I'm from Bucks County, PA, but lived in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont-THAT IS NORTH! 20 to 46 below. Now, in western NC, it is about the same weather as piedmont PA. We don't have too many problems with gelling here or other problems. I wouldn't add kerosene to a newer tractor.
If you own a 1970s Ford 2000 or higher diesel turn your key with both lights on for about 7-10 minutes then try to crank. If it’s just cranking slightly hold your exhaust flap closed and she will fire after a couple turns . I live in TN and mine started up after those instructions.
Plug in the block heater for a couple hours before starting. Keep a battery tender on the tractor. Treat the fuel and keep it topped off. That's all I got.
It's a bit late for any tips now , but most that I can give need to be done ahead anyway , so to prep for next winter here are a few .when winter fuel becomes available burn up your summer fuel before filling your tank , unless you will be using up the mixed fuel before cold weather . Get a building to put it in , even just blocking wind helps . Block heater will help , but a circulating heater is even better , they come in 750 ,1000 ,1500 watt . Use synthetic 0-w30 or 0-w40 oil .at - 40 it pours like conventional oil at freezing temp , the w means it's formulated for cold , tarp up the front as well as sides and under the engine ,any heat you can hold in helps as well as keeping fuel lines and filters warmer . I have seen people run a coolant line taped onto the fuel line back as far as the tank . I always used double the amperage battery , either a bigger battery or two of them.japanese or european built machinery may need a heated shop , they are just not made to operate at real cold temps , they will run but the hydraulic systems will blow pumps ,seals , and o-rings , hydrostatic drives will not work, things like that. Lots depends on the individual tractor , often you find identical units that right from new one will start cold,other won't . Neighbor had a english built tractor, when he left the heated shop in cold weather , he had 45 minutes to feed cows then it cooled off so much it just quit running
live in north central arkansas and yesterday morning ( wednesday ) it was -3 with a windchill of -11 and my 2010 kubota L3400 fired right up . I lived in Illinois for 20 yrs so the experience helped . we had an 11" snow and I moved a lot of it
I treat winter diesel with Power Service (white bottle) and Biobor algaecide when I fill the can at the pump, and fill the tractor through a Mr. Funnel to get all the water out.
No issues here around wacko Texas even when it was 1 degree outside just preheated the plugs for 15-20 seconds. Fuel I bought a 4-5 months ago and no treatment. It runs a bit rough for a minute or 2 but smooths out. I guess I'm lucky.
As far as I can remember it's been the coldest for the longest period of time. you guys being a couple hundred miles north are a bit more geared for this. this is the first time I've even seen large amounts of ice on the roads and I've been here since the early 2000s. And trust me glow plugs are being utilized
I keep my L3540 HST in my shop in MS. Always about 32° or more. It starts every time. I have battery maintainers plugged in on all of my equipment.It sure sure makes a difference.
Thanks for the advice. The new MX5400 started right up. The old B7510 and the RTV, I didnt even attempt. This is the first winter we have had in a long time in middle tennessee. Stay warm and dry!
So when I was thinking of buying my tractor I killed myself trying to decide between cab and no cab. It was a huge decision about almost 10k difference. My buddy in Southern California called me P---y, my old neighbor called me a whimp. But I'm so glad I didn't listen to them I'm plowing snow in style got my heat and playing my tunes and in the summer 😎 I'm cool as a cucumber with ac. Your videos were a huge part in my decision making process Love my kabota.
Very good tips Neil, thanks. I live in the northern panhandle of W.V. and our winters seasons are almost identical to yours. I have friends in Louisiana and Texas my thoughts and Prayers go out to them. They don't have snow plows and Salt Trucks to treat their roads. As you said here, its just a typical Feb weather and we can expect anything. Thanks Neil and God Bless
Biggest thing with diesel or kerosene is the maintain a good mix... each manufactuer is different, but as far as AGCO machines go 50/50 mix works well, while some other machines need a 70/30 mix to have no issues subzero weather. I don't think in general you don't want to run 100% kerosene for that specific reason of lubrication, and that it also kills your fuel economy too. Even with running with more kerosene, fuel additives can help alleviate some of the drawbacks from running more of it to gain some of that lubricity back.
Had no problem at -28F we used block heater and hot shot's secret anti gel additive tested on the TH-cam channel Project Farm. Plus cardboard in front of 1/2 the radiator.
Yeah, I didn't know what a block heater was until a few days ago. Can't find that here, all the additives are long since gone. We don't have any snow plows here, I just got back from getting plumbing parts and ice and snow everywhere on the roads. Some parts of the road had sand on it, that was it.
Florida here former York,Pa. Our normal lows are around 58f... Do I need to use my glow plug feature? just kidding lol most places in the further south where it is not normal for this kind of cold some folks are experiencing. Another tip I usually have to remind my wife when we go north in the winter... adding winter washer fluid too lol No additive in diesel really here in florida during the winter unless you go to a truck stop etc. Always put the low temp additives to coolants fuels and washer fluids. Great video NEIL. Good to see this informative video.
In Canada we get winterized diesel from October to April , it is in the pumps. I have a block heater on my Kubota but I have never needed it. I was minus 22 the other day and the Kubota started up right away first crank. One thing I would recommend to all my southern neighbours is to put a diesel additive in every time you buy fuel. I put mine in at the pump. I use Howes diesel treatment and have never had a problem starting any of my diesels.
East Texas resident here, Kubota M5-111 cycled glow plugs twice and started without issue did the same for the RTVX 1140. However, the F250 Powerstroke was a no go the thought of treating the diesel never crossed my mind plus I guess I didn't really believe it would be somewhere between -1 and 5 degrees. Live and learn I guess.
It's unfortunate, but once the fuel starts gelling it's too late for an addiive to work. If fuel isn't circulating the additive doesn't get where it's needed. Best to start with additive before it gets cold and keep it up eith each fill until things warm up. That way it gets circulated through everything. For sure put it in and run the machine some when the forecast says cold weather is coming. I live in northern Minnesota. It's starting to warm up finally. Only 23 below last night.
Thats exactly right.. Keep an eye on the long term forecast.. If unusually cold weather is coming your way, go get the additives and things your need to be prepared
Coming from Maine to Texas, its quite funny to see how people are dealing with this. Your points are well given. That being said, there is going to be a lot of freeze damage in houses for the people without power and the -2F that we have gotten to here. I was ready with additive for the fuel as well, as I have seen gelling and its messy to deal with. And next week it will be in the 60's.
Heyhey Neil Good advice. I live in North Pole Alaska and have never had an issue with gelling or anything else. You gave good suggestions I use a #1 diesel fuel and add a treatment, I have a block heater transmission heater and battery heater on my tractor and I am able to run it at 25 below zero but then become a little concerned about my hydraulic lines. I am not sure what effect the cold has on a hydraulic system so I try to be careful at really cold temps. Thanks
Being originally from South East Kansas (parents still there farming), this gelling is all too common. Even though they are buying treated fuel, the suppliers won't get it fully mixed for a few months. This in addition to several thousands of on-site storage at the farm leads to shut down equipment. Interestingly enough my dad just called me last night that their Kubota UTV was shut down due to this. Have a safe and wonderful week - Jason Huser - Huser Helpers
One thing good about northern climates, we get winterized fuel at the pump. Course us old diesel owners know you better be using powerservice , stanadyne or something similar
Another tip Neil didn't mention was to find fuel with above average Cetane points which is 40. A fuel additive works great. Bottom line is.. TREAT EVERY LOCATION IN THE US IN THE WINTER MONTHS. AS IF ITS RECORD COLD TEMPS.
Here in Oklahoma we deal with below freezing temps but not weeks below 0. Even our treated diesel fuel is jelling. My tractor and both trucks wouldn’t start the other day.
Here is something to think about. What is better? A block heater (to heat the engine coolant) or An engine oil heater ( to heat the oil in the oil pan).
I see videos on like how certain types of tires and chains can help you get more traction in snow and mud, but I dont see tactics for getting out of snow. I know it seems strait forward, but I'd kind of like to see a video from you guys that has things like tips and tricks to get out of snow, then maybe a demonstration. And not just tips for asphalt, maybe dirt and rocks? 🤷♂️ Keep up the good work!
Hi I'm tiring to put a snow / grade blade on the three point on the MF 1739E. I have the backhoe removed. The brackets of course stay. I can't find a place to hook my stabilizers. Do you think they sacrificed my connection points for the backhoe brackets ? Where should I hook them?
Living in Québec Canada we have cold winter. I use the block heater every time before I start it but how long should I run the engine before working with it ?
I posted videos yesterday and today of starting my JD 3025E. Yesterday it would not crank in the morning when it was -6 but once we got up to 17, it cranked. Located in SW Arkansas. Mid 20’s in the winter is normal for us and occasional snow. 12-15” of snow and -6 is Far from normal for us.
My Kubota M9960 will not run. Starving for fuel. Been so cold here in Oklahoma (was -13 the other night) water seperator froze up one day. Got it thawed and it ran good next but the day after it quit running again. And can't get it to work. Starts and may go a few feet and dies. Seems it has some air in it also. Going to try to clean seperator but I don't have another fuel filter. Hopefully I can get it working without new filter cause I need it to put hay out and don't live near Kubota dealership Edit: Well, seems there was a little frozen water in the seperator but I think the main problem was fuel filter was frozen on inside in the midde. About the size of a marble. Melted it and put it back together and got it going and it ran pretty darn good.
Minus 10 degrees in central Ohio! Not going to start tractor now, open station. Got snow moved yesterday. Ran glow plugs about 10 seconds on 20 + year old Kubota, start ok.
It's not uncommon for it to get to 0 or below where I live in Eastern Missouri. This time around my fuel gelled up in my truck and skid steer. Ended up putting 5 gallons of kerosene in the tank of the truck to get it running. Had a heat lamp and blankets to get the skid steer off the trailer and back in the barn.
They probably do not have #1 Diesel fuel in the south. Adding 50% of the tank capacity with kerosene will let it run down to -20. 25% keosene will usually work down to 0*. Or that has been my work experience with Diesel farm tractors and Diesel pickups when I was a sales man on the road running a 1978 Diesel Chevy pickup.
My 2019 b2650 started just fine with single digit temperature even though I forgot anti gel. After it started I added the anti gel and worked it for an hour. My old b7100hst would not have ever started
Haha. Ditto in northwest Ohio. Had the 'bota out doing the driveway last night. Started it. Brap barp brap. Vrooommmmm... love it. It was so cold, I, a former Canadian from Northern Canada, had to go in twice to unfreeze my nose.
I had to rebuild the fuel pump 10 years ago and the guy that helped me rebuild the told me not to buy diesel fuel from the pump . He told me to Burn number 1 furnace oil because my fuel pump is macincallical not electric fuel injected and it needs the lubrication. The fuel now a days is not lubricated the same as it used to be. I HAVE TO PUT ADDITIVES IN , in the summer.
this will vary by fuel suppliers, but for most places diesel from the pump and heating oil is coming from the same bulk tank. Only difference is the dye. He is right about newer fuel not having as much lubrication.
My brother has been a mechanic for 55 years of his life he told me I was stupid. Last fall he was doing research and called me and told me he was sorry. He told me I was right about the fuel they have taken a lot of the chemical lubrication out of the fuel. He told me to Burn kerosene or number 1 stove oil. If I used the the other fuel I would be replacing my pump every 5 year's or less. I have found a huge difference in the usage of my tractor 2 1/2 gallons of fuel will last about 3 days. Where using the other fuel 5 gallons 2 day's not good for the tractor turns over and over even if I use the gloe-plugs!
My tractor is 234 International Hydro 1982 was the year we got it. And still looks new! I build my own tools for it. I do landscaping with it and then some!
I have a friend from Canada that lived in Rhode Island for years before moving to NC. He won't drive here after he tried it a couple of times and thought he was going to die. He'll tell you it's a lot different down here.
@@JeffMadre Yep, moved to Alabama from Minnesota several years ago and over the years I've come to appreciate that the roads in Alabama are built more to shed water (lots and lots of water) more than they are for winter weather. At this point I'd take a Minnesota blizzard over an Alabama ice/snow storm.
I live in the north close to Messick's and yes even gasoline engines have starting issues as well for us idk about diesel but soon I going to school for diesel. We use a choke to get the engine started in the morning in spring or fall.
Choking a diesel will make it HARDER to start, or even prevent it entirely. Without a full air charge, there's not enough compression heating to ignite the fuel.
i'm 100 km ( 50 miles) south of Sydney, Australia, we do get frost, but never had snow, so i have some snow questions, should we happen to be so unlucky to get snow : do you need to warm up the engine in idle longer before working it ? are hills more dangerous ( grip wise ) in snow ? what is the lowest temperature you would plow in ? " " " rotery hoe in ?
We’ve gotten about 8-10” of snow in Arkansas! Can’t find ice melt or diesel treatment! Lol we’ve been trying to plow and everyone’s fighting they’re skid steers and tractors because they’re gelling on them! It is definitely a mess down here at the moment!
I was informed that oxygen bonds and burns differently at temperatures extremes. So winter diesel doesn’t burn as clean in our 100+ temps and high humidity climate.
For those of us who live in the North West off grid and no way to use a block heater. I fill my ash can with hot coals and place it under the oil pan. Sometimes for a couple of hours. Works great! Especially when we have many days at -20 to -30
Yes and no... A long low idle times will cause future oil dilution and carbon build up. A better idea is once the engine smoothes out. Run it up to a high idle of about 1,000 rpm.
@@nickg2366 I live in Tennessee. It’s get this cold “in the south” every single year. You northerners acting like we are experiencing something unheard of. Texas? I’ll give you that, but for the rest of us, we know how to deal with diesels for the “cold” that we get. That’s why this is hilarious. Furthermore, anyone who doesn’t know about glow plugs or grid heaters should have their diesel taken away. We know how to operate glow plug wait times.
How bout send us some of that snow and ice down here to the South so that we can try out these cold weather tips. Some of us would love to see snow or even ice cause we don’t ever see any and y’all lucky ones get a ton of it!
Many years of running equipment at -30 + below... yep tons of fun
I'm from Bucks County, PA, but lived in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont-THAT IS NORTH! 20 to 46 below. Now, in western NC, it is about the same weather as piedmont PA. We don't have too many problems with gelling here or other problems. I wouldn't add kerosene to a newer tractor.
If you own a 1970s Ford 2000 or higher diesel turn your key with both lights on for about 7-10 minutes then try to crank. If it’s just cranking slightly hold your exhaust flap closed and she will fire after a couple turns . I live in TN and mine started up after those instructions.
This video is just in time, it has been 44˚ at night and the daytime highs are 70˚. We are freezing here in Phoenix..... :)
Plug in the block heater for a couple hours before starting. Keep a battery tender on the tractor. Treat the fuel and keep it topped off. That's all I got.
It's a bit late for any tips now , but most that I can give need to be done ahead anyway , so to prep for next winter here are a few .when winter fuel becomes available burn up your summer fuel before filling your tank , unless you will be using up the mixed fuel before cold weather . Get a building to put it in , even just blocking wind helps . Block heater will help , but a circulating heater is even better , they come in 750 ,1000 ,1500 watt . Use synthetic 0-w30 or 0-w40 oil .at - 40 it pours like conventional oil at freezing temp , the w means it's formulated for cold , tarp up the front as well as sides and under the engine ,any heat you can hold in helps as well as keeping fuel lines and filters warmer . I have seen people run a coolant line taped onto the fuel line back as far as the tank . I always used double the amperage battery , either a bigger battery or two of them.japanese or european built machinery may need a heated shop , they are just not made to operate at real cold temps , they will run but the hydraulic systems will blow pumps ,seals , and o-rings , hydrostatic drives will not work, things like that. Lots depends on the individual tractor , often you find identical units that right from new one will start cold,other won't . Neighbor had a english built tractor, when he left the heated shop in cold weather , he had 45 minutes to feed cows then it cooled off so much it just quit running
💥 All great advice Neil! 👍
*Keep on tractoring!*
live in north central arkansas and yesterday morning ( wednesday ) it was -3 with a windchill of -11 and my 2010 kubota L3400 fired right up . I lived in Illinois for 20 yrs so the experience helped . we had an 11" snow and I moved a lot of it
Thanks , yea it was crazy down here in Tx. thanks for the tips.
I treat winter diesel with Power Service (white bottle) and Biobor algaecide when I fill the can at the pump, and fill the tractor through a Mr. Funnel to get all the water out.
we've been going up a bit of an uphill battle trying to get equipment running down here in South Eastern Texas advice is always appreciated
No issues here around wacko Texas even when it was 1 degree outside just preheated the plugs for 15-20 seconds. Fuel I bought a 4-5 months ago and no treatment. It runs a bit rough for a minute or 2 but smooths out. I guess I'm lucky.
As far as I can remember it's been the coldest for the longest period of time. you guys being a couple hundred miles north are a bit more geared for this. this is the first time I've even seen large amounts of ice on the roads and I've been here since the early 2000s. And trust me glow plugs are being utilized
I keep my L3540 HST in my shop in MS. Always about 32° or more. It starts every time. I have battery maintainers plugged in on all of my equipment.It sure sure makes a difference.
Great subject for our southern friends that may not be aware.
This is why I follow Messicks channel, covering the bases.
Thx Niel.👍
Thanks for the advice. The new MX5400 started right up. The old B7510 and the RTV, I didnt even attempt. This is the first winter we have had in a long time in middle tennessee. Stay warm and dry!
So when I was thinking of buying my tractor I killed myself trying to decide between cab and no cab. It was a huge decision about almost 10k difference. My buddy in Southern California called me P---y, my old neighbor called me a whimp. But I'm so glad I didn't listen to them I'm plowing snow in style got my heat and playing my tunes and in the summer 😎 I'm cool as a cucumber with ac. Your videos were a huge part in my decision making process
Love my kabota.
Very good tips Neil, thanks. I live in the northern panhandle of W.V. and our winters seasons are almost identical to yours. I have friends in Louisiana and Texas my thoughts and Prayers go out to them. They don't have snow plows and Salt Trucks to treat their roads. As you said here, its just a typical Feb weather and we can expect anything. Thanks Neil and God Bless
Biggest thing with diesel or kerosene is the maintain a good mix... each manufactuer is different, but as far as AGCO machines go 50/50 mix works well, while some other machines need a 70/30 mix to have no issues subzero weather. I don't think in general you don't want to run 100% kerosene for that specific reason of lubrication, and that it also kills your fuel economy too. Even with running with more kerosene, fuel additives can help alleviate some of the drawbacks from running more of it to gain some of that lubricity back.
Man I love Ford tractors
Had no problem at -28F we used block heater and hot shot's secret anti gel additive tested on the TH-cam channel Project Farm. Plus cardboard in front of 1/2 the radiator.
Thank you! Just moved to Montana from South Carolina .
Yeah, I didn't know what a block heater was until a few days ago. Can't find that here, all the additives are long since gone. We don't have any snow plows here, I just got back from getting plumbing parts and ice and snow everywhere on the roads. Some parts of the road had sand on it, that was it.
block heater. easiest and best way to start a diesel in the winter. I am surprised they don't make one for the hyd's.
Use a magnetic electric block heater just makes it little easier for the hyd pump . Im in northern Ontario Canada cold is our normal 🤣🇨🇦
@@skijet12 yup, good idea.
Our tractor, dozer and trackhoe have them for the hydraulics as well.
Once the engine is running the hydro oil will warm up
Florida here former York,Pa.
Our normal lows are around 58f... Do I need to use my glow plug feature?
just kidding lol
most places in the further south where it is not normal for this kind of cold some folks are experiencing. Another tip I usually have to remind my wife when we go north in the winter... adding winter washer fluid too lol
No additive in diesel really here in florida during the winter unless you go to a truck stop etc. Always put the low temp additives to coolants fuels and washer fluids.
Great video NEIL. Good to see this informative video.
depends on the tractor, a lot of them start just fine at mild temperatures
Would like to see a Block heater Install on a BX series. I'm In Colorado and am thinking about installing one On my BX23S!!
In Canada we get winterized diesel from October to April , it is in the pumps. I have a block heater on my Kubota but I have never needed it. I was minus 22 the other day and the Kubota started up right away first crank. One thing I would recommend to all my southern neighbours is to put a diesel additive in every time you buy fuel. I put mine in at the pump. I use Howes diesel treatment and have never had a problem starting any of my diesels.
Good info thanks for sharing.
East Texas resident here, Kubota M5-111 cycled glow plugs twice and started without issue did the same for the RTVX 1140. However, the F250 Powerstroke was a no go the thought of treating the diesel never crossed my mind plus I guess I didn't really believe it would be somewhere between -1 and 5 degrees. Live and learn I guess.
It's unfortunate, but once the fuel starts gelling it's too late for an addiive to work. If fuel isn't circulating the additive doesn't get where it's needed.
Best to start with additive before it gets cold and keep it up eith each fill until things warm up. That way it gets circulated through everything.
For sure put it in and run the machine some when the forecast says cold weather is coming.
I live in northern Minnesota. It's starting to warm up finally. Only 23 below last night.
Thats exactly right.. Keep an eye on the long term forecast.. If unusually cold weather is coming your way, go get the additives and things your need to be prepared
Neil, Another great informational video! ~SBYD!
We in Mississippi will gladly let you guys up north have all that fun cleaning off snow!
it is fun!
you have fun with 8 months of mosquitos...
Coming from Maine to Texas, its quite funny to see how people are dealing with this. Your points are well given. That being said, there is going to be a lot of freeze damage in houses for the people without power and the -2F that we have gotten to here. I was ready with additive for the fuel as well, as I have seen gelling and its messy to deal with. And next week it will be in the 60's.
Heyhey Neil Good advice. I live in North Pole Alaska and have never had an issue with gelling or anything else. You gave good suggestions I use a #1 diesel fuel and add a treatment, I have a block heater transmission heater and battery heater on my tractor and I am able to run it at 25 below zero but then become a little concerned about my hydraulic lines. I am not sure what effect the cold has on a hydraulic system so I try to be careful at really cold temps. Thanks
Here in Minnesota, it was near -30°. We were concerned for folks in the south.
Yup! Wondered about our friends in TX & TN! ಠಿ_ಠ
@@gus473 it gets this cold in Tennessee every single year. We don’t need worries about.
Being originally from South East Kansas (parents still there farming), this gelling is all too common. Even though they are buying treated fuel, the suppliers won't get it fully mixed for a few months. This in addition to several thousands of on-site storage at the farm leads to shut down equipment. Interestingly enough my dad just called me last night that their Kubota UTV was shut down due to this. Have a safe and wonderful week - Jason Huser - Huser Helpers
Thank you
Perfect timing. Thx for all the tips
Ty. New tractor owner here in SW Arkansas
what about using 1 fuel oil (heating oil) we used to fill our tractors with this in the winter
in most cases, fuel oil and diesel oil come from the same tank.
Excellent foundational advice, Neil! It is amazing how many so-called "experienced" operators are not using their glow plug properly! Well said!
One thing good about northern climates, we get winterized fuel at the pump. Course us old diesel owners know you better be using powerservice , stanadyne or something similar
Another tip Neil didn't mention was to find fuel with above average Cetane points which is 40. A fuel additive works great.
Bottom line is.. TREAT EVERY LOCATION IN THE US IN THE WINTER MONTHS. AS IF ITS RECORD COLD TEMPS.
Here in Oklahoma we deal with below freezing temps but not weeks below 0. Even our treated diesel fuel is jelling. My tractor and both trucks wouldn’t start the other day.
Here is something to think about. What is better? A block heater (to heat the engine coolant) or An engine oil heater ( to heat the oil in the oil pan).
Had -30 windchills yesterday in Oklahoma.
I see videos on like how certain types of tires and chains can help you get more traction in snow and mud, but I dont see tactics for getting out of snow. I know it seems strait forward, but I'd kind of like to see a video from you guys that has things like tips and tricks to get out of snow, then maybe a demonstration. And not just tips for asphalt, maybe dirt and rocks? 🤷♂️ Keep up the good work!
there are a bunch of videos about getting out of mud, the same techniques would work.
@@MessicksEquip Awesome, I shall check those out. Thanks for the help!
That was nice of you to do this video to help out those that might need it!
My 97 7.3 ps took 2 cranks because it was -18f but it still started
Neil is single handedly saving the nation from fuel gelling. What a legend
Hi I'm tiring to put a snow / grade blade on the three point on the MF 1739E. I have the backhoe removed. The brackets of course stay. I can't find a place to hook my stabilizers. Do you think they sacrificed my connection points for the backhoe brackets ? Where should I hook them?
Living in Québec Canada we have cold winter. I use the block heater every time before I start it but how long should I run the engine before working with it ?
I recommend 15 minutes min.
Lol, 2 days ago I just found out for the first time that diesel fuel gels up in cold weather 😂. Every place that sells fuel winterizer is sold out.
I posted videos yesterday and today of starting my JD 3025E. Yesterday it would not crank in the morning when it was -6 but once we got up to 17, it cranked. Located in SW Arkansas. Mid 20’s in the winter is normal for us and occasional snow. 12-15” of snow and -6 is Far from normal for us.
Good tips for folks that haven't owned a diesel where it gets really cold before. In Central KY here, got enough ice the mail didn't run.
My Kubota M9960 will not run. Starving for fuel. Been so cold here in Oklahoma (was -13 the other night) water seperator froze up one day. Got it thawed and it ran good next but the day after it quit running again. And can't get it to work. Starts and may go a few feet and dies. Seems it has some air in it also. Going to try to clean seperator but I don't have another fuel filter. Hopefully I can get it working without new filter cause I need it to put hay out and don't live near Kubota dealership
Edit:
Well, seems there was a little frozen water in the seperator but I think the main problem was fuel filter was frozen on inside in the midde. About the size of a marble. Melted it and put it back together and got it going and it ran pretty darn good.
Thanks
Minus 10 degrees in central Ohio! Not going to start tractor now, open station. Got snow moved yesterday. Ran glow plugs about 10 seconds on 20 + year old Kubota, start ok.
Project Farm tested diesel fuel treatment, good info.
It's not uncommon for it to get to 0 or below where I live in Eastern Missouri. This time around my fuel gelled up in my truck and skid steer. Ended up putting 5 gallons of kerosene in the tank of the truck to get it running. Had a heat lamp and blankets to get the skid steer off the trailer and back in the barn.
They probably do not have #1 Diesel fuel in the south. Adding 50% of the tank capacity with kerosene will let it run down to -20. 25% keosene will usually work down to 0*. Or that has been my work experience with Diesel farm tractors and Diesel pickups when I was a sales man on the road running a 1978 Diesel Chevy pickup.
My 2019 b2650 started just fine with single digit temperature even though I forgot anti gel. After it started I added the anti gel and worked it for an hour. My old b7100hst would not have ever started
Keep a battery tender on your equipment. 7 degrees in eastern Ohio this morning. Kubota started (of course) but it wasn’t happy
Haha. Ditto in northwest Ohio. Had the 'bota out doing the driveway last night. Started it. Brap barp brap. Vrooommmmm... love it. It was so cold, I, a former Canadian from Northern Canada, had to go in twice to unfreeze my nose.
7 degrees wow that's a heatwave.. 40 below now we're talking
@@benjybaldwin773 where is it 40 below?
Starting fluid
Never use Starting Fluid on a Diesel engine.
Starting fluid is very bad for diesels with glow plugs or plenum heaters! Can cause very expensive repairs.
Well one idea is to pull off the air filter and use a hair dryer or low temp setting heat gun. To warm the combustion chamber.
We all can’t be peg...
I had to rebuild the fuel pump 10 years ago and the guy that helped me rebuild the told me not to buy diesel fuel from the pump . He told me to Burn number 1 furnace oil because my fuel pump is macincallical not electric fuel injected and it needs the lubrication. The fuel now a days is not lubricated the same as it used to be. I HAVE TO PUT ADDITIVES IN , in the summer.
this will vary by fuel suppliers, but for most places diesel from the pump and heating oil is coming from the same bulk tank. Only difference is the dye. He is right about newer fuel not having as much lubrication.
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My brother has been a mechanic for 55 years of his life he told me I was stupid. Last fall he was doing research and called me and told me he was sorry. He told me I was right about the fuel they have taken a lot of the chemical lubrication out of the fuel. He told me to Burn kerosene or number 1 stove oil. If I used the the other fuel I would be replacing my pump every 5 year's or less. I have found a huge difference in the usage of my tractor 2 1/2 gallons of fuel will last about 3 days. Where using the other fuel 5 gallons 2 day's not good for the tractor turns over and over even if I use the gloe-plugs!
My tractor is 234 International Hydro 1982 was the year we got it. And still looks new! I build my own tools for it. I do landscaping with it and then some!
@@bryanmccallum4614 Kerosene has no lube in it, it is highly refined diesel.
Prob is in the south the snow turns into a think sheet of ice in a few hours
I have a friend from Canada that lived in Rhode Island for years before moving to NC. He won't drive here after he tried it a couple of times and thought he was going to die. He'll tell you it's a lot different down here.
@@JeffMadre Yep, moved to Alabama from Minnesota several years ago and over the years I've come to appreciate that the roads in Alabama are built more to shed water (lots and lots of water) more than they are for winter weather. At this point I'd take a Minnesota blizzard over an Alabama ice/snow storm.
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I live in the north close to Messick's and yes even gasoline engines have starting issues as well for us idk about diesel but soon I going to school for diesel. We use a choke to get the engine started in the morning in spring or fall.
Choking a diesel will make it HARDER to start, or even prevent it entirely.
Without a full air charge, there's not enough compression heating to ignite the fuel.
i'm 100 km ( 50 miles) south of Sydney, Australia, we do get frost, but never had snow, so i have some snow questions, should we happen to be so unlucky to get snow : do you need to warm up the engine in idle longer before working it ? are hills more dangerous ( grip wise ) in snow ? what is the lowest temperature you would plow in ? " " " rotery hoe in ?
Probably never need to do this down in Alamo, Tx .... go ahead... google map it 😆
How about northern Ontario 🇨🇦-30 degrees everyday
We’ve gotten about 8-10” of snow in Arkansas! Can’t find ice melt or diesel treatment! Lol we’ve been trying to plow and everyone’s fighting they’re skid steers and tractors because they’re gelling on them! It is definitely a mess down here at the moment!
No matter where you live you need a good battery .Cold kills batteries.
True get a battery heater or maintainer.
@m9 ovich Yes extreme heat..but I am sure the heater only gets it warm
we used to just get some charcoal and build a fire under it especially the old grumpy fords
Was -10 and my fuel clouded up and it took half an hour with the engine idling for it to clear up.
we call that "gelling up"
Best tip buy gas. Only kidding. But my old gas fords start all the time.
Is "winter diesel "a problem in the summer? I live in northern Indiana and buy diesel fuel 5 gallons at a time.
Good question!
I was informed that oxygen bonds and burns differently at temperatures extremes. So winter diesel doesn’t burn as clean in our 100+ temps and high humidity climate.
Huh? I am in Florida it's 70 degree here.
Have you ever had a block heater started a fire how hot does it get?
The heating element is inside the engine. Can't see how it would start a house fire. The element itself does get very warm.
@@MessicksEquip crap extension cord that can’t handle the load could.
For those of us who live in the North West off grid and no way to use a block heater. I fill my ash can with hot coals and place it under the oil pan. Sometimes for a couple of hours. Works great! Especially when we have many days at -20 to -30
I did that once when my gm 6.5td block heater failed
I like to see you do Donuts arown there
Some might say, “God put it (the snow) there, God can take it away.”
Hey Neil, How cold does diesel additive work? I'm in Iowa it's below zero for several days now.
all the products are different, we use this.
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Your thoughts on biodiesel??
causes more problems in the cold. Starts to cause wax deposits.
can I use a blowtorch to heat the fuel tank to ungel the diesel ?
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I AM kidding
Neil, why is the video so dark? I could hardly see you! Were you shooting this at night? Great subject for a video but just a little too dark. Thanks.
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White snow is bright in the sun so the camera will auto adjust or your gonna be blinded and Neil would be black.
Remember once that engine is running let it idle for a while, 15 to 20 minutes is not too long in cold weather.
Yes and no... A long low idle times will cause future oil dilution and carbon build up.
A better idea is once the engine smoothes out. Run it up to a high idle of about 1,000 rpm.
Hi neil
Sad part is the south has things to add to this list... 🤣
This is hilarious. It gets cold in the south.
It was -30 in Minnesota this weekend, how cold does it get down South?🤣🤣🤣 The South knows about cold as much as we know about heat lol
@@nickg2366 I live in Tennessee. It’s get this cold “in the south” every single year. You northerners acting like we are experiencing something unheard of. Texas? I’ll give you that, but for the rest of us, we know how to deal with diesels for the “cold” that we get. That’s why this is hilarious. Furthermore, anyone who doesn’t know about glow plugs or grid heaters should have their diesel taken away. We know how to operate glow plug wait times.
@@nickg2366 -20 here in Arkansas
What about using ether in the intake?
What about the hydronic
How bout send us some of that snow and ice down here to the South so that we can try out these cold weather tips. Some of us would love to see snow or even ice cause we don’t ever see any and y’all lucky ones get a ton of it!
Thank you