The sad thing is it's not people saying "We will not pay these prices".. no, it's the banks saying "we won't finance these prices". Your average American car or truck buyer will pay any price at any rate for any length of terms so long as they think they can afford the payment.
even if they can't afford the payments, as long as the bank says yes they will get it, the same with a house. They don't care that they will have to take every promotion at work, work 20hrs of overtime every week, without missing any weeks for sick time. They will have to do this for 8yrs for a vehicle or 30yrs for a house.
I'm still driving the 1996 Dodge Ram 4x4 I bought new for 21K. Has 230k miles on it now. No truck payment for 23 years. Always did my own preventive maintenance. In 2015 I replaced the axles, axle bearings, metal and rubber brake lines, U-joints, shocks. 2019 seat covers, dash from LMC truck. Replaced headliner. Just last week replaced the timing chain, water pump, hoses, thermostat. Did the chain just in case and boy it was ready. This truck has been so rock solid for all these years. Simple. Reliable. Still same engine and transmission. It's getting tired, but hanging in there. They don't build them like this anymore. I have never needed or wanted a truck with all the fancy crap. I work this thing hard.
I have a 1996 Indyram since brand new, best vehicle ever. Picked up a 2001 dodge ram quad cab with the off road package, with only 62K miles last year, plan to keep it forever.
@@Alstanus you just need mechanical aptitude and patience. Good tools makes for a good end result. Doing my Dodge 5.2L engine just required a 9/16" socket or combination wrench for most bolts on the timing cover and alternator bracket. 1-1/4" socket and impact wrench to remove the harmonic balance bolt. A puller to remove the harmonic balance and the upper timing chain gear. Get the fan shroud and fan off. Fan nut was a bit tough without the special tool. I used propane torch to heat the nut a bit and then hit a adjustable wrench with a hammer and the nut broke free. It unscrews counter clockwise. Get the timing cover off along with water pump. Remove the spark plugs so easy to turn the engine by hand. Fit the harmonic balance back on enough just so you can turn engine by hand until you get the timing marks on the timing gears pointing at each other. It's dots on each gear. Remove old gears and timing chain. Hold the new chain hanging in your hand and set the gears inside the chain making sure the timing marks on the gears will be aligned when you slide the new chain set into place. Slip the chain set in place. The key slots of the new gears should fit exactly as the old gears where oriented. The timing marks (dots) should be pointed at each other. Put some red thread locker on the upper timing gear bolt and torque to about 35 foot pounds. The bolt will pull the upper gear firmly into place as you tighten it. Install a new oil seal in the timing cover. Reinstall the timing cover using new gasket and red form a gasket at the bottom reusing the half moon shaped old rubber seal that sets on the front of the oil pan. I first bolted the new water pump to the timing cover using the three bolts that don't pass through the cover so the water pump was in place as I bolted on the timing cover. Install the harmonic balance. Red Thread locker on balance bolt. 135 foot pounds torque. Go back with new radiator hoses and new thermostat. Replace that small hose at the top of the water pump. They are difficult to access later after the alternator/A/C compressor bracket is bolted in place. Might as well replace them while things are easy to access. It's not rocket science. Install new spark plugs. I marked the plug wire locations (firing order) on each wire plug so I could easily plug back the plug wires. Tip... before you install the thermostat, install the lower radiator hose, then fill the radiator until you see the antifreeze up to the hole where the thermostat sits. Then you know you've bleed air out the system. Now install the thermostat and gooseneck. Install new upper radiator hose after the fan shroud is back in place. Your truck is ready for another couple hundred thousand miles.
Bring back the MANUAL TRANSMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No electronic crap, no "assist" anything (except steering). Manual roll down windows and manual locks. Simplicity is what I want, what a lot of truck buyers want.
My daily driver is a 2017 Mazda 6, with a 6-speed manual. But other than a few Mexicans and other immigrants, a truck with a manual isn't going to sell.
I Bought a NEW Frontier SV 4WD, V6, automatic. $20,000 out the door. 130,000 miles later still runs as good as the day I picked it up. No payments for 11 years!!! Best vehicle purchase I ever made
If the the dealership collapses we better not bail them out,they have been selling us junk for years,and I own a perfect example of it,and what happen when we bailed them out back in 08.they shifted a lot of the production line out of the country,and continued to sell us junk.screw the automakers.
What's crazy is that the 2008 bailout of the automobile industry was not a bailout of the actual companies: Ford, GM, Chrysler etc. But a bailout of their financing divisions: GMAC, Ford financial etc. Car companies make more money off their loans than their car sales. Car companies are just banks that sell cars.
@@jamesbarnes9504 true, there’s way too many vin numbers on the vehicle , the engine codes etc …they are not gonna go thru the whole vehicle to do this… what will happen is the dealers will auction off this new trucks and write it off as a loss, that what they are doing now , instead of giving people a deal like they did in the past…also all they cars that leave the manufacturer are sold to the dealers , so they manufacturer only will hurt when dealers stop taking allocations…all rides that leave the factory are sold by the manufacturer, they are going to dealers that bought 5hem , they’ve got their money.
I bought a 2017 regular cab F150 4x4 XL in 2018 for 24,6xxx after financing it was around 28 and some change. I got the truck with a lifetime drivetrain warranty. That same truck today is almost double that. My truck is paid for and worth it's weight in gold to me at this point. These prices are insane.
No reason to put heavy duty parts in a truck that the software will not be serviced in 10 years. The manufacturers know these vehicles won’t be around in 15 years.
Only truck that I would trust is the Nissan Frontier. I would still go for a 2024 model though just to save a little money unless you have money coming out of your ears.
The only Stellantis vehicle I would consider is their small van -- which isn't small or cheap. Everything else is too sketchy, like the Dodge Dart. Cute car, but the dealers cannot sell them to people who have decent income/credit.
I bought a 2021 F-150 and noticed the next year they started removing little things here and there. They started charging hundreds extra for the bed lights and went from LEDs back to incandescent license plate lights. Very insulting with the prices they charge.
I’m shopping for a new at4 canyon.. there’s supposed to be improvements in 25… but this video is making sense. Crazy what they’re asking these days for poorly built vehicles.
canyon looks like just some package and option changing around in 25. and i bet the price goes up for it. Im betting the 2024 is the best way to go there as well even though there are not a ton of canyons out there.
My dad (72) still drives his 1960 Dodge Power Wagon 440ci 4 speed. Granted he doesnt commute to work, but he has had this truck since before I was born.
If it somehow wins, the tariffs, which it has no clue about - or he does and he’s just pacifying the lemmings - will obliterate the economy. I almost want it to happen so half of this country will look at themselves. Probably better themselves. But ww3 will have begun in Poland and Taiwan. Internment camps back in action… it’ll be a bloody nightmare. Oh, and he’ll destroy social security and Medicaid which the lion’s share of his cult profoundly depend on. It’s mind boggling.
I bought a 2024 Subaru Forester at the end of 23. They were already waiting for the 2025's to show up so we talked about holding off for that. After seeing the changes they made for the 2025 model, I'm REALLY glad that I went with the 2024. I'm just sorry that the 2024 was the year they dumped the CD player. I miss having one badly.
@@Jason-Samko Subaru seems to have become the car of choice for non-rural Minnesotans. They're everywhere. What won me over was seeing that they placed low on a graph comparing how much car companies jacked up their prices during Covid. Stellantis vehicles were the worst.
CD Player ! ! Seriously - a CD Player! Do you miss having an 8-track in there too? Who needs or uses CD Players? If it's music, then get with the times and burn them onto MP3's and put 'em on a USB stick. Who doesn't do that already these days. I seriously cannot understand the need for a CD Player.
The cost reduction by cheapening of parts is going on forever, it just feels that it accelerated or reached a tipping point during the pandemic. Before that cheapening worked without immediate reliability penalty. But now they are cheapening what was cheapened multiple times before and longevity and reliability taking immediate hits. That’s partly why the increase in recalls etc.
The worst is heated seats and wheel. Oh you want this cheap simple option that makes life significantly better and reduces cold idle time. Oh you need to buy the 10k luxury trim package and buy a 60k truck with leather, less seats, and nasty carpet.
@@mattbarker1411 about as luxury as AC, FM Stereo, power windows, power mirrors, and tilt wheel. Dirt cheap to do. Adds significant value to any vehicle. People in Florida don’t buy new vehicles without AC and people in Maine don’t buy new vehicles without heated seats.
The insurance is very high on New trucks and suvs.$1800 to $3000 annually. So let's say a new truck monthly payment is $1500. Insurance is $1800 per year divided in 12 months $150 per month. For a grand total of $1950 per month or $23400 per year! If you make $50000 per year that's basically almost HALF hour income going just to transportation.
That’s definitely having an impact on sales.. 54 no claims or accidents.. a24’ Sierra denali ( not ultimate) was 2750 a year!!! No freggin way… I pay 1178 a year ( up from 982) for full coverage on my 10’ Sierra Denali.
@@toddprater14 according to my insurance agent, they told me it's from a combination of un- insured drivers and SUVs on the roads. They said SUVs and pickups cause more damage in accidents. So the insurance companies get their money back one way or another. A State farm agent told me this. I'm 63 no tickets or accidents in over 40 years. My insurance was 980 the next year it was 1200 on a 11 year old Cadillac.
@@HarleyDavidsonVince yeah we’re in same boat… my trucks 14 years old.. started progressive in 2021 .. was paying 982 a year..2022 it only went up to 1012..2023 up again to 1032..then 2024 went up to 1178..this is paying full amount every April… if you choose to do monthly payments the policy is 21%% more over the year and another 60 a year for pulling payment outta bank (5 monthly transaction fee) I save 300 off policy and another 60 by paying in full…insurance is expensive enough, I try to pay the least amount possible.
I just got a cold call today from the dealer i bought my last truck from in 2014. I would love to upgrade but prices are just far too high for me, told him when they start putting 20+k on the hood to give me a call. Deals are not anywhere near good enough yet, manufactures are going to have to simply lose money if they want to move anything...
These automakers don’t get it , everything’s gone up including vehicle prices… no one can afford this stuff anymore unless you’re wealthy. Food is the new car payment
Just bought a new RAM 1500 Classic HEMI V8,black appearance package, crew cab 4x4,sport hood,black paint,console,trailer tow package,brake controller,heated steering wheel,seats, 20" wheels..It's the nice looking black appearance package (I had a 2015 night package and this is the same)..$45k out the door!! Look around you can get a deal!!
I must assume you paid cash, bought no extended warranty, no maintenance plan, no prepaid oil changes and no LoJack or road service. But you had to pay taxes and I can’t believe your total cost was $45 grand. And you bought a truck from a company getting ready to go bankrupt.
With the high inventory levels at all dealerships tells me is that “need” for trucks has fallen way back to supply. Couple with high rates and insurance. The emotional support vehicle for men is cost prohibitive.
The only way to justify a $1,000+ truck payment is 100% business use where you can expense the payment and add a mileage expense to reduce your taxable income. Other than that, if you put $1,000 a month away for retirement you can literally cut years off the time you have to work to reach your goals. It is a choice between riding around in an $80K truck now or doing whatever you want to do all day everyday when you are 55-60 years old.
@@johnhix484 no guarantee you're 80K truck will not get stolen, damaged, wrecked, or just plainly loose half it's value in a couple years. I'll place my money on long term goals rather than short term gratifications that don't hold much value.
Nice job, Jason!!! Look at the views on this video! Well done sir! And yes, just like you I believe that no vehicle is worth the price! Prices are too high, but yet the quality doesn’t match. I’m sorry I just don’t think that fancy sensors, touch screens or whatever else, are really worth it. More expensive certainly doesn’t mean more reliable either!
My 2004 Chevy Silverado is still running with 235,000 miles but it too had its problems with stupid engineering of stepper motors controlling the AC where are you have to remove the dash to replace a $50 part so I’ll just use a needle nose vice script to pitch off the heater line to stop the cab from getting hot in the summer
I'll keep my 04 Dodge Dakota. Long paid off. No cruise control, or electronics. 3.6. One ECU. Crank windows. 173,000 miles. I would still drive it anywhere.
Still driving my 2008 Silverado, paid $26,500 new…..327K miles, factory transmission…..put in a remanufactured engine at 276K for $9,900……Haven’t had a note since 2012
The auto industry as a whole is in for serious pain over the next few months. I work at tier 2 supplier. This time of year we are normally ramping up as the industry pumps out cars for the new model year. We’re idling production and furloughing employees over the next two months. In the 20+ years I’ve worked here, we’ve NEVER idled production at this time of year. Aug-Jan is the busy season. There is so much 2024 stock still sitting on lots (and even some 2023) that the industry is massively cutting back production for 2025. Orders for Sept and Oct absolutely nosedived. Down between 30-50 percent. It looks no better and in some ways worse over the next 3-4 months. I don’t know when that stabilizes and starts to come back.
BS. I've been looking at get a new 4X4 truck or Jeep to tow behind my RV for a couple of years now. The dealership all play the same bait you in game, acting like their your best friend, after hours at telling them what I want and at what price I'm willing to pay etc. Then when I finally get a written propossal their's all kind of freight, prep, BS fees tacked on, waisting hours of my time as the salesmen run back and forth to their mansgers office. I eventually walk away and then the next day they start the endless phone calls and text messages asking me to come back in etc. etc
It's important to know how to play the game and negotiate. When a person develops those skills huge deals are easy and happen all the time. The kind of deals that other claim are bs. But yet they keep happening
My every day ride is a 89 Toyota pickup I purchased used in 1995 almost 30 years ago Little 22R engine and runs like new Just regular Mantaince upkeep I’m not paying $45,000 for a midsize truck of any brand
Thank you for posting this helpful video, Jason. I'm turning in my 2023 Nissan Frontier lease in December and will purchase or lease a 2024 Nissan Frontier. I'm hoping to purchase one because the dealership should be offering amazing deals at that time.
The best superduty you can buy is a 2019 model if you can find a super low mileage garage queen. Or even better a 2020 model built in late 2019 pre covid unicorn. It’s been down hill from there.
We wanted a Gladiator when they were first released. But the msrp for a hardtop automatic was at least $45k! With roll up windows and manual locks. Never mind any WIFI! Plus no deals even worse markups! So we went from a 2016 Colorado Ext Cab 4x4,V6, to a 2019 Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, V6, both for under $35k with OnStar 4G LTE WIFI! Power windows and tow packages. But just a few months ago we started seeing discounts finally on Gladiators. So in the end of Aug. we bought a beautiful Gladiator Sport S hardtop automatic, in granite crystal metallic, with safety and convenience packages that came with heated seats and steering wheel, ACC automatic cruise control and backup protection warning and lane change warning. The only option I could not get was max tow. The MSRP was just over $51k, but we got it for $36k! A great deal for a fantastic vehicle.
I took a load of yard debris to the dump the other day. There was some guy beside me unloading. He was driving an old piece of sh** Ram dually - all beat up. I wasn’t paying close attention to what he was doing but he took off fast to get some big chucks of wood off a trailer - and even though it was an old truck that thing was a beast. That diesel seriously sounded like a bulldozer engine or something lol.
I avoid anything made post 2018. I paid off my 16 JK Rubicon 6spd that I ordered new 4.5 years ago and have been dailying it for 202k miles. Still runs like a top. I decided to retire it to summer/off-road toy duty and started looking at full size pickups to use in the winters and for towing and hauling. Ended up buying a super clean, well cared for 17 Ram 2500 Big Horn the other weekend. It seemed way better built than the newer trucks that were more than 2 or 3x times as expensive. Splitting the mileage between the two now will hopefully mean I’ll have both for years to come at a fraction of the price. All these cost cuts and glitchy new tech is for the birds. A truck just needs to be a truck.
I am going a step further. I am keeping my old car. I would feel like a fool walking into a dealer paying these prices. Then I would get hit with higher insurance costs too.
@@ztotheu2974 I'm happy being stuck with my 14 year old Nissan, not showing one fault on my scanner, it has a great 6 speed manual they can keep there junk CVT.
Nice idea, but…….. I have been wanting a truck for years. Things are finally aligned so I can buy one. Have decided to go with an F-150 “STX”. It seems simple but I want the STX with 5.0 V8 and the max towing package and the “office” package so it has 110 volt outlets. And want the towing mirrors. No dealers in my area stock F-150’s with towing mirrors, and adding them seems to be somewhere between $1,000 and $2,000 (not sure). I have looked online at 15 or 20 dealers and none have exactly my setup even without the tow mirrors. I think I will special order exactly what I want, which at this point will be a 2025. My area seems to be running advertised discounts around $4,000 which I’ll probably miss - but I’ll get exactly what I want in a truck I expect to keep 15 years.
@@davep4610 You can buy an small inverter like someone purchases for a boat way cheaper than the dealer option. Get a small 1800 watt inverter and mount it someplace easily accessed.
2025 Nissan Frontier is being discounted already in the Northeast. It’s the truck I’m currently watching. Maybe I will get one in the first quarter of next year. It’s had a few nice updates as you know. 3.39% financing on the Frontier right now too. We’ll see if that financing sticks around.
The bmw is getting stupid. 4 banger 55k (5 series) to get what used it be the standard option 6 cylinder is 75k. And the actual control buttons and knobs are disappearing. The 6 is a higher package now. Wonder if for 90 k you can get the buttons and knobs back
You're right on this! I got my 2024 Ram 2500 back in May for $18,000 off msrp! It had around $10,000 worth of options and with the discounts I ended up paying exactly what the Base Price was on the window sticker! Crazy times we're in right now.
@leeowens1598 Yessir! Ilike your Gladiator brother! I love jeeps, I just bought my wife a 2024 Wrangler Sahara in Tuscadero Pearlcoat Pink! Lol. The Gladiators really grew on me because at first I didn't like them. Weird how that happens...
Just bought a new RAM 1500 Classic HEMI V8,black appearance package, crew cab 4x4,sport hood,black paint,console,trailer tow package,brake controller,heated steering wheels,seats 20" wheels ,black package (night package)..$45k out the door!!
I still can't understand how RAM though dumping their V8 option was a wise move, should've kept it in the lineup for a couple more years as an option while they see how the new Hurricane engine pans out. I can't wait until my 2017 V8 Ram receives the treatment that a V8 Tundra gets from dealerships, I won't trade my truck in though she's well maintained and I intend to keep it until either I die or some idiot smashes into it (and I may just fix it in that case).
My work bought a 23 escape hybrid. It had 6000 miles on it when i drove it through about 8 inchs of flood water. It fried, had to have it towed, 7000 damage, no warranty because i drove it through water! New wiring harness and battery.😡
I don't see Nissan doing that. In fact they made more things standard on the 2025 frontier and the new refresh has some meaningful upgrades which I could not avoid if I were in the market. The frontier has the same old F-Alpha box frame that is built like a tank at the same old Canton Plant in Mississippi. There really is only one thing they took away and that is the bed rails on the floor. They deleted those in 2022 and one might also say they dropped the roof rack on the Pro 4X premium package. But those items do not make the truck less capable or less reliable. Not like how oems like Toyota purposely under-built the underpinnings to beef up margins. I don't see that crap from Nissan. Not even remotely so.
nissan frontier is agreat truck. but odnt let them fool you. They are all playing these games. pro4x added very little in the refresh and went up 3500 bucks for 2025. Great updates, 100% but at almost a 10% increase in msrp and a vow to not has as much inventory so that deals are harder to get in 2025.
@@Jason-Samko Maybe. But my dealer has 58 on the ground. I'm pretty sure I could get at least 2500 or more off MSRP if I were in the market. OEM's are cutting back production but inventories are still up. I think everything before the elections is in limbo. House sales are flat as well as auto. People don't know what to expect and many are already stretched on too much debt. Mass layoffs are just beginning to take off. If anything I would hold off buying until the end of the year or Jan 31 which is a good time before tax season. Look at the new tacos. Brand new generation but they have to already discount them which is unheard of for the mighty Yota.
grab a 2025 SV or an s and actually use it for work like I'm doing I run my pressure cleaning and window cleaning business off a Nissan Frontiers now for 21 years
@@kenkneedee Maybe so but 20-25 percent of frontiers are built as P4X's. My dealer has tons of SV's and P4X's in just about any color you want lol. I don't recall ever seeing that much inventory (58 trucks) at anytime/any year. People have quit buying new and that's affecting all brands. I'm seeing most dealers moving their used inventory up front and center just to sell something to pay the bills.
I was at the dealer Tuesday dropping my Sierra off for warranty work and the lot was PACKED full of trucks. Could be that people are finally backing off due to the price or it could also be the fact that reliability and quality has taken a nose dive. Not to mention if you do have an issue it's sometimes weeks wait for parts.
I have 150k on my Hyundai Elantra, its been fantastic. Its an 18. The 2.5 in the Tucson and Santa Cruz hasnt had a recall...id buy another Hyundai in a second.
I have a 2017 F-150 with 2.7 motor. 193k running mint! I will only buys 2017 or older. As a business owner and electrician I don’t trust anything newer than 2020. Seen and heard waaayyyy too many problems!
Jason, you are doing excellent work here brother. Eventually I’d like to have you appear in one of my documentaries. You know a lot about the ground level information that many don’t know about. I appreciate that. I really liked your last Toyota video and where you showed Tacoma after Tacoma. I wish I would have seen that before I made my Toyota documentary! 😂 Dealers around me aren’t discounting any of their older models either. There are NEW 2023 models still that they won’t discount. Not many but they are there. Always a pleasure Jason, keep up the great work brother. -Brandon 🫡
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Yep no deals on the 23s here either. they are like gold for the dealers. Will check out your channel when I get a few mins.
When accountants can override engineers' designs to save a nickel, that product is trash... hence our current situation. Back inn the day gm changed shock suppliers from a good comp with good product to a cheaper crap shock thst was HALF A PENNY cheaper per shock. Saved 2 cents per truck and gave customers a crap product. 1 mill trucks sold so saving 20k was more important than a good product.
Even when they add something good (like Badlands pkg in Bronco Sport) they force you to then deal with a new entirely digital dash. Which will only give you issues down the road.
I won't buy any vehicle that invades my privacy. That means no GM products. They can report you to your insurance company. Hard pass. I don't know about the rest but I don't trust any of them.
gm is actually the only one that has now vowed not to sell that data. Becuase they got caught, yes. But all the others are still doing it as they have not got in trouble for it yet.
Me too. I bought a '19 F-150 Lariat V8 as my last new vehicle. Great discount, pre-Covid, pre-cylinder deactivation. It should be among the old ones that last. It still has tech that worries me long-term but it's better than the newest ones for it's chance of lasting. My Ford mechanic told me the new ones will not last because of the tech. The wire-wrapping, particularly. He's 60 like I am. This guy has the same idea, so i watched his videos.
TCR (technical Cost Reduction)...bwhaha....more like the real term enshitification...everything from washing machines/toasters to ball point pens is fully enshitified nowadays.
What's crazy is that the 2008 bailout of the automobile industry was not a bailout of the actual companies: Ford, GM, Chrysler etc. But a bailout of their financing divisions: GMAC, Ford financial etc. Car companies make more money off their loans than their car sales. Car companies are just banks that sell cars.
@@Jason-Samko - I didn’t know that but it sounds excessive to me. I just replaced the ignition switch in my ‘94 B3000. It still runs great. I don’t really need a fancy new truck.
The sky high prices on these new cars/trucks is pushing the cost of used too the top of peak and holding! I think there will be a correction like real estate. Has to be!
I just want a naturally aspirated (non turbo non supercharged) 6 cylinder, non cvt, non hybrid, non full of electronics, comfortable american car.....thats all I want
I’m not buying anything until the Summer, so I’m hoping trucks continue sitting on lots. The used market needs to keep falling as well. These dealers want to have their cake and eat it too.
Yeah the bs is getting out of control.... Ive been contemplating selling my 23 Raptor for a next gen 37 Raptor (Im hoping for big changes in response to the RHO). But with alot of item deletions, tracking junk and large bumps in $$$ for less, Im most likely going to pass.
@@toddprater14 Your point? I also have a 22 year old truck... If the new Raptor is a big upgrade I'll buy it, I know my finances and its not like I'll take a huge loss when if I sell it.
I wouldn't say no leather is a not as much of a downgrade as one might initially think. One, the leather interiors are only partial in that only certain areas are upholstered in leather. Two, the leatherette (vinyl) fabric is easier to clear and will like wear a lot longer (assuming it is of good quality). The bad part, in my opinion, is that they probably didn't reduce the price (I'm not sure what the real price differential is). There is a a Lariat in my neck of the woods that is being advertised with an $8216 discount ($4000 of which is the rebate) and a $68,030 MSRP. Still a long ways away from the $12,000 off a 2019 F150 XLT (302a) pickup I got. I'd think 10% off the MSRP would be reasonable and attainable? Thoughts?
Yep I'm not a fan of leather at all and would never buy a lariat trim when there is a perfectly good xlt trim available. Agree 100% that any truck available today should be able to be had for a minimum of 10% off. Minimum.
Anything built after 2010 is JUNK, I've been a mechanic for 40 years, Boggles the mind how the EPA has destroyed the diesel engine, and turned the gas engine into a pile of unreliable garbage.
True. But great gm is doing that. So many people today will never put a truck in 4 low and don't even know how to. Better to save them money and give them a single speed if they only want or need a single speed
My 2 cents. The 25 frontier is a nice refresh but at a cost over the 24. Drive both and see how important the chahges are for you. There is about a 7-8k difference between current deals on a 24 and current deals on a 25 frontier
@@Jason-Samko you can get a Frontier for 4 grand off in Raleigh on the '25s and and they are not offering any more for the 24's which already has a years worth of depreciation on it. Even 4 grand off is not good enough for me...I can wait,.check again in February. I want the new orange color.
Who said anything about 15k off a 37k vehicle? Unless you are talking about the bronco sport. That you could get deals on with 12k off a couple months ago. Made a video all about it
The 2025 Ford Expedition Tremor with the split tailgate & lift gate (like the old Land Rovers and Land Cruisers) might be an exception. I’m drooling over that, but I don’t have whatever $$,$$$ they’re going to be charging for it. I’ll probably end up with a used 2023 F-150 FX4 or Tremor.
Hey, man. Good morning, my name is Francisco I got a question for you said you have a Jeep Gladiator right with the 3.6 , My question is, is your engine making? All kind of weird noises cause mine is. I have a 22 grand Cherokee. O and the engine. Just makes all kinds of weird noises. Is that normal and the 3.6 It's rottles at lower rmp going up hill , It also rattles when you're about to stop, And? It makes other weird noise when it's just idling.But it only does it for like two seconds and then it goes away. Please. Let me know if you are having the same noit's to see if it's normal or not
@funnymoments84 i don't get any weird nosies unless I'm lugging it. Meaning if I'm pulling a trailer or in thick mud in 4 high and thr engine is fighting because of the gear I'm in I will get some spark nock like sounds for a second before the time catches up.
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No turbo. No hybrids. No def. No tracking. No options.
Wish list:
V8
chevy and for still have great v8s. But agree 100% on the direction everything going is upsetting.
me to V8 engines for life.
I would probably still do a 6.4 Hemi right now
Get an afm chip or delete the v8 afm stuff
@@coletsonchoke You’re saying AMF to AFM? 😂
You are not buying a pickup. You are buying a $70k yellow check engine light with cheap metal and plastic attached to it.
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True its sad
@@atomicvagrant7686 But then, isn’t that what life is; just running around in a pickup truck, making large, gushing cash and still feeling cheap.
CHEVY WAY TO GO
The sad thing is it's not people saying "We will not pay these prices".. no, it's the banks saying "we won't finance these prices". Your average American car or truck buyer will pay any price at any rate for any length of terms so long as they think they can afford the payment.
Very true.
Exactly why they are AVERAGE!
Yes this here because the idiots have already been serviced. Now the sane people are waiting
@@jonathantaylor6926 agree
even if they can't afford the payments, as long as the bank says yes they will get it, the same with a house. They don't care that they will have to take every promotion at work, work 20hrs of overtime every week, without missing any weeks for sick time. They will have to do this for 8yrs for a vehicle or 30yrs for a house.
Avoid all 2025 models? Absolutely agree.
The best time to be at a dealership when their closed. 😂😂
It's peaceful now customers wandering around as I film etc
I'm still driving the 1996 Dodge Ram 4x4 I bought new for 21K. Has 230k miles on it now. No truck payment for 23 years. Always did my own preventive maintenance. In 2015 I replaced the axles, axle bearings, metal and rubber brake lines, U-joints, shocks. 2019 seat covers, dash from LMC truck. Replaced headliner. Just last week replaced the timing chain, water pump, hoses, thermostat. Did the chain just in case and boy it was ready. This truck has been so rock solid for all these years. Simple. Reliable. Still same engine and transmission. It's getting tired, but hanging in there. They don't build them like this anymore. I have never needed or wanted a truck with all the fancy crap. I work this thing hard.
I have a 1996 Indyram since brand new, best vehicle ever. Picked up a 2001 dodge ram quad cab with the off road package, with only 62K miles last year, plan to keep it forever.
Love it. Congrats, man. Wish I had those kind of skills.
@@Alstanus you just need mechanical aptitude and patience. Good tools makes for a good end result. Doing my Dodge 5.2L engine just required a 9/16" socket or combination wrench for most bolts on the timing cover and alternator bracket. 1-1/4" socket and impact wrench to remove the harmonic balance bolt. A puller to remove the harmonic balance and the upper timing chain gear. Get the fan shroud and fan off. Fan nut was a bit tough without the special tool. I used propane torch to heat the nut a bit and then hit a adjustable wrench with a hammer and the nut broke free. It unscrews counter clockwise. Get the timing cover off along with water pump. Remove the spark plugs so easy to turn the engine by hand. Fit the harmonic balance back on enough just so you can turn engine by hand until you get the timing marks on the timing gears pointing at each other. It's dots on each gear. Remove old gears and timing chain. Hold the new chain hanging in your hand and set the gears inside the chain making sure the timing marks on the gears will be aligned when you slide the new chain set into place. Slip the chain set in place. The key slots of the new gears should fit exactly as the old gears where oriented. The timing marks (dots) should be pointed at each other. Put some red thread locker on the upper timing gear bolt and torque to about 35 foot pounds. The bolt will pull the upper gear firmly into place as you tighten it. Install a new oil seal in the timing cover. Reinstall the timing cover using new gasket and red form a gasket at the bottom reusing the half moon shaped old rubber seal that sets on the front of the oil pan. I first bolted the new water pump to the timing cover using the three bolts that don't pass through the cover so the water pump was in place as I bolted on the timing cover. Install the harmonic balance. Red Thread locker on balance bolt. 135 foot pounds torque. Go back with new radiator hoses and new thermostat. Replace that small hose at the top of the water pump. They are difficult to access later after the alternator/A/C compressor bracket is bolted in place. Might as well replace them while things are easy to access. It's not rocket science. Install new spark plugs. I marked the plug wire locations (firing order) on each wire plug so I could easily plug back the plug wires. Tip... before you install the thermostat, install the lower radiator hose, then fill the radiator until you see the antifreeze up to the hole where the thermostat sits. Then you know you've bleed air out the system. Now install the thermostat and gooseneck. Install new upper radiator hose after the fan shroud is back in place. Your truck is ready for another couple hundred thousand miles.
That’s wild low miles for having a truck that long. I’ve done that much in 10 years.
Same with my 95 ford f2fiddy ext cab 460 efi 4x4 hell yeah !!!!!!
No DEF.
No Cheap touchscreens controlling everything.
No driver tracking.
Any late 90's early 2000's truck is where it's at.
Give me a extended cab or single cab regular truck, I don't care if it had roll up windows
A good old reliable 1995 ford 7.3 diesel manual will run for ever
I got 1991 ford ranger 2.3 5 speed still going very strong
Yep 🎉
03 Frontier serves me 🎉🎉🎉 hahaha a baby doll 🎉🎉🎉
Bring back the MANUAL TRANSMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No electronic crap, no "assist" anything (except steering). Manual roll down windows and manual locks. Simplicity is what I want, what a lot of truck buyers want.
My daily driver is a 2017 Mazda 6, with a 6-speed manual. But other than a few Mexicans and other immigrants, a truck with a manual isn't going to sell.
Amen!
I agree but those days are long gone unfortunately
Manual roll down windows, come on man. I understand what your saying but lmao
The fact they want $40k for a Bronco Sport?!? 🤯
😂
and also the reason you can buy it for 12k off. people are not playing these games anymore.
higher for a Ranger than Tacoma
I know it's only a 3 and a half cycleder made in MEXICO
How many people bought the sport when it came thinking its "The" bronco with all the hype only to find out it wasnt?
I Bought a NEW Frontier SV 4WD, V6, automatic. $20,000 out the door. 130,000 miles later still runs as good as the day I picked it up. No payments for 11 years!!! Best vehicle purchase I ever made
perfect
Just bought one myself. Aside from having to disable the auto engine stop I love it
My 2022 didn't come with autostop@@modernrustics5069
If the the dealership collapses we better not bail them out,they have been selling us junk for years,and I own a perfect example of it,and what happen when we bailed them out back in 08.they shifted a lot of the production line out of the country,and continued to sell us junk.screw the automakers.
Nah, you will bail them out and then you will buy any junk they have in place. All you do is crying over yt.
Nope not paying 40k+
What's crazy is that the 2008 bailout of the automobile industry was not a bailout of the actual companies: Ford, GM, Chrysler etc. But a bailout of their financing divisions: GMAC, Ford financial etc. Car companies make more money off their loans than their car sales. Car companies are just banks that sell cars.
I wonder if the unsold 2022s and 2023s will be rebadged as 2025s? Better check vins.
They can’t do that it’s illegal
@@toddprater14Since when have car companies and car dealers worried about the law?
@@jamesbarnes9504 true, there’s way too many vin numbers on the vehicle , the engine codes etc …they are not gonna go thru the whole vehicle to do this… what will happen is the dealers will auction off this new trucks and write it off as a loss, that what they are doing now , instead of giving people a deal like they did in the past…also all they cars that leave the manufacturer are sold to the dealers , so they manufacturer only will hurt when dealers stop taking allocations…all rides that leave the factory are sold by the manufacturer, they are going to dealers that bought 5hem , they’ve got their money.
Youre right buuuuut if theres money to be made... dont put it past them. @toddprater14
I bought a 2017 regular cab F150 4x4 XL in 2018 for 24,6xxx after financing it was around 28 and some change.
I got the truck with a lifetime drivetrain warranty.
That same truck today is almost double that. My truck is paid for and worth it's weight in gold to me at this point. These prices are insane.
Very true
There's just no value for your dollar out there right now. 🙋
very true
Its called inflation and just might get worse!
@@vcash1112 it sucks 😞
It's called Bidenflation
The dollar was crash soon.
The number ONE thing stopping people from gaining wealth is sitting in their driveways/garages.
That IS one of the biggest reasons.
Go kick rocks
But people need transportation. It's mandatory. And if bought right should not cost much
That's just a reflection of their incompetence with finaces
💯👍🇺🇲
No reason to put heavy duty parts in a truck that the software will not be serviced in 10 years. The manufacturers know these vehicles won’t be around in 15 years.
Yep they are making them as cheap as they can to increase profits.
Absolutely! (Auto tech 40+ years) throw away society, if it can be fixed, it will be so expensive, most will pass
@@TheJohnbjunior Planned obsolescence.
Please explain about the software? What is going to happen in its 15 years?
Only truck that I would trust is the Nissan Frontier. I would still go for a 2024 model though just to save a little money unless you have money coming out of your ears.
That’s what I’m looking at
I just got mine. 2024 Frontier sv. MSRP 39640. Got it for 31400. Crew cab two wheel drive. Love it. Paid cash.
Everything under the Stellantis umbrella is el junko as well as Ford .
The only Stellantis vehicle I would consider is their small van -- which isn't small or cheap. Everything else is too sketchy, like the Dodge Dart. Cute car, but the dealers cannot sell them to people who have decent income/credit.
I bought a 2021 F-150 and noticed the next year they started removing little things here and there. They started charging hundreds extra for the bed lights and went from LEDs back to incandescent license plate lights. Very insulting with the prices they charge.
@kdw75 very true. They call it technical cost reduction
I was told not to buy a 2024, but I bought a Silverado and I am thrilled with it.
I’m shopping for a new at4 canyon.. there’s supposed to be improvements in 25… but this video is making sense. Crazy what they’re asking these days for poorly built vehicles.
canyon looks like just some package and option changing around in 25. and i bet the price goes up for it. Im betting the 2024 is the best way to go there as well even though there are not a ton of canyons out there.
My dad (72) still drives his 1960 Dodge Power Wagon 440ci 4 speed. Granted he doesnt commute to work, but he has had this truck since before I was born.
Outstanding
....and doesn't live in the rust belt.
That sunset is awesome...
I will keep my 2002 Suburban its bullet proof super reliable built to last
Maybe Trump will remove Bidens EV mandates. Then Toyota will refresh the Tacoma & 4runner with a V6 engine.
That's were it starts if you can get the dem loving people to vote with their heads and use common sense for a change.
Treasonous traitorous Trump, the fascist felonious chump.
If it somehow wins, the tariffs, which it has no clue about - or he does and he’s just pacifying the lemmings - will obliterate the economy. I almost want it to happen so half of this country will look at themselves. Probably better themselves. But ww3 will have begun in Poland and Taiwan.
Internment camps back in action… it’ll be a bloody nightmare.
Oh, and he’ll destroy social security and Medicaid which the lion’s share of his cult profoundly depend on. It’s mind boggling.
@@moveitback1damn you democrats are stupid. You got us in this mess and still want 4 more years of it.
Elon wont allow it
I bought a 2024 Subaru Forester at the end of 23. They were already waiting for the 2025's to show up so we talked about holding off for that. After seeing the changes they made for the 2025 model, I'm REALLY glad that I went with the 2024.
I'm just sorry that the 2024 was the year they dumped the CD player. I miss having one badly.
congrats on an amazing suv!
@@Jason-Samko Subaru seems to have become the car of choice for non-rural Minnesotans. They're everywhere.
What won me over was seeing that they placed low on a graph comparing how much car companies jacked up their prices during Covid. Stellantis vehicles were the worst.
CD Player ! ! Seriously - a CD Player! Do you miss having an 8-track in there too? Who needs or uses CD Players? If it's music, then get with the times and burn them onto MP3's and put 'em on a USB stick. Who doesn't do that already these days. I seriously cannot understand the need for a CD Player.
@@riseabove3082 Lessee, near lossless audio compared to mp3, CDs don't require network connection, CDs are dirt cheap (eBay), etc.
@@riseabove3082Your inability to understand what I want is not my problem, bud.
Plastic single-use oil pan and wet, oil pump-driven internal rubber belts? No, thanks. That’s an insult to the customers.
abuse of customers
The cost reduction by cheapening of parts is going on forever, it just feels that it accelerated or reached a tipping point during the pandemic. Before that cheapening worked without immediate reliability penalty. But now they are cheapening what was cheapened multiple times before and longevity and reliability taking immediate hits. That’s partly why the increase in recalls etc.
True
The worst is heated seats and wheel. Oh you want this cheap simple option that makes life significantly better and reduces cold idle time. Oh you need to buy the 10k luxury trim package and buy a 60k truck with leather, less seats, and nasty carpet.
@@jrhunt414 very true
Yeah I'd outlaw bundling. And allow direct sales
Heated seats are a luxury option.....
@@mattbarker1411 about as luxury as AC, FM Stereo, power windows, power mirrors, and tilt wheel. Dirt cheap to do. Adds significant value to any vehicle. People in Florida don’t buy new vehicles without AC and people in Maine don’t buy new vehicles without heated seats.
2024 GMC AT4 Sierras almost all bought up.
Have this in 2018. Love this truck.
Low Quality, High Price = No Sale.
The insurance is very high on New trucks and suvs.$1800 to $3000 annually. So let's say a new truck monthly payment is $1500. Insurance is $1800 per year divided in 12 months $150 per month. For a grand total of $1950 per month or $23400 per year! If you make $50000 per year that's basically almost HALF hour income going just to transportation.
That’s definitely having an impact on sales.. 54 no claims or accidents.. a24’ Sierra denali ( not ultimate) was 2750 a year!!! No freggin way… I pay 1178 a year ( up from 982) for full coverage on my 10’ Sierra Denali.
@@toddprater14 according to my insurance agent, they told me it's from a combination of un- insured drivers and SUVs on the roads. They said SUVs and pickups cause more damage in accidents. So the insurance companies get their money back one way or another. A State farm agent told me this. I'm 63 no tickets or accidents in over 40 years. My insurance was 980 the next year it was 1200 on a 11 year old Cadillac.
@@HarleyDavidsonVince yeah we’re in same boat… my trucks 14 years old.. started progressive in 2021 .. was paying 982 a year..2022 it only went up to 1012..2023 up again to 1032..then 2024 went up to 1178..this is paying full amount every April… if you choose to do monthly payments the policy is 21%% more over the year and another 60 a year for pulling payment outta bank (5 monthly transaction fee) I save 300 off policy and another 60 by paying in full…insurance is expensive enough, I try to pay the least amount possible.
I say that they should Scrap them all and tell these companies to start over with quality in mind then price.
Would be nice
To “afford” a 84k SUV. Gross household income needs to be 250k/ year.
Just bought a 25 AT4 2500 HD V8 gas no AFM love it, 3000 off and 5.9% thru gm...not really 24's left at gmc
@jimchauvin7958 well done and congratulations on a great truck
@@Jason-Samko thank you!
I just got a cold call today from the dealer i bought my last truck from in 2014. I would love to upgrade but prices are just far too high for me, told him when they start putting 20+k on the hood to give me a call. Deals are not anywhere near good enough yet, manufactures are going to have to simply lose money if they want to move anything...
These automakers don’t get it , everything’s gone up including vehicle prices… no one can afford this stuff anymore unless you’re wealthy.
Food is the new car payment
Just bought a new RAM 1500 Classic HEMI V8,black appearance package, crew cab 4x4,sport hood,black paint,console,trailer tow package,brake controller,heated steering wheel,seats, 20" wheels..It's the nice looking black appearance package (I had a 2015 night package and this is the same)..$45k out the door!! Look around you can get a deal!!
Congratulations on a great teuck and price
I must assume you paid cash, bought no extended warranty, no maintenance plan, no prepaid oil changes and no LoJack or road service. But you had to pay taxes and I can’t believe your total cost was $45 grand. And you bought a truck from a company getting ready to go bankrupt.
Dodge no good
@@douglasjenner5064 yet id buy ram all day everyday
@@johnhix484 i dont think hes worried about what you assume he did or if you believe his total cost.
With the high inventory levels at all dealerships tells me is that “need” for trucks has fallen way back to supply. Couple with high rates and insurance. The emotional support vehicle for men is cost prohibitive.
The only way to justify a $1,000+ truck payment is 100% business use where you can expense the payment and add a mileage expense to reduce your taxable income. Other than that, if you put $1,000 a month away for retirement you can literally cut years off the time you have to work to reach your goals. It is a choice between riding around in an $80K truck now or doing whatever you want to do all day everyday when you are 55-60 years old.
No guarantee one will last to 55 or even wake up tomorrow.
@@johnhix484 no guarantee you're 80K truck will not get stolen, damaged, wrecked, or just plainly loose half it's value in a couple years.
I'll place my money on long term goals rather than short term gratifications that don't hold much value.
@@johnhix484 100% guaranteed foolish spending during working years = broke, homeless, and eating dog food if you make it to older age.
Nice job, Jason!!! Look at the views on this video! Well done sir!
And yes, just like you I believe that no vehicle is worth the price!
Prices are too high, but yet the quality doesn’t match.
I’m sorry I just don’t think that fancy sensors, touch screens or whatever else, are really worth it.
More expensive certainly doesn’t mean more reliable either!
@@KevinEdge81 agree 100% on all points
My 2004 Chevy Silverado is still running with 235,000 miles but it too had its problems with stupid engineering of stepper motors controlling the AC where are you have to remove the dash to replace a $50 part so I’ll just use a needle nose vice script to pitch off the heater line to stop the cab from getting hot in the summer
loaded nissan Frontier north of 50k now = greed nevermind tax title and insurance
Agree
Glad im sitting on 3 nice 90s silverados. Im good.
I'll keep my 04 Dodge Dakota. Long paid off. No cruise control, or electronics. 3.6. One ECU. Crank windows. 173,000 miles. I would still drive it anywhere.
Still driving my 2008 Silverado, paid $26,500 new…..327K miles, factory transmission…..put in a remanufactured engine at 276K for $9,900……Haven’t had a note since 2012
@@bayoustateoutdoors9650 perfect
I agree. We need to come together and not buy for a while to get these OEMs to lower the prices.
The auto industry as a whole is in for serious pain over the next few months. I work at tier 2 supplier. This time of year we are normally ramping up as the industry pumps out cars for the new model year. We’re idling production and furloughing employees over the next two months. In the 20+ years I’ve worked here, we’ve NEVER idled production at this time of year. Aug-Jan is the busy season. There is so much 2024 stock still sitting on lots (and even some 2023) that the industry is massively cutting back production for 2025.
Orders for Sept and Oct absolutely nosedived. Down between 30-50 percent. It looks no better and in some ways worse over the next 3-4 months. I don’t know when that stabilizes and starts to come back.
Yep. And this inventory overload is great for us consumers ready to buy. But very sorry to hear that your work flow has been idled.
When they go back to fair pricing.
BS. I've been looking at get a new 4X4 truck or Jeep to tow behind my RV for a couple of years now. The dealership all play the same bait you in game, acting like their your best friend, after hours at telling them what I want and at what price I'm willing to pay etc. Then when I finally get a written propossal their's all kind of freight, prep, BS fees tacked on, waisting hours of my time as the salesmen run back and forth to their mansgers office. I eventually walk away and then the next day they start the endless phone calls and text messages asking me to come back in etc. etc
It's important to know how to play the game and negotiate. When a person develops those skills huge deals are easy and happen all the time. The kind of deals that other claim are bs. But yet they keep happening
My every day ride is a 89 Toyota pickup I purchased used in 1995 almost 30 years ago
Little 22R engine and runs like new Just regular Mantaince upkeep
I’m not paying $45,000 for a midsize truck of any brand
Thank you for posting this helpful video, Jason. I'm turning in my 2023 Nissan Frontier lease in December and will purchase or lease a 2024 Nissan Frontier. I'm hoping to purchase one because the dealership should be offering amazing deals at that time.
Great choice. The 24 frontier will offer some great deals and be about an 8k savings over thr 2025 frontier even with deals.
On the 2024 Ford Super Duty's, is $10,000 to $12,000 off a great deal on a one year old $84,000 truck?
I would personally expect a minimum of 10% off any vehicle made today. But on a 84k truck Id be shooting for 20% in todays market. 15% minimum
The best superduty you can buy is a 2019 model if you can find a super low mileage garage queen. Or even better a 2020 model built in late 2019 pre covid unicorn. It’s been down hill from there.
@@Eyez85 agree
We wanted a Gladiator when they were first released. But the msrp for a hardtop automatic was at least $45k! With roll up windows and manual locks. Never mind any WIFI! Plus no deals even worse markups! So we went from a 2016 Colorado Ext Cab 4x4,V6, to a 2019 Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, V6, both for under $35k with OnStar 4G LTE WIFI! Power windows and tow packages. But just a few months ago we started seeing discounts finally on Gladiators. So in the end of Aug. we bought a beautiful Gladiator Sport S hardtop automatic, in granite crystal metallic, with safety and convenience packages that came with heated seats and steering wheel, ACC automatic cruise control and backup protection warning and lane change warning. The only option I could not get was max tow. The MSRP was just over $51k, but we got it for $36k! A great deal for a fantastic vehicle.
Outstanding! And a great truck
Dude, the sky in your video is amazing.
Georgia skies are always full of color. dont know why but moved here from michigan 2 years ago and the skies still amaze me.
@@Jason-Samkohow you like Georgia? Was considering moving next year
@Tearflavoredcereal love it. Sportsman's paradise and rhe friendliest people I've ever seen. And the weather is outstanding
I took a load of yard debris to the dump the other day. There was some guy beside me unloading. He was driving an old piece of sh** Ram dually - all beat up. I wasn’t paying close attention to what he was doing but he took off fast to get some big chucks of wood off a trailer - and even though it was an old truck that thing was a beast. That diesel seriously sounded like a bulldozer engine or something lol.
@@Encourageable back when they were built to last and built to work
I avoid anything made post 2018. I paid off my 16 JK Rubicon 6spd that I ordered new 4.5 years ago and have been dailying it for 202k miles. Still runs like a top. I decided to retire it to summer/off-road toy duty and started looking at full size pickups to use in the winters and for towing and hauling. Ended up buying a super clean, well cared for 17 Ram 2500 Big Horn the other weekend. It seemed way better built than the newer trucks that were more than 2 or 3x times as expensive. Splitting the mileage between the two now will hopefully mean I’ll have both for years to come at a fraction of the price. All these cost cuts and glitchy new tech is for the birds. A truck just needs to be a truck.
I am going a step further. I am keeping my old car. I would feel like a fool walking into a dealer paying these prices. Then I would get hit with higher insurance costs too.
All the new trucks are junk. I would buy the Nissan Frontier V6
Just Traded my AFM 5.3 Sierra in on one, After 40 yrs of loyalty I'm done w/GM.
Yeah but then you're stuck driving a Nissan 😅
What a dumb comment, What exactly is your point ? I guess quality and reliability isn't your thing. @ztotheu2974
@@ztotheu2974 I'm happy being stuck with my 14 year old Nissan, not showing one fault on my scanner, it has a great 6 speed manual they can keep there junk CVT.
F-250, 6.2 Boss V8
Nissan 5.6L
Frontier
My local toyota dealer keeps their inventory lot empty so it appears to be low inventory.
Nice idea, but…….. I have been wanting a truck for years. Things are finally aligned so I can buy one. Have decided to go with an F-150 “STX”. It seems simple but I want the STX with 5.0 V8 and the max towing package and the “office” package so it has 110 volt outlets. And want the towing mirrors. No dealers in my area stock F-150’s with towing mirrors, and adding them seems to be somewhere between $1,000 and $2,000 (not sure). I have looked online at 15 or 20 dealers and none have exactly my setup even without the tow mirrors. I think I will special order exactly what I want, which at this point will be a 2025. My area seems to be running advertised discounts around $4,000 which I’ll probably miss - but I’ll get exactly what I want in a truck I expect to keep 15 years.
Yep sometimes it's hard to find what you want or need and no choice but to custom order
@@davep4610 You can buy an small inverter like someone purchases for a boat way cheaper than the dealer option. Get a small 1800 watt inverter and mount it someplace easily accessed.
No tech! Save 30% on your truck! Make it a real truck!
Exactly right!
My dealer offered me a trade in for my 2023 Toyota Tacoma trd pro for any 2024 Tacoma models brand new ! Crazy
@@appleztooranges crazy times
@@Jason-Samko would you trade it if even swap? And I didn’t pay anything to dealer? The 3rd gen are highly asked for
2025 Nissan Frontier is being discounted already in the Northeast. It’s the truck I’m currently watching. Maybe I will get one in the first quarter of next year. It’s had a few nice updates as you know. 3.39% financing on the Frontier right now too. We’ll see if that financing sticks around.
@@downforwhatever67 good to see. Hope they make enough inventory so the deals hit well soon
The bmw is getting stupid. 4 banger 55k (5 series) to get what used it be the standard option 6 cylinder is 75k. And the actual control buttons and knobs are disappearing.
The 6 is a higher package now. Wonder if for 90 k you can get the buttons and knobs back
Just got my 2024 Frontier SV. 39600 msrp. Got it for 31400. No add ons from the dealership just tax, tag, and doc fees.
Outstanding
You're right on this! I got my 2024 Ram 2500 back in May for $18,000 off msrp! It had around $10,000 worth of options and with the discounts I ended up paying exactly what the Base Price was on the window sticker! Crazy times we're in right now.
A Gteat Deal.
@leeowens1598 Yessir! Ilike your Gladiator brother! I love jeeps, I just bought my wife a 2024 Wrangler Sahara in Tuscadero Pearlcoat Pink! Lol. The Gladiators really grew on me because at first I didn't like them. Weird how that happens...
Just bought a new RAM 1500 Classic HEMI V8,black appearance package, crew cab 4x4,sport hood,black paint,console,trailer tow package,brake controller,heated steering wheels,seats 20" wheels ,black package (night package)..$45k out the door!!
Very well done on an outstanding truck
@@MikeekiM-vh5seWhere?, at leat show us invoice pls.
I still can't understand how RAM though dumping their V8 option was a wise move, should've kept it in the lineup for a couple more years as an option while they see how the new Hurricane engine pans out. I can't wait until my 2017 V8 Ram receives the treatment that a V8 Tundra gets from dealerships, I won't trade my truck in though she's well maintained and I intend to keep it until either I die or some idiot smashes into it (and I may just fix it in that case).
My work bought a 23 escape hybrid. It had 6000 miles on it when i drove it through about 8 inchs of flood water. It fried, had to have it towed, 7000 damage, no warranty because i drove it through water! New wiring harness and battery.😡
Fords are known for having wiring connectors that don’t seal properly allowing water intrusion
I don't see Nissan doing that. In fact they made more things standard on the 2025 frontier and the new refresh has some meaningful upgrades which I could not avoid if I were in the market. The frontier has the same old F-Alpha box frame that is built like a tank at the same old Canton Plant in Mississippi. There really is only one thing they took away and that is the bed rails on the floor. They deleted those in 2022 and one might also say they dropped the roof rack on the Pro 4X premium package. But those items do not make the truck less capable or less reliable. Not like how oems like Toyota purposely under-built the underpinnings to beef up margins. I don't see that crap from Nissan. Not even remotely so.
nissan frontier is agreat truck. but odnt let them fool you. They are all playing these games. pro4x added very little in the refresh and went up 3500 bucks for 2025. Great updates, 100% but at almost a 10% increase in msrp and a vow to not has as much inventory so that deals are harder to get in 2025.
@@Jason-Samko Maybe. But my dealer has 58 on the ground. I'm pretty sure I could get at least 2500 or more off MSRP if I were in the market. OEM's are cutting back production but inventories are still up. I think everything before the elections is in limbo. House sales are flat as well as auto. People don't know what to expect and many are already stretched on too much debt. Mass layoffs are just beginning to take off. If anything I would hold off buying until the end of the year or Jan 31 which is a good time before tax season. Look at the new tacos. Brand new generation but they have to already discount them which is unheard of for the mighty Yota.
@@Jason-Samko a pro 4X probably fits maybe 3% of the buyers interests
grab a 2025 SV or an s and actually use it for work like I'm doing I run my pressure cleaning and window cleaning business off a Nissan Frontiers now for 21 years
@@kenkneedee Maybe so but 20-25 percent of frontiers are built as P4X's. My dealer has tons of SV's and P4X's in just about any color you want lol. I don't recall ever seeing that much inventory (58 trucks) at anytime/any year. People have quit buying new and that's affecting all brands. I'm seeing most dealers moving their used inventory up front and center just to sell something to pay the bills.
I was at the dealer Tuesday dropping my Sierra off for warranty work and the lot was PACKED full of trucks. Could be that people are finally backing off due to the price or it could also be the fact that reliability and quality has taken a nose dive. Not to mention if you do have an issue it's sometimes weeks wait for parts.
@@Alloutdrs1 excellent points and agree
@@Jason-Samkowas at a huge ford dealership on Sunday, was almost empty. Maybe three people total buying or getting number figures. It was funny.
I have 150k on my Hyundai Elantra, its been fantastic. Its an 18. The 2.5 in the Tucson and Santa Cruz hasnt had a recall...id buy another Hyundai in a second.
Perfect
I have a 2017 F-150 with 2.7 motor. 193k running mint! I will only buys 2017 or older.
As a business owner and electrician I don’t trust anything newer than 2020. Seen and heard waaayyyy too many problems!
Jason, you are doing excellent work here brother. Eventually I’d like to have you appear in one of my documentaries. You know a lot about the ground level information that many don’t know about. I appreciate that.
I really liked your last Toyota video and where you showed Tacoma after Tacoma. I wish I would have seen that before I made my Toyota documentary! 😂
Dealers around me aren’t discounting any of their older models either. There are NEW 2023 models still that they won’t discount. Not many but they are there.
Always a pleasure Jason, keep up the great work brother. -Brandon 🫡
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Yep no deals on the 23s here either. they are like gold for the dealers. Will check out your channel when I get a few mins.
When accountants can override engineers' designs to save a nickel, that product is trash... hence our current situation.
Back inn the day gm changed shock suppliers from a good comp with good product to a cheaper crap shock thst was HALF A PENNY cheaper per shock. Saved 2 cents per truck and gave customers a crap product. 1 mill trucks sold so saving 20k was more important than a good product.
Even when they add something good (like Badlands pkg in Bronco Sport) they force you to then deal with a new entirely digital dash. Which will only give you issues down the road.
@@stephenurban9880 don't care for digital dashes. But that's the way everything is going now. I'm not happy about it
GMC PICKUPS..STEERING SHAFT BREAKING..TAILGATE OPENING WHILE DRIVING..BRAKES APPLIED WITH NOTHING IN THE PATH OF THE VEHICLE..BRILLIANT GM..
All brands have problems
I won't buy any vehicle that invades my privacy. That means no GM products. They can report you to your insurance company. Hard pass. I don't know about the rest but I don't trust any of them.
ALL OF THEM harvest and sell your data.
“Data harvesting is the new oil”
Ford owns spying technology patents
gm is actually the only one that has now vowed not to sell that data. Becuase they got caught, yes. But all the others are still doing it as they have not got in trouble for it yet.
Toyota reports to insurance companies
GM V8's would be great if they'd get rid of cylinder deactivation
I removed one tracking device from my 21 taco. If you’re obd port isn’t white you have a tracker. Check yourself
I beat you to that game plan in 2019.
Me too. I bought a '19 F-150 Lariat V8 as my last new vehicle. Great discount, pre-Covid, pre-cylinder deactivation. It should be among the old ones that last. It still has tech that worries me long-term but it's better than the newest ones for it's chance of lasting. My Ford mechanic told me the new ones will not last because of the tech. The wire-wrapping, particularly. He's 60 like I am. This guy has the same idea, so i watched his videos.
@@williamcarter4705^5
TCR (technical Cost Reduction)...bwhaha....more like the real term enshitification...everything from washing machines/toasters to ball point pens is fully enshitified nowadays.
Your term suits the situation better
What's crazy is that the 2008 bailout of the automobile industry was not a bailout of the actual companies: Ford, GM, Chrysler etc. But a bailout of their financing divisions: GMAC, Ford financial etc. Car companies make more money off their loans than their car sales. Car companies are just banks that sell cars.
And they are all major military contractors which is a large portion of their profits
Nissan Frontier
In 2025 it will cost you 8k more than a 2024 respectively
@@Jason-Samko - I didn’t know that but it sounds excessive to me.
I just replaced the ignition switch in my ‘94 B3000. It still runs great. I don’t really need a fancy new truck.
@picklerix6162 simple math. 3500 less msrp plus 5k difference in deals on 24 vs deals on 25.
@@Jason-Samko I'm not seeing that in Edmonton alberta Jason. 24 pro4x best $56k to $58k depending on dealership 25 pro4x $58 to $60k
@@gordmonteath6090 maybe not up there.
The sky high prices on these new cars/trucks is pushing the cost of used too the top of peak and holding! I think there will be a correction like real estate. Has to be!
I just want a naturally aspirated (non turbo non supercharged) 6 cylinder, non cvt, non hybrid, non full of electronics, comfortable american car.....thats all I want
Car market finally correcting itself. Hold off until December for the best deals, last week preferably.
Agree
I’m not buying anything until the Summer, so I’m hoping trucks continue sitting on lots. The used market needs to keep falling as well. These dealers want to have their cake and eat it too.
Yeah the bs is getting out of control.... Ive been contemplating selling my 23 Raptor for a next gen 37 Raptor (Im hoping for big changes in response to the RHO). But with alot of item deletions, tracking junk and large bumps in $$$ for less, Im most likely going to pass.
Yep its all a shell game they are playing and banking on our stupidity to increase profits.
@@Jason-Samko 👍 Keep up the good work, enjoy your channel.
@@highwayman1218 thanks
Dude you got a 2 year old truck, keep what you got , why are you already looking to trade up ??
@@toddprater14 Your point? I also have a 22 year old truck... If the new Raptor is a big upgrade I'll buy it, I know my finances and its not like I'll take a huge loss when if I sell it.
My 03 Frontier is a pup...only 188K..
..she's a puff🎉...I'm 75 keeping her till the estate sale 🎉.
@@kevinrice7635 perfect
I have a 02 Frontier! 194,000 miles. Manual trans. I am with you. Plan on keeping it
@patrickharrington9772 yeah buddy agreed 👍
My F150 is 13 years old, 90k miles. I’m not willing to replace it with any new truck at the 60-90k prices I see today.
Saw an advertisement locally saying they are discounting new 24's at over 20k off... NO! that's still 20k to much I say.
I wouldn't say no leather is a not as much of a downgrade as one might initially think. One, the leather interiors are only partial in that only certain areas are upholstered in leather. Two, the leatherette (vinyl) fabric is easier to clear and will like wear a lot longer (assuming it is of good quality). The bad part, in my opinion, is that they probably didn't reduce the price (I'm not sure what the real price differential is). There is a a Lariat in my neck of the woods that is being advertised with an $8216 discount ($4000 of which is the rebate) and a $68,030 MSRP. Still a long ways away from the $12,000 off a 2019 F150 XLT (302a) pickup I got. I'd think 10% off the MSRP would be reasonable and attainable? Thoughts?
Yep I'm not a fan of leather at all and would never buy a lariat trim when there is a perfectly good xlt trim available.
Agree 100% that any truck available today should be able to be had for a minimum of 10% off. Minimum.
Anything built after 2010 is JUNK, I've been a mechanic for 40 years, Boggles the mind how the EPA has destroyed the diesel engine, and turned the gas engine into a pile of unreliable garbage.
Egr has destroyed the diesel as we know it. One of the biggest bs gov moves since they messed with the gas can spout.
What about a 2025 Maverick over a 24. I see the price is up a bit but now offering awd in hybrid still can get base for 30000
You will have to decide if the updates on the 25 justify the added msrp cost as well as the loss of deals on available 2024s.
Low Range in GM transfer cases are basically an add on option now?
True. But great gm is doing that. So many people today will never put a truck in 4 low and don't even know how to. Better to save them money and give them a single speed if they only want or need a single speed
I was looking for a 2024 Frontier but now looking for a 2025. Only for the right price... No urgency, No FOMO...
My 2 cents. The 25 frontier is a nice refresh but at a cost over the 24. Drive both and see how important the chahges are for you. There is about a 7-8k difference between current deals on a 24 and current deals on a 25 frontier
@@Jason-Samko you can get a Frontier for 4 grand off in Raleigh on the '25s and and they are not offering any more for the 24's which already has a years worth of depreciation on it. Even 4 grand off is not good enough for me...I can wait,.check again in February. I want the new orange color.
Where in the world are you getting 15k off a 37k vehicle?
It's prob a flood special.
Who said anything about 15k off a 37k vehicle? Unless you are talking about the bronco sport. That you could get deals on with 12k off a couple months ago. Made a video all about it
Jason working day and night ;>)
6 hours of sleep a night work the other 18..lol
The 2025 Ford Expedition Tremor with the split tailgate & lift gate (like the old Land Rovers and Land Cruisers) might be an exception. I’m drooling over that, but I don’t have whatever $$,$$$ they’re going to be charging for it. I’ll probably end up with a used 2023 F-150 FX4 or Tremor.
The interior is HIDEOUS
Funny thing is really rich people don’t buy expensive cars! They drive old Toyota or Subaru maybe a Honda.
Hey, man. Good morning, my name is Francisco I got a question for you said you have a Jeep Gladiator right with the 3.6 , My question is, is your engine making? All kind of weird noises cause mine is. I have a 22 grand Cherokee. O and the engine.
Just makes all kinds of weird noises. Is that normal and the 3.6 It's rottles at lower rmp going up hill , It also rattles when you're about to stop, And?
It makes other weird noise when it's just idling.But it only does it for like two seconds and then it goes away. Please.
Let me know if you are having the same noit's to see if it's normal or not
@funnymoments84 i don't get any weird nosies unless I'm lugging it. Meaning if I'm pulling a trailer or in thick mud in 4 high and thr engine is fighting because of the gear I'm in I will get some spark nock like sounds for a second before the time catches up.