You got one minor thing wrong. The old world did not blow up after the age of myth. It blew up before the age of myth during the End Times. The timeline goes like this: The End Times - The ending of the old world (and the old fantasy setting) Age of Myth - Sigmar discovers the Realms Age of chaos - chaos invades the realms Age of sigmar - Sigmar invades the now chaos infested realms
Also another thing that was incorrect was saying every faction within the "Grand Alliance of Order" is heroic and noble as that's incorrect as the faction my Witch Aelf character is part of the Daughters of Khaine are according to the lore very brutal vicious anti-heroines that on multiple occasions have to an extent stepped into the role of anti-villains.
What is especially interesting: between the death of the "old world" and the Age of Myths, epochs have passed, perhaps millions of years. Life flowed on its own course. And when Sigmar arrived with his company, not all the aborigines were glad to see him. Also important: The great Old Ones (who re-shaped the "old world" in the likeness of the Earth and inhabited it with humanoid races)... Somehow, they visited the Mortal Realms before Sigmar. They created magical portals (Realmgates) and left hints for Slann when they arrive for "how to continue the Great Plan".
I really enjoyed the video, and feel Cubicle 7 should send you a commission for making the sale for me. Also, I appreciate that you think that a 20 minute video is going long; TH-cam is full of gasbags that can turn a 17 page Unearthed Arcana release into a Wagnerian 3 hour bore fest. Well produced, scripted, and paced. Keep up the good work!
> Well produced, scripted, and paced. Keep up the good work! Fully agree, you can see that actual thought and care were put in the video script, this video is an EXCELLENT overview of Soulbound.
Bah... I really didn't want to waste more money on Warhammer than I already am... but you convinced me. Awesome review! I love how objective the whole thing was!
I really like the compromise you did with having facecam during the parts that doesn't deal with the game mechanics. You made me happy :) Nice video - as always!
I really love Age of Sigmar very much and still look forward to the official translation of the Soulhound RuleBook into my native language. I plan to buy it even for the sake of a new interesting lore!
About pronunciation, i am a fan of warhammer staff for years and i have no idea how to say certain names. I just say what i think they should sound and act confident.
I'm actually going to be part of a Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Soulbound Campaign the group I'm a part of is doing the first main storyline released after the core rulebook and starter set Shadows in the Mist which is set in Anvilguard and the surrounding area prior to the Daughters of Khaine taking over.
8:50 White Dwarf december 2019 have a pronounciaion guide. Luckly, I was literally jus geting into warhammer (40K) and bought that volume at christmas, but i can still be aquired through Warhammer Digital... if they start accepting paypal, since GW seen to have a problem with accepting my credit card by any means other than paypal...
@@DaveThaumavore Getting new abilities and higher numbers isn't necessary for long campaign play. Because D&D is so heavily focused on it's progression system, a lot of people equate RPG with leveling system. (See the video game industry) But the core of roleplay is acting, improv, and storytelling, none of which need statistical growth. Some systems have actually built flat progression or minor growth into their system. Fate allows you to gain skills after major milestones, but restricts players to swapping skill ratings in the sort term. You can add Aspects, but since you have to spend currency to use them, this doesn't really change the power level of characters. City of Mist has a similar "you can only grow so much" approach to it's progression, with themes being exchanged as characters evolve, rather than straight growth. You equated this to super heroes, and I think that's a good idea. If you look at super heroes, they do occasionally grow in power, but this often is writers lacking a good idea, or playing too wobbly with their own constraints. Good superhero stories are about how you use your power, not how strong you can get.
They don't seem to have a quickstart guide so I can't check it for myself, but is this a roll and add kind of dice pool system (like the D6 system) or a roll and count successes? It seems to be kind of... both?
It’s really a count the successes system. You have Focus points in skills that can add points to die results, but that’s only to edge your numbers towards more results.
@@DaveThaumavore And you discount sucesses (so point for point) from the creature's Toughness? If it's 20 like the one in the video, it could take a while... That could be the intention, though...
@@allluckyseven Yeah, toughness is the HP. The maw crusha in the video's example is a tough boss. But with a party of four casting crazy spells and hammering away at it, you could whittle away all that Toughness in just a few rounds.
Hmmm... I can't help wonder if this could be combined with WFRP 4e..? I'm a WFRP 4e fan (although I'm NOT an expert - far from it) but as a GM trying to set up games for the players, I do get the feeling that they're not all that into all the backstory stuff for the characters, too much wandering around without core purpose for doing so, plunging into encounters/combat with minimal strength, poor weapons and armour (after all they're just some poor people or whatever who just became hungry for adventure, etc.). I do have a hard time getting my kids into RPG (they've been kind enoug to try...) as they're used to digital games with hardcore actions being the heroes with heavy weapons or abilities... I do try to adjust the settings and startingpoint, etc. but it's tricky as you have to start somewhere. But maybe Soulbound combined with WFRP could work? I don't know, just throwing it out there... Anyway, great review of the game.. Love it!
You don’t really need to adopt anything from Soulbound in order to infuse power in your players’ characters and purpose to their quest. Those are more general tweaks.
We’ve mixed Soulbound and 4e, using d6s and if a stat (for example Ballistic Skill) is 45% you get 4d6, just like how it converts SB and TB using only the tens. Same character career progression from 4e, it’s just purely a mechanical resolution change from d% to d6.
Just wanted to let people know if they're coming back a year later, they have by now released a book that lets you play properly as factions from the destruction roster, but sadly still not anything from Grand alliance death. I'm not sad that chaos hasn't gotten an expansion yet constantly wanting to destroy the world kind of bores me.
Yeah, probably the only kind of all-Destruction campaign I’d want to be a part of would be the kind where the PCs are in opposition to their natural goals.
@@DaveThaumavore Indeed, leaving the players in the position where it would be hard to make complimentary goals is something I could see as a problem for the destruction factions. Like giantkin, or whatever they've renamed them to, seem like they mostly want to make everyone their slaves, but gloomspite gits would probably want to empower their spider god and I'm not sure how those sorts of things could be compatible with each other. That's sort of why I'm sad that they started with destruction instead of death, because the death faction actually wants to change the whole status quo rather than preserve it or blow it up. Thanks for the reply :-)
@@Sara3346 I know this comment was a while ago so hopefully my reply is unnecessary, but just in case, Champions of Death was released in November 2021, Champions of Destruction released in March 2022. There’s also a confirmed Champions of Chaos book coming sometime later this year
It's a awesome Tabletop RPG my group just finished our first session of Warhammer Age of Sigmar Soulbound Shadows in the Mist. We're currently doing the first book in the overarching six-parter Blood Tide as we ended with the Binding/Party slaying a Levi-Crho that was attacking the ship we were sailing on the BlackFin.
Im ok with the age of sigmar stuff even though it looks kind of samy. I really dislike the lore with the spheres. It feels like they took the cheapest way put on every turn
Such a horrible setting.. to think this is what replaced the amazingly brilliant classic Warhammer old world and its been somewhat successful? This is the same customer base that gives us Super hero Furries in D&D and turn everything into an anime cartoon filled with Pokémon flavor. Games Workshop has become such trash, even the Horus Heresy can't save them from themselves. Anyway I'll stick with the authentic WFRP experience
3:50 total deal breaker. Hate that chosen one anime crap. It shouldn't exist at all, but if it must then 'soulbound' should be an option, one quirky thing in the realms.
It's not like they're one off chosen ones, the implication is that there's at least thousands of them running around. Not much different from paladins or clerics to use a dnd analogy. Also aos is a high fantasy power metal album cover type setting, why doesn't it fit the setting?
@@Tartersauce101 That one...yeah that's a good point, though given aos being all about high fantasy nonsense being like a cook or a ratcatcher definitely wouldn't fit the themes either. The systemic problems of you basically not progressing much post character creation also makes things a bit iffy for sure.
You got one minor thing wrong. The old world did not blow up after the age of myth. It blew up before the age of myth during the End Times.
The timeline goes like this:
The End Times - The ending of the old world (and the old fantasy setting)
Age of Myth - Sigmar discovers the Realms
Age of chaos - chaos invades the realms
Age of sigmar - Sigmar invades the now chaos infested realms
Also another thing that was incorrect was saying every faction within the "Grand Alliance of Order" is heroic and noble as that's incorrect as the faction my Witch Aelf character is part of the Daughters of Khaine are according to the lore very brutal vicious anti-heroines that on multiple occasions have to an extent stepped into the role of anti-villains.
What is especially interesting: between the death of the "old world" and the Age of Myths, epochs have passed, perhaps millions of years. Life flowed on its own course. And when Sigmar arrived with his company, not all the aborigines were glad to see him.
Also important: The great Old Ones (who re-shaped the "old world" in the likeness of the Earth and inhabited it with humanoid races)... Somehow, they visited the Mortal Realms before Sigmar.
They created magical portals (Realmgates) and left hints for Slann when they arrive for "how to continue the Great Plan".
@@derrickhaggard Compared to the non-Order factions the DoK are still very much the good guys/gals. 😅
@@w.i.t.c.h.q.u.e.e.n Yep. Compared to the Non-Order factions the DoK are heroines.
I really enjoyed the video, and feel Cubicle 7 should send you a commission for making the sale for me. Also, I appreciate that you think that a 20 minute video is going long; TH-cam is full of gasbags that can turn a 17 page Unearthed Arcana release into a Wagnerian 3 hour bore fest. Well produced, scripted, and paced. Keep up the good work!
> Well produced, scripted, and paced. Keep up the good work!
Fully agree, you can see that actual thought and care were put in the video script, this video is an EXCELLENT overview of Soulbound.
Bah... I really didn't want to waste more money on Warhammer than I already am... but you convinced me.
Awesome review! I love how objective the whole thing was!
I really like the compromise you did with having facecam during the parts that doesn't deal with the game mechanics. You made me happy :) Nice video - as always!
I really love Age of Sigmar very much and still look forward to the official translation of the Soulhound RuleBook into my native language. I plan to buy it even for the sake of a new interesting lore!
About pronunciation, i am a fan of warhammer staff for years and i have no idea how to say certain names. I just say what i think they should sound and act confident.
I'm actually going to be part of a Warhammer Age of Sigmar: Soulbound Campaign the group I'm a part of is doing the first main storyline released after the core rulebook and starter set Shadows in the Mist which is set in Anvilguard and the surrounding area prior to the Daughters of Khaine taking over.
Hey look there’s my name. Haha love the review, glad your enjoying it.
Was a tonne of fun to playtest the game.
Those 2d plastic minis do look great. And take about 1/20 of space that actual miniature takes.
If I can convince my friends to play it I have no issues providing minis as I have plenty in my pile of shame.
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The flat Arkknight stuff reminds me of Daggerfall Unity's flat sprites in a 3d environment.
Your reviews are really really great Dave. Thank you very much for the insight.
Doom, so I think its technically applied to RL right now....You do explanations, both verbally and visually, so well!
Why thank you, Pampi!
I run WFRP but I do hope to run a campaign in this setting at some point.
Very nicely done man, much appreciated!
Thank you!
That was such a good review. Objective, no hype, honest. Thank you.
Great video David! Keep up the awesome work!
Finally, your videos got +2 Charisma because of the visible narrator! :)
sorry but that's not a thing in this game;) I will although give him +1 training and focus in both guile and diplomacy
8:50 White Dwarf december 2019 have a pronounciaion guide. Luckly, I was literally jus geting into warhammer (40K) and bought that volume at christmas, but i can still be aquired through Warhammer Digital... if they start accepting paypal, since GW seen to have a problem with accepting my credit card by any means other than paypal...
I think you've confused mechanical progression with campaign play. The two are tied together in D&D, but don't have to be.
I know what you're saying here, but do you care to expand?
@@DaveThaumavore Getting new abilities and higher numbers isn't necessary for long campaign play. Because D&D is so heavily focused on it's progression system, a lot of people equate RPG with leveling system. (See the video game industry) But the core of roleplay is acting, improv, and storytelling, none of which need statistical growth.
Some systems have actually built flat progression or minor growth into their system. Fate allows you to gain skills after major milestones, but restricts players to swapping skill ratings in the sort term. You can add Aspects, but since you have to spend currency to use them, this doesn't really change the power level of characters. City of Mist has a similar "you can only grow so much" approach to it's progression, with themes being exchanged as characters evolve, rather than straight growth.
You equated this to super heroes, and I think that's a good idea. If you look at super heroes, they do occasionally grow in power, but this often is writers lacking a good idea, or playing too wobbly with their own constraints. Good superhero stories are about how you use your power, not how strong you can get.
Corrin Mana thanks for the explanation. It is certainly a question worth pondering. I’m likely to make an opinion poll about this. Very curious.
I've read a number of WFB players had a hard time accepting AoS mostly it was because they didn't let the story get fleshed out
Great overview and a bit of history too. Nice.
that was a really good video, informative but didnt bog down on details, thanks for the video. +1 sub
Thank you!
I'll keep using the Old World for my fantasy setting but using the OSE rules.
I vastly prefer the Old World to this setting.
They don't seem to have a quickstart guide so I can't check it for myself, but is this a roll and add kind of dice pool system (like the D6 system) or a roll and count successes? It seems to be kind of... both?
It’s really a count the successes system. You have Focus points in skills that can add points to die results, but that’s only to edge your numbers towards more results.
@@DaveThaumavore And you discount sucesses (so point for point) from the creature's Toughness? If it's 20 like the one in the video, it could take a while...
That could be the intention, though...
@@allluckyseven Yeah, toughness is the HP. The maw crusha in the video's example is a tough boss. But with a party of four casting crazy spells and hammering away at it, you could whittle away all that Toughness in just a few rounds.
Very thorough review, thanks
I found that very helpful. Thank you.
Hmmm... I can't help wonder if this could be combined with WFRP 4e..? I'm a WFRP 4e fan (although I'm NOT an expert - far from it) but as a GM trying to set up games for the players, I do get the feeling that they're not all that into all the backstory stuff for the characters, too much wandering around without core purpose for doing so, plunging into encounters/combat with minimal strength, poor weapons and armour (after all they're just some poor people or whatever who just became hungry for adventure, etc.). I do have a hard time getting my kids into RPG (they've been kind enoug to try...) as they're used to digital games with hardcore actions being the heroes with heavy weapons or abilities... I do try to adjust the settings and startingpoint, etc. but it's tricky as you have to start somewhere. But maybe Soulbound combined with WFRP could work? I don't know, just throwing it out there...
Anyway, great review of the game.. Love it!
You don’t really need to adopt anything from Soulbound in order to infuse power in your players’ characters and purpose to their quest. Those are more general tweaks.
We’ve mixed Soulbound and 4e, using d6s and if a stat (for example Ballistic Skill) is 45% you get 4d6, just like how it converts SB and TB using only the tens. Same character career progression from 4e, it’s just purely a mechanical resolution change from d% to d6.
I'm hoping to master this before or after with my D&D group. Spells and miracles can be usesd by any class?
Very good video, straightforward, good editing as well
Just wanted to let people know if they're coming back a year later, they have by now released a book that lets you play properly as factions from the destruction roster, but sadly still not anything from Grand alliance death.
I'm not sad that chaos hasn't gotten an expansion yet constantly wanting to destroy the world kind of bores me.
Yeah, probably the only kind of all-Destruction campaign I’d want to be a part of would be the kind where the PCs are in opposition to their natural goals.
@@DaveThaumavore Indeed, leaving the players in the position where it would be hard to make complimentary goals is something I could see as a problem for the destruction factions.
Like giantkin, or whatever they've renamed them to, seem like they mostly want to make everyone their slaves, but gloomspite gits would probably want to empower their spider god and I'm not sure how those sorts of things could be compatible with each other.
That's sort of why I'm sad that they started with destruction instead of death, because the death faction actually wants to change the whole status quo rather than preserve it or blow it up.
Thanks for the reply :-)
@@Sara3346 I know this comment was a while ago so hopefully my reply is unnecessary, but just in case, Champions of Death was released in November 2021, Champions of Destruction released in March 2022. There’s also a confirmed Champions of Chaos book coming sometime later this year
This sounds absolutely AMAZING!!!!
It's a awesome Tabletop RPG my group just finished our first session of Warhammer Age of Sigmar Soulbound Shadows in the Mist. We're currently doing the first book in the overarching six-parter Blood Tide as we ended with the Binding/Party slaying a Levi-Crho that was attacking the ship we were sailing on the BlackFin.
@@derrickhaggard that sounds like you guys had a really fun time
@@elias1579 We did. We had a great time.
Thanks .. and Doh.. now i need to buy it xD
I'm sold.
Really good review!
Can you play as a freeguild foot soldier/mercenary?
Yes
Thanks for the review! This is too crunchy for me.
Real shame I'm struggling ti find players these days.
Minor correction, there isn't just one god of Chaos, there's 4 of them
IT seems like they make those warhammer RPGs as coplicated as they can to make it more like bloated rules of original games
lawl, an ad for WoW shows underneath this review, I think the algorythm is confused
Games workshop donsent like seraphon for sure
"We cant trademark the word elf what are we going to do?" I imagine thats the reason why they are called aelves xD.
Wow facecam! nice.
Just pronounce it properly, like an englishman.
Im ok with the age of sigmar stuff even though it looks kind of samy. I really dislike the lore with the spheres. It feels like they took the cheapest way put on every turn
Such a horrible setting.. to think this is what replaced the amazingly brilliant classic Warhammer old world and its been somewhat successful? This is the same customer base that gives us Super hero Furries in D&D and turn everything into an anime cartoon filled with Pokémon flavor. Games Workshop has become such trash, even the Horus Heresy can't save them from themselves. Anyway I'll stick with the authentic WFRP experience
OK. Super cool story bro.
3:50 total deal breaker. Hate that chosen one anime crap. It shouldn't exist at all, but if it must then 'soulbound' should be an option, one quirky thing in the realms.
It's not like they're one off chosen ones, the implication is that there's at least thousands of them running around. Not much different from paladins or clerics to use a dnd analogy. Also aos is a high fantasy power metal album cover type setting, why doesn't it fit the setting?
@@jeromeace1282 It seems to remove player choice. Very narrow compared to say Warhammer Fantasy roleplay.
@@Tartersauce101 That one...yeah that's a good point, though given aos being all about high fantasy nonsense being like a cook or a ratcatcher definitely wouldn't fit the themes either. The systemic problems of you basically not progressing much post character creation also makes things a bit iffy for sure.