IGNORE THE BS! - Buy A Porsche Taycan!
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This video is a for you to feel good, even tough you know you lost 40% of your car worths the 1st year.
🤣🤣🤣🤣this is some funny shxxx🤣🤣🤣🤣
This video is not for me to feel anything, it’s not my car, it’s to actually talk about facts rather fiction
I bought a 2020 taycan performance plus with 35k mailes for 39.5k with nice options. I’m so happy with it.
Very nice! Great car!
While VAT might not be listed on a second hand privately sold car, to say it’s just immediately excluded when buying a second hand car is not really correct.
VAT is wrapped up in the depreciation costs over a few years.
My point was that VAT makes a large amount of prices up, I understand it’s not listed but still included. What I was getting at is if you paid £100k for a car and kept it for a week then listed it for sale you wouldn’t get anywhere close what you paid for it
@@TomShorrock The vat on a£100k car is £16670 not £20000. also the £20k in options has £3333 of vat in it. So you're not down to £60k , you're down to £66666.
I completely agree with everything you said. Thank you. It's not just a 911 gateway car, though.
I have 5 doors, 4 1/2 seats, roof rails, and a cycle carrier. It's my EV, soft roader, sports car, family car.
I love driving it, and I am going to stop typing and take it out now, just for fun.
James, it's a great car....it's not a sports car. Drive a mx5, lotus Elise etc...driving a light car is fun and sporty. The Porsche is great but hugely heavy and ultimately uncommunicative. my son just bought his first car..a 2011 Mégane Renault sport 2.0 turbo. It's a sportier and more fun drive than my Audi e Tron GT.
Thanks James! Much appreciated
Im in the US, so some of the details differ (jealous of you guys who are able to lease Taycans through salary sacrifice schemes). Here in the US, unless you work for Porsche, a taycan will cost a minimum of about $1500 for a lease on a base model. And that’s after various incentives. But like you guys there’s lots of snobbery and misinformation being spread by people who should know better. Atleast here, taycans seem to follow a similar depreciation curve as any German luxury sedan. Not sure why people get so bent out of shape about that. And I’d be more confident owning an older taycan than a panamera, macan or cayenne because EV drivetrains are inherently simpler and there’s an 8 year warranty on the battery
100% agree! There no hear box to brake on an EV
@@TomShorrockI've read in forums that quite a few of the great boxes break in those earlier taycans actually.. And that's a huge problem when anyone at all hears that cuz it's a problem where there doesn't need to be one.
I live in the middle east, i bought one of these from the showroom, manager driven for 9000km, and sold to me for cost price. They took a $25k haircut on it from the retail price. I think it looks nice , drives well, and I'm obviously saving money on the petrol. I don't think it's a gateway car, personally. It's a Porsche for people that want an EV. Petrol prices in the UK are astronomical. The petrol bill will run up to 5 figures over 2 years.
What a honest video for once. No click bait crap which can’t be said for the Mac master. I’ve stopped looking at his channel because of it. I’m with you on the Porsche I drive a Kia EV6 GT Line S and thought about the possibility of buying a used taycan but the two things that made me not buy one were the service / maintenance and insurance. But yes it’s a fantastic car a friend who lives just down the road from me has the turbo s modal. It was raved by the motoring press when launched and it’s still the same car. Your right on options some can loose you money and others just make the car that bit more desirable for the used buyer. But you the new owner take the hit. Once again a great video thanks.
Cheers dude! And the EV6 is another great car!
Finally.....a superb video made by someone who clearly understands how the car market works as well as the good & expanding Electric charging infustracture! I don't own any Porsche but am a huge fan of the EV market and extremely surprised about the negativity towards EV cars. Thank you for taking the time and making a very balanced video. 🙌
No problem at all! It’s very easy for people to have a sheep mentality and followed the BS that is spread about EV’s
I was looking for an EV for my family and by chance stumbled up on a Porsche Taycan. I was looking at an BMW i5 as an alternative which costs me the same amount of money but if we face it. If you got the chance to buy a 2 year old Porsche for the same amount of money you gotta be an idiot not to do so.
The estimation that batteries depreciate over time is obviously true but so are ICEs. A used petrol engine doesn't deliver the same power as a new one anymore and there's way more parts that can fail. It's more the fear of change that keeps people from buying EVs and than there's the usual shit talking without ever understanding the topic.
In the end it's similar to the stock market. Buy low, sell high. When everybody is in fear it's the best time to do so and the time for EVs is now.
Very true!
My mate has an 8 year old Tesla model S with 120k miles on it and it still charges up to 235mile range
Mate your comment scares me, exactly in the same situation!
I was about to take a 2023 bmw but eventually ended up buying 2022 taycan cs… , drives perfectly fine for me🙌🏻😅
I drive one since three years (..) Do not hesitate, the car is simply stunning (..) Depreciation will settle ..
I’m subscribed to you right now. We need honest people like you around. I’m an EV owner for nearly two years and I’ve not looked back, Best decision! New 400+ mile range Taycan will most likely be next car
Thank you! Much appreciated, I’m just a normal guy that doesn’t listen to the BS and does my own research 💪🏻
How does your analysis compare to USA market for same vehicle, same specifications and ancillary costs, maintenance, and depreciation?
US is always cheaper
I’m seriously tempted by one of these. I think the scaremongering still has some way to go though so maybe they will drop a bit more. I’m retiring soon so it will see me out I’m sure
Reckon it’ll drop further now the facelift is available?
It’s quite possible
tbf to the macmaster his review of the Taycan second gen is quite favourable. So I think buy a 1st gen, no, but 2nd gen yes.
Where does the 5% battery depletion come from, do you have a source for this?
This is what the manufacturers state mate
How do you find going over speed bumps? Is it possible 🤷♂️
Totally fine no issues so long as you don’t go will quick
You need to do more miles on the moors rather than Mosley / Ashton etc.
Agree re Taycan 2nd hand.
Previous owner of mine lost £50k deprecation.
I bought it through my co, came with a Porsche warranty until end 2026.
It’s still depreciating but lower corp tax and putting other costs through the co offsets most of this. For now at least.
It’s great to drive but terrible to park - bigger than a VW camper van!
Great purchase
and how much need to pay annually for maintenance?
I’m not to sure I think it varies dependant on what agreement to go for. However bare in mind there is not oil changes needed etc
Yep we have self charging hybrid and agree they are great and more likely to be the future.
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Interesting video. You keep having a go at Lee. But then you say the Tycan if purchased would be a gateway into Porsche as if it's some miracle car solution it's not. The Tycan is a complex high functioning EV that will suck your finances dry. However, a Porsche Plugin hybrid could be the way to go. Your unscientific poll of charging stations was simply nonsense. Spouting only the good about EVs is why people don't buy them because real-world usage is a long way from the rose-coloured view you state here.
Not having ago a Lee, just pointing out his misinformation
Trying to decide on a 4S or a 718 both on 20 plates and similar 50k mark 🤔
718 cayman GTS is a better drivers car than a 911 in my opinion
250 mile range is unacceptable at that price point. That's a big reason why it ain't selling.
Is it really? How often do you drive 250 miles in one journey ?
My Taycan CT TS is an amazing vehicle. Great video
Thankyou
Great video and very informative.
I like an EV, however the thing that puts me off a Taycan in particular is a combination of the service costs and I have seen sub 3 year cars with £50k battery replacements :/
Thanks for watching, and thanks for the feedback, like I said Porsche offer 8year warranty on the batteries and motor, so if they fail after 3 years it shouldn’t be a chargeable repair 💪🏻
@@TomShorrock yeah I appreciate your depth of knowledge into this. It was just my experience. Regardless of car I always like to ask if it’s a car that the person would pay cash for?🤔
Personally I disagree with paying for cars cash due to depreciation etc, I think leasing is the way forward if you like to change your car every 2-3 years. However if you like to keep cars than cash is definitely the way forward
Thanks for your message, my question is 'would you pay X for car Y'. I am thinking in terms of value as a lot of cars are £50k plus now and dont seem like good value.
Regarding leasing, outwith a couple of company cars years, I have always bought cash. Just the way I was brought up.
@@TomShorrock ps just trying to have a car chat, I don't want an online argument or anything 😄
For me if you can home charge you can do so on a night tariff at 7.5p it's worth it. Imagine a £75k ipace for £30k with 8k miles 18 months dealer warranty and 6.5 years battery warranty.... It's not that scary to choose this a d thats a premium EV
I totally agree! My biggest fear however is when the energy companies start to ramp the price up it will become more expensive than diesel & petrol. Speaking of which motorway services are nearing £2.00 per litre again …
@@TomShorrock that's when you have to go for home solar to keep a lid on these companies! So essentially for cost effective EV ownership likely you need to be a wealthy person with off street parking and solar and the economics of it will be propped up by the average car owner who may have to use public charging or grid electricity.
Very true! Sadly here in the UK we don’t get enough sunlight to make solar payback times shorter
Great video, someone talking sense at last. I'm not sure why people think they're cool or informed when they dump on EV's.
Totally agree! And thanks for dropping a comment 💪🏻
The dirt sayer to which you refer has always maintained his Taycan is a great car. It's the cost of owning one he is not so keen on.
I agree he has, but most people will read his ridiculous titles and look no further and take it as fact
Good video, but... the VAT is not 20,000, it is 16,600. And the leasing companies calculate the value of options with 50% of new value, unless it is a really unique 1-of-1 option. Best regards from a Taycan 4S owner.
I figured I got the vat wrong, due to getting the video out quick, however, it’s still a good car
@@TomShorrock agree!
I’m considering leasing a Taycan 4s through the company car scheme but you would have to be a lunatic to buy one new due to the depreciation.
Very true
The issue is the car costs on average £100k and it only does 230 miles approx on a charge (newer version more but costs more). Yes all new car lose 20% vat. The other issue is the battery will degrade with time and how you charge it. Average range summer 230 miles but winter 20 to 30% less. All electric car battery warranties state the battery has to drop below 70% capacity before it is replaced. Some manufacturers fit reconditioned batteries and NOT new ones. A 93kwh Taycan battery is £45000. In 10 years if you keep your Taycan you could spend £100k plus £45k. You also can't take the car to anyone but Porsche to fix it. Cabin heaters common recall but after 3 years / out of warranty expect over £3000 to fix. It is a brilliant car but a lemon.
Porsche extended warranty is £1k per year up to 14 years old
I hate to say it mate but I did cover all this in the video did you watch it all ?
@@jameslane3312 So you pay an extra £14,000 unless they choose not to accept your car ? Will the parts be available for a mk 1 Taycan in 14 years ? Nope.
@@RB-lt8kt are the parts available for 14 year old cars today. Yep!
@@jameslane3312 Yes many. You can buy classic car parts for cars 20 years old. I know several people buying new parts for ww2 jeeps in the UK. You mentioned 14 years but ev technology is changing so fast parts will no longer be made. Tesla and VW group will not allow you to buy aftermarket parts so where will you get the parts from ?
Well done, finally a reasonable video explaining how this actually works, how good these cars are and one that takes the BS and throws it in the bin. I'll continue enjoying my Taycan for a few years yet 😁
Glad you enjoyed! And glad you agree! I suppose positivity spreads slower than negativity 🤷♂️
Say you buy a well depreciated one… what’s the servicing and insurance like compared to whatever is an equivalent piston car?
Insurance is cheaper due to all the anti collision systems it has, and the servicing is minimal, just brakes & health checks, no oil changes needed etc
get the approved insurance and you're good
@@TomShorrockbatteries buggy software ElectricAl systems software.
Civic type r value went up
5 percent battery dehydration in 8 years, right ?
Bought my used Taycan Turbo at 119k€, new list price 214k€: 2yrs 10000km. Absolutely happy with it.
now worth about 55k
Offcourse you are because you need to convince yourself that you didn't buy the cat i the bag. It's kinda mental self protection to live in denial. Denial that you have thrown 10th of thousands of pounds on a car that you're now stuck with.
@@Jazzmaster71what do you mean "stuck with"?
Great car dude!
@@eingast7798 ignore the troll, he's probably patting himself on the back while he's riding his clapped out civic
It's the best time to buy a performance electric cars, or any electric cars. In a few years they'll do the BMW thing and get crazy expensive again, for the well built ones. Also get the 4 cylinder AMG. It's a future classic. It has a Formula one engine for starters.
the four pot will have it's neck wrung in under 50k miles. Have the bits boosted out of it by the turbo in no time at all.
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Macmaster is right though, given how much his car has lost in value.
But used ones look like a bargain as well.
Two things can be true at once.
Mac master is true about the depreciation but it certainly isn’t worth scrap value like he states in his title
I drive a 2020 Audi RS4 & have been watching videos of both sides of argument. Around Dec 2023 I stopped at a service station in Dundee on way to my home town Aberdeen. I noticed a fellow Audi RS car owner. The gent had an Audi RS e-tron at the charger.
I visited the service station shop & loo. Some 10-15 mins later the guy was still at the charger. I was keen to hear his own experience first hand. This is what he said -
He previously owned a RS4 like mine however now for around a year owned this Audi e-tron RS. He averages around 800 miles a week. So has had considerable experience. He like me lived in north east Scotland & drives all over Scotland. He was currently heading back from the central belt & had stopped to charge his car. His car was wonderful to drive but there were issues. EG in winter the range is less than 200 miles. He had just spent 15mins on the phone to the charge network company who apparently did have his credit card details but yet he needed to load credit. This type of issue was not uncommon. He reported that in the last year of ownership he had slept 5 times in the car. Recently when stoping to recharge he had to go to 4 chargers before one worked. Then the charge was so slow it took over two hours. Yet again he slept in his car.
From what I heard he wouldn’t buy one again as they simply as the car range & in particular the infrastructure in Scotland just isn’t there. More electric cars are appearing on the roads & there’s now less even less chance of getting a charger. Sure no’s of chargers are increasing but the increase of EV’s is much more. If you live in Scotland. Have charging facilities at home & don’t do long journeys. An EV might work for you but for him they simply don’t work.
This is also where I have reached in my thinking. Maybe in the future if there’s a much better network of fast chargers + a genuine 300 mile range (not charge at 70 of 80 % of this) I’d make the switch however for now an EV for me is simply not a viable alternative.
This rep should have bought a Tesla and not an Audi - problem solved. And the car would have been ten grand + cheaper. Please don't allude to the incorrect assertion that "all EVs are the same" because the etron was a particular turd you could not even roll in glitter.
Thanks for your thoughts. Like you I’ve come to understand that Tesla’s have the edge on range. Can I ask what your thoughts are on the charging network, in particular Scotland? From what I gather unless you can charge at home. Trying to get around much of Scotland & in particular rural Scotland one is going to struggle. Even the gent I met described how at times it took a few goes to find a working charger. Maybe in time the network will be there however if I want to drive from NE Scotland to a west coast Island. I’m thinking I’m may well struggle to find chargers on route or at my destination. Let alone ones which are fast chargers?
@@SpiderMacKenzie We recently took a trip round the Scottish Borders, Edinburgh way and Berwick on Tweed. Up from Milton Keynes and back via the A1. There are chargers all over the place on the A1 and more going in. As for Scotland, we did not have any problems. We mostly used Tesla super chargers, which ALWAYS work, you don't need a special card or anything and some are open to non Tesla, but we also used EV power near the hotel [7 brand new 150kw stalls] and a couple of 50kw "Electrify Scotland" chargers we found in small car parks like in wonderful Melrose town. We did no come across anything that did not work.
Amazing dead straight up and down old Roman Roads. We also drove through the Northumberland National Park via the A68. There were just no problems at all with charging. The car is easily capable of 300+ miles though at non motorway speeds. We just charged when we could - the Tesla car mapping has all chargers that are not "locked in" with special cards, but we invariably stopped because we had to, not the car.
Maybe I have been lucky but also did a 1,000 mile round trip to the North West of Ireland and back - charging just was not a problem. Even overnight on a 13 amp socket at my Uncle's house gave 100+ miles. It is a differing mindset. I only ever had one issue public charging and that was a 50kw charger we found near the Holyhead Ferry Terminal - it started charging ok but stopped 10 mins later. We called the helpline and they rebooted it remotely and it was then fine. For some reason it would only give me instructions in Welsh but figured it out. I discovered later there were even (free) chargers I could have used on the Stena line Ferry.
Finally, I strongly recommend a site like abetterrouteplanner or zapmap if your car does not have something suitable like the Tesla mapping. If you have to use a car for work - swallow your pride and get a Tesla, they are longer range, best charging, best value and super reliable. Local Pizza shops round here use Model 3 to deliver Pizzas and that is purely because they are the cheapest delivery vans you can get. I also know the popular MG5 Estate is well liked by people who have to drive for a living. There are also ODB2 dongles you can get that work with charger mapping [example TRONITY] using your phone or apple / android car link that will show your car range in real time and organise your route and charging stops automatically (Teslas do this anyway and probably other cars too).
you tube video of someone going from UK to the boot of Italy in an e208 illustrating the real time charge data / mapping : th-cam.com/video/bUEv8PWj-3s/w-d-xo.html
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I bought a Etron GT and it is a totally brilliant thing people actually walk up and tell you how stunning it is. Easily better looking than the Taycan in my view a better interior. I waited until the dealership were on the point of not making theire quota got more than 15k off the new car and included the Ohme Pro home charger and installation as well as the Audi charging discount card similar to the Porsche one and a few extras on the car thrown in. I changed from a stunning 50 tdi A7 vorsprung and as much as we loved that car, the Etron GT is the better drive. I can charge on the octopus smart tariff from 20 to 80% for between 3 to 4 quid. I have no road tax to pay where as my A7 was £580 and I pay £700 on a 3 year PCP. I am intending to change the car at 2 years. Oh and I get free servicing! So Its far from a disaster and that acceleration and sound pack never ever gets old.
not even close to the Taycan in the looks departmenr and all Audi interiors are horrible IMO. Both cars suffer horrendous depreciation but I would choose a used Taycan over the Etron all day long.
Great car and deal dude!
All EVs suffer horrendous depreciation, and it’s the incentives to buy them that cause it, I did mention all this in the video…
@TomShorrock Yes, Tom, I fully understand and appreciate what you've set out, but for me, the depreciation is more or less offset by the incentives and im saving a a signifcant amount in running costs. Your Informative appraisal is appreciated nonetheless.
@ianmichael8117 Each to his own, I guess, and I did say "in my view" but also my exoerience of having driven both. I spent time with the equivalent Taycan from the dealer and also the two variants of Etron GT. I didn't consider the RS as significantly superior to the GT, so I opted for the Etron GT over the RS and Taycan based on driving over a couple of weekends and family reactions to both cars both went in favour of the Etron GT. I prefer their approach to the dash and driving at night, the headlights were significantly better than Taycan, as were the asthetics again in mine and the fam's opinion. At least I got to drive 3 versons of the cars before choosing, and I don't regret anything. I'm a former ysed 911 owner, and my daughter currently runs a Macan GTS, so we get Porsche but on this occasion the Audi won us over in its Daytona pearl paint and Black styling pack it is so sculpted, it picks up the light from all angles, particularly the rear and rear quarter. Both are great cars, though, and very little to choose between them.
Its 2035 now - not 2030 re: Manu having to make Electrics.
Your main points apply to all vehicles. (VAT and Optional extras) What you need to have done is compare the depreciation against other comparable combustion cars, that would be a better way to make the point - and I believe you can make good points in that regard, the Panamera is combustion Porsche which is similar to the Taycan, and those depreciate pretty heavily too... as do most luxury saloons in that segment.
You are dead right about the incentives for new ones though - Shame its damaging the credibility of EVs in the minds of the public, if we let the free market do its job that would be much better for the second hand values.
You also might want to have declared that Porsche didn't pay you to make this video. 🙂
Porsche don’t pay anyone to review their cars, nor does any car manufacturer, it’s common knowledge
@@TomShorrock I was being tongue in cheek.
@@adogmcdizzle fair play
Sorry, but this is unique to Taycan. When it comes to Porsche the 911 holds, maintains or it's value grows more often than losing value. I bought a 2015 991.1 GTS and sold it after a few years for 20K more than I paid, my Taycan cost 150K and is worth , maybe 70K, unacceptable.. The range has also dropped substantally. Not a great value...
It’s not unique to Taycan, it’s due to the government incentives that accelerates the depreciation, ask yourself if the government offered a salary sacrifice scheme or 2% BIK on a 911, you would find the 911’s depreciate exactly the same
Ah buy a porsche taycan used its really cheap!
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Is this a personal experience ?
Great video! So true that the Taycan is an entry drug to a 911
Thank you!
Tom, I‘m not a fan of the all electric cars but I do believe they have a place & a market. I also don‘t understand why the hybrids which in my opinion was the best way to get the driving population turn on to EVs pardon the pun weren't developed even more than they were 🤔 I think we are being pushed into EVs without really having a full understanding of the long term issues with batteries and disposal by governments that also don't understand the issues. Top video. Cheers Dave
They look great, But there the size of a transit van!
I agree Dave, I think they are more aimed at non car enthusiasts, plus when the tax benefits disappear I think less people will drive them
They are huge, but you also save on servicing etc
brilliant car but the dealer won't take them back in part x
I’ve heard about this
So the value of options added to a Porsche becomes worthless straight away... It follows then that if all these added features were included as standard, they would not become worthless 😵💫
Something wrong with your logic here mate 🙃
There isn’t something wrong with my logic, do you seriously think paying 10k in options adds 10k into the used price?
Don’t get me wrong it does help the value slightly but certainly not to the full amount you paid
I don't think people are snobs, I think the average person looking for a family car doesn't want 600hp as the insurance is insane. Then if you are looking for a performance car you want one that makes a noise!
Without the tax incentive for businesses they wouldn't have sold have as many Taycans.
And that’s exactly the point in my video
Great video pal. Past the BS.
Thankyoy
Does anyone actually "buy" one of these? Surely 99% are effectively rented (PCP or lease).
Probably not, only government or tax incentives
Terrible reliability though. Expect to be treated like shit by porsch and stuck side of the road with total loss of power
If you’re talking from personal experience, I really can’t comment on this, I can only pass on my views from having a press car.
Good to see objective comments in a video. Macmaster has to be one of the biggest liars about. He is either doing it for clicks or has shares in oil companies.
I agree he certainly exaggerates but he’s still probably a nice guy
Madness…. £4,000 for cooling fans not covered under warranty unless you buy new
Said this to a couple of people, I can’t comment on issues like this having only had the car for a week
The vat has nothing to do with depreciation. Thats just nonsense.
As proof ALL of what you say in terms of options and VAT applies to a 911 as well. And yet they lose less than half as much as a Taycan.
Did you miss the bit where I explained why EV’s lose money than most cars? It’s because of the government incentives, apply these to a 911 and you’re in the same boat.
Finally someone speaking the truth!
Thank you! Glad your think so
heater failures, cracking rear lights, poor range and efficiency, multiple recalls. I'll pass
Snob 😭🤣
Again, I can’t comment on this I don’t own one
If you are listening to the MacMaster then you are just copying someone else's homework and hoping they know what they have written down. This goes for any car or any opinion. Ask an Arsenal fan what he thinks of Manchester United "You know they really are smashing with the ball in the midfield and so much better than us when it comes to the back four". It's never gonna happen - do your OWN homework and make your OWN decisions. Like a proper MacMaster. I mean grown up.
I’m not listening to the Macmaster, I’m telling people to do exactly what you say
Absolutely correct. At last someone intelligent and not full of merda. Liked and subscribed
That’s dude! Appreciate it
This guy doesn’t understand how VAT works. And the nonsense about how easy it is to do long journeys in an EV is pure fairytale. If you’re a private buyer choosing a new car, don’t even consider an EV unless you want to bonfire cash. If you’re a company car user or a salary sacrifice buyer, you’re probably going to go EV because it’s tax efficient (and hopefully your other half has an ICE vehicle for winter use/long runs).
The only time an EV makes a half decent proposition for a private buyer is when it’s halved in value after less than 2 years.
And yes, they are disposable… if you drop £40k on a 2 or 3 year old ICE car, nothing can fail after 5 or 6 years that will cost more than its value to repair. If the battery pack in an EV fails or its range starts dropping to unusable levels (eg less than 200 miles in the winter), you’re stuck scrapping it, or dropping massive money on a new battery 🤷♂️
Ok I may have got the VAT wrong, but ask yourself a question. Would you be righting this comment if I didn’t?
My whole video is about explaining why they lose money and the main reason in the government incentives
The reason I still shy away from EVs is the tech is still developing so quickly. What is state of the art today could well be a broken wagon wheel in three years. I am a cash buyer though (US) so picking up a near.new Taycan at an already hugely depreciated price is quite appealing.
It is, but it also currently very good
"Over 8 years, the batteries will only deplete 5%" 💀💀💀💀 - I don't mind people playing contrarian and going against the grain but c'mon atleast do your research mate. Can't even continue the video if you're uninformed on this fact alone. This comes from someone who's owned over 4 electric cars. Tesla included
I’m only telling you what the manufactures tell me
Humm no
Humm why?
This is such a bad review of bad information it’s laughable. The battery warranty is 70% life not 95%. The vat thing is totally stupid. That’s not how depreciation works at all. You can sell a new car for more than retail sometimes or you could lose less than 10% in a year so for god sake shut up about your bad vat calculations. You also clearly
Have no idea just how bad the reliability has been on the Taycans. That’s also made deprecation even worse. The only reason to even consider one is the business use case. Nobody should ever buy one for personal use only.
I’m just putting forward the other side of the argument
People aren’t buying second hand EVs for the reason you stated, it’s actually cheaper to buy a new one through salary sacrifice. Also, who wants an EV out of warranty.
This is what I stated, I said that’s why nobody is buying them used
You will own nothing and be happy.
WEF.
By design.
Haha! I’ve heard this before
dont by that shit car
Rude
Buy a 911. They barely depreciate here in the USA.
Errrm. That's not very good for a daily driver (environmental concerns are factored in). I am sure most Americans just don't care I hope I am wrong.
@@EcoFP33 The 911 is a perfect daily driver. Give it a go and see. As for the environment, we Americans do care a lot. Ever visited our vast and beautiful national parks?
@@WFO.you bring up national parks as proof that americans care about the environment? 😂
Come ooooon 😂
@@toughkix6910 What country are you from and live in?
They don’t in the UK also
No thanks.
Yes please
Its all of their fault.
💪🏻
EVs are BORING. They make no noises (or crap noise). They have no soul. Doesn't matter how fast they accelerate in a straight line, they're nowhere near as much fun as a petrol high performance car.
Try the Ionic 5N and you’ll change your mind
@TomShorrock No. It sounds like a car from Pole Position on an 80s Commodore 64. Nice concept, but still not acceptable.
£680 a month with tyres ??????? Tyres are £300 each. Leasing an EV to save the planet is a stupid.
The average car payment in the UK is £500 a month… that’s scary
I think I'll believe the bull, in all fairness, electric cars are not the way forward, that's why manufacturers are moving away from electric and back to making small turbo engines.
My point is I’m highlighting a positive in a negative situation, now is your chance to get a cheap Porsche
@TomShorrock Oh yeah, but they're cheap for a reason because no one wants them, not even the dealers want them anymore, especially now when insurance companies will just write them off due to the fact that the batteries cost more than what the car's worth.
@@DanDavies741 not quite sure if you watched the full video, but I do explain why they are cheap and nobody wants them
Ah yes we will drive gasoline cars indefenitely. Please share more of your wisdom with us.
Of course he didn't watch the video. He is a modern zombie shaped by clickbait headlines, 5 second attention span and lack fo critical thinking skills.
Nope, will never buy a car that still depriciate 25% every year after the first 35% 1st year.
Hate to say it mate, all new cars depreciate…
Errr…let me think, now…uhh, NO!
Why?
What a nonsense
Certainly isn’t. Clearly haven’t watched the whole video
Ignore the truth???No wonder you have no subscribers 😂😂😂
I forgot 17k equates to zero…
You also clearly haven’t watched the full video, if you think I’m suggesting to “ignore the truth”
I’m considering a Taycan, but they’re nowhere as exciting to drive or as quick as a decent ICE car.
The subscription model is a joke and they’re not what you would call reliable.
Range is also very poor.
Not as quick as a decent ICE car? Are you joking? I wouldn't buy one at the moment and will stick with a 2024 Macan GTS for now. But, having driven a Taycan 4S, there aint many ICE cars quicker and as for the Turbo S......
@@ianmichael8117 No hiding the weight.
Total lack of drama for me. Acceleration gets old quick and range is awful even if you drive like a nun.
Top end of rev range on something like a r8 v10 will never be matched by a EV.
That’s why the Rimac failed.
EV’s work best as nippy city cars.
Range should be the priority not performance.
The power delivery in a Taycan coupled with its mass is nauseating.
Even a m3 xdrive is a sub 3 second car now.
I’m sorry, but the acceleration on a EV is unbeatable by an ICE car
@@TomShorrock I’m sorry. That’s total bullshit.
This is cheaper than the Tesla including the twin turbo kit
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