This is why other Native NYers should know better than to litter I laughed when I was a teen in the city but now in my twenties realized the hard work it is bc I work for the MTA now
@@jaydottt_transitfanner it’s a lot more to it than just litter as in trash my friend, during closed construction sites over night people sneak in and graffiti things, some steal any leftover equipment and or tools even something basic like cones.
Ah, those wheel - on - track squeals in the first 10 seconds of this video are music to my ears! Real New Yorkers don't bitch about the noise, they sleep to it! 🇵🇷🇺🇸😎
The real solution is to upgrade these lines to CBTC signalling and replace these unnecessary IJs with welded joints to smooth out the ride and reduce noise.
@@TheRailLeaguer That is because the conventional signals are still in use and the steel wheels of the subway trains emit steel dust in subway tunnels.
@@TheRailLeaguer I'm pretty sure what they we're mentioning is that CBTC Signaling would not have this issue with Electrically Conductive dust affecting the blocks with Fixed-Block signaling on the tracks.
Mta subway system are o.k. but for buses are the worst. The majority are unprofessional insensitive and over paid. If your running to catch the bus they don't care and continue on like nothing happened.
Why not just use vacuums and brushes to disturb/dislodge the stuff? Why bother messing around with magnets, and weighing your findings, other than to generate statistics.... If the metallic stuff isn't good for it, neither can the dust and other non-metallic stuff, so just go in there with powerful vacs, brushes, jets of compressed air, and what not to dislodge the stuff and get moving along the way. If magnets and collecting and separating the metallic pieces is crucial, put the magnets on the machinery to collect and hold the prized material while the vacuum takes away the rest.
Stan Patterson I agree but there is dust UNDER it could still effect the IJ so they have to hand clean it and some times the vacuum does not pick up all the dust
Non-conductive dust or debris (such as human skin cells, paper, etc) won’t trouble an IJ as it can’t carry voltage across the insulator. The metallic debris will bridge the electrical gap and cause the track block to falsely show as occupied. Hence, magnets to remove the troublesome metal bits.
The New York City Subway System has always operated in an independent manner. I don't believe that CBTC is the answer as that technology is for new and simple systems. With all of the complexities in the subway system, CBTC could become a liability. The existing fixed block system would work more efficiently (as it always had) if more money was put into it and unnecessary signal timers were taken out.
Blake McNamara Nobody is making the parts for the existing fixed block system anymore, even if more money were poured into the system. CBTC is the new norm, and are not only pushing full steam ahead for full installation on the other lines, they are also testing out something called Ultra Wide Band Signaling to further expedite installation. Everyone else in the world has CBTC, so why not NY? Plus CBTC does work here on the NYC Subway. We have two lines that currently have the system: the 7 line, which just got it installed in 2018, and the first installation on the L line, which is undergoing tunnel renovations at this time. Both lines have very high on time rates due to the CBTC signal system installed. This has resulted in additional trains for each line, all with NO accidents. Another benefit of the CBTC installation is resilience to weather. The example here is the Canarsie Installation, where the transponders on the tracks (which are apart of the installation) have withstood being submerged in salt water for a week and a half to two weeks. The aforementioned tunnel repairs is not for the CBTC system, but rather the concrete cable channels, which are rotting from within due to the salt water. The repair project does include new power substations to let the CBTC system run more trains on the growing Canarsie Line after the cables are fixed. The Ultra Wide-band system will also include weather protections. These are examples on how a CBTC system will work for the rest of the NYC Subway system.
Chante Tulloch the new M is way better than the V. It literally makes all the stops the V did except 2nd Ave (just transfer to the F) and it goes into Brooklyn and back in queens again. I like the route. Although I do miss the 9 train
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the fact that the metal debris is getting discarded in plastic shopping bags is just very endearing
This is why other Native NYers should know better than to litter I laughed when I was a teen in the city but now in my twenties realized the hard work it is bc I work for the MTA now
but IJ's are in tunnels why would anybody go in there and litter
@@jaydottt_transitfanner it’s a lot more to it than just litter as in trash my friend, during closed construction sites over night people sneak in and graffiti things, some steal any leftover equipment and or tools even something basic like cones.
Very nice. Keep going, MTA! I'm a transit fan :)
@Pixel he's last if he's at the top
Ah, those wheel - on - track squeals in the first 10 seconds of this video are music to my ears! Real New Yorkers don't bitch about the noise, they sleep to it! 🇵🇷🇺🇸😎
FR specially if you live nearby the 6 and 4 train since these lines travel extremely close to buildings I could say the same for the 5 and 2
i think a harry potter wand would be more efficient
Lol
Just wingardium leviosa the dirt and trash off
@@cloroxbleach7262 lol
I’m a ravenclaw btw
@@cloroxbleach7262 it means levitate
Super the subway tracks are dirty. Any dirt or debris that interferes with the voltage between the blocks can also delay the subway.
Why not create a cleaning train that can override the system
Look up "VakTrak"
They already had one when the video was made
Does the block system still get used even with cbtc? I still see them on the 7. This for maintenance train purposes or for redundancy?
Usually for maintenance. Much like any other line in the system, the Flushing Line still needs maintenance.
The real solution is to upgrade these lines to CBTC signalling and replace these unnecessary IJs with welded joints to smooth out the ride and reduce noise.
Those workers should be wearing masks.
MTA FOR LIFE
That's nice and all, but where are our CBTC signal technology coming instead of this dated system?
What does that have to do with clearing the tracks?
@@sonicboy678 quite a lot actually cbtc doesn't rely on the track being cleaned at certain points in this sort of way
Lewis Kelly You would still be cleaning the tracks with CBTC.
@@TheRailLeaguer That is because the conventional signals are still in use and the steel wheels of the subway trains emit steel dust in subway tunnels.
@@TheRailLeaguer I'm pretty sure what they we're mentioning is that CBTC Signaling would not have this issue with Electrically Conductive dust affecting the blocks with Fixed-Block signaling on the tracks.
What's with all the Brits in the MTA?
Apparently the natives weren't getting it done...
I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA??
The British Invasion ....2.0
Blake McNamara They have experience with transit.
JeremiahC99 r/woooosh
Peep the SANE perm
Do the one on 36st
yay
Cool
There's nothing more NYC than cleaning up the nasty subway with Chinese take-out plastic bags.
Shea stadium should make its return in Brooklyn
vargskeletor uncut full Chan streams kemp This has nothing to do with cleaning the tracks.
1:34 SANE
Cough Cough. Just use CBCTC.
What does this have to do with track cleaning?
Mta subway system are o.k. but for buses are the worst. The majority are unprofessional insensitive and over paid. If your running to catch the bus they don't care and continue on like nothing happened.
42st or Brooklyn Bridge
His flash lite sitting on the cover of the third rail 750 volt of power you couldn't pay me to go down there...
Why not just use vacuums and brushes to disturb/dislodge the stuff? Why bother messing around with magnets, and weighing your findings, other than to generate statistics.... If the metallic stuff isn't good for it, neither can the dust and other non-metallic stuff, so just go in there with powerful vacs, brushes, jets of compressed air, and what not to dislodge the stuff and get moving along the way. If magnets and collecting and separating the metallic pieces is crucial, put the magnets on the machinery to collect and hold the prized material while the vacuum takes away the rest.
The idea is to stop simply going in there and clearing the stuff away.
older brake shoes contained asbestos. Best to not blow it into the air and spreadit around.
I'm pretty sure they've already been doing that.
Stan Patterson I agree but there is dust UNDER it could still effect the IJ so they have to hand clean it and some times the vacuum does not pick up all the dust
Non-conductive dust or debris (such as human skin cells, paper, etc) won’t trouble an IJ as it can’t carry voltage across the insulator. The metallic debris will bridge the electrical gap and cause the track block to falsely show as occupied.
Hence, magnets to remove the troublesome metal bits.
With all the dust I’ll wear a mask safety first.
Those IJs are using ancient technology. They have to upgrade the entire MTA network to CBTC like EVERY OTHER major subway system around the world.
The NYC subway system is big so that would be a massive and expensive undertaking.
@@jklax Yeah, would cost hundreds of billions
The New York City Subway System has always operated in an independent manner. I don't believe that CBTC is the answer as that technology is for new and simple systems. With all of the complexities in the subway system, CBTC could become a liability. The existing fixed block system would work more efficiently (as it always had) if more money was put into it and unnecessary signal timers were taken out.
Blake McNamara Nobody is making the parts for the existing fixed block system anymore, even if more money were poured into the system. CBTC is the new norm, and are not only pushing full steam ahead for full installation on the other lines, they are also testing out something called Ultra Wide Band Signaling to further expedite installation. Everyone else in the world has CBTC, so why not NY?
Plus CBTC does work here on the NYC Subway. We have two lines that currently have the system: the 7 line, which just got it installed in 2018, and the first installation on the L line, which is undergoing tunnel renovations at this time. Both lines have very high on time rates due to the CBTC signal system installed. This has resulted in additional trains for each line, all with NO accidents.
Another benefit of the CBTC installation is resilience to weather. The example here is the Canarsie Installation, where the transponders on the tracks (which are apart of the installation) have withstood being submerged in salt water for a week and a half to two weeks. The aforementioned tunnel repairs is not for the CBTC system, but rather the concrete cable channels, which are rotting from within due to the salt water. The repair project does include new power substations to let the CBTC system run more trains on the growing Canarsie Line after the cables are fixed. The Ultra Wide-band system will also include weather protections.
These are examples on how a CBTC system will work for the rest of the NYC Subway system.
Blake McNamara No why? What’s your deal? What don’t you like about a new CBTC system that will actually reduce delays in the whole system?
Bring back the v train and the 9 train
Chante Tulloch 9 train was 1 train so that’s covered
Chante Tulloch the new M is way better than the V. It literally makes all the stops the V did except 2nd Ave (just transfer to the F) and it goes into Brooklyn and back in queens again. I like the route. Although I do miss the 9 train
Chante Tulloch V might come back on the 2nd av line with the T being local and the V being express from Houston to 72 where the Q joins
THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CLEANING THE TRACKS.
Useless
Wth 2 cart i thought its 10 cart
MTA should get rid off GSM Marcus Telly. That guy is good for nothing.