True, but so few QP players would suspect a LW that 100% more may still be a low enough incidence of reports to avoid ever getting banned. Presumably that's why he chose LW in the first place.
7:13 that poor junk. The hacker didn't even make a mistake, the doom didn't target until after the pull, poor junk was just a bit disoriented there and didn't know what to do.
This is whats truly sad, their genuinly pretty damn good. But instead of just working on their aim and improving their own skill they would rather just buy cheats and have it do all the hard work. Just depressing
I bet he was trying to improve his aim with wrist-aiming which is one of the worst forms of aiming to improve upon (depending). He got frustrated that he wasn't getting results so he shifted to cheats. Aiming by moving your arm with the mouse will improve your aim significantly.
hard work? I have actual hard work to do so I won't starve, why do I have to sweat every single game to have any fun... u can be goofing around n blizzard will ban u for sabotage... so no winning, no lollygagging, 0 fun unless u cheat
@@SplendidFactor yeah tbh arm aiming is better. I play console but i played some fps games on laptop with a mouse and using my arm with lower sense was just so much better, even got some sniper flicks which felt really good. Dont like having to reset the mouse all the time tho but another thing to get use to ig
@@therickeffect7466 As someone who's been arm aiming for a long time you get so used to resetting the mouse that you start to do it unconsciously. I reset my mouse constantly but it's not something I think about I just do it.
which is weird because maybe he's weak on the offense but he's difficult to kill with most of his kit being evading tactics and self healing. he can just kite you into his team.
@@I_Of_ProvidenceI got chased down by a Junkerqueen as lifeboi. Her team died to mine and I was able to make it back up to my team just for her to get annihilated lol
@@ingwiafraujaz3126 when asking a question, usually there’s a question mark (ie:?) at the end of your question. Did you ask everyone who commented before me? Or just me?
I'm honestly betting they just wanted to try it out (not saying its good to do), it's an interesting experience seeing cheats from the POV of the person who uses them.
The reaper was by himself in the backline, at mid range, and LW had a mercy pocket. There's basically no reason for him *not* to just kill that reaper.
As a newer player with 30 something played hours, my take on quickplay is if you are going to play the game then play. To a degree I understand the mentality of it's quick play so the matches don't matter as much, but here's the thing for me. I'm trying to get to a point where I can go competitive. I'm trying to get an understanding of the game and it's hard when that mentality leaves me feeling not knowing if it's me or the team because I don't know if people were making good decisions or not. It's because I don't have the game sense to know. So if people are doing things like that it's hard to know if I'm doing the right things. Like if for example I'm doing the right things and I have 1-3 team mates messing around and doing their own thing how do I know? How do I learn and develop good habits? I understand just play competitive though I don't want to be the reason 4 people get a loss not being confident in knowing if it was me or not.
as someone who plays him all the time its really a bummer to see, on all the characters I've played heavily, I feel like he is powerful enough without them and his damage is already very good along with his range and abilities so yeah this concerns me
I just started playong Ow 2 in March and I just experienced my first aimbot game. It was a Cass with a mercy healing and damage boosting. Then the mercy had the nerve to say mercy diff. They were promptly reported. They had a level 1 endorsement level to which I assume is due to the fresh account. The cassidys name was odd like this, "[[]]" I just don't understand aim botting on quick play unranked. Lol.
I think a lot of cheaters miss on the fact that cheating and aim hacking only really takes you so far. Like if you have perfect aim, sure that would be nice on some characters, widow, maybe soldier 76 or Ana, but without that game sense or just overall knowing the strats, safe exits if you're pressured, or when to use your abilities appropriately you're still gonna be awful. You just now can hit 100 percent of your shots, which is nice but you can't depend on that
If I can say one good thing is, at least this Lifeweaver wants to shoot enemies. I played with a 100% healbot Lifeweaver who wouldn't switch and we lost badly.
Every time I hear flats talk about how if people want serious games they should play comp, I fail to understand how it is so hard for him to realize the reason people want quick play to be more serious Is because people still want to play OVERWATCH if I wanted my quick play games to devolve into death match games I would you know play the dedicated death match mode. Until they fix the ranked system and give ranked rewards its not fair to say "just play comp" when we all know comp is fucking horrible to play. You get boosted players, you get throwers, you get people on bought accounts, you get the racist and homophobic people, you get the sexist throwers who see a feminine name and decide its time to throw. Like I don't think I have had a single session of comp in high masters/low gm in the last few seasons without someone completely throwing or being toxic in like 40% of the games. So I honestly get why people want to play quick play because if they get someone whos throwing/being toxic they don't lose rank because of it and they don't have to sit through attack and defense with said person, so saying "just play comp" is incredibly ignorant when you yourself know how miserable comp is.
and you dont realize that your solution to comp being horrible to play is to make qp horrible to play you are the reason comp sucks go be with your kin and deal with it
@@isaiahf-d846 Just say you lack basic reading comprehension. I quite literally said, I want to avoid the toxic people so I play quickplay. Its really not that far fetched to want people to actually play the game mode they signed up for. If you did what people do in quickplay in literally any other game you would get perma banned so fast because your actively making the game worse, or your actively sabotaging the game. Some of you overwatch players legit have brainrot if you think its at all reasonable to hold people hostage in a game because you want to turn the match into a glorified chat room.
My first cheater encounter was quite sad. He was on Soldier 76, and he didn't miss a single headshot. You could pick Genji and start jumping around at 30 meters away, and he would still track you perfectly
I think i have a theory *i still havent finished the vid* this lifeweaver player likes to play lifeweaver But they probably think lifeweaver is not good enough to defend itself in 1v1 instances, and they probably think the only way to defend itself effectively is hit all of their shots and make the enemy run or kill them instead of only running away but their aim is not good enough so they just cheat to "compensate"
I've seen some LW kill me very fast with some amazing tracking but I have never thought about them cheating, I mean really... Now I know its a possibility.
Yeah I’ve realized after switching to mainly qp after the comp burnout that yeah. Sbmm/rank checks do exist pretty hard in qp as well. I’m diamond-masters on all rolls and the lowest I get in my lobbies are high play low diamond where the highest can be gm5+ qp really is just diet comp lol especially with the new leaving penalties. Nobody wants to leave even if u get rolled so they throw instead😂😅
Man I wish we could see the train of thought for these types of cheaters, what possible reason could you have to cheat even though you are playing a character that 1. barely needs it and 2. you are already decent at the damn game. Just why.
The game sense is definitely higher than gold and plat. He doesn't mess up platforms (hit his head to go up high ground). And the grabs are pretty good.
As someone who plays a lot of Lifeweaver I wish they'd actually make the tracking more precise. I find I often grab or heal the wrong person because my teammates hitboxs are too large. I have to constantly adjust my positioning to get clear LOS on the teammates I think are going to unalive themselves first. The current hitboxs also make it possible to heal around corners and through objects because the tracking box is so large it's still visible. It needs a nerf.
I consider Quick Play to be "average seriousness". It's a competitive game so I play to win, but I'm not that fussed if I lose. I'm neither going to go off on my team-mates for playing badly nor am I going to throw the match trying to dance with the enemy. There's competitive if you want to try-hard, there's the Arcade if you want to play Mordhau.
I love flat he says if it is just a game to you play quick play. TRUE. So why in my competitive games are people saying it's just a game no it's not it's comp play right or play quick play
Crazy you found a cheating lifeweaver first before running into a cheating illari lol like illari makes sense hahaha but i feel bad for the lifeweaver cause it looks like there a good player who clearly wants to be honest player it's just the aim/damage offensive that's not clicking
11:43 Ahm, I mean, what could he do there tho? They were about to touch point, he was basically the only one there, I think tree to get a little bit of survivability was actually his best shot. His tree positioning wasn’t the best, but maybe he would fix that, I do that a lot. Plus, he needed to react fast cause: Window + Visor doesn’t allow you to blink, you’re dead instantly. What would you suggest him to do there? What would you do there as a Top 500? I don’t even understand your point lol
The most selfish unhinged shit you've heard is someone saying they're annoyed by cheaters because they want quickplay to be playable, while in the same breath saying you understand people shouldn't be throwing games and making it unplayable. You usually have a good head on your shoulders not sure what happened here.
Bruh when he decided to not pull the Winston and trust the pocket mercy because he knew his tank had ult, to then save someone else with pull a few moments later… dat shit put a tear to my eye as a LW main. Mans got good game sense, why a Nigga gotta cheat.
Watching this guy is crazy because he's not bad! He's not compensating on lack of fundamentals?? If he just worked on aim training he wouldn't need this kinda stuff
i sometimes hope that the people cheating see these videos of you reacting to them, hear you say that you're disappointed because they wouldn't even be terrible without cheats, and take cheats off after hearing you say that but that is never going to fucking happen and we all know it
Shunning competition in quickplay is still one of the uglier things to see. I'm not saving all my "wanting to win the game" for the same gamemode with a different name slapped on it. I'm also not gonna go play the mode where they grade me like a pay piggy and make me play with only duos and 5-stacks.
Honestly, looking at that match, I feel like the guy was just getting frustrated with his teammates, and thought cheating would help him carry them. Unfortunately, Lifeweaver has basically zero carry potential, and he'd be better off on other supports. Like imagine this guy on Bap.
i think an aimbot symmetra wouldnt make much difference because her range is poor and still has ramp up. also her orbs arent fast enough to benefit from aimbot i feel and even those still need to charge first to deal 100 dmg
I love how universal the shock is of someone aimbotting on lifeweaver of all things.
The cheats made this guy like 15% more effective on LW and 100% more ban worthy
True, but so few QP players would suspect a LW that 100% more may still be a low enough incidence of reports to avoid ever getting banned. Presumably that's why he chose LW in the first place.
7:13 that poor junk. The hacker didn't even make a mistake, the doom didn't target until after the pull, poor junk was just a bit disoriented there and didn't know what to do.
Dps were lost. I see why lw was hacking
Aimbotting on Lifeweaver is next level shameful.
Is it? His DPS is ass.
I'm going to do it on Brig
Imagine aimbotting Reinhardt
Or Winston 😂
@@wusaint sniper monkey is real
No one else noticed winton did and go spinning up like a helicopter ??😂😂 7:46
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LIFEWEAVER?
Can't wait to hear Flat's wheeeze today
This is what happens when a life weaver has Sombra ptsd.
The truest comment anyone has said
As a LW-Main this is stupid. His Heal and Grip have small inbuilt Aimbots anyway. What a shame.
He's cheating for dps not for his heals
@@bradmiles1984
but I feel like still that's less effective than doing this with bap or Ana would be right?
@@naliskun4222More effective = more likely to get caught. Infrequent enough reports = keep cheating forever.
@@naliskun4222 oh I fully agree. Honestly bap or Illari would be most effecting with their high dps.
Hes cheating on LW because its less obvious, as the time to kill on LW is super long. If you cheat on Ana or Bap, it becomes instantly obvious.
The widow saying hi then immediately dying was too funny imo
I thought I'd experienced the full spectrum of cheaters but I guess I was wrong lol. Worst part is nobody would suspect a LW of cheating 😂
If I had to guess, he was probably sick of Sombra.
This is whats truly sad, their genuinly pretty damn good. But instead of just working on their aim and improving their own skill they would rather just buy cheats and have it do all the hard work. Just depressing
I bet he was trying to improve his aim with wrist-aiming which is one of the worst forms of aiming to improve upon (depending). He got frustrated that he wasn't getting results so he shifted to cheats. Aiming by moving your arm with the mouse will improve your aim significantly.
maybe he is just a developer testing his cheats who knows, I used to do the same stuff tho I rarely actually cheated in multiplayer
hard work? I have actual hard work to do so I won't starve, why do I have to sweat every single game to have any fun... u can be goofing around n blizzard will ban u for sabotage... so no winning, no lollygagging, 0 fun unless u cheat
@@SplendidFactor yeah tbh arm aiming is better. I play console but i played some fps games on laptop with a mouse and using my arm with lower sense was just so much better, even got some sniper flicks which felt really good. Dont like having to reset the mouse all the time tho but another thing to get use to ig
@@therickeffect7466 As someone who's been arm aiming for a long time you get so used to resetting the mouse that you start to do it unconsciously. I reset my mouse constantly but it's not something I think about I just do it.
He's probably justifying it by believing his hero isn't good enough in 1v1s as other supports, and in his mind this makes it fair.
which is weird because maybe he's weak on the offense but he's difficult to kill with most of his kit being evading tactics and self healing. he can just kite you into his team.
@@I_Of_ProvidenceI got chased down by a Junkerqueen as lifeboi. Her team died to mine and I was able to make it back up to my team just for her to get annihilated lol
I love how he is more frustrated about the player actually being pretty good and cheating than the cheating itself, bless you Flats.
Honestly, it's kinda wholesome when Flats said he doesn't need to be cheating. It's like one of those "I'm not mad, just dissapointed".
This feels like the equivalent of aimbotting on engineer with the rescue ranger
Aimbotting as lifeweaver? This is gonna be weird
truuuue
Why are you commenting before watching
@@ingwiafraujaz3126 when asking a question, usually there’s a question mark (ie:?) at the end of your question.
Did you ask everyone who commented before me? Or just me?
I'm honestly betting they just wanted to try it out (not saying its good to do), it's an interesting experience seeing cheats from the POV of the person who uses them.
Emongg having 3 cats is such a green flag
this lw probably got obliterated and abused 6 games in a row by sombra and couldn't take it anymore. poor lil bro.
hakcing on lifeweaver is a new low for the overwatch community
That LW's got a godly gaming chair my guy
With the matching gamer socks
@@bradmiles1984 fr tho
3:43 “bonjour” 💀💀💀
Ego dueling a reaper is actually insanity right after flats days "good habits" 😂😂😂
The reaper was by himself in the backline, at mid range, and LW had a mercy pocket. There's basically no reason for him *not* to just kill that reaper.
listen if nobody else is gonna kill that reaper you just gotta get in there sometimes
As a newer player with 30 something played hours, my take on quickplay is if you are going to play the game then play. To a degree I understand the mentality of it's quick play so the matches don't matter as much, but here's the thing for me. I'm trying to get to a point where I can go competitive. I'm trying to get an understanding of the game and it's hard when that mentality leaves me feeling not knowing if it's me or the team because I don't know if people were making good decisions or not. It's because I don't have the game sense to know. So if people are doing things like that it's hard to know if I'm doing the right things. Like if for example I'm doing the right things and I have 1-3 team mates messing around and doing their own thing how do I know? How do I learn and develop good habits? I understand just play competitive though I don't want to be the reason 4 people get a loss not being confident in knowing if it was me or not.
As a life weaver main I say there was literally no reason for him to cheat when playing LW
HOLDING TREE THIS LONG IS INSANE
as someone who plays him all the time its really a bummer to see, on all the characters I've played heavily, I feel like he is powerful enough without them and his damage is already very good along with his range and abilities so yeah this concerns me
7:47 helicopter helicopter 🚁
love your ow2 vids. Your reactions are the best
I've been waiting for this day
Lol he wasnt even mad just disappointed
Cheating on LW is a meme in its self
I just started playong Ow 2 in March and I just experienced my first aimbot game. It was a Cass with a mercy healing and damage boosting. Then the mercy had the nerve to say mercy diff. They were promptly reported. They had a level 1 endorsement level to which I assume is due to the fresh account. The cassidys name was odd like this, "[[]]" I just don't understand aim botting on quick play unranked. Lol.
I think a lot of cheaters miss on the fact that cheating and aim hacking only really takes you so far. Like if you have perfect aim, sure that would be nice on some characters, widow, maybe soldier 76 or Ana, but without that game sense or just overall knowing the strats, safe exits if you're pressured, or when to use your abilities appropriately you're still gonna be awful. You just now can hit 100 percent of your shots, which is nice but you can't depend on that
Bros just saying shit
You gotta love the quick emongg cameo...
I assume at the end he was trying to disrupt the window. He died… But that seemed like a good play.
Hey flat what about the one that we're not cheating that people sent ya? I'm curious to see if you can debunk them too
If I can say one good thing is, at least this Lifeweaver wants to shoot enemies. I played with a 100% healbot Lifeweaver who wouldn't switch and we lost badly.
Every time I hear flats talk about how if people want serious games they should play comp, I fail to understand how it is so hard for him to realize the reason people want quick play to be more serious Is because people still want to play OVERWATCH if I wanted my quick play games to devolve into death match games I would you know play the dedicated death match mode. Until they fix the ranked system and give ranked rewards its not fair to say "just play comp" when we all know comp is fucking horrible to play. You get boosted players, you get throwers, you get people on bought accounts, you get the racist and homophobic people, you get the sexist throwers who see a feminine name and decide its time to throw. Like I don't think I have had a single session of comp in high masters/low gm in the last few seasons without someone completely throwing or being toxic in like 40% of the games. So I honestly get why people want to play quick play because if they get someone whos throwing/being toxic they don't lose rank because of it and they don't have to sit through attack and defense with said person, so saying "just play comp" is incredibly ignorant when you yourself know how miserable comp is.
Tldr, only got 3 hours of sleep last night
and you dont realize that your solution to comp being horrible to play is to make qp horrible to play you are the reason comp sucks go be with your kin and deal with it
@@isaiahf-d846 Just say you lack basic reading comprehension. I quite literally said, I want to avoid the toxic people so I play quickplay. Its really not that far fetched to want people to actually play the game mode they signed up for. If you did what people do in quickplay in literally any other game you would get perma banned so fast because your actively making the game worse, or your actively sabotaging the game. Some of you overwatch players legit have brainrot if you think its at all reasonable to hold people hostage in a game because you want to turn the match into a glorified chat room.
My first cheater encounter was quite sad. He was on Soldier 76, and he didn't miss a single headshot. You could pick Genji and start jumping around at 30 meters away, and he would still track you perfectly
I think i have a theory *i still havent finished the vid* this lifeweaver player likes to play lifeweaver
But they probably think lifeweaver is not good enough to defend itself in 1v1 instances, and they probably think the only way to defend itself effectively is hit all of their shots and make the enemy run or kill them instead of only running away but their aim is not good enough so they just cheat to "compensate"
Gettin dizzy.....which starter did you choose
I've seen some LW kill me very fast with some amazing tracking but I have never thought about them cheating, I mean really... Now I know its a possibility.
Yeah I’ve realized after switching to mainly qp after the comp burnout that yeah. Sbmm/rank checks do exist pretty hard in qp as well. I’m diamond-masters on all rolls and the lowest I get in my lobbies are high play low diamond where the highest can be gm5+ qp really is just diet comp lol especially with the new leaving penalties. Nobody wants to leave even if u get rolled so they throw instead😂😅
To be honest if I was in a game with him I probably wouldn’t notice but also who tf cheats on lw
I think this might be the best suspect player in the spectating cheaters series
Man I wish we could see the train of thought for these types of cheaters, what possible reason could you have to cheat even though you are playing a character that 1. barely needs it and 2. you are already decent at the damn game. Just why.
The game sense is definitely higher than gold and plat. He doesn't mess up platforms (hit his head to go up high ground). And the grabs are pretty good.
Not only bro is aimboting on LW, he is doing it on quick play
Im diamond and this looks similar to my Lw gameplay, except when he gets cornered, that kinda made me chuckle to watch him panick
Lucio has an insanely high skill ceiling..., turn your brain back on
Flats can we talk about how good ur hair looks In this video
Prime wifeleaver gameplay
I encountered a very obvious wall hacking soldier in a mid plat qp lobby the other day. It was funny because we still won
Lifeweaver of all heroes...
Cant wait to see flats aimbot on rein
7:46 WINTON SPEEEN
As someone who plays a lot of Lifeweaver I wish they'd actually make the tracking more precise. I find I often grab or heal the wrong person because my teammates hitboxs are too large. I have to constantly adjust my positioning to get clear LOS on the teammates I think are going to unalive themselves first.
The current hitboxs also make it possible to heal around corners and through objects because the tracking box is so large it's still visible. It needs a nerf.
I consider Quick Play to be "average seriousness". It's a competitive game so I play to win, but I'm not that fussed if I lose. I'm neither going to go off on my team-mates for playing badly nor am I going to throw the match trying to dance with the enemy. There's competitive if you want to try-hard, there's the Arcade if you want to play Mordhau.
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Monke: 🚁🚁🚁
More like Lifetaker
Its perfect he plays lucio, gets no kills in the begging part, and bolts for the widow, True lucio enjoyer : )
I love flat he says if it is just a game to you play quick play. TRUE. So why in my competitive games are people saying it's just a game no it's not it's comp play right or play quick play
Crazy you found a cheating lifeweaver first before running into a cheating illari lol like illari makes sense hahaha but i feel bad for the lifeweaver cause it looks like there a good player who clearly wants to be honest player it's just the aim/damage offensive that's not clicking
Papa flats says: Boi, why u doing this? Put it away ur good without it go play with others in the Sandbox. XD
The only way Lifeweaver is relevant damage wise. lol
I was wondering if we'd ever see an aimbotting Lifeweaver lol.
i do agree this is really sad. dude has potential to get into diamond+ and throws it away.
11:43 Ahm, I mean, what could he do there tho? They were about to touch point, he was basically the only one there, I think tree to get a little bit of survivability was actually his best shot. His tree positioning wasn’t the best, but maybe he would fix that, I do that a lot. Plus, he needed to react fast cause: Window + Visor doesn’t allow you to blink, you’re dead instantly. What would you suggest him to do there? What would you do there as a Top 500? I don’t even understand your point lol
Aimbotting on Moira would probably be more effective than Lifeweaver.
as a Lifeweaver main, I am SO upset... this is shameful beyond anything.
The most selfish unhinged shit you've heard is someone saying they're annoyed by cheaters because they want quickplay to be playable, while in the same breath saying you understand people shouldn't be throwing games and making it unplayable. You usually have a good head on your shoulders not sure what happened here.
ayy thats my report game
I've seen TSB on LW do the same tracking
Looks more like a smurf.
Okay this has gotta be one of the weirdest instances of cheating
An actually decent player on lifeweaver?
All this just makes me sad 😢
Cheating sucks but this feels self-defeating in not improving yourself. It did feel so pointless.
how tall is flats i was watching the baking stream the other day and his shoulder was in line with the FRIDGE
People be aimbotting on whatever at this point
I always just play quickplay because my friends are a mix of console and pc and we cant do comp together lol
This hurt to watch, because they genuinely looked like they were a good player. They did not need these cheats, especially with this hero.
Lifeweaver is too wholesome to be aimbotting on wtf
Bruh when he decided to not pull the Winston and trust the pocket mercy because he knew his tank had ult, to then save someone else with pull a few moments later… dat shit put a tear to my eye as a LW main. Mans got good game sense, why a Nigga gotta cheat.
He wanted to test how good his cheats were so he plays lifeweaver, who has slow projectile speed.
Aimbotting of lw is crazy, although supports are incredibly strong sooo if i was gonna aimbot i would do it on illari or kiriko 💀
It's just a nice chair fr
Lifeweaver main here. My aim is terrible, so I focus heals.
I just don’t understand why.
I feel like by just watching this gameplay he plays like a diamond/master player, way better then a gold player
Truly baffling behavior
Watching this guy is crazy because he's not bad! He's not compensating on lack of fundamentals?? If he just worked on aim training he wouldn't need this kinda stuff
Lifeweaver?
Not Anna, illari, Lucio or zen?
A lifeweaver?!
i sometimes hope that the people cheating see these videos of you reacting to them, hear you say that you're disappointed because they wouldn't even be terrible without cheats, and take cheats off after hearing you say that but that is never going to fucking happen and we all know it
ummmmmmm the ad for this video.............. LOL
Shunning competition in quickplay is still one of the uglier things to see. I'm not saving all my "wanting to win the game" for the same gamemode with a different name slapped on it.
I'm also not gonna go play the mode where they grade me like a pay piggy and make me play with only duos and 5-stacks.
He just wanted to experience the needler from halo
First time seeing someone cheating on LW but also first time seeing a cheater not be a bot
Honestly, looking at that match, I feel like the guy was just getting frustrated with his teammates, and thought cheating would help him carry them. Unfortunately, Lifeweaver has basically zero carry potential, and he'd be better off on other supports. Like imagine this guy on Bap.
What’s left? Aimbot Moira? Winston? 🤣
i think an aimbot symmetra wouldnt make much difference because her range is poor and still has ramp up.
also her orbs arent fast enough to benefit from aimbot i feel and even those still need to charge first to deal 100 dmg
I always found life weaver as a downward healer.