This Armored Vehicle is Making the US Green with Envy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ย. 2023
- After more than 40 years of battle-tested use, the French Army is ready to let go of its aging fleet of Véhicule de l'Avant Blindé or VAB with a more powerful armored personnel carrier: the Griffon VBMR.
This 6x6 wheeled armored vehicle is about to become the new troop transport vehicle of the French military. Fitted with a 400-horsepower Renault engine and a 400-liters tank, the Griffon has an autonomy of over 800 kilometers and can reach speeds of more than 90 kilometers per hour.
It can easily traverse the harshest terrains, such as jungles and rocky terrain. The 24.5-tons APC can swiftly deliver up to eight soldiers in the heat of battle under cover of a hull resistant to heavy machine guns, artillery rounds, and nuclear material.
While in a combat zone, the Griffon can provide cover to its troops, with an arsenal of heavy machine guns to deter hostile enemy forces employing small arms, and even keep armored vehicles at bay when equipped with anti-tank guided missiles and smoke grenades, to attack, relocate, and destroy enemy armor from different positions. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Just a little clarification, the 90 km/h announced is just to correspond to French law for vehicles over 20 tonnes and to be able to drive on the road and motorway network.
In "combat mode" the vehicle exceeds 120 km/h.
Just a button to push to switch it from "peacetime mode" to "war mode".
Watching this approach at 60 mph would be terrifying.
Especially for hostiles in defensive positions
Hé oui 90 km is cruise...
Pour ça que nos amx sont extrêmement apprécié en ukraine.
Vite, précis, et pas si fragile
@@killswitch8078 j'espère tien lis ça sur Rheinmetall le conccurent présent dans MGCS depuis 2019 (. Merkel ) tu vas pas y croire... même pas fake suis tombé dessus par hasard.en Google googleisant Rheinmetall.....
Financial time ..2014 ( ggle search Rheinmetall + russia) >>>
Evidence that EU sanctions against Russia are starting to hurt European companies emerged on Thursday when Rheinmetall issued a profit warning after Berlin withdrew authorisation for a contract to supply Moscow with a combat simulation centre. The German defence contractor said it was looking at “all available legal options” following the cancellation of the export licence for the €120m per year combat training centre at Mulino, east of Moscow. For 30 000 russians troups. The move forced the company to revise down its forecast for operating profit at its defence business from €85m-€95m to €65m-€75m. Shares sank 8.6 per cent to €38.35. The German government exceeded the sanctions rules adopted by the EU last week, which do not apply to existing contracts.The losses in its defence business were compensated for by earnings in its automotive division, where the operating result rose 22 per cent to €93m.
Sympas les boschs... "sauveurs de 🇺🇦 " l'action Rheinmetall à explosee. ... depuis 2021....
The French bashing continues, and this is because of a French minister who refused to follow the USA against Iraq on February 14, 2003. and he was entirely right because the evidence given by the bush hawks was false. I am appalled to see the stupidity of certain Americans who keep criticizing without knowing. I am not generalizing of course, there is a lot of respect from most because they know the truth. On the other hand, others would do better to learn about real military history (not Hollywood history but real history) or go to bed
Amen.
France (along with the rest of the world) saw what a horrible foreign policy decision it was, and stood it's ground by refusing to partake in it.
The American media bashed France for it, with some American media outlets even calling for an end to French Fries & the introduction of 'Freedom Fries' 🤣🤣🤦🏼♂️
(Even Canada decided to take on one of the most dangerous provinces in Afghanistan & commit to it entirely, so when the US came asking for support for Iraq they could honestly turn them down on account of them not having any capacity left)
this channel is right in the center of people that don't know any better.
@@lanagro Pretty sure it isn't really possible to get into a lot of depth with a ~10 min mass market video?
by controlling Germany [still] the Americans control Europe without showing ''face''[ the Germans get enough too] now after Brexit France has a role to play... or play-along and let new powers emerge [they'll be controlled too!...]
The bashing of the French started way before 2003. The bashing of France by almost all of the West started in 1966 after France decided to leave NATO. The French argue that Europe was getting way too dependent on US help after WW2, and there was too much American influence in Europe. The irony is that the Americans literally helped Europe be free in not one World War, but 2 World Wars. It diffinately rubbed the Americans the wrong way after the Americans committed so much in helping France be free from Germany, twice. Ever since then, America has literally told France to stay at the little boys' table at almost all NATO conventions because the French are the only nation to leave NATO.
Edit - All major European powers have had a European head of European command of NATO, except for the French.
The Griffon was also design to have the maintenance cost of a Truck, to avoid costly vehicules and reduce the cost of the army
All véhicules same wheels.. last Mali big big "tour" in désert was hawfull changing wheels...and old VAB no air condition.... 😢
... And to be maintainable with standard, abundent, easily obtainable parts. 👍
@@docteurpimousse2117 yep even CAESAR is a Truck based artyllery ( reinforced) . In fact long ago lots came from agriculture 🚜
yes, all most all the new French armies vehicule are made on the same base
French APCs are fantastic. The French know speed. ❤️🇺🇸
We know a few things about cavalry😉
Caesar already used Gallic horsemen, and Frankish knights on horseback were feared for centuries.
Undoubtedly this legacy leaves traces🤭
(Ooor... maaaybeee... the lack of budget forcing us to forget heavy cavalry, forcing us to favor light cavalry... but shh🤫😅)
lol Australia Bushmaster is better more powerful with 1000hp and faster and IED explosive proof hull.
source : trust me bro@@nedkelly9688
@@nedkelly9688LOL. You wish it was aussie. Its literally made by Thales, but without the added expertise from Nexter and Renault. Strictly inferior product intended for export
@@Jugement was designed and engineered by a Irish company a South African and the Australian Perry Engineering and then Australian Government owned company ADI Australian Defence Industry bought the intellectual rights to the design and started building it. then Australia government sold the company ADI to a Australian company 50% and Thales 50% and eventually the Australian company sold it's share to Thales.
Thales Australia still has to obey Australian secrecy laws of any Australian invented technology if developed in Australia. why some Australian Thales tech is not even sold to French lol.
Know the truth or be quiet.
Everyone at Thales Australia is Australian probably barely any French there at all.
Especially in the R&D facility.. you know research and development.
Also Thales Australia CEO is Australian Jeff Connolly i think before him was Chris Jenkins. yes not even French CEO'S lol.
See Australia has CSIRO and DSTO. these are Australian defence and civilian Government organisations to invent Australia military and civilian inventions. once invented they call out Defence companies in Australia to build them these.
Even though are owned sometimes by Foreign countries they are not invented by these companies. why American and UK and French companies in Australia don't make or sell from their home countries some tech.
Boeing MQ28A Ghost Bat most advanced AI drone is proof of this as is not a American made drone. was designed and engineered by Australian's at Boeing Australia. Head designer of it is Australian. engineer was Australian.
Head designer actually works as a lead designer at famous Boeing Phantomworks also
So not everything is from the country the company is owned by lol.
I worked at a multinational company in Australia owned by a foreign company. wasn't in Defence but if i invented something while worked that it was intellectual property owned by the company. i signed a contract for this.
So no not everything at Thales Australia is French barely nothing is except French get the money from it.
In February 1994, the draft specification for the IMV was released, followed in July by the invitation to register interest, with 17 proposals received including by Australian company Perry Engineering with the Bushmaster, and by Australian Specialised Vehicle Systems with the Taipan, derived from the South African Mamba.[6][7] In September 1995, the request for tender was issued to five shortlisted proposals.[6][7]
In early 1996, Perry Engineering produced a prototype Bushmaster, based on an Irish designed Timoney Technologies MP44, including the Rockwell/Timoney independent suspension, and with US company Stewart & Stevenson components from the Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles (FMTV).[8][9][10] Over 65% of the components by Stewart & Stevenson were from the FMTV including engine, transmission, steering, instrumentation, electrical and pneumatic systems.[7] The prototype was built in less than seven months.[11]
In September 1996, the Australian government-owned company Australian Defence Industries (ADI) purchased the intellectual property rights from Boral's Perry Engineering with agreement from Timoney Technologies and Stewart & Stevenson.[6][12]
A Bushmaster prototype at Perry Engineering in Adelaide in the late 1990s
By January 1997, following the withdrawal of other bids, the Bushmaster and Taipan remained the only contenders for the project.[6][7] That November, ADI launched its re-engineered Bushmaster proposal changing the design and shape of the hull to withstand a greater force and associated internal and external features.[13][14] In March 1998, three Bushmaster IMVs and three Taipan IMVs built in South Africa started a 44-week competitive evaluation trial.[7][15] Neither vehicle fully met all of the requirements of the specification, and performed with varying success over the course of the trials.[6]
In March 1999, ADI was awarded the Bushranger contract to produce the Bushmaster at their Bendigo facility.[7][14] In November 1999, ADI was privatised becoming 50% owned by French company Thales and 50% owned by Australian company Transfield. In 2006, Thales acquired the remaining 50% of ADI and renamed the company to Thales Australia.[16]
In October 2016 it was announced that Australia and Indonesia would jointly develop a vehicle based on the Bushmaster for use by the Indonesian military.[17] The vehicle, known as the Sanca, is manufactured by Pindad in collaboration with Thales.[18]
As of 2025 the Griffon will be delivered to the Belgian Army . The Belgian Army is already training with the French Army on the Scorpion program.
Thanks to the Scorpion program and similar training the Belgian Army will have the same fire and fighting power as the French on Battalion and Brigade level (including Caesar newest artellery system)
Pas tout à fait reste calme 😅😂
L armée Belge possède déjà des Griffons et est présente actuellement en Roumanie au cotés de l armée Française
@@ucorsu69vous (toi et l'autre) êtes au courant que ce gars parle anglais quand même, j'veux dire, y a google trad mais quand même.
Négatif . Les premiers seront livrés en 2025. Les premiers travaux à Bourg Leopold et à Marche à Famenne (BE) ont débuté quant à l'adaptation des batiments (garages) pour stationer les véhicules. 1ière unité Belge pour recevoir les Griffons sera l'unité 5ième de Ligne à Bourg Léopold. Les Griffon en Roumanie sont d'une unité Français. Le Bataljon 5ième de Ligne et momentanément en Roumanie sur Piranha 3 et DF 30 et DF 90
@@philblou3832
That has to be good news for our Belgium allies and the NATO. Belgium were falling way behind as were the Dutch and Danes.
When is a civilian version of this going to be available? I'm getting bored with my Humvee. I just need something to get groceries with. My wife would like a roof turret but, between you and me, it's not a must-have. (She can be pretty hostile to other drivers.)
The VBMR-L Serval would be the Humvee of Scorpion Program.
@@BruneSixtine I think he is after an upgrade to fend off his mother-in-law.
I'm with the wife on this one. Current situation on roads ask for a turret
@@deffington6627agreed, although I want an auto cannon because, obviously; it’s a cannon to shoot auto’s
@@Thomas-xd4cx German spotted!
Another fun fact, the Gryphon has direct electronical link with planes such as ghe Rafale F4 or Tiger helicopters and any other ground troop on the ground.
This means it is tracked in real time and can designate a target's position in realtime.
yup , it is called the Scorpion program which the Belgian army will also have. In fact they are already training this way of communications and fighting training on FTX like Celtic Uprise (interoperability on company level with the French. so that a BE company will be able to replace a FR campany and later even on batalion level)
Scorpion plan of French Army🇫🇷
As an European (Dutch) I am so happy France and Germany continue to develop state of the art weapons. Most of the smaller European countries as totally dependent on these countries in case e.g. Russia would attack us and in case the United States is fed up spending tax money on defending foreign countries. (Many NATO country don't spend enough on their defense as per the NATO rules)
your really do not understand how the world is working. the USA don't spend anything. Their whole economic system is build on war, and nothing is free from them.
They produce their own stuff and encourage other European countries to buy from them, not because of Russia. But to be independent from the USA. It's getting more to the point in this day and age that Europeans need to start thinking for and about themselves.
@@luftwaffles274 yeah, tell that to Germany.
Another great video as usual Dark Tech. French war vehicles are exquisite to look at.
Originally (and still for the non up armored versions) the Saviem/Renault VAB is a floaty-floata truck able to swim to shore with 2 propellers in the back.
The VAB, the famas, the AMX 30, the S342 Gazelle the C160 transall the Dassault Super Etendard and Mirages were the iconic vehicles symbol of help being on the way during the troubled times of the 70’/80’ in africa… (never forget Kolwezi…)
C’est quoi kolwesi ?
@@Noelegamer une opex de la legion…
@@G_de_Coligny ok merci
Kolwezi , une super opex de la légion avec de super gros dont certains ne sont pas revenus mais quels supers gars !👍
Film et même une chanson (Jean Pax Meffret)
Thales is actually pronounced 'tah - less'.
As confirmed by every Thales employee I’ve ever met!
@@alexscarbro796 Doubt Australian Thales workers pronounce it that way
Always wondered how that was pronounced....now I know, thanks!
@@nedkelly9688 they do. I have heard it pronounced Ta-less with a short A sound, but usually its Tah-les
All combat companies of my regiment are already equipped with it ;) And for having served in a VAB (dear to my heart) for almost 10 years, it's a GIANT leap.
How does it compare to the new VAB 3?
@@alichahin Unfortunately we don't have the VAB 3... It's export only, so I couldn,'t say other than the VAB 3 is just an upgrade of the VAB and the Griffon is a total tech jewel.
Great video ! i'm proud to see new vehicle receive the love they deserve ^^
look canada, SIX wheels! not FOUR
Looks like an Aussie bushmaster
The SCORPION program is really turning up good
Green is the best colour for any army. Just saying because this retired veterans heart and soul are still olive drab green!
27BIM = 27ième Brigade d'Infanterie de Montagne (27th Mountain Infantry Brigade)... and not a mountain artillery brigade.
La France 2e exportateur mondial d armement on a l'expérience de la guerre depuis plus de mille ans et c'est le seul pays au monde qui a gagné le maximum de bataille et de guerre
Oui, on est très fort à la division par 0
@@Saucisse_Praxis ? Problème
@@Saucisse_Praxiscringe
Outstanding.
Regards,
Geoff. Reeks
Nice battle taxi guys❤❤❤❤
Thanks, Dark Tech.
Armor vehicles are alway badass
Just what I need for fishing trips.
what kind of fish are you chasing ?
@@John__Wish It's not about the fish, it's about the roads.
Thank you!
Impressive
Oh yeah, almost forgot that we were actualy buying that thing to replace our Dingos.
Pretty sure your ones will be built in Belgium too. It’s nice when international programs work without a hitch.
Most of the comments are really useless and not a real technical exchange. It is a new vehicule with a lot of RETEX, France was in Afghanistan for the Americain or Anglo-saxon who are short minding we lost soldiers 😢 and great people there, we were in Mali and other wars. As all new equipements a test phase is necessary to put the last details. I am feed up of all the trolls who can critize without any knowledge behind the safety of the screen and insult the great achivements of others.
Yes, this is unfortunately often the case. People who know nothing, but are here to express a certain bitterness or jealousy (this is often the case for certain American commentators who do not admit that others are better than them).
There is not so many critices, I think some jokes. Looks like à lot find Griffon great wait when they see Jaguar and future VBL and Serval they will better understand everything is clever. Also I have NEVER heard any true U.S soldier insulting us or moking the frenchs army and navy. The fact is that we are just "microsopiques" compare to U.S but we try to do our best with small budget. But FR still some of best soldiers. US are X times less selfish than Gaz-snifers.
Certified to drive this piece of junk and calling what it is. It was put out full of bugs and bad systems because of poor design. French arrogance does not justify giving soldiers faulty systems that fail when they need them.
@@walex5462 French arrogance
basically your entire argument lmao
More Importantly,.does it suit An Autobot.or Decepticon character as their alt mode more?
Cool! Where can I order one?
on Amazon fr.
My Daughter actually works at a place that repairs and upgrades the VAB, she gets to drive them! Meanwhile i get to drive my Mitsubishi 4x4. lols.
Dude love your work, keep ‘me coming!
Not sure if you are using this pronunciation on purpose or not? Thales Group the French military co is pronounced “talice”. Or “Thales” as in “Alice” as they say.
En faite il y a plus version comme mortier embarqué ou nrbc mais elles sont toujours en développements.
Congrats you just made an Australian Bushmaster.. been there done that..
and with the new "akeron" missile the vehicle can fire on target behind hard cover and redirect the missile with cam of the missile from sky .
No. The Griffon can not do this.
But the Jaguar can, and it's a different vehicle.
@@BruneSixtinesame missile isn’t it?
@@phrog773 Griffon vehicle is not designed to shoot Akeron missiles, but soldiers transported with it can shoot the missile with a portable missile launcher, once they go outside the vehicle.
Jaguar vehicle on the other hand is designed to be able to shoot 2 Akeron missiles, besides it's remote anti-armor turret and machine guns.
Griffon vehicle can only fire its remote machine gun.
@@BruneSixtine I remember reading that MMP tubes could optionally be mounted on the RWS for certain versions, but I cannot for the life of me find it again.
@@phrog773 Akeron MP is for Jaguar, it was never planned for Griffon, you can still find on youtube old presentation videos of this vehicle when it was only a 3D rendered project, there was no MMP for any of it's variants.
9 years ago : /watch?v=xH0hKuzXzdQ
Thé griffon doesn’t have a built in or mountable mmp launcher in the French versions (not sure there is any version that has an mmp). Some of the griffons can carry an mmp group. In the French doctrine fighting happens outside the apc
Correct : The old Mephisto VAB, equipped with 4 ATGM named "HOT" (4250m range) ready to use, will not be replaced by a Griffon variant. But the Jaguar - an other armored vehicle of the Sorpion program (a scout/reconnaissance light tank), is equipped with 2 modern MMP missile ready to use.
Parce que ce sont les premières versions... Comme pour le VAB HOT, les versions MMP arriveront bientôt... Mais en vrai la version MISTRAL III et MMP existe déjà sur le blindé SERVAL, il semblerait même que Thales&co prévoient une tourelle 20mm pour SERVAL...'
@@vaitiareapetahijarmann1533thx. do you know about ( lite) AA capabilities ?
I didn't see any small AA version and for jaguar is the 40 CTC exactly the same as 40 ctc rapid fire marine which has AA capabilies ?
AA needs radar I look at french arsenal found no lite systems, we surely have slalker than Mamba.
@@frednoname3714 le canon 40 CTC rapide fire Marine a une version terrestre, qui est monter sur le même châssis de camion que le CAESAR 4x4... Le Jaguar peut abattre des hélicoptères et drones ou aéronef volant à basse altitude et à vitesse subsonique (type A-10 Thunderbolt ou SU-25, mais avec clairement moins de précision et capacités qu'un système anti aérien de type Guepard), mais le Jaguar n'est pas fait pour l'anti aérien à proprement parler, il n'y a pas de radar sur le Jaguar comme pour le Guepard Allemand... Le Jaguar est multi-rôles mais comme tout multi-rôles il a ses limites...'
@@vaitiareapetahijarmann1533 merci . Le nom svp du rapid fire terrestre svp ? Connais pas du tout
Ps bien sur sans radar AA = bricolage
Thalès is pronounced more like "Thalaiss", Great video btw
Renault Truck Defense doesn’t exist anymore, since 2018 actually ;)
Looks very similar to the Australian Bushmaster...
I suppose any boxy shape is a bushmaster to you.
This might be better than Ajax🇬🇧🇬🇧for operating costs and purchase price per unit ..
Oh no. This title won't sit well with Americans😂
Gaijin when?
Yeah griffin makes some badass stuff.
Question, I seem to be hearing a lot about tanks APC’s etc having remotely operated MG/Grenade turrets with optical sights, but surely a deliberate attack on the sighting system would render the turrets useless, could someone explain to me (because I know nothing about this subject) how or if this seeming weakness is overcome?. Nonetheless this is a very interesting and informative video, thanks for sharing it with us all. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴🇺🇸🇺🇦🇮🇱
I have to wonder 💭 why it is that governments can (usually) find money to spend on defence (and offence) capabilities whilst the general public are trying to make ends meet because of government ineptitude and lack of understanding of what the people are going through, the pandemic followed closely by a worldwide recession followed by Putin invading Ukraine, the war in Israel/Palestine/Gaza and the Chinese 🇨🇳 sabre rattling about the South China Sea and Taiwan 🇹🇼 is causing untold uncertainty about the world geopolitical and geoeconomics situation that it is causing so many people to slide into poverty, but the governments are still spending money on defence that could have been better spent on civil needs. WHY?.
for the first question : it's very hard to shoot such a small target from far away.
for the second one : that's called sovereignety. If you are defenceless, then you cannot portect your territory, your interests and your citizens. It's easy to say let's delete all armies and war, but completely utopic unfortunately. Also, the money spent on military developement usually brings a lot of benefits for the economy, employment and technological developement in general. All that for spending that aren't that huge (2% of the GDP for France, and as I said, a lot of it isn't lost money).
trés bon documentaire !
Ce qui me troue le cul... c'est à quel point il a l'air confortable pour l'infanterie à l'arrière. On dirait qu'ils ont tous le droit à un fauteuil de gamer adapté. Plutôt cool.
(même si vous allez déjà vous plaindre, vous tous, bande de marcheur de combat !)
comfort oui, mais espace, ils ont l'air serrés de fou non ?
@@nippon19 Par rapport au VAB le Griffon c'est un hôtel 5 étoiles, avec de l'espace, peu de bruit, la climatisation, etc...
@@BruneSixtine écoute pas pu tester le griffon, mais je te crois
@@nippon19Il y a des tests dispo sur youtube.
@@BruneSixtine jure ? wtf o_o
Which is the predecessor vehicle? So FR can sent some to UA
the VAB, but seriously he is VERY dated, like 45 years of service, they are pretty much all in a rough shape.
Why it's have flat bottom? Most modern apc use V shape bottom
it has a V shape bottom, the vehicle can withstand 10+ kg of TNT equivalent mine/IED explosion
only eight?
Gajin when ?
We delivered 500 ! When we "take out fingers from ass" we are fast. Delivered to Belgium. And max speed is 120 km/h 3:24 " jaguar" is same chassis and is very "weird" thing 40 mm rapid fire CTC + missiles ( CTC canon is made with UK and probably sold some to U.S.) 200 rounds minute variables ammo type. Very SMALL ... but ... .🎉
Scrpion. Normally not for export ? Data exchange between everything ( MBT, griffon jaguar jets soldier)...
Because new things are full of detectors ( laser spoting detection, noise etc etc ) and imaging etc the 0.5 can "hear noise of rpg starts" automatic fire + galix grenades etc...
BUY it !!! Delivered with 🇫🇷 spécialités.... smells cheese when new ... look for "jaguar" it is very bizarre invention. 🎉
And I discoved that the now old Australians bushmaster 4x4 are 🇫🇷 new version of this 12 tons 4x4 is SERVAL.
@@frednoname3714you made me discover a French vehicle as a French person
@@kyllianfr49 🤣 order not received..? Look at something called "jaguar" sure you will find it bizarre...
@@frednoname3714Jaguars hope it will live up to the AMX10RC
bas 500 c'est rien en faite, faudrais le quadruple au minmum
nice battel taxi.
How is this substantially better than an Australian bushmaster?
6 wheeler and armor thickness : better mobility and protection
We have new smaller one 4x4 called CERVAL now almost everything is modern and much better armored that antics VAB next to modernise is " VBL" ou kind of bizarre hummvee. ( small)
Speed, range, reliability, costs, kits, comfort, firepower, modularity...
Bushmaster is also french 🇫🇷 ( said from THALES but I think from Nexter,) is à 4x4 like our small new SERVAL. Griffon is 6x6 70 cm longer
The huge différence is weight 13 tons for bushmaster and 25 for griffon + pobably mens capacity. Also not sure but main weap depending on version is 7.62 on Serval and Bush and 0.50 cal is 12.7mm on Griffon boths finally not same Light véhicules not going as bigger inside front. Complementary with smallers "jeep" kinds. Think I answered true différences both are french design ... the country of...submarines.....good luck with incredible U.S choice of multiples ugrades before you get the new ones 🤣🇫🇷🇫🇷 decades...
Griffon has more horsepower, more combat proven (France are fighting in Africa and other UN missions, Australian barely), more wheels, more protection.
Another question ?
There is actually 4x4 version
That was an interesting video, one small niggle though, you didn't really explain how the US was involved or why they were envious...
Is griffon exist to compete with VBCL ?
anyone.....?
Do you mean VBCI? And if so, then not really. VBCI is an IFV (infantry fighting vehicle), while the griffon is an APC. That means that the VBCI is is made for active fighting, and supporting infantry once on the ground, while the griffon is mainly a transport vehicle, with some anti-infantry capacities, but you don't want to put it directly at the front as it doesn't have that much armour and firepower. If I remember correctly the VBCI also has a new modernized version being studied to update the current one in use.
@@painsama4225 aaah.... I see
That's a VBCI instead of VBCL .
Thx for th explanation.
I got it now.
YUP - America may be interested - BUT only if made in America - with modification of course!
To hear feet and tons is refreshing, thank you
Is metric too hard for you? We're not the only country in the world.
To msot ears its old fashioned, the mile for intsance is based on the old distance of 1000 roman paces, not too mathmatical hence space is measured in metric for accuracy, and damn is engineering a whole lot easier in metric.
Pas mal non ? C'est francais
le griffon il est sexy
This is just an up-armored MRAP...
Tell me you never watched the video, yet you comment on it, without telling me so.
Must check out the Paramount Marauder
Isn't THALES... Tarles?
it's thales
sounds like ta-less
exactly@@keng293
Come on, you learn that in elementary school 😂.
What is that in us customary units?
You have a phone. Figure it out.
Nobody talks in imperial units excepted re(tards and people living in imperial colonies of UK.
Which one are u ?
not gonna lie but it looks like the French just copied off the Australian's Bushmaster homework.
The idea perhaps. But the french did have similar vehicles before, like the vab
NOTHING is infallible!
... Until proven otherwise, indeed !
OUI. Yes sûre it is very new. BUT look at something called "VBCI" 8x8 resists IED IRL loss 1 transmission went back camp in afga. And 6 hours later was back repaired 2 Light injured. We donnot have doyens of différents styles. We MUST succeed and not so richs..
We are not like russian we dont say our véhicule are invasible
No shit
Yea, something isn't it?@@gook5219
Basically " Le Tank" .
At least I had someone smile😂
During my years I used so many French cars, owned by me or company cars, the Renault 16, Peguot 306, Renault Kangu, the "new" Peguot 308 which drove like a dream until it blew a head gasket at 17,000 km which brought lot of jokes about the new concept of changing the engine instead of periodically servicing it.
It seems like the whole glorious European car industry will shortly disappear and what will remain are those horrible ev's from China
This Brit likes...
Thanks for the weapons porn.
Potential to send all replaced (except museum items) wehecles to Ukraine and help to improve European security.
Drones with small shaped charges and bye bye 🎉
Greetings from Apacheria in the Arizona Territories ahe'hye'e
4:59 Did that guy fall off?
lol
THALES is pronounced TALIS btw
No.
when you started to repeat your self around 3 minuets in I stopped watching
most military vehicles seem so cost inefficient for the modern warzone.
a cheap light truck with a half ton of armor around the cab optimized against rifle fire seems so much more cost effective.
One of the biggest killer nowadays is IEDs. A cheap truck wouldn't protect against that
@@fr3d42 if your objective is to not have any causalities then you arent going to win. if your objective is to defeat the enemy then you have to be willing to put a price on your soldiers heads. perhaps in the future we can do everything with cheap mass produced robots and change that dynamic.
@@judgeomega modern western armies (such as France) must have this goal, as public opinion is a crucial element in war. We are mostly talking counter insurgency here (most likely in Africa) not a full blown conflict with another modern army.
@@judgeomegathat’s seems to be the Russian ideology…troops are cheaper than the cost to protect them… basically opposite of most western thinking
. @judgeomega Ok. You go in first with a Kenwood with some armour bolt to the radiator and lets us know how it goes.
Best weapon created to date is a 50 dollar drone carrying a 100 dollar grenade.
The griffon is supposed to be accompanied by a rekon vehicle, jaguar, with anti-drone capabilities
@@philv3941 and what makes the ''jaguar'' unbeatable?.... nothing!...
@@user-McGiver nothing is unbeatable, but what makes russian BTR and tank fragiles is their inability to see, to hear and to kill drones above them.
It's not the case of this Jaguar
With a GPS jammer, your 50$ drone will go into the ground in 10 seconds if you don't have a really skilled pilot trained with drones that aren't stabilized by GPS (unlike all DJI products).
A commercial drone, especially the 4 motor ones are extremely Unstable, they need constant corrections thanks to an Inertial Measurement System, but cheap sensors deviates really quickly, thus needing to correct with GPS, once the GPS is down, the aircraft will also be
against a none competent army yes, ust like TB2 were seen the game changer vs Russia beofre they activated their old and shit air defense system. western army has the equipment to render civil drone useless. Laser, jamming system and aa
The Lav 6 is far superior to this.
3:28 Why specify Paris, France? Everyone knows the iconic city (unless you're from dumbsville USA), and any other variant like Paris, Texas, should naturally indicate a different location. The original Paris, by its very nature, doesn't require additional clarification-as it's the quintessential Paris.
+ Eurosatory isn’t in Paris but in a city called… Satory
You see how useless engineers are... Why are the sides armor plates not sloped but straight? Historic lessons not taken into account?
Not a mistake. The problem with sloped armor is it vastly decreases the internal space available, and this thing needs to carry a large squad and all the supplies they need.
And you can't make the vehicle any bigger.. taller and it's a massive target / can't fit under obstacles, wider and it's not air or train transportable.
Modern shells don't care about armor...
1- this is not a breakthrough vehicle this is a APC
2-sloppe Armor would make the vehicule bigger
The vehicle has kits, the armor sides are designed to place the kits on the surface. A plane surface is more practical. The kits surfaces are slopes. Check pictures of Griffon deployed in Mali to see the sloped armor plates.
Narration is stressful and exhausting. Fix it!
...and as a bonus feature, it is effect against zombies.
@redbaron3986 I'd love to see you say that to a FFL guy😂
Is it drone proof?
Nothing is
100% !! Because it will never get within 800Km of the front line
@@j.robertsergertson4513 -- and why is that?
@@user-og1ux8nr3i
Think about it.
Il a tous les systèmes de radar et un blindage surpuissant
Anything that happens on the battlefield”? I don’t recall it mentioning anti-tank mines, kamikaze drones or any anti-tank missiles like Javelin, Tone and armour piercing 155 mm shell?
It is mine resistant up to the STANAG and OTAN standards. No active protection systems are actually deployed on them to deal with ATGM, but it has been developed with the idea of being able to be retrofitted with such systems. As for « armor piercing 155mm » I think you have to stop with the drugs. 155mm is in the realm of artillery. They don’t use armor piercing, only HE and their derivatives. As mentioned in the video, it is resistant to all but direct hits from those, but a direct hit, especially considering the relative accuracy of the Russian artillery as well as the mobility of the vehicle itself, and considering French troops are mainly deployed in territories with terrorists that aren’t even close to having artillery systems precise enough to target moving vehicles, the Griffon is pretty well equipped. But if you wanted to mention how it could resist tank rounds, then no, it can’t. But nothing can withstand tank rounds, not even tank. If a Griffon ends up facing such vehicle, then someone really messed up. This thing is not made to be anywhere close to firing distance of an enemy tank.
As for anti drone duties, most Griffon are equipped with a teleoperated 12.7 roof mounted machine gun that can lock and track targets, so if it manages to detect the drone, or if a radar station somewhere close detects it and transmit the exact location through the SCORPION communication network, then the Griffon can potentially deal with them.
lol speed 90km/h, this a turtle
It's a lot of weight
SO IS 90 KPH LIKE 45 MPH?
Multiply kilometers by .6 to get miles so 90Kph x .6 = 54 mph
Imagine not knowing how to do unit conversations while having a cell phone.
56 kph
90 kph in civil mode, 120 in battle mode
@@CharliMorganMusicimagine not using the metric system.
Who do the French fight, every battle they get into they retreat or give up. Usually in that order, they don't want to offend anyone. Especially their enemies. Now thats funny 🎉🎉🎉
Most likely they've already fought your country. And most likely your country has lost. Most likely your country has already lost against the French, and not once, nor twice, but certainly more times. 😅
You're just butthurt.
Umm french have won more wars than anybody else on earth actually
So its a fancier stryker 🤷
Less expensive
Still need to find a way to reload the top Gun, because that's ridiculous. Get one of these TH-camrs that make their own vehicles because they come up with some great ideas that work.
Another MRAP, yawn. That glass windscreen, even if armored glass, is going to be a major weak point if they try to use this thing as a real APC / IFV.
It can take s hit from a RPG on the glass. It's not the cheep crap that's made in the USA
@@livetillyoudielovelife2299If you have any proof of this, please post it, because I'm not buying it. The shaped charge of even a plain jane RPG-7 can go through several inches of steel. It will go though that glass like butter.
Australia Bushmaster is proof actually. what it can stand this can also. maybe better since some say is heavier armoured.
@@nedkelly9688 I'm not seeing anything that claims the Bushmaster is anything more than an MEAP either. Obey armored against small arms fire. An RPG would go through it like a hot knife through butter.
@@livetillyoudielovelife2299no It can not get real
Highly impressive vehicle. They should send some of them to Ukraine to 1) help to fight tyranny and warmongery and 2) test their efficiency under realistic conditions.
I agree, though for "testing their efficiency under realistic conditions", considering the french armed forces are currently conducting a dozen military operations around the world, it's not really needed; Though most don't feature high intensity combat, of course.
i'll just put that part on the usual ignorance/caricatural nonsense views on the french military.
@@canicheenrage
I think the "high intensity warfare test" is implied here...
It also has a high visibility impact there, wich is not to minimise.
Before the Ukrainian war, the Caesar was an okay success but nothing extraordinary.
Then we sent a dozen of them there, + some 8×8 version, an now despite more than doubling its production capacities, Nexter has trouble dealing with the influx of proposed contracts with foreign nations.
Sending some of our latest vehicles there, especially since they've been conceived to handle mass scale production, would be an excellent contributor to its commercial success, even if we need to send "dumbed down" versions to avoid compromision risks of our latest information sharing technologies
I see your point , but our goverment will more likely send VAB not griffon , they are super expensive and lets be honest we are not really in a good time in France rn and it's hard to send something like a griffon wich cost a little fortune , the VAB is still a really good APC, the Ukrainians showed it, they have some that they use very well, i'd love to see more of our military stuff send to ukraine (like more Ceasar, scalp and amx) but with what we have as head of state it's pretty hard...
@@downeedles9249 Isnt the Griffon being a wheeled tank cheaper than average tanks and built to easily be mass produced? Of course France (or other western countries) being limited due to economic troubles is underdtandable, I think sending at least some to test them is very important. What if they have a crucial weakness that has not been discovered yet? Or if there is a way to improve on them by adjusting or additing a little extra?
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Israel massacre des civils ils n'ont pas besoin de ça pour tuer des enfants!
This too
One RPG and all those features go kabooom. What a waste.
Is just me or all these types of vehicles are made for coin war and not a full country to country war?
Just because it's tall for IED and mine protection doesn't mean its bad at high intensity, if you think it's maybe a bit small or look "air transportable" remember he French military is an expeditionary force, with a homegrown survivable nuclear deterrent, so the defense of mainland France isn't much of a concern its design to fight abroad
there is a great analysis of the French military on perun's channel, highly recommended if you like in depth stuff, also one on Japan Germany Turkey Poland and many others on top of other content on military conflict and warfare, the guy is brilliant
How about no
Only 2 kilometers per gallon WOW
They were talking litres, not gallons. Pay attention.
With heavy vehicles like this the rate is flipped. It's not miles/gallon, it's gallons/mile. A 1:1 ratio is pretty good. Tanks are much worse.
@@johnsmithe4656 -- it comes out to about five miles per gallon if you use USA gallons.
We use real units here, no stupid queen elisabeth shit
More false information.
Nice try Dark Tech, you had me until you stated the vehicle was fitted with a Renault engine lol.
In fact, It's a Volvo motor with a Renault Trucks (which is appart from Renault/cars) Badge.
Renault engines do well in Formula 1, and this company only invented the modern tank.
@@Clif77x you're right, Renault engines are so terrible, even Mercedes use them.
Cope
Why would they make such a big APC with basically no armor? It has glass in front, it will not survive even small arms fire.
No one knows, and it hasn't been really battle tested, except in Africa probably, lmao. That is why I say, don't hype up these things that are only in simulations so far. France is interesting but similar to Russia, it may be the case, once used we see it isn't barely/anything close to the older 90s NATO tech that was already battle proven.
@@johncherskov5755 90s combat proven NATO tech....lol
@@johncherskov5755 Wake up man and stop smoke weed !
have you never heard about armored glass ?
:D:D:D Don't need to penetrate it. One hit in this "armored glass" and it cracks in such way what you lose all visibility. @@nippon19