to keep the flow of loaner cameras coming etc. Free trips is another level of influence.
What kills it for me is the lack of either a super bright 2600+ nit screen, or an evf. I need one or the other for shooting out in bright daylight. I often use the evf on my gx85 just to get the framing right in bright daylight. All the other compromises I can live with, but I need the ability to see what I'm doing in bright daylight.
As someone who loves editing and sits on photos for months, this is awesome. I don’t want Fuji recipes, I want my own!
Exactly. I really hope other camera companies pay attention and implement a similar feature!
@@AnthonyGugliotta Sony will 100% have to add this to the A7Cs and maybe it’s time for cannon to bring back the point & shoot lines.
@@Thehackerguy2000 Sony could start by finally implementing an in-camera raw converter :-)
How can you say this camera is close to perfect? PetaPixel was pretty clear of it obvious flaws. This video sounds like you are reviewing a whole different camera.
I talked to almost everyone who went on this trip including Chris. It was pretty obvious to me the direction most people were going to take their videos, and while I did mention all of the same flaws at multiple points throughout my video; I actively chose not make my content overly negative, and simply enjoy my time shooting with the camera. So while this camera might not be for you, or for pro shooters, it definitely has some features that appeal to the audience it's made for.
@@AnthonyGugliotta then the title should be "an almost perfect camera to the specific user" shouldn't it?
@@EricShoots That's why I talk about "who this camera is for" at the end of the video! 😉
@@AnthonyGugliotta agreed, i was getting towards the end of the video. I by all means understand the title. This is your line of work it needs something that hooks but this camera is such a disappointment to a brand that tries to avoid releases such as this. As fans and loyal users, this doesn’t sit well with many for obvious reasons. So to see it deemed as “an almost perfect camera” feels forced
Im hoping this camera drops in price by the time the 18-40 is available, Id go £1500 with that lens, Im betting it hits that price point because reading the review comments I think itll need to.
I heard / read / saw somewhere that recording limits are more for tax purposes rather than anything else. Because without limits it would fall under video camera bracket instead of photo camera. Not sure how true is that.
I shoot lumix professionally and have both S5ii and S5iix. And I take my FujiX100v with me when travelling. I am considering this because of all the lenses I have, etc. Size factor is huge for me.
It might be, but I also did talk directly to the Lumix team. It sounds like they had a pretty big back and forth about the time limit. Fingers crossed they listen to everyone's feedback and remove the limit, or at least make it longer.
Matt continuously photo bombing Anthony was hilarious 😂 😂
Panasonic strategy :
2024: no evf, no mechanical shutter, no hot shoe, no flash, no AF pancake Lens,….
2034: no Customers 😂😂😂
There are some cameras that I will not consider buying. This one is on the top of this list. One has to be retarded to buy a full frame smartphone without smartphone features. Maybe at 800$, but not at this price point.
2028: No Customers
Awesome, Thank Anthony for showing the app as well!
No mention of electronic shutter banding in artificial light. That is giving me pause.
Honestly, if I was going to drop $1500 for a camera like this, I would just go with the Fuji. I even shoot LUMIX. If I’m going with that form factor, I’d much rather it just be a true point and shoot. And you at least get an EVF
The X100VI is a fun camera
Fuji has the design philosophy, sony's got the tech and panasonic is a swiss army knife(minus the evf, grip and headphone jack)
Fuji uses a much smaller light sensor, so it's not even in the same league as the LUMIX camera. LUMIX takes the win on this one.
With the missing features this is far from even being close to a "perfect camera". Slow readout speed, no hot shoe, no EVF, crippling record limit, no headphone jack, crop in video modes? Almost Perfect? More like almost total trash. And it costs $1500 USD. It's not even a good B cam. On a positive I like what Lumix is doing with the LUT options. Hopefully that trickles out to the rest of the industry.
Yes that is the real review but remember this guy was in Japan eating sushi for free and who knows if he receive some compensation for his "review"
Matt, stop stalking us from another reviewers! Great review Anthony, way more positive than the rest, who saw this more from the professional side of user, rather than a high end rangefinder little baby S5II camera, for those who actually have a S5II, but we want a tiny body when we're not working, without compromising the quality of photos or videos. I think is actually sick we're having all the quality from the big brother, in such a tiny cute camera.
I love Matt, such a funny guy. Hahahah
I heard he also stole Jordan from Peta Pixel's camera 😉😉
@@AnthonyGugliotta also noticed that! No wonder he keeps that beard, to steal and hide others cameras! 🤣🤣🤣
An high res. Evf & supports Sony Mi's digital microphone, then this is an absolute perfect camera to me. I'm very impressive with its small size form factor & insane stabilization capability.
Im here only to see your friends in the background 😂❤️
LUMIX should add a bluetooth connection for headphones and enable the USB-C port for headphone out.
The other option I've heard is using something like the Rode or DJI wireless mics that have the ability to monitor with headphones!
lumix literally just had too many ff sensors and had to retrofit them somewhere on a budget
As always great video & info & I enjoyed it. Read some not so nice comments about your view as “being almost perfect camerea” etc.. just ignored those petty comments. Yours are always right to the points while being lighthearted and easy going..
Happy filming is the only way to end a video
😎
I have a Sony Zve10 and will never buy another camera without a EVF.
15m video... No thank you. I prefer g92
Lumix S9 FAKE 15min limit?
no mechanical shutter & cold shoe wth lumix😅
dunno how lumix deal with flash photography when they have a stacked /global and mechanical shutter haha
Hey Anthony, you gotta do a collab tour with Simon D'entremont once. PLEASE!!
Solid video Anthony, looks like a great camera! I like the colour options!
Panas started strongly pusing on Sony, and that's cool !) I have a S5IIX and this one would be a good b-cam for me.
That's kind of how I feel. If you're someone who was considering a ZV-E1 but doesn't need a hotshoe or long recording times, this feels like a bargain.
Which kit do you use for your you tube shorts? Also what how do you turn your Lightroom presets into a LUT?
Might need to make a video on the LUT process. Regarding kit, most of it is linked on my KIT page. I typically use the same cameras for everything.
is there any alternative to this one? specially with the software features!
An interesting camera...
It's quite interesting
This camera is not for professional in experts level photography.
It's content creators camera, who don't need camera setting. Just snap video/camera and produce good image.
Was looking foward to this reveiw
Perfect camera? Not really close IMO.
Pros for S9 vs S5ii: 258g lighter than S5ii, Smaller body, $300 cheaper than S5ii, LUT mayhem if you're into that, Cold shoe
Pros for S5ii vs S9: EVF, Mechanical shutter, Dual card slots, Headphone jack, True unlimited recording with a fan, Way more buttons and customization in the body, Proxy recording, 14bit Raw files, Better grip, Weather sealed body, Hot shoe for flash photography and XLR adapter
The S9 makes the S5ii look really good. Keep in mind everything has it's benefits. Some people would pay anything for a lightweight FF camera.
Is this or Fuji xt50 better
I sould say it's has one good feature only and the flaws to burden you
The corner wobble in the early part of the video, is it from old s5ii firmware or manual lens? because i saw some youtuber says the new firmware fixes those wobble on wide angle lens, or maybe it doesnt really fix those thing
probably canon
The vlog portion is filmed on Canon. Check the end of the video for S9 footage
Try to be SONY ZVE1...how i see it
Recording limit in that S9 model...in 2024................. We Feel................ very Disappointed with Panasonic S9............ #getwellsoonpanasonic
1 big flaw?
lolz apologies for the establishing shot
You made it better TBH
The almost perfect camera turn out to be the perfect fiasco
i have a osmo pocket 3 and gx85.. i can sell both for around 1,100 and then add some bread to buy this cam 😥😥 i think lmao
Is it though?
I counted 2 flaws... Cold shoe and electronic shutter only.
few more than that unfortunately. no evf, no hot shoe, no shutter, no headphone jack, just ok frame rate options at massive crops, less than 15 minutes record time
Cmon fuji do a fullframe
Fantastic video! You smashed it 🎥👊🏻
Nice video mate! Great to meet you in person at Japan too👍🏻
This camera is garbage - did Panasonic fly you out to Japan? 🚮
Is that a stalker with a beard following you all the time?
Yes
Does it have canon wobble?
No 🥹
Cool camera, a bit pricey for what it offers. The Lut function is awesome (kudos for that Lut montage). Excited to see new features in the industry.
I really hope other camera brands are paying attention
Thumbs down.
Music at the end?
Artlist!
cool!
Who asked for these silly cameras?🤔
I think more people will buy it if its m43. Im in the market for FP/FPL and this one is interesting for me.
There is too many of these s9 videos saturating the market. Lumix needs to slow the roll. I prefer biased reviews and those walking on the lumix tight rope after an event
10/10 Content Bro
Appreciate you ☺️
no EVF 🤢 no mech shutter 🤢 record limits 🤢 no hotshoe 🤢 $1,500 🤢 $1,500 🤢 $1,500 🤢 I love panasonic but what happened LOL. I'm going to pretend the f/8 lens is just a late april fools joke.
just get the S5IIX 🤦♀️
I have a really horrible wife. I wish she had blonde hair and blue eyes and weighed 100 pounds, but alas. When we go mountain biking she is overheated and exhausted after an hour, but I want to go on. What a worthless woman I say. I expected her to do the bookkeeping and administration in addition to cooking, ironing, cleaning, taking the children to school, but no. It's really impossible to live with. How can the world do this to me... Not making my expectations come true... so harsh. Oh wait, this was about the new camera launched by Lumix. I expected it to has...., what did you say..., i doesnt have that?. What a shitty camera, that it aint what I made it up to in my mind. blegh.
Overheats..quickly..10 minutes? Whoops miss the money shot. Thnx I'll pass
Depends. Go check my most recent short. I recorded for almost an hour.
Two words: gear fatigue
Excellent boss ❤❤❤
Matt 😂
Matt's the best
This is a POS camera don’t waste your money.
Anyway, this is a joke.
“There is no such thing as a perfect camera, but the LUMIX S9 comes close”. Your words not mine Anthony. Had mad respect for you but unfortunately the cats out of the bag. With a heavy heart I will unsubscribe your channel.
No viewfinder? No thanks.
First view
Pin me pls
A complete waste of engineering time... Who was the brainless engineer or salesman who thought launching that camera with pdaf alongside with a manual focus fixed aperture lens was a good idea???😂😂 Is that why you go for FF?
It would have been much more inteligent to launch a gm5 replacement with the 25mp with pdaf, ibis, popup evf and articulated screen, to go for the action photography market.
。。。
Good color science
I see it as a good beginner content creator camera for Tik Tokkers or a good entry level photo camera to get into the L-mount system. This is not for the full Professional. Casual shooter/videographer. Not a bad camera. What it is lacking, it makes up for in portability and fun experimentation.
@photolariTV spotted there #photolaritv
Who else can you spot? 😛