I love that you play a lot of state troops and not just the current steam tank/griffin/demigryphs/archer circus train. Hope state troops will get a point reduction soon, to make the empire what it should be :D
I disagree, template weapons got a double nerf with everything on bigger bases and partial hits coming back, as an empire player my mortars stay at home
Glad to see you enjoying the Empire, nice to see the state troops getting a run out. I am building an army up at the moment based on blocks of infantry with Knight support.
Wp with your state troop and artillery list, showing off the power of steel and gunpowder. If you want some faith, you could substitute the general for a high priest of ulric or lector of sigmar for 11 more points kitted out with the sword of might, heavy armour, shield and the white cloak. For the same defense and offensive output (minus the dragon bow and the ld of 8) you get some powerful faith in your army. FOR SIGMAR!!
Just to confirm that they are playable, played two games with double motars. First game I bonked a Giant to death and a orc boss on chariot. Only missed twice against other units on the first turn. Then second game first turn: rolled misfire, rolled a 1, tried again with my second mortar, rolled a misfire, looked into camera, rolled a 1
Hey dude love that you're doing old world, hope to see more! Going to my first RTT Saturday and torn between my beastmen and dwarves but I think this video makes the beastmen sound like a ton of fun. I have only played some low points games so far but at 2k they almost sound like a mix of GSC and world eaters from 40k which sounds like a blast.
31.51 you're talking about the mage refusing the challenge, if I'm not mistaken they were in a line with no second rank, one rank units can't decline challenges as there's no back ranks for the challenged to hide in.
its all been changed in this edition Nowhere To Run Sometimes, a challenge is simply impossible to refuse. A character or champion cannot refuse a challenge if: • They are not part of a unit, or they are the last remaining model in a unit. • They are part of a unit which is engaged in all four of its arcs (i.e., a unit that is completely surrounded). as you can see they can still refuse and hide behind a single model
Love your army. Great vid. It would help if the pics corresponded to what your are explaining. Minimum the battle lines at the beginning being shown during the explanation. Thanks for sharing :)
Great battle report. Previous one you had the sequencing of photos better in time with each round and stage. Appreciate difficult editing but would be great to see the photos matching the time of the game. Cheers. Keep it up!
So glad to see how much everyone is getting behind Old World.. As a rule set I just can’t help but feel it’s better. It just feels like Warhammer.. Sorry but anything after 7th Ed for 40K is really just a different game.
Great Video brother. I'm gonna make an outlandish guess that when you play more competitive events you will see it's actually MONSTERhammer. You need to be able to deal with the Chaos Dragon/Star Dragon/Terrorgeists. I love what you're trying to achieve, ust consider planning for these terror causing "unkillable" flyers. I know you love the Stank but its useless vs these very competitive armies imo. It blocks the 2nd hellblaster as well, which I think is our best unit. Good luck with your list evolution though man. HOLD THE LINE
Something about dwarfs. I remember playing against them with my brets on the mission where you need to kill a percentage of the opponets army and you win. I nearly tabled the dwarf player but most of his points were in a hammeror unit with 2 characters. So I need to charge the hammerors and kill like 5 of em to win the game. I charge 2 units of knights of the realm, a grail knights unit, and a duke on Hippogrif into the hammerors. 2 units on the flank. After the dust has cleared I've killed a champion and 2 hammerors. He killed my grail knights to the man, and crippled both realm knight groups and wins the game lol
Great round up! I'm 50/50 on stream tank...it never dies and is an anchor to battle line....but it never does much either and often stymied by cheeky pillar spells. It's a whack of points, I'm leaning towards 2 helblaster instead
Six misfires in a row, is a 1 in 6 each time you roll. So six in a row is 1 in 6x6x6x6x6x6 so 1 in 46656 Newark, the town where GW started, has a population of about half that, so grab the whole population of that town and get them to roll six artillery dice from each hand, one hand will roll as you rolled.
The mortar is a one in a 6 to the power of 9 chance! That being said.. you’re throwing enough artillery dice per turn that you’re odds on for one misfire per shooting phase. With the engineers though that should be one double misfire per game. Strange that it happened to the mortar first turn every game though! And there’s no accounting for that 1 on the black power misfire table each times
Tbh that dopleganger combo should never had existed, some people making lists try too hard to bend rules on their favour, i bet that first guy was insufferable to play against
I only played one event before the FAQ and didn't come against the mace. However as an imperial player I would have argued till blue in the face that the 2d6 attacks at S10 profile was a bad reading.
Really cool. FWIW, it seems like bully infantry blocks have been your main risk factor over the two tournaments? This one but also the black orcs last time out. That seems very addressable.
I know the volley gun is a powerful artillery unit but for the same points I'm interested in trying a unit of 6 outriders with a unit champion. It won't have the maximum damage out put of the volley gun but 18 shots per turn isn't bad, plus they have all the flexibility that comes with being fast cav.
BIG OOF FOR THAT MORTAR Also, the chances of rolling 6 ones in a row is about 1/7776, or about 0.0001286% chance. You should have bought a lottery ticket
A quick question as I see you are using Highland Miniatures models (that I have and love). No one (tournament organisers?) caused you problems for using proxy miniatures and not the official ones? I am told this is a recurring issue for non-GW miniatures owners in GW games tournaments. Thanks :)
People really underestimate seeing something that is toughness 4, when most infantry has strength 3. Also, absolute terrible luck with your mortar. Maybe take another wizard in it's place?
T4 heavy armor and shield. My High Ekf opponent hates it in older editions. He would keep shooting and shooting and only kill maybe 1 or 2 Dwarves. Annoyed him to no end.
I love the flair and style of the army, but Empire without cavalry and a combined arms approach is fighting with one hand tied behind your back. At this point, they're just subpar dawis, aren't they?
@@MordianGlory Yeah that's perfect thank you! Making an Estallian army, have a whole bunch painted already, and just couldn't find the right basing scheme... until I saw yours! Thank you! God bless.
Dwarves might be hard...but their problem is they can't move. Their list has bit of build issue. You said death stars were common. Dwarves can't really build one. Well they can but enemy can just avoid them. And dwarves need to outshoot enemy. If not enemy can just kill some units and then avoid dwarves. Worsened by scenarios being "kill enemy". Ultimately enemy can just kill some 300pts worth of soft targets and avoid combats they can't win. Death stars trap but soft units also risky least enemy just goble few of those for win. Dwarves would benefit a lot if there were scenarios rewarding holding points at center line
I still wish you had some cav, if you ever try swap with steam tank. I was playing greenskins b4 they dropped Warhammer Fantasy, I thought it be cool to have opposite army based (started but never finished passion went with rules) on southern Borderwatch. Being a nappy fan, was gonna do the art/inf/cav set up. Feel some skirmish missile put up to soften assaults. one thing I hate about siege weapons is they are way too random like a bloodbowl game. drop silly morter for missile attachments
Two points against your dwarf opponent that worked against you. 1) Only infantry get the minus 1 to hit from skirmisher so gyrocoptor shouldnt be harder to hit (unless Gyro has some special rule?). 2) You cannot charge turn 1 if you scouted, the rangers would not have been able to charge your mortar
@@MordianGlory tbh i don't have the energy to paint that many men at arms, I can paint 30 knights syilized no problem, but by the 50th brown + a seccondary to match his knight man at arms my eyes glaze over
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I love that you play a lot of state troops and not just the current steam tank/griffin/demigryphs/archer circus train. Hope state troops will get a point reduction soon, to make the empire what it should be :D
FYI: Gyrocopters do not get the -1 to hit for skirmishers, because only unit strength 1 models get the bonus.
I'm at 38 minutes and looked at the comments to post this exact thing.
Could it be true? My favorite video format with my favorite fantasy army? Tis a dream indeed.
I’m loving this OldWold content!
Also love your infantry army! A day in the core is like a day in the farm💪
Dont give up on the mortar until you at least get a couple shots off so we can see what kind of damage it does. Excellent video, thank you very much!
I disagree, template weapons got a double nerf with everything on bigger bases and partial hits coming back, as an empire player my mortars stay at home
Rolling double misfires and a one on the misfire table three times out of three is about a one in ten million chance. (1/6)^9 to be exact.
Hahaha that is hilarious 😂 truly my dice were cursed this day!
It might be the dice, there won't be many artillery dice on the table. Put it in a salt bath.
@@MordianGloryyou should’ve played lottery that dat
@@MordianGlory you should play lottery^^
Glad to see you enjoying the Empire, nice to see the state troops getting a run out. I am building an army up at the moment based on blocks of infantry with Knight support.
I really enjoy these retellings of these tournaments. Moore closeup pictures of these awesome models!😊
Wp with your state troop and artillery list, showing off the power of steel and gunpowder. If you want some faith, you could substitute the general for a high priest of ulric or lector of sigmar for 11 more points kitted out with the sword of might, heavy armour, shield and the white cloak. For the same defense and offensive output (minus the dragon bow and the ld of 8) you get some powerful faith in your army. FOR SIGMAR!!
Old world is sooo beautiful in the table. Pure espectacle
Love this format of a tournament recap! Please continue and make more of these! ❤
Just to confirm that they are playable, played two games with double motars. First game I bonked a Giant to death and a orc boss on chariot. Only missed twice against other units on the first turn. Then second game first turn: rolled misfire, rolled a 1, tried again with my second mortar, rolled a misfire, looked into camera, rolled a 1
Love the Hellblaster volly gun, Played a game against High elves and it single handedly killed the great eagle, chariot and 5 dragon princes soo good
Hey dude love that you're doing old world, hope to see more! Going to my first RTT Saturday and torn between my beastmen and dwarves but I think this video makes the beastmen sound like a ton of fun. I have only played some low points games so far but at 2k they almost sound like a mix of GSC and world eaters from 40k which sounds like a blast.
I'm building my first Empire army and your videos have been the best resource out there throughout. Keep it up!
This is one of the best battle report formats on the internet.
God I wish speed paints had existed when I played , great patience General painting all those state troops
Best tournament reports on TH-cam. If anyone knows of others as good, let me know because I enjoy this level of depth
I like The Empire and they should be present in The Old World.. Glad you keep their flag high!
Really enjoying these Old World posts.
Haha, Hellblaster Volleygun goes BRRRRT.
That first mortar shot though
Continuing to live vicariously through you as I spend every free moment walking son and hoping I have some time for a game this year
31.51 you're talking about the mage refusing the challenge, if I'm not mistaken they were in a line with no second rank, one rank units can't decline challenges as there's no back ranks for the challenged to hide in.
its all been changed in this edition
Nowhere To Run
Sometimes, a challenge is simply impossible
to refuse. A character or champion cannot
refuse a challenge if:
• They are not part of a unit, or they are
the last remaining model in a unit.
• They are part of a unit which is engaged
in all four of its arcs (i.e., a unit that is
completely surrounded).
as you can see they can still refuse and hide behind a single model
All glory to the dwarf player who marched up on Mordian under cannon-fire! Takes me back to my days commanding dwarves against damnable wood elves.
Love your army. Great vid. It would help if the pics corresponded to what your are explaining. Minimum the battle lines at the beginning being shown during the explanation. Thanks for sharing :)
Great battle report. Previous one you had the sequencing of photos better in time with each round and stage. Appreciate difficult editing but would be great to see the photos matching the time of the game. Cheers. Keep it up!
Cities of sigmar? Son your in the empire
im loving the old world videos!
So glad to see how much everyone is getting behind Old World.. As a rule set I just can’t help but feel it’s better. It just feels like Warhammer.. Sorry but anything after 7th Ed for 40K is really just a different game.
I love these reports, Keep em coming
Keep doing these mordian 💪💪💪
Great Video brother. I'm gonna make an outlandish guess that when you play more competitive events you will see it's actually MONSTERhammer. You need to be able to deal with the Chaos Dragon/Star Dragon/Terrorgeists. I love what you're trying to achieve, ust consider planning for these terror causing "unkillable" flyers. I know you love the Stank but its useless vs these very competitive armies imo. It blocks the 2nd hellblaster as well, which I think is our best unit. Good luck with your list evolution though man. HOLD THE LINE
The mortar is cursed. Literally the 4th battle report I've seen it blow up.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm sure the conclusion will be MORE STATE TROOPS.
Good Report. I would have liked the pictures to match the turn you were talking about.
I would love to do this, but it's hard at an event with time limits :(
GoPro on your floppy hat?
Long live the Empire. Hold the line!!!
38:00 skirmishers are only -1 to hit if they're unit strength 1, Gyros aren't.
Good to know!
Something about dwarfs. I remember playing against them with my brets on the mission where you need to kill a percentage of the opponets army and you win. I nearly tabled the dwarf player but most of his points were in a hammeror unit with 2 characters. So I need to charge the hammerors and kill like 5 of em to win the game. I charge 2 units of knights of the realm, a grail knights unit, and a duke on Hippogrif into the hammerors. 2 units on the flank. After the dust has cleared I've killed a champion and 2 hammerors. He killed my grail knights to the man, and crippled both realm knight groups and wins the game lol
For Sigmar and the Empire!
Great round up! I'm 50/50 on stream tank...it never dies and is an anchor to battle line....but it never does much either and often stymied by cheeky pillar spells. It's a whack of points, I'm leaning towards 2 helblaster instead
Great report! :D
Not surprised mace got changed. Myself would never have used as dont see point using what is quaranteed to be fixed
Six misfires in a row, is a 1 in 6 each time you roll.
So six in a row is 1 in 6x6x6x6x6x6 so 1 in 46656
Newark, the town where GW started, has a population of about half that, so grab the whole population of that town and get them to roll six artillery dice from each hand, one hand will roll as you rolled.
fantastic as always
Hellblaster go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTT...
4:01 g’wan the tricolour. Mad thing.
The mortar is a one in a 6 to the power of 9 chance! That being said.. you’re throwing enough artillery dice per turn that you’re odds on for one misfire per shooting phase. With the engineers though that should be one double misfire per game. Strange that it happened to the mortar first turn every game though! And there’s no accounting for that 1 on the black power misfire table each times
Great video. Subbed.
Tbh that dopleganger combo should never had existed, some people making lists try too hard to bend rules on their favour, i bet that first guy was insufferable to play against
This plus the new nuln campaign on total war has pushed me over the edge. Greatswords, pike and Canon here we come!
I only played one event before the FAQ and didn't come against the mace. However as an imperial player I would have argued till blue in the face that the 2d6 attacks at S10 profile was a bad reading.
Comment for the engagement gods, like for the algo!
Just FYI, the dwarfs that scouted can’t charge turn 1 😊
Training excorsize? THE FACTIONS ARE AT WAR! The Imperium of Man is coming to fall
You know what a doomsday clock is?
In the Beastmen fight, the lone Dragon Ogre can upgrade to champion and is allowed 25 points of magic.
tbf his entire list was a mess so that was the least of his problems
Correct, but still cant take it.
They can't have a shield so they can't take the enchanted shield.
Really cool. FWIW, it seems like bully infantry blocks have been your main risk factor over the two tournaments? This one but also the black orcs last time out. That seems very addressable.
I know the volley gun is a powerful artillery unit but for the same points I'm interested in trying a unit of 6 outriders with a unit champion. It won't have the maximum damage out put of the volley gun but 18 shots per turn isn't bad, plus they have all the flexibility that comes with being fast cav.
THAT MORTAR MISFIRE LOL EDIT: IT HAPPENED MORE THAN ONCE????
Triple hellbalster, triple cannon, tripple engineer with hochland long rifle.
Level 4 blaster mage
Chaff...
I wish the empire had a rule like beastmen to let greatswords be core if a general was the leader.
or dwarves, (or high elves to an extent)
BIG OOF FOR THAT MORTAR
Also, the chances of rolling 6 ones in a row is about 1/7776, or about 0.0001286% chance.
You should have bought a lottery ticket
A quick question as I see you are using Highland Miniatures models (that I have and love). No one (tournament organisers?) caused you problems for using proxy miniatures and not the official ones? I am told this is a recurring issue for non-GW miniatures owners in GW games tournaments. Thanks :)
This certainly used to be a concern at GW run tournaments (e.g. ones at Warhammer World).
6 missfires in a row is 1/6^6 which is about 1:47000 :>
🦑🦑🦑🦑🦑🦑🦑MG is a content machine,
People really underestimate seeing something that is toughness 4, when most infantry has strength 3.
Also, absolute terrible luck with your mortar. Maybe take another wizard in it's place?
T4 heavy armor and shield. My High Ekf opponent hates it in older editions.
He would keep shooting and shooting and only kill maybe 1 or 2 Dwarves.
Annoyed him to no end.
more TOW batreps please =)
Wait what!? You play 2k matches on small 4x4 boards? 6x4 is the proper size for everything above 1.5k. Otherwise you are just pushing blocks together.
Did I miss where you shot with that dragon bow?
I love the flair and style of the army, but Empire without cavalry and a combined arms approach is fighting with one hand tied behind your back. At this point, they're just subpar dawis, aren't they?
The probability of rolling a six on a die 6 times in a row is 1 in 46,656, or 0.000021433.
Need more handgunners…
Coming soon! They are next on the painting desk :)
Those dudes need to get 6x4 tables though. The game is meant to be played on that size and with bigger bases over old WHFB.. it is needed.
Random question, how did you base your infantry?
Geek gaming scenics Mediterranean mix :)
@@MordianGlory Yeah that's perfect thank you! Making an Estallian army, have a whole bunch painted already, and just couldn't find the right basing scheme... until I saw yours! Thank you! God bless.
His base decoration is very nice.
CADIA HAS FALLEN MY FRIEND!
Btw which company makes these Empire stl’s?
Highland miniatures
@@paulwinter1688 o7
Dwarves might be hard...but their problem is they can't move. Their list has bit of build issue. You said death stars were common. Dwarves can't really build one. Well they can but enemy can just avoid them. And dwarves need to outshoot enemy. If not enemy can just kill some units and then avoid dwarves. Worsened by scenarios being "kill enemy". Ultimately enemy can just kill some 300pts worth of soft targets and avoid combats they can't win.
Death stars trap but soft units also risky least enemy just goble few of those for win.
Dwarves would benefit a lot if there were scenarios rewarding holding points at center line
Yikes… time to retire the Mortar. That’s crazy. Further convinces me that I shouldn’t bother with a trebuchet for my bretonnians
I still wish you had some cav, if you ever try swap with steam tank. I was playing greenskins b4 they dropped Warhammer Fantasy, I thought it be cool to have opposite army based (started but never finished passion went with rules) on southern Borderwatch. Being a nappy fan, was gonna do the art/inf/cav set up. Feel some skirmish missile put up to soften assaults. one thing I hate about siege weapons is they are way too random like a bloodbowl game. drop silly morter for missile attachments
Cav is coming :)
Try some Demigriff knights!!
Lots of Cav coming soon!
re: Mortar, sounds like the average Skaven shooting phase to me.
Two points against your dwarf opponent that worked against you. 1) Only infantry get the minus 1 to hit from skirmisher so gyrocoptor shouldnt be harder to hit (unless Gyro has some special rule?). 2) You cannot charge turn 1 if you scouted, the rangers would not have been able to charge your mortar
What is the name of company that made the stl files for your state troops?
Highland miniatures
👍👍
What do you use to do your bases?
Come on, you are just playing fantasy guard with that list 😎
Is it just me, or are the photos out of sync with the narration?
I recon your empire army would really benefit from a really Killy unit of Demi griff knights.
So if you rolled a misfire 1/6 into a misfire 1/6 into a 1 1/6 three games straight on turn 1. it’s going to be a 1/10,077,696 chance of happening.
Yeah but the mortar survived to fight the ranger game 2
@@PowerSeries-x2 I thought he said it happened all 3. But you are probably right
He didn't roll a 1 game 2, he rolled a 5-6 and nothing happened.
Game 1: no kill like overkill
Six misfires in a row is one in forty six thousand, six hundred and fifty six chance. It is, as they say, rather bad luck.
I think it is one in every 46.656 to oll that
LFG!!!
Let’s get a Danish flag in there. Please 🙏
Got Danish already for 1 of the spearman blocks :D
Måske man skulle starte en Dansk hær xD
Flagrants
Wait until you play 2.5k :D
ws4 would not make a difference against the slug skin unit.
I wonder how it holds up to a 200 men at arms list.
Guess we will find out! * begins 3d printing *
@@MordianGlory tbh i don't have the energy to paint that many men at arms, I can paint 30 knights syilized no problem, but by the 50th brown + a seccondary to match his knight man at arms my eyes glaze over
Id like to see a take on bretonions exiles list.