I remind you that panic tests do not cause a unit to flee in TOW unless it's below 50% of its models. You only fall back in good order otherwise (and thus unique models can never flee because of a failed panic test). Panic tests are way less punitive in TOW than in previous editions. You should never lose more than 1 unit due to shooting causing panic turn 1, because the other failed panic tests around shall only move units to a maximum of 6". Thanks for the battle reports ! Very entertaining.
Love the Old World content. Big Edit Suggestion/Request: It would probably be better to just leave pictures if the current turn or current and previous if really short on shots, rather than just cycling them from the start of each battle. I know it's more editing, but it makes the game much easier to follow and avoids spoilers. I'm not sure why this just doesn't bother me for the 40k reports, but just doesn't feel good with the fantasy ones for some reason...maybe it's just easier to :read the board: keep up the good work beardling
24:47 - That’s wild LOL.. sometimes that’s why I think it’s better not to just straight mathshammer stuff out. Just there being the possibility of it happening means you’re giving it the opportunity to happen. The difference between a 6+ ward and light armour is huge for this reason.
consider this king layout: smiting, fury, preservation. A little less blendy than the triple fury king but even a single wound can kill or criple any monster or hero.
Tactical use of the line formation is perfectly valid, cheesy linehammer is not. Adopting it defensively like you did was a great move, let us not forget it is a real world tactic and has just as many contextual downsides in the game as upsides. Keep the Old World content coming please!
Wasn't sure about Old World at first. I love Warhammer Fantasy lore but the gameplay seemed very... intense. But, god do I love the Dwarfs. Absolutely spectacular army. I enjoy the Empire, don't get me wrong, but Dwarfs are my favorites fantasy race and Old World Dwarfs are the absolute best fantasy Dwarfs. If I ever get into Old World, it will be for the Dwarfs and I'd love to see more army lists for them featuring some of the more wacky units.
@20:45 @MordianGlory can you provide a bit more details. Previously during the first encounter both your units won combat against the beastmen so both units would have lost Frenzy. Did the have Frenzy during the 2nd combats. Did both of them roll double 1's on primal fury to get the frenzy back?
I’m confused, are you not supposed to be deciding the fate of Thanatos today? 🤔 Do you ever plan on doing an Old World narrative event on the same vein as the Fate of Thanatos? Would 1000% be up for that.
Tweek your list a bit. Switch a unit of Longbeards for a unit of Rangers. Still have great weapons but also crossbows. Good BS and stand/ shoot. Trade that extra Thane for a Rune Smith. Gives you some dispell and boosts a unit with flaming attacks and armor bane.
There is nothing wrong with linehammer. This is what makes infantry able to compete. It has its disadvantages, so it is really far from being op. Congrats on your appearance!
I love that people entirely forgot that horde formations existed in 8th which was much worse. Anyway people affraid of line hammer dont play enough . Blocks of infantry need all the help they can get
Brother. You hurt my soul when you said you prefer the organ gun to the hellblaster 😂... next time you play empire just take as many engineers as the comp will allow (3 normally)... the re-rolls are clutch. Love the after action report content 👊
I personally prefer Ironbreakers with a king and long beards with a thane similar to the one you had. And recently i've almost abandoned my warmachines though i've found that Rangers are great
I have played a few games as dwarves versus a very good beastmen player. Dwarves are at a great disadvantage versus the beastmen. The beastmen army you played was not what I would call a highly optimized tournament list but a lot of people are limited by models. More than one unit of beast infantry is a waste and a handicap. Even then the only thing they are good for is a doombull support unit. I am curious if the beast player was using thunderstomp, that is usually just hellish against dwarves but the keyword thunderstomp is missing from the gorgon data sheet even though as a behemothit has thunderstomp. Easy to miss this if you are a new player.
Dwarfs have quite a few armies with which they are disadvantaged. Wood Elves will shoot you down before you get there. Same for the Empire. Our cannons compared to the Imperials are a laughable joke. We have a lot of problems with the dragon for this reason too. I have played a few games against these armies and I am with these rules feeling helpless.
@@grlmgor While rangers stand a chance against glade guard, iron drakes will never get an elgi into drakegun range unless you kneecap them first. Even rangers are at a disadvantage, since asrai bows have extra 2'' range on xbow and asrai special arrows hurt a lot.
You know, Old World is barely 5 Months old. If one wants to paint good it's gonna take some time.i would not want to just buy a ton of rare plastic, jerk some colours on it just to play tournaments early. I think it's okay to play grey tournaments for the first year.
@@hpenvy1106 a 3 round tournament is like 7-8 hours, can paint at least a third of that army in that time, 2 months is more than enough time to at least put basecolors down
Yeah it’s sad to see. I’m always a bit upset when an opponent turns up with an army of half primed or grey models. It kills any immersion. I have never and will never field a single mode that isn’t painted up fully and based to parade ready standards. Obviously don’t expect that from everyone but it feels a little… insulting when i’ve spent hundreds of hours painting my army and the other person can’t even be bothered to get some base colours down.
Linehammer is a dark stain on TOW imho, there are very few scenarios where you would not want to utilize this "tactic". My local group has limited the number of models in the front rank to 10 as a "house rule" and I hear our local TO's have followed suit. Having said that all is fair in competitive play.
Id rather have it be "only adjacent models get a supporting attack" issue with a fixed width is everything becomes that width. When it's enemy width +2 as the cap it's more dynamic
@@stepansraka3608 Ya people try harding would still do linehammer regardless. Some infantry is pretty weak but not every unit is, TOW needs some major balance tweaks imho
Oh boy, I hope peoples hatred towards not yet painted armies doesn't become the defining trait of the TOW community. The comment section's a little obnoxious today.
those gorgon regen saves sounded suss A F. *THAT GOES IN THE BOOK!*
I remind you that panic tests do not cause a unit to flee in TOW unless it's below 50% of its models. You only fall back in good order otherwise (and thus unique models can never flee because of a failed panic test). Panic tests are way less punitive in TOW than in previous editions. You should never lose more than 1 unit due to shooting causing panic turn 1, because the other failed panic tests around shall only move units to a maximum of 6".
Thanks for the battle reports ! Very entertaining.
Good to know, thank you!
"Hackin' and whackin' and smackin'"
Love the Old World content.
Big Edit Suggestion/Request:
It would probably be better to just leave pictures if the current turn or current and previous if really short on shots, rather than just cycling them from the start of each battle.
I know it's more editing, but it makes the game much easier to follow and avoids spoilers. I'm not sure why this just doesn't bother me for the 40k reports, but just doesn't feel good with the fantasy ones for some reason...maybe it's just easier to :read the board:
keep up the good work beardling
I really liked the way you broke down the battles. I was painting my dwarfs while watching!
24:47 - That’s wild LOL.. sometimes that’s why I think it’s better not to just straight mathshammer stuff out. Just there being the possibility of it happening means you’re giving it the opportunity to happen. The difference between a 6+ ward and light armour is huge for this reason.
Marhhammer is to give you an idea of what you should need to kill it not to know the full true
consider this king layout: smiting, fury, preservation. A little less blendy than the triple fury king but even a single wound can kill or criple any monster or hero.
Tactical use of the line formation is perfectly valid, cheesy linehammer is not. Adopting it defensively like you did was a great move, let us not forget it is a real world tactic and has just as many contextual downsides in the game as upsides.
Keep the Old World content coming please!
Though much glory was found a the Brayherds have WRONGED US!! Next tournament you must do your ancestors proud and SATISFY THE GRUDGE!!!!
rip and tear until it is done!
A note, my favorite song for shieldwalls is "rome is falling" by civil war.
Woof. Longbeards struggling against 5 point Gors says something.
A well-painted Dwarf army, you love to see it!!! By the BEARD!!
Loving the oldworld content
Those Dwarfs are painted so well!
Yup ,as opposed to fecking disrespectful unpainted units .
@@Wardads1 it’s a game, saying it’s disrespectful to play with unpainted minis is goofy as hell.
@@Wardads1 man the game hasn’t been out for that long, many people don’t have the time to paint a whole army.
Dr Blaxill will be pleased!
need to paint up some Punk dawi
I like these reports! Keep em coming You are inspiraring
Wasn't sure about Old World at first. I love Warhammer Fantasy lore but the gameplay seemed very... intense. But, god do I love the Dwarfs. Absolutely spectacular army. I enjoy the Empire, don't get me wrong, but Dwarfs are my favorites fantasy race and Old World Dwarfs are the absolute best fantasy Dwarfs. If I ever get into Old World, it will be for the Dwarfs and I'd love to see more army lists for them featuring some of the more wacky units.
Great battle reports
Glory to the ancestors
Love the dwarves
If I end out playing this edition it will be for them.
Stubborn axey boys for the win
@20:45 @MordianGlory can you provide a bit more details. Previously during the first encounter both your units won combat against the beastmen so both units would have lost Frenzy. Did the have Frenzy during the 2nd combats. Did both of them roll double 1's on primal fury to get the frenzy back?
Thought 1 unit had the banner that let you keep fury
@@CyrodiilCome Do you know the name of that. I could not find any banner that does that. Banner of Outrage let you reroll primal fury test.
@@rmiller_nub isn't it a chaos banner
@@CyrodiilCome I see you mean the banner of rage under Chaos Warriors. I have to check to see if Beastmen can take that banner.
im experimenting with 3 gyros with clatterguns instead of any artillery, the organ guns and cannons seem a little lackluster at this scale of game
I see you're rocking Highland Miniatures dwarfs, I started collecting an army of those. Good quality I think.
I’m confused, are you not supposed to be deciding the fate of Thanatos today? 🤔
Do you ever plan on doing an Old World narrative event on the same vein as the Fate of Thanatos? Would 1000% be up for that.
I was here to see Skunk beard
MG living the dream.
I see some boy with the “Odal rune” fighting for their heritage 😉
It hurts my nerdy cozy soul, seeing Those big lines of dwarfs…
feel like dwarves are the one army where lines/a big shield wall actually make sense
@sclarke6969 I agree that lines of Shields were actually how they faught in the dark ages
Tweek your list a bit. Switch a unit of Longbeards for a unit of Rangers. Still have great weapons but also crossbows. Good BS and stand/ shoot. Trade that extra Thane for a Rune Smith. Gives you some dispell and boosts a unit with flaming attacks and armor bane.
Marvellous!
There is nothing wrong with linehammer. This is what makes infantry able to compete. It has its disadvantages, so it is really far from being op. Congrats on your appearance!
It’s not op, its just silly.
Please go to more old world tourneys and give us more tourney reports these are great!
honestly pillar of fire is about the best spell in the game.
KOBOLDS RISE UP
omg that gorgon fight was nonsense !
Almost sounds like loaded dice
You didnt bring any runesmith i see
Big unit of Dragon Ogre Shaggoths sounds expensive.
Also, did I misunderstand something? Did he somehow ambush with dragon ogres?
I think it was meeting engagement, right? Opponent rolled a 1 for Dogres, so they had to be placed as reserves in round 2+
I love that people entirely forgot that horde formations existed in 8th which was much worse.
Anyway people affraid of line hammer dont play enough . Blocks of infantry need all the help they can get
Great report! Were are those dwarve miniatures from?
yes please more old world :)
I was waitin for this one. Maybe next will be some bolt action battle reports?
take non-challenge wounds away from combat resolution.
Now you can do line-hammer, but will lose combat res to rank and file
Brother. You hurt my soul when you said you prefer the organ gun to the hellblaster 😂... next time you play empire just take as many engineers as the comp will allow (3 normally)... the re-rolls are clutch. Love the after action report content 👊
Which store has a bar o.O? Typically going to be the one furthest away from me I'm sure 😅
I personally prefer Ironbreakers with a king and long beards with a thane similar to the one you had. And recently i've almost abandoned my warmachines though i've found that Rangers are great
@@vojtaxxxxxxx why put the king in IB and not a thane or runelord? Because the King is strengthening the Longbeards quite a lot.
I have played a few games as dwarves versus a very good beastmen player. Dwarves are at a great disadvantage versus the beastmen. The beastmen army you played was not what I would call a highly optimized tournament list but a lot of people are limited by models. More than one unit of beast infantry is a waste and a handicap. Even then the only thing they are good for is a doombull support unit. I am curious if the beast player was using thunderstomp, that is usually just hellish against dwarves but the keyword thunderstomp is missing from the gorgon data sheet even though as a behemothit has thunderstomp. Easy to miss this if you are a new player.
Dwarfs have quite a few armies with which they are disadvantaged. Wood Elves will shoot you down before you get there. Same for the Empire. Our cannons compared to the Imperials are a laughable joke. We have a lot of problems with the dragon for this reason too.
I have played a few games against these armies and I am with these rules feeling helpless.
Nothing wrong with Gor herds a small unit of 6 with ambush are also very useful.
@@AndrzejWlusek Iron drakes and rangers should melt wood elves.
@@grlmgor While rangers stand a chance against glade guard, iron drakes will never get an elgi into drakegun range unless you kneecap them first. Even rangers are at a disadvantage, since asrai bows have extra 2'' range on xbow and asrai special arrows hurt a lot.
@@stepansraka3608 Rangers have scout and Irondrakes have quick shot.
More dwarfs is always good.
Fabulous
Gorgon is favored by nurgal lol.
You moved your units about on BITS OF PAPER…?!
DAWI!!!
FOR THE KARAZ ANKOR!!!!
"The second game on this channel" ?
Bolt Action squad, sound off!
Sorry for the dumb question but where would you get a dwarf army for TOW now? Old models or used armies from ebay?
Are digital dice allowed at tournaments? A lot of these rolls would have made me paranoid If dice are imbalanced xD
wow, 2 sixes just when you need them in game 1, what are the ods of that??????
So Tomb Kings are just shoved into the “starter faction” category?
For fucks sake…
why are none of these people painting their miniatures?
Painting is hard.
You should lose points in a tourney for an unpainted army
You know, Old World is barely 5 Months old. If one wants to paint good it's gonna take some time.i would not want to just buy a ton of rare plastic, jerk some colours on it just to play tournaments early.
I think it's okay to play grey tournaments for the first year.
@@hpenvy1106 a 3 round tournament is like 7-8 hours, can paint at least a third of that army in that time, 2 months is more than enough time to at least put basecolors down
Yeah it’s sad to see. I’m always a bit upset when an opponent turns up with an army of half primed or grey models. It kills any immersion.
I have never and will never field a single mode that isn’t painted up fully and based to parade ready standards.
Obviously don’t expect that from everyone but it feels a little… insulting when i’ve spent hundreds of hours painting my army and the other person can’t even be bothered to get some base colours down.
Is it fair to say the dwarves are similar to the death guard? They are both slow right?
Yes, and they both smell really bad.
What dwarf musketeer minis are those
All his minis look like prints from Highland Miniatures.
@@generallybadgamers7965 thanks
Linehammer is a dark stain on TOW imho, there are very few scenarios where you would not want to utilize this "tactic". My local group has limited the number of models in the front rank to 10 as a "house rule" and I hear our local TO's have followed suit. Having said that all is fair in competitive play.
Id rather have it be "only adjacent models get a supporting attack" issue with a fixed width is everything becomes that width. When it's enemy width +2 as the cap it's more dynamic
@@janehrahan5116 Absolutely anything is better than all models in the front rank get to attack
Linehammer is just a side effect of most infantry being laughably bad for its points in this edition.
@@stepansraka3608 No? The two are unrelated, cut every infantries points in half and you'd still have linehammer. Not every problem is linked.
@@stepansraka3608 Ya people try harding would still do linehammer regardless. Some infantry is pretty weak but not every unit is, TOW needs some major balance tweaks imho
Dwarfs! 🏔️
That Gorgon fight was bs dude. I don't buy it frankly haha glad you got it in the end
TAKE THE DAWI ZHAR (chaos dwarfs) YOU COWARDS :D
Mordian are you using printer paper as movement trays? 😂
Yes! I shamed myself by forgetting my actual movement trays xD
Strange that you Thumbnails are not in the Video.... THEY SHOULD SHOW. But they dont???!!
You beat the beastmen in combat, don't they lose frenzy... not sure they can get frenzy;] maybe you ment primal fury...
Daemon princes are terrible in ToW, no idea why you'd give one frenzy 😅
For the algorithm
Oh boy, I hope peoples hatred towards not yet painted armies doesn't become the defining trait of the TOW community. The comment section's a little obnoxious today.
Mustard is the best hotdog topping
Dorfs
👍👍
A fun report but that Beastmen list is not competitive (Not to mention the Ghorgon is Stubborn)
Linehammer is one of many reasons OPR is gaining traction.
Your movement trays suck dude 😂. Otherwise, no notes 👌
Dealt with the scrolling of your supporters for 10+ before it became too annoying and stopped the video.
wdym it only lasts a few minutes