The Bullet Banned for Its Destructive Power

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  • Amidst the vast array of .50-caliber rounds, one name emerges from the shadows - the infamous Raufoss Mk 211, a true force to be reckoned with. This enigmatic ammunition, boasting a multipurpose anti-material high explosive incendiary/armor-piercing nature, possesses the ability to render moderate armored vehicles and helicopters helpless before its might. The fervor surrounding this munition has captivated military enthusiasts and experts alike, as its reputation precedes its every deployment.
    However, its immense indiscriminate power comes at a cost, prompting certain governments to take action and ban its use when enemy troops are in the target area. Despite this, fervent debates persist, with some staunchly advocating for its continued presence on the front lines. In hushed tones, it has even been hailed as the ultimate .50-caliber round available in the market today.
    While the allure of the Raufoss Mk 211 cannot be denied, the controversy surrounding its extraordinary potency has ignited a fiery discourse. The question lingers: should such a weapon of unparalleled destructive prowess be wielded, or is its restriction a necessary safeguard in the face of its awe-inspiring capabilities? As nations grapple with the dilemma, the legend of the Raufoss Mk 211 only grows, whispered amongst military circles with reverence and trepidation alike.

ความคิดเห็น • 636

  • @Semper_Iratus
    @Semper_Iratus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +248

    No such thing as overkill when your life is on the line.

    • @nexpro6118
      @nexpro6118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly.....weird how the people who have never been in a gun fight, are the ones who say/write how gun fights are/go and how a person in a gun fight should react lol. Pretty ignorant AND arrogant at the same time

    • @wilemelliott
      @wilemelliott 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Maxim 37:
      There is no "overkill."
      There is only "open fire!" and "reloading!"
      -The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries
      ― Howard Tayler

    • @Haza3137
      @Haza3137 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nexpro6118 okay thanks for posting the same comment under every every comment

    • @kevinb.8649
      @kevinb.8649 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s not true. How about stop relying on war to solve problems all together and actually put in the real hard work. Creation will all ways take more energy than destruction. Destruction is easy fixing the problems and creating is hard.

    • @timan2039
      @timan2039 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Except we, the military, are not Mercenaries.

  • @nicholasthomas4382
    @nicholasthomas4382 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +331

    The idea of banning a BULLET in a time of artillery and guided bmunitions seems absolutely silly, no matter how effective it is.

    • @nexpro6118
      @nexpro6118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Exactly.....weird how the people who have never been in a gun fight, are the ones who say/write how gun fights are/go and how a person in a gun fight should react lol. Pretty ignorant AND arrogant at the same time

    • @widowmaker7831
      @widowmaker7831 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      The idea that this bullet is the banned one, yet we are perfectly ok with using depleted uranium rounds on the battlefield and just leaving them there...But that small arms nuclear warfare is ok apparently

    • @danor6812
      @danor6812 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Common sense dictates that in a war you want what is best to kill an enemy with. So banning these baffles me.

    • @timan2039
      @timan2039 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Depleted uranium roads are not a radiological threat. The material is used because it’s dense

    • @timan2039
      @timan2039 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To a point unless you’re good with NBC warfare. As far as these rounds I would not want to shot with one. The restrictions against use against personnel is very reasonable.

  • @Sugarsail1
    @Sugarsail1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    0.27 Lmao when the .22LR started falling while he's talking about a .50 cal incendiary high explosive round.

    • @merv1356
      @merv1356 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The whole video is full of the wrong calibers.

    • @OpenCarryUSMC
      @OpenCarryUSMC หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@merv1356and inert projectiles. BLUE is INERT

  • @stanriley1583
    @stanriley1583 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Banning this ammo is foolish as it is fighting with both hands tied behind your back. When comes to a fight for your life, the only way to not die, is to be meaner than the other guy. History proves this out!!!

    • @patrickjanecke5894
      @patrickjanecke5894 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We are talking about treaties with terms written by 1868 standards. Weapons that wouldn't win a given fight per se, but would lead to horrible, slow, painful deaths were deemed unsportsmanlike. This is 1800's European mentality after all. WWI total war doctrine hadn't been written yet, and even they had rules against hooked bayonets.

    • @MrSimonw58
      @MrSimonw58 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      UFC with biting, eye gouging, nut ripping and hole tearing

    • @nevillehoward8736
      @nevillehoward8736 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed! So, deploying gas soon? To be followed by anthrax and lasers designed to blind?

  • @jkg6211
    @jkg6211 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    War is SUPPOSED to be horrible - and therefore avoided at all costs.

    • @nevillehoward8736
      @nevillehoward8736 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would explain the modern paucity of armed conflict.

  • @Kev-3006
    @Kev-3006 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +152

    It’s a good thing our enemies respect all weapons bans.

    • @Animal.CUT...
      @Animal.CUT... 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      😁😁😁

    • @danor6812
      @danor6812 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      And never use human shields.

    • @jamespope2840
      @jamespope2840 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ya right

    • @Kev-3006
      @Kev-3006 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jamespope2840 Aw c’mon now, where’s your optimism in humanity? 😂

    • @pieterveenders9793
      @pieterveenders9793 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The US and Israel are the most prolific war crime perpetrators and disregard international law more then anyone else on earth, with countries like Russia and China being known offenders too but to a substantially lesser degree.

  • @douglaskerr6813
    @douglaskerr6813 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    When I was in the army we were told you can't use 50 .cal against troops only equipment but uniforms and buttons and ID tags
    And belt buckles are considered enemy equipment

    • @darktoadone5068
      @darktoadone5068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I remember that also in the 80's but they use it now.

    • @Thalatash
      @Thalatash 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was told that in the Army during my deployment to Iraq in 07-08, also. On my truck we had a 240B and the only couple of times we rolled out with an M2 I didn't have to use it. I doubt I would've been in trouble if I did use it, though, only if I didn't.

    • @ifv2089
      @ifv2089 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same with the shotgun and doors wearing flip flops

    • @JohnSmith-fl6qd
      @JohnSmith-fl6qd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Emperor of North Korea uses it to execute people he doesn't like 50 cal machine gun

    • @seanlanglois8620
      @seanlanglois8620 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ifv2089hate them doors

  • @willfrankunsubscribed
    @willfrankunsubscribed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    I mean, I get "No exploding bullets" on smaller rounds against soft targets. It would turn a probable would into a likely kill. It's a humanitarian thing. But .50 BMG (12.7mm) is so large a round, with so much muzzle energy, that hit against a soft target is a probable kill, regardless of secondary effect.

    • @nexpro6118
      @nexpro6118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ...weird how the people who have never been in a gun fight, are the ones who say/write how gun fights are/go and how a person in a gun fight should react lol. Pretty ignorant AND arrogant at the same time

    • @chia_pet7121
      @chia_pet7121 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That's why you aim for canteens and other material equipment.

    • @Crom85
      @Crom85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chia_pet7121🫶🏻

    • @burtvhulberthyhbn7583
      @burtvhulberthyhbn7583 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chia_pet7121yeah that's ok then hahaaaaaa

    • @DUKE_of_RAMBLE
      @DUKE_of_RAMBLE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kentucky Ballistics fired some PLASTIC .50cal training rounds at a ballistic gel dummy, and even that caused insane damage.
      Granted, he was only maybe a dozen yards away at best, but again... a plastic bullet... 🥴
      The call to ban it is more for when a vehicle gets set on fire and the occupants burn alive; inhumane deaths. Same for Napalm and White Phosphorus.

  • @the_secret_squirrel
    @the_secret_squirrel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I may have missed one earlier, but it took me until 9 minutes in to finally see a .50 weapon on a video about .50 ammunition.

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      You mean to say that that pile of 22LR _isn't_ HEI-AP?!? 😮😢😭

    • @getinthespace7715
      @getinthespace7715 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MostlyPennyCatI was chuckling about that one.
      Someone has a sense of humor in the editing room.

    • @CHarris1066
      @CHarris1066 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shows .30 cal machine gun
      "The Barnet .50 cal" 😂

    • @OpenCarryUSMC
      @OpenCarryUSMC หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@getinthespace7715nah, it’s just AI crap.

  • @dennisross3477
    @dennisross3477 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    It's a bad ass round for defeating the enemie and the cover they use. Sounds like a win-win to me.

    • @nexpro6118
      @nexpro6118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ...weird how the people who have never been in a gun fight, are the ones who say/write how gun fights are/go and how a person in a gun fight should react lol. Pretty ignorant AND arrogant at the same time

  • @bobhill3941
    @bobhill3941 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It was great to see this round again. I haven't seen the Raufoss Mk 211 since the late 2000's.

  • @dave_bob
    @dave_bob 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    You get hit by a 50 cal it probably won't matter how it's constructed.

    • @kimmer6
      @kimmer6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In the 1960's my dad's friend Rudy had been in the German Army in the Ski Patrol in Norway. He was strafed by a P-51 Mustang and was hit in the calf and his thigh. It killed some of his fellow soldiers. He always limped. One time we went camping at a lake and I saw a very nasty scar on his leg and saw that his calf was missing a lot of muscle as if a shark but the flesh off, then it healed. The pair of 50BMG rounds passed through flesh only and did not hit bone. He said that he passed out in the cold from loss of blood and woke up in a field hospital lucky to be alive.
      In the 1990's I got into 1000 yard shooting and had a 42 pound bull barreled bolt action target rifle chambered in .50BMG. We shot many things with it in the Nevada Desert. One shot broke a Chevy 6.2 diesel cylinder head in half. We enjoyed breaking 2 foot boulders into chunks with it. But the biggest disappointment was in shooting semi truck tires on rims. Where the rounds passed through the rubber, it looked like the area was stabbed with an ice pick...no hole. Where they hit the steel rim, there were holes right through the steel.

  • @stevehaney344
    @stevehaney344 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Considering you put artillery shells in the thumbnail I can only guess they were banned to protect the shooter's shoulder.

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At least it wasn't one of those 9mm bullets. You know that they can blow the lungs out of the body.

    • @joelwatts4071
      @joelwatts4071 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Worse video they have ever done. Show the fucking thing your talking about.

    • @patrickjanecke5894
      @patrickjanecke5894 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was more about slow deaths and unnecessary pain by people already out of the fight. Remember that explosives in 1868 were a wee bit weaker than what is delivered nowadays.

    • @CHarris1066
      @CHarris1066 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The banned "bullets"
      *shows nuke in the thumbnail* 😂

  • @Bestoftheworstfishing
    @Bestoftheworstfishing 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Combat and war should not be fair. Those that want it banned are already at a disadvantage.

    • @patrickjanecke5894
      @patrickjanecke5894 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It wasn't about fairness back in 1868. It was about the winners being burdened by horrific, tortuous deaths long after the battles were over.

    • @kremepye3613
      @kremepye3613 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It seems like the rules are to make it less heinous and easier to stomach, if it was all or nothing and everything goes then maybe politicians would think twice before starting them every two weeks for money.

    • @isaacnorton6251
      @isaacnorton6251 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yep time to bring back mustard gas, and Davey-Crockets.

  • @TheRealRedRooster
    @TheRealRedRooster 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This video must set a new record for the ratio of totally unrelated contents. Looks more like an M240/FN MAG machineguns, 5.56mm ammo and even 40mm AGWs...

    • @bpm990d
      @bpm990d 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah they sprinkled in a little 22LR as well. This channel lost me a long time ago.

    • @Apophis-en9pi
      @Apophis-en9pi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I lol'd hard at the 22LR footage. 95% of the footage is totally irrelevant to the video.

    • @bpm990d
      @bpm990d 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Apophis-en9pi Ever see the movie Airplane? Every time they showed the jet from the outside it was making propeller plane noises.

    • @Apophis-en9pi
      @Apophis-en9pi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bpm990d 😂

    • @TheRealRedRooster
      @TheRealRedRooster 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Apophis-en9pi In the overall picture, those 22LR rounds were just the icing on the cake../

  • @Alex.The.Lionnnnn
    @Alex.The.Lionnnnn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Wait....so we can have missiles and shells of insane size and destructive power, but bullets are bad? I'm missing something here

    • @pieterveenders9793
      @pieterveenders9793 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The reason there is a minimum weight for explosive rounds has to do with humane warfare. If you get hit by, as you call them "missiles and shells of insane size and destructive power" then you're pretty certain of a very quick if not instant death, while getting hit in the shoulder by a hypothetical explosive 5,56 round you might slowely bleed out while suffering from the combined effects of a bullet wound, shrapnel, and who knows what else. So obviously the former is quite humane, the latter is not. As a result, it is illegal in warfare to use explosive rounds with less than several hundred grammes of explosive in them against enemy fighters.

  • @MrJbipes
    @MrJbipes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I must say as a former orator and corporate spokesperson, your voice and diction are a huge reason I enjoy your channels, along with the contant. Thank you.

    • @OpenCarryUSMC
      @OpenCarryUSMC หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ummmm it’s AI generated

  • @_c_y_p_3
    @_c_y_p_3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    These fools complained cuz the special .50 cal round caused too much damage? Um I think but I could be wrong, I don’t think any .50 cal round is gonna be gentle.

    • @nexpro6118
      @nexpro6118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EXACTLY...weird how the people who have never been in a gun fight, are the ones who say/write how gun fights are/go and how a person in a gun fight should react lol. Pretty ignorant AND arrogant at the same time

    • @hotdog9262
      @hotdog9262 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the bullet kills without hitting you. that`s the difference

  • @pegasusted2504
    @pegasusted2504 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    For certain weapons, phosphorus etc, I can see the need for a ban considering the savage nature of the damage inflicted on people. However for a round like this I think it would save more livews than it would take. I mean given that it is so potent against vehicles and the like it would make the attackers more circumspect in their willingness to advance thereby reducing overall the amount of casualties generated. It is more of a deterant round in the way I look at it.

    • @nexpro6118
      @nexpro6118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...weird how the people who have never been in a gun fight, are the ones who say/write how gun fights are/go and how a person in a gun fight should react lol. Pretty ignorant AND arrogant at the same time

    • @ryanparker7258
      @ryanparker7258 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My first thought was the American sniper who took out a Taliban machine gun team consisting of 3 people with one of these rounds who where hiding behind a wall. He loaded and fired and all him and his spotter saw was the wall behind them turn red, he took out all 3 and saved the lives of the troops on the ground. Think he was enjoying the enemy for about 12 hours that day. Typical of people who have never been in a fire fight or never served to say what can/can’t be used.

    • @Kneon_Knight
      @Kneon_Knight 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flamethrowers ore banned, but given that all but the truly suicidal would choose running away rather than being burned alive, you can reasonably argue that they are a very strong deterrent.
      If you want to talk about savage and/or inhumane weapons, look at the photos from WWI and WWII showing those wounded (read: horrifically maimed) by artillery.

    • @pegasusted2504
      @pegasusted2504 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nexpro6118 "Pretty ignorant AND arrogant at the same time"? Oh, you mean like someone assuming what another person has or hasn't done in their life and insulting them based on your preconceived notion? I agree, that is weird. How do you know I haven't served or otherwise had experience with firearms? Also it was only my thoughts and an opportunity for discussion. It wasn't a request for an arse to insult me and give me grief just for the fun of it.

    • @patrickclune3600
      @patrickclune3600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The ORCS are using white phosphorous ordinance in Ukraine today. Did anyone happen to remind them of this rule ? I didn’t think so !

  • @johnhiggs325
    @johnhiggs325 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don’t understand banning this round when militaries utilize fragmenting artillery shells and other extremely devastating types of ammunition against personnel. It’s not like this was designed to inflict unnecessary suffering like pungi sticks or the like.

  • @johnnycircus7463
    @johnnycircus7463 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “You can only use that round on equipment!”
    “…..That dude’s wearing a canteen…”
    *WHUMP*

  • @Theggman83
    @Theggman83 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Maaaan, we got .21 seconds in before we saw an actual .50 cal... 😂 Just bustin your chops. 👍

  • @donovanwilliams5424
    @donovanwilliams5424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The point is effectiveness and ability to destroy the enemy. That's literally the purpose of weapons.

  • @titter3648
    @titter3648 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They say it wont explode when it hit humans. But i have used it with a M2 on a ship when i was in the navy, and you could often see flashes when it hit the water. And the human body is 80% water so i would think it has about the same effect on a body. Plus a soldier has a lot of hard surfaces to hit like magazines and body armor that would defiantly cause it to explode.

  • @georgepalmer5497
    @georgepalmer5497 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I was in the army in 1977 - 79 in Germany we had been firing .50 cal. armor piercing incendiary rounds on the range. Someone brought one of those rounds back to the barracks, and we nipped its nose off the bullet and dug out all the incendiary powder in the tip of the round. When we fired incendiary rounds downrange it looked like no more than a little spark when the rounds impacted. So we touched off the incendiary round, and we were amazed at the size of the flash when the powder caught fire. Luckily, no one was hurt. We took extra special care in removing all the evidence of the incident because the army hates it when soldiers meddle with military grade rounds. We'd have been in big trouble if we were caught.

    • @the_retag
      @the_retag หลายเดือนก่อน

      Taking ammo from the range? Brudi was ging bei euch ab, bei und ham die stress gemacht das man nicht mal Hülsen mitnimmt

  • @KapteinFruit
    @KapteinFruit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've only seen a minute and I have to say that ban is beyond ridiculous. Like someone else said, we have artillery and guided ammunitions. Not to mention atom bombs. How does this make any kind of sense? I think hollow points are also banned, that kind of makes more sense because it splinters and medics are at a loss in that case.

  • @mugin11223344
    @mugin11223344 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is crazy.
    If you are hit by a .50-caliber round, you are DEAD, no matter what .50 caliber round you get hit with.

    • @slidey1788
      @slidey1788 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But this one makes you extra dead

    • @hotdog9262
      @hotdog9262 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the bullet kills without hitting you. that`s the difference

  • @jameswalker3973
    @jameswalker3973 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What do they refer to a .50 BMG round while showing .22LR, .556, .762 caliber weapons?

  • @theldun1
    @theldun1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Okay, what is the purpose of firing a bullet at a person?? To kill or at least disable that person. This ammo just happens to be extremely effective at its purpose. Enough said!

  • @zedorda1337
    @zedorda1337 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Banning never works as intended and won't stop it's use.

    • @oldhag2881
      @oldhag2881 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty has been a great success. Excuse me, lost my mind for a moment 🤣

    • @patrickclune3600
      @patrickclune3600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stupid suggestion, let’s ban war and we won’t have to worry about the most effective way to shred a person or annihilate a group of soldiers in one Big Bang. I know it’s stupid and definitely out of the question in this day and age due to the $$$$ which would be lost, Silly Me !

  • @chuckaddison5134
    @chuckaddison5134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The geneva convention bans any bullet except Full Metal Jacketed rounds from being used aganist personnel. It used to ban explosive rounds under 30mm, but I guess that one has been superceeded or everybody is ignoring it.
    That said, I've noticed a lot of stuff being used in special ops that don't seem to hold to the rules.

    • @oldhag2881
      @oldhag2881 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually, it's The Hague convention. And USA wasn't a signatory.

    • @formerice
      @formerice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We had 12 ga shotguns loaded with buckshot when I was in the US Army. Vietnam era. Very effective .

    • @spasmonaut10
      @spasmonaut10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@formericeDid you happen to mean flechettes?

    • @philgiglio7922
      @philgiglio7922 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@formerice...as a belt buckel type weapon; it would be effective in a CQB situation. Especially if fitted with the duck tail muzzle

  • @jordannichols3067
    @jordannichols3067 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Brah, have u not watched a single guntoobers video? Raufoss rounds are not thaaat crazy....

    • @duanewente457
      @duanewente457 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When a channel has buzzwords such as: "banned" or "destructive" or anything of the like; then shows a clip of 22LR cartridges bouncing around, it doesn't help credibility lol 8:37 for reference

    • @jamesjross
      @jamesjross 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He called it a m82 Barnett. Dark videos are a joke. He just reads press releases over stock footage.

  • @fredorman2429
    @fredorman2429 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I want our troops to have every advantage.

    • @peterrobbins2862
      @peterrobbins2862 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then stop invading other countries

  • @poot111111
    @poot111111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm sorry but, I was rolling laughing at the occasional mix of falling .22LR video bullets when talking about this uber 50 BMG ammo. 🤣

  • @SnakePlisskenTN
    @SnakePlisskenTN 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I'm not so sure this is completely accurate

  • @mrnoobster3954
    @mrnoobster3954 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1) US SOCOM saw effective use of the Raufoss Mk211 50 BMG from the Norwegian military and approached NAMMO for a contract to be supplied ammo.
    2) US gov had Lake City ammunition plant be licensed to manufacture their version.
    3) The cost is more closer to $20. The $75 is what civilian people in US pay if they know where to look.

    • @johnbruner
      @johnbruner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As someone who works 50 cal bullets at LCAAP we in fact do not make that bullet, we get them shipped to us and then make the completed cartridge with our cases.

  • @jasonadams1632
    @jasonadams1632 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    00:28 those are rimfire rounds, 22lr jacketed hollow-points right? I had to back it up and watch it twice. I mean cool video though.

  • @76629online
    @76629online 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    War is hell. It's all about killing the enemy and tearing up all their stuff. Banning a weapon or type of ammo that makes this task easier seems like an oxymoron to me.

  • @j.robertsergertson4513
    @j.robertsergertson4513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Those that don't have it want it banned.!

    • @nexpro6118
      @nexpro6118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly.......weird how the people who have never been in a gun fight, are the ones who say/write how gun fights are/go and how a person in a gun fight should react lol. Pretty ignorant AND arrogant at the same time

    • @pieterveenders9793
      @pieterveenders9793 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nexpro6118 What makes you think those who wrote the The Hague treaty had no military experience, did you meet them?

    • @nexpro6118
      @nexpro6118 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pieterveenders9793 umm...we have these devices today that allows us to look up ANYTHING we want for free....all it takes Is a few minutes of your time to self educate with research, rather than only using that device I talked about to be on social media and look at porn....

  • @Bogie3855
    @Bogie3855 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    There is NO such thing as a round TOO potent. That is what all the research is about. Used to save your life and those around you is the whole idea. Bad guys should pick fights with OTHER people.

    • @nexpro6118
      @nexpro6118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      EXACTLY!!!! ...weird how the people who have never been in a gun fight, are the ones who say/write how gun fights are/go and how a person in a gun fight should react lol. Pretty ignorant AND arrogant at the same time

    • @brealistic3542
      @brealistic3542 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The ar15 is designed to fire a bullet that "yaws" in a human body and leaves unpatchable wounds.
      Apparently these bullets are allowed in the civilian market that's why this weapon is the weapon of choice for mass murders.
      In fact this bullet is so destructive the Soviets designed the same thing for their AK74.

    • @patrickjanecke5894
      @patrickjanecke5894 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The old treaties were not about weapons that could kill even faster. Rather, it was about weapons that killed slowly, after the battle was already over, that were banned. Remember, explosives in 1868 were a little weaker than what modern explosives deliver.

    • @patrickjanecke5894
      @patrickjanecke5894 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brealistic3542 That statement was so bad, it wasn't even good enough to be wrong. A quick google shows that the AR-15 can be made into 12 different calibers, each with their own ballistic niche. For the most part, it's "tacticool" to have an AR-15 more than any other reason, though it isn't a slouch in actual performance. As for that garbage referred to the AK-74, you are misinformed. The AK74 was a Cold War upgrade to the AK-47, as the Soviets were trying to keep up with the NATO rifles in the 1970s.

  • @mattwami
    @mattwami 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I hate how much stock footage they use that has nothing to do with the subject matter.

  • @MisterDeets
    @MisterDeets 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The announcer called the Barret M82 the "Barnet M82". Must not be a gun guy as most firearms enthusiasts wouldn't mispronounce that name in particular.

    • @slidey1788
      @slidey1788 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An AI voice without the I part?

  • @idahosmurf
    @idahosmurf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A person hit by a 12.7mm round, is not going to notice what kind of round it is. Even a 12.7mm near miss, causes injuries. I think the ICRC, needs to stay out of combat "ideas", as they have no clue.

  • @nickfay2359
    @nickfay2359 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Raufoss M211 is frigging awesome stuff. Its a blast to use..

  • @westphalianstallion4293
    @westphalianstallion4293 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The moment my friend left the service and went PMC he loved using HE, incidiary .50cal on HVTs.
    "They wear body armor...they are armoured targets..."

    • @timan2039
      @timan2039 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So a mercenary like such rounds because of body armor when a standard M2 would pass through it? Is the man a sadist.

  • @thehappywanker4298
    @thehappywanker4298 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You are showing for the most part 30 cal m240's not m2 50 cal. Research your subject better. This a poor representation of this round

    • @tomeickhorst6787
      @tomeickhorst6787 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree totally

    • @chuck.reichert83
      @chuck.reichert83 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also don't believe they are banned

    • @tylerbruffy1467
      @tylerbruffy1467 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He does it for clout

    • @tylerbruffy1467
      @tylerbruffy1467 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For people like us to talk and comment more so the algorithm shows it more and he or she or they them or anything. Js

    • @theeasternfront6436
      @theeasternfront6436 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its stock footage. This is how these videos work. Calm down.

  • @tinaann3323
    @tinaann3323 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Well. I saw a .22 long rifle, .223 in a SAW, .308 and one .50 BMG mark2. Good thing I know the difference. A “RAUFUSS” made by NAMMO is simply a Armor piercing, in cinerary HE round. Tracer and non tracer. A very good round. We shoot grey tips all the time! The HAUGE also banned .50 bmg on use against people! So who cares!

    • @pieterveenders9793
      @pieterveenders9793 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The treaty of The Hague does not ban .50 BMG use on people, so you're incorrect there. And if your dumb ass thinks "who cares", well the International Criminal Court does, not to mention breaking the rules of war opens up the legal opportunity to the enemy to do the exact same.

  • @coreydarr8464
    @coreydarr8464 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a former TC would be my Ammo of choice!

  • @MooseBme
    @MooseBme 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funniest Boot Camp lecture EVER:
    "It's against the Geneva Convention, to shoot (people/combatants... ) with a .50 cal!
    And you can't say that you were "just aiming athe their gear!"
    Like their cargo belt, helmet or canteen!"
    Meanwhile...
    "CHECK OUT THESE RECORD-BREAKING SNIPPER SHOTS WITH THE .50 CAL (ON PEOPLE)!"

  • @xm8553
    @xm8553 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Banned for its destructive power, you must be talking about the .223! I mean it will “blow a hole through your stomach if you’re shot,” and the weapon of war that shoots it “weighs as much as 10 boxes!” Oh your talking about actual large caliber bullets that explode on impact, oh ya that actually makes more sense

  • @MrJdebest
    @MrJdebest 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Worried about the moral and ethical issues regarding weapons of war is a paradox.

    • @danor6812
      @danor6812 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They want people to fight nice.

    • @MrJdebest
      @MrJdebest 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @danor6812 Killing is violent, bloody, and ugly. So "nice" is a problem.

  • @sagnikbagchi5076
    @sagnikbagchi5076 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Space Marine: Why are you guys so bothered about my pistol ammo?

  • @paulcoverdale8312
    @paulcoverdale8312 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    20mm version called” the ex wife”❤

  • @harrywagner3877
    @harrywagner3877 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be nice to mention that the Raufoss is .50 caliber and not used in any of the small arms. It's main use is for light armored vehicles.

  • @Johnny-fw9xj
    @Johnny-fw9xj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who would've thought a bullet in a war could ever in a million years be a "danger to personnel"

  • @patriotman9284
    @patriotman9284 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    World War I Germany accused the US of war crimes for using shot guns. "War is hell. You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it." US General
    William Tecumseh Sherman

  • @Adam-nv9zo
    @Adam-nv9zo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I noticed some inaccurate information between about 00:01 to 10:09.

  • @unclebuzz6913
    @unclebuzz6913 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tell the Terrorists They Cannot Use Them !
    Whatever happened to the saying "All Things are Fair in Love and War"...???
    "War is hell" quoted some famous General...

  • @jona_KardCiv1
    @jona_KardCiv1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Winning in battle is a war crime.

  • @maxhengst2252
    @maxhengst2252 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Isn't the objective, he who has the best weapon wins? Why are people in the killing business upset that this may be too much of a good thing?

    • @Theggman83
      @Theggman83 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We aren't. Politicians are.. mostly because the media makes the public upset...

    • @nexpro6118
      @nexpro6118 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly...weird how the people who have never been in a gun fight, are the ones who say/write how gun fights are/go and how a person in a gun fight should react lol. Pretty ignorant AND arrogant at the same time

  • @patriot9455
    @patriot9455 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A weapon so powerful it makes an enemy not want to fight any more is a safe and sane way to end a war. It is also a statement that says the house of a strong warrior is safe from attack

  • @alexcosta7020
    @alexcosta7020 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the movie Hyena Road, when the SF guys are on the hillside shooting at the potential IED and the leader tells their sniper to load a Rufus, he was referring to this round. The Raufoss MK-211 so it could punch through the pavement and dirt, into the buried munition and ignite it from inside, thus detonating the IED from a safe standoff distance.

  • @limabravo6065
    @limabravo6065 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah ban this bullet, but depleted uranium is fine. A round made from U238 is slightly radioactive and has an added feature of being both armor piercing and incendiary. Like magnesium u238 catches fire and cooks the crews of tanks, apc's etc... so....

  • @marinetech262
    @marinetech262 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Mk 211 round is not "banned" by any current treaty the US is a signatory of. It is still in common use by all branches of the US DOD. The title of the video is either an unintentional or intentional lie on the part of the author.

  • @Rolf_factchecker-Reborn
    @Rolf_factchecker-Reborn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Norway here, our ammunition is widely known. Please talk about Kongsberg Automotive and Nammo aswell🇧🇻

  • @drpepperr
    @drpepperr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dear Mr Dark. You've really outdone yourself with hyperbole in your intro here. Well-played, sir(?)

  • @417jumps3
    @417jumps3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The UN should restrict the sale of that round to ONLY UN military’s.

  • @jeffscott3186
    @jeffscott3186 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The St. Petersburg accords banned specific rounds because they were considered inhumane.They tended not to kill immediately, but maimed leading to a horrific and slow death. Which I believe was the intent. Wounded soldiers can overwhelm an enemy in ways, including morale, that just outright killing them doesn't. The goal wasn't to decrease killing or stop war it was to have less wounded around to deal with. So, in essence, yes war is inhumane, but we don't want it to be this inhumane.
    Looking at the MK 211 and how it functions, I cannot picture it leaving more people wounded than a standard round but being the exact opposite. It would kill those that would be wounded by a standard round.
    I don't remember who said it, but "The only way to make warfare more humane is to win quickly." (something close to that) Seems like this might do that. Or not, with both sides using it.

  • @jacobmcbride9426
    @jacobmcbride9426 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would the rounds incedery be detonated by a soft target. Do they have to hit something hard to activate ?

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Generally a harder target to be reliable, but they work against soft targets most of the time.

  • @putteslaintxtbks5166
    @putteslaintxtbks5166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So it's ok with big bullets (artillery, missles) but not so much with small bullets? Sounds more like big governments who have a big grip on tanks and aircraft, etc. but not so much on what can be moved around on persons?

  • @alhorn2664
    @alhorn2664 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why ban something if it is effective against the enemy?

  • @x_hibernia
    @x_hibernia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It seems dumb to be going after a round of ammo that is a small variant of a family of explosive rounds much bigger and used against soldiers rather than what it was originally made for taking out armour

  • @tomwolfe6063
    @tomwolfe6063 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “ No your honor, this is an anti material weapon . I would never use it on a person. I was shooting at his canteen, sir.”

  • @laughingman7467
    @laughingman7467 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is like sovietwombles doomsday ammo in Arma, when his squad found out the doomsday ammos description of "eliminates cover" during a mission.

  • @andreww1225
    @andreww1225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Makes no sense banning it when the people you fight will use it against you anyway.

  • @TROOPERfarcry
    @TROOPERfarcry 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some dude thinking a millisecond before an artillery shell spreads him over a quarter-mile radius: _"thank God I wasn't hit with a 50-cal... that might've been fatal."_

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's Barrett, not Barnet. I get the feeling I'm taking the "correction comment" bait, but oh well.

  • @michaelpcoffee
    @michaelpcoffee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This isn't the first time we have banned a weapon because it's too mean to our enemies.
    Exquisite irony.

  • @alhubele654
    @alhubele654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So is it worse getting hit with this bullet than getting blown to pieces buy a regular artillery or morter shell?

  • @Aaron-zu3xn
    @Aaron-zu3xn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the smallest changes can make a huge difference in war when they introduced the acog optic the marines got accused of war crimes they thought we were executing people because it turned your average shooter into a headshot machine every time

  • @whineywyvern5269
    @whineywyvern5269 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Raufoss: “Hey kids, wanna see a dead body?”
    Kids: “Yea!” “YEEAAAH!!” “Yes please!”
    Raufoss: “TOO BAD, HIT EM WITH THE 211, NOTHING BUT BOOTS AND PINK MIST NOW, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
    Some Raufoss exec probably….

  • @silentabove119
    @silentabove119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The round isn't banned. It is still very much used by military snipers and in use in the various iterations of the M2.

  • @josephpacchetti5997
    @josephpacchetti5997 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is a serious round.🇺🇸

  • @museves
    @museves 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Geneva convention: you can kill, but with less damage 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @UnicornMeat512
    @UnicornMeat512 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here's my opinion that nobody asked for. I first went to Iraq in 2006. We were a light recon unit. We drove around in uparmored humves. We had a lot of problems with corruption within the local Iraqi police and army. We didn't trust them in the slightest. We couldn't. Imagine our surprise when we were on patrol one day and we drove through an Iraqi police checkpoint to find a frigging t62 on the side of the road. Our largest capabilities were M2 .50s and mk19 grenade launchers. We couldn't do anything against that tank if we had to. Needless to say, I talked to the commander, and we got some sabot rounds for that .50. At least we could get a mobility kill on an older tank if we maneuvered well. Also, we got a few AT4s, but that doesn't have anything to do with the video. This ammo is necessary.

  • @Kneon_Knight
    @Kneon_Knight 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Given the fact that war is already illegal, one would think that the munitions used would be irrelevent.

  • @eriknewman5288
    @eriknewman5288 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All ammunition is a hazard to personnel. Treaties and bans limit human innovation.

  • @thomrauscher926
    @thomrauscher926 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No one talks about depleted uranium, fallout lasts forever.

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DU really isn't used in small arms ammunition beyond some experimental ammo. The TH-cam channel Oxide has a video testing them, but he had to go to pretty extreme lengths to get it.

    • @thomrauscher926
      @thomrauscher926 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 I've heard about mass birth defects in Iraq after the first(?)

    • @thomrauscher926
      @thomrauscher926 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pt 2 War- are they using them in Ukraine? We might hear about it in 10 years...

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thomrauscher926 yeah, it's used in tank munitions and is littered all over Iraq and now Ukraine. It's not so much the tiny amount of radioactivity but heavy metal toxicity that's the problem. Just like lead or mercury but uranium is hard and brittle so a lot of it is powdered on impacts and burns putting a bunch of uranium oxides into the area that can easily turn into soluble salts that build up in people's and animal's bodies. It works great for armor penetration but the after effects are not worth it and lead to a lot of sickness and death.

    • @thomrauscher926
      @thomrauscher926 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 thanks for sharing, you seem very knowledgeable.

  • @Steven-p4j
    @Steven-p4j 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are you showing mostly .308 ammo and not the actual .50 BMG?

  • @jeffjames4064
    @jeffjames4064 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In war you do what you have to do, but i wouldn't wish a phosphorus round on my worst enemy.

  • @jonnywatts2970
    @jonnywatts2970 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wait, how is a bunker a soft target?

  • @scottterry1659
    @scottterry1659 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing how John Moses Browning invention can be so good even today

  • @mickleblade
    @mickleblade 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you're shot by a basic 50 bmg you're dead, if you're shot by this fancy round you're even deader? Eh?

  • @fredweaver-q6g
    @fredweaver-q6g 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So will the enemy ban it ? just like the rules of engagement its designed to give the enemy the advantage.

    • @pieterveenders9793
      @pieterveenders9793 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Hague Convention is internationally binding, so by definition it is banned for everyone.

  • @PunkRockOilOi
    @PunkRockOilOi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In war you fight to win and this is a battle winner 🏆

  • @bmstylee
    @bmstylee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Barnett M82? Is that the Barrett we have at home?

    • @jamesjross
      @jamesjross 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These "dark" videos are shockingly bad. Full of this crap.

  • @jimmyfaherty8588
    @jimmyfaherty8588 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $75 a round?!!!!! Did I hear that right?

  • @uku4171
    @uku4171 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're not supposed to ban a weapon until both sides have it.

  • @stephenfowler4115
    @stephenfowler4115 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's just ridiculous. There's no way to use this ammunition without affecting personnel