GHOST is a WANNABE Metal band

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  • Is GHOST is a WANNABE Metal band...? From the data I've seen, there's about a 50/50 split opinion on the matter. Hardcore metal enthusiasts claim GHOST doesn't posses enough heavy guitar sounds and aggressive vocals to be considered METAL. In this video we'll be watching the official video for the track, "CIRICE", which is the old english word for "CHURCH." It deals with deep themes of belonging, cults and spirituality. The question is, will METALHEADS GHOST this song, or will it be accepted as part of the heavy metal cannon? Ghost, also formerly known as Ghost B.C. in the United States, is a Swedish rock band that was formed in Linköping in 2006.
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  • @ShredmasterScott
    @ShredmasterScott  ปีที่แล้ว +7

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    • @gombka1144
      @gombka1144 ปีที่แล้ว

      In this music video there are kids mimicing playing to a recorded tape
      In a band there are I think
      2 guitars, drummer, vocal, keyboard backening vocals,and bass

    • @freedomfighter5845
      @freedomfighter5845 ปีที่แล้ว

      I consider them girl metal but I still like them. No crunch. Good hooks. Good props and image.

    • @fonesrphunny7242
      @fonesrphunny7242 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds almost as useless as a collection of standard chords in MIDI format.
      Just practice, get inspired and write shit down.

    • @Boudica234
      @Boudica234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That family reunion video was fucking hilarious. Seeing the old folks just sitting in front of that wall of metal had me in tears.

    • @seangregory932
      @seangregory932 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should check out miasma by ghost. Instrumental masterpiece

  • @lehtokurppa7824
    @lehtokurppa7824 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    Well Ghost never claimed to be anything specific, so the question in itself is irrelevant. The music is just perfect and diverse.

    • @AlastorsShadowDemon
      @AlastorsShadowDemon ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@deeingalaplike
      Not all metal is shit. The gatekeeping fans are though. “tHeYrE nOt mEtAl” all the time… it’s annoying.

    • @anthonysoto2923
      @anthonysoto2923 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ghost are a pop act. Not metal but enjoy what you want to. I guess.

    • @kiillabytez
      @kiillabytez 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AlastorsShadowDemon The same people when asked "What IS Metal then?" will only give you 2-bandds as their answer because "only those two bands are Metal and everyone else is just a poseur."

  • @widgetfilms
    @widgetfilms ปีที่แล้ว +242

    I don't really care if they are metal or not. I really connect with their music and I think they're skilled musicians. They have some songs that are undeniably metal, they have some that are more hard-rock, and they even have some that are closer to pop or EDM. I think a lot of people think they're trying to be metal. I think they're trying to be their own thing, which is something that is clearly inspired by metal at the very least.

    • @PortugueseMACPOW
      @PortugueseMACPOW ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dude Ghost is just a pop Mercyful Fate and King Diamond

    • @CTGDesigner
      @CTGDesigner ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Musically, they're solid. Impressive song writing.

    • @gombka1144
      @gombka1144 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@PortugueseMACPOW I agree yet I have to ask. Who cares? They aren't metal, but they do great music, and every single song is great

    • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
      @2yoyoyo1Unplugged ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PortugueseMACPOWand?

    • @AxiomofDiscord
      @AxiomofDiscord ปีที่แล้ว +13

      People just want to categorize everything and bands like Ghost infuriate them so they claim they are fake something to feel like they are pushing back against what frustrates them. When Ghost just wants to make Ghost music.

  • @titiand
    @titiand ปีที่แล้ว +308

    Fortunately they are so good that it doesn’t matter what genre people think they are.

    • @Salmacis99
      @Salmacis99 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Totally agree- who cares where they fall into the Genre Game?? Their songs are catchy AF, some heavy some just fun rock and roll. So who cares? just enjoy it!

    • @samizdat113
      @samizdat113 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Good"

    • @Salmacis99
      @Salmacis99 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Blake hokahey They can't be pure shit if you're comparing them to The Beatles ;-)

    • @brians7604
      @brians7604 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      trash

    • @titiand
      @titiand ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brians7604 th-cam.com/video/KCjYRd43tpw/w-d-xo.html

  • @legoaxel8695
    @legoaxel8695 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Tobias doesn't care what genre they are.
    He is writing music he likes.
    Tobias got even happy when someone told him that Ghost is like an gothic abba band because he loves abba.

    • @Craig-xf7ox
      @Craig-xf7ox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ABBA Sabbath!!!!! Ghost is the most interesting band I've heard in a very long time. I love how you can hear Zombie Queen and it's one thing then Mummy Dust it's completely something else then you can hear Life Eternal and be somewhere else.

  • @dansantosn
    @dansantosn ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Oh, and btw... if you're interested in the "lore" behind the act, it's basically this:
    There's this ancient satanic cult called "The Ministry", which wanted to spread the word of Satan in the most effective way available. In the late 60's/early 70's, since Rock music was on a global hype, they decided to spread the word that way, founding a rock band called Ghost. The lead singer would always have the title of "Papa" (which means pope). The first one was called Papa Nihil (the one we see earning the face paint and the white eye in 'Dance Macabre' video). Following the downfall of Rock, Ghost went in the shadows and was never seen again... until 2010, when the band suddenly reappears, now with a new lead singer: Papa Emeritus I (eldest son of Papa Nihil) releasing the first album (Opus Eponymous). After that, each album has a new frontman. That being said, we had Papa Emeritus II (younger brother of the previous one) in 'Infestissuman' (2013), Papa Emeritus III (youngest of the brothers) in 'Meliora' (2015) and then all 3 were mysteriously murdered, leaving the frontman spot open, but no more Nihil sons to fill in. Because of that, they were forced to, for the first time, use someone out of the bloodline, and, as so, he couldn't be called "papa". So we had Cardinal Copia for the 4th album ('Prequelle', 2018). Papa Nihil dies onstage and now, with the old leader dead, Sister Imperator (the woman we see initiating Nihil in 'Dance Macabre') promoted Cardinal Copia to papa, officially named Papa Emeritus IV and he was the frontman for the 5th and current album, "Impera', from 2022.
    The music video for the song 'Kiss The Go Goat' (supposedly a song from the old days when the band was formed in the 60's) reveals us some details that fill some holes in the plot. Back then, Nihil and Imperator were lovers, but as he was becoming a rockstar, he was getting too much attention from his female fans and for that reason they broke up. Sister Imperator was pregnant at that time, but never told him. Now, in current days, she was actually the one who ordered all Nihil's sons to be killed, so she could point someone new to the role and that someone was Cardinal Copia, her and Nihil's bastard son. That way she got her revenge and at the same time could put his bastard son in his place of right, as papa and leader of the band.
    Obviously, all that is just fiction and was being told and revealed to us slowly through the years by the band in all sorts of media (specially short lore videos they release on the band's TH-cam channel). The lead singer behind the mask (all of the masks), songwriter and creator of it all is Tobias Forge.
    Albums are always conceptual too. The first 3 were 3 parts of a same story. 'Opus Eponymous' is about the annunciation of the Antichrist coming to Earth. 'Infestissuman' is about his birth and first contact with mankind. 'Meliora' is about the relationship between him and men growing stronger and stronger, to the point we reach the absolute absence of God.
    The next 2 had a new concept of their own. 'Prequelle' compared faith and blind beliefs to a plague, fast spreading and dangerous (having the Black Plague as the conceptual background). And finally, 'Impera' is about the mankind's fetish for power and how frail it is. It takes empires as an example, since every single one of them throughout history has risen and then fallen. Never failed and will never fail, so also modern empires, no matter how much they seem to be unbreakable, will eventually fall. It's just a matter of time.
    It's simply good entertainment.

    • @adrianfytr35
      @adrianfytr35 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks👍🤘

    • @dvsmike
      @dvsmike ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not all heroes wear capes. 🤘🤘

  • @CarnorJast1138
    @CarnorJast1138 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Ghost is not Metal Only, or a "wanna be" Metal Band. They are whatever their music and songs are at the time. They can be and are any genre they want to be. Ghost is just.....Ghost.

  • @Night1989
    @Night1989 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    OMG Shred, your family reunion shredding is your hero moment, we need the full video! :D

    • @mylessterrett
      @mylessterrett ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Difficult times

    • @Jacobin777
      @Jacobin777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I busted out laughing when I saw that...! 😂

  • @SuicidalGrind
    @SuicidalGrind ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I'd say it's the way Metal has been distorted as a term in the recent years, if this released at the same time as Priest in the late 70's it would 100% be considered Metal. And that's the sort of vibe they're going for I'd say, a more classical form of Metal but with some twists that still make them stand out from the masses.
    Trust me, the first time I heard Ghost I felt disappointed, like it wasn't enough, but over time it's grown on me and I've come to realize that the whole way people think about "Metal" when calling these guys not Metal is ignorant to the fact that the whole genre of Metal has such a huge spectrum of different sounds of which definitely this fits into.
    Moral of the story is: You're allowed to not like the songs, but don't say something isn't what it's meant to be just based on that alone.

  • @hotdogsauce
    @hotdogsauce ปีที่แล้ว +60

    the power of the riff compels you

  • @tshouse2782
    @tshouse2782 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Ghost is an amazing band, who cares if they're considered metal or not. Their melodic sense sets them apart from everyone else. They rock, that's all that matters!

    • @PortugueseMACPOW
      @PortugueseMACPOW ปีที่แล้ว +3

      King Diamond is better

    • @godetonter4764
      @godetonter4764 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as you don't have to look at them

    • @sadboi7537
      @sadboi7537 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PortugueseMACPOW Duh. No shit. King is the originator.

    • @MentaIPatient
      @MentaIPatient ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PortugueseMACPOW You’re that person can’t stand to see other people enjoy anything. You have to go out of your way just to say something to try and make then less happy than they were. Your childish remarks that you go out of your way to make, is just pathetic. This is better than that, that is better than this yada yada yada. No one cares what or who you think is better.

    • @maddog7999
      @maddog7999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dog water

  • @robspectre1973
    @robspectre1973 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Ghost is the modern day version of a lost genre of metal. Blue Oyster Cult, Sabbath, Kiss, etc...
    Now do Ritual and Pinnacle

    • @jfo3000
      @jfo3000 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely Blue Oyster Cult.

  • @IRanOutOfPhrases
    @IRanOutOfPhrases ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Getting caught up in the genre game is a good way to exclude yourself from liking music

  • @metatron333ascension
    @metatron333ascension ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Cirice is like doom metal. Cirice means church but Circe is a sorceress. the girl in the video reminds me a little bit of Carrie where she has some kind of powers. Their songs usually dont catch on at first then by the first minute you are banging your head by the end you are usually singing the chorus lol. their songs are so catchy its hard not to like.

    • @metatron333ascension
      @metatron333ascension ปีที่แล้ว +13

      there are certainly some songs that are pop but the older ghost songs are more doom metal. slow and heavy a little bit of blue oyster cult mixed in with mercyful fate. i know as far as musicality they are very rich in that department. listen to their songs on another instrument. there are alot of piano renditions of their songs and they stand alone without any lyrics on piano. that's how well written the songs are.

    • @Giantcaterpillar
      @Giantcaterpillar ปีที่แล้ว +4

      also, they are killing it LIVE. Great band to watch even if your are not sure :)

    • @metatron333ascension
      @metatron333ascension ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Giantcaterpillar ghost has it all together. the image, the musicallity, the song writting, the stage show. they are up for another grammy this year for "call me little sunshine" i hope they win again. They actually won a grammy for this song "Cirice"

    • @metatron333ascension
      @metatron333ascension ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Giantcaterpillar i have yet to see them live. you can say that is...blasphemy lol i really want to see them live

    • @dive-bomb
      @dive-bomb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      please don't insult doom metal like this

  • @xanataph
    @xanataph ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Asking if Ghost is a metal band (or "wannabe metal band") is like asking if Queen is. Neither of them are, yet there are elements of both bands that make them highly enjoyed and appreciated by a certain sector of the metal music community. We tend to hear rather heavy guitar sounds in music well outside of the traditional metal genres nowadays. For the record: I like Ghost, listen to them all the time.

    • @infernalstormrider
      @infernalstormrider ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said. I listen everthing between Behemoth and Stray Cats if I like it. There is only one kind of music for me. If it's good , I listen. Living inside of box is not for me.

  • @emivalx
    @emivalx ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Ghost are definitely a metal band. Their sound is just more in line with classic metal bands circa 1970 and pre-glam 80s metal than the majority of bands today. Not every metal song has to have the cookie monster on it.

    • @Geetarman69420
      @Geetarman69420 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Exactly. The people of today who complain that they aren’t metal are the same people that listen to the new wave of 00010001101100 and growling (which isn’t bad) and then compare it to this. Of course they aren’t the same. They remind me more of Black Sabbath and old metal like that. It’s definitely metal, but not modern metal. Their new album is more like 80s hair metal though

    • @PortugueseMACPOW
      @PortugueseMACPOW ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mercyful Fate is 10 times the band Ghost will ever be

    • @widgetfilms
      @widgetfilms ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@PortugueseMACPOW I've noticed that you keep name dropping that band while attacking other people's musical tastes. It's shockingly immature. Let people enjoy things, and enjoy what you like. You'll be happier, I promise.

    • @PortugueseMACPOW
      @PortugueseMACPOW ปีที่แล้ว

      @@widgetfilms I don't need your advice, I have Andrew Tate!

    • @Thiccalus
      @Thiccalus ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mercyful Fate is awesome. I also like ghost. Lighten up dude.

  • @mr_corridor
    @mr_corridor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ghost isn’t metal, and they don’t pretend to be. Tobias said it’s more 70s and 60s rock. They’re still a fantastic band.

  • @chicodimdim3025
    @chicodimdim3025 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I usually watch your videos on music theory, but seeing you react to Ghost is a treat.

  • @MikeysMorgue
    @MikeysMorgue ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I love Ghost! Their latest album IMPERA is a masterpiece! Tobias Forge is brilliant!

  • @Chuckinator_85
    @Chuckinator_85 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think Ghost is one of the few metal bands that have the balls to do what they want instead of what everyone says they should be. I think they're amazing and by how popular they are I'm not the only one either.

    • @uhdb_lickety05_cbas72
      @uhdb_lickety05_cbas72 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course they should do what they want, same as anyone; but they're not metal!!

    • @Chuckinator_85
      @Chuckinator_85 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@uhdb_lickety05_cbas72 Ghost is Hard Rock and Heavy Metal. If you actually listened to old school Heavy Metal you'd know that. 😉

  • @LCRLive687
    @LCRLive687 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love Ghost. Very unique band. Their debut album - Opus Eponymous is fictionally the most ideal beginning of metal music.

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am impressed you got the meaning and underlying sinister intent the first time. That’s half the fun of Ghost.

  • @jozefdebeer9807
    @jozefdebeer9807 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I agree that Ghost is like a continuation of Bowie, Cooper, Manson etc. This song is definitely metal. A dark riff, that would hold up along side Black Sabbath riffs. Clear vocals are acceptable in metal, Bruce Dickinson and Ozzy Ozbourne exist. I have heard other Ghost songs that aren't metal, but really well done hard rock.
    While not commonly done, there is no reason that a band can do some songs that are metal and some that are definitely not metal.

    • @atvena
      @atvena ปีที่แล้ว

      Shock rock

  • @lauscho
    @lauscho ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ghost... I'd say... classic metal. Like, Black Sabbath meets Blue Oyster Cult. Super melodic, but yeah, the aesthetic fits the metal sphere.
    Honestly, though, so many people are too caught up in the question of "are they metal?" instead of asking "are they GOOD?". And the answer to the latter is HELL YEAH.

    • @atvena
      @atvena ปีที่แล้ว

      Occult rock/proto metal

  • @sonountaleban
    @sonountaleban ปีที่แล้ว +26

    They remind me a lot Blue Oyster Cult, which by the way the latter were considered already "heavy metal" at their time in the late '70s. Also their esoteric theme is close to Mercyful Fate stuff, thus this band is definitely metal.

    • @Siomir1969
      @Siomir1969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly.

    • @mrmercedes8528
      @mrmercedes8528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The joke that is ghost : is on the planet as MERCYFUL FATE- let alone belonging in the same sentence

    • @paveantelic7876
      @paveantelic7876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      occult rock in other words

    • @fernandosepulveda7297
      @fernandosepulveda7297 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mrmercedes8528 go cry some more

    • @atvena
      @atvena ปีที่แล้ว

      Occult rock/proto metal

  • @belgomez96
    @belgomez96 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Post twist: they are so good that no one cares if it's metal or not. Actually, Tobias Forge defines it as Hard Rock

  • @BrandonKBills
    @BrandonKBills ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They’re taking heavy metal back to its roots. It may not seem heavy now but if you dive into the lyrics and the lore of the band and don’t think they’re metal, you’re out of your mind.

  • @quentinrozhenko8321
    @quentinrozhenko8321 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In 1975 my brother was babysitting me on a Friday night. He went outside at around 11pm to connect our bass boat to the truck for a fishing trip the next morning. He came running back inside in a panic, told me to hide, grabbed a shotgun, and ran back outside.
    After a little while he came back inside and got me. We went outside and about 300 yards away there was a glowing blue metallic ball above some trees. It would zip back and forth then go down and out of sight in a T pattern. It appeared to be about 15 feet in diameter more or less.
    He called a friend of his nearby and told him to get a gun and camera ready and we were coming to get him. As soon as we pulled out on the road this thing instantly zipped over and was right above the truck about 20 feet above us. The engine died so we couldn`t drive away. He shoved me down into the floor of the truck and got out and aimed the gun at it. It instantly zipped straight up into the sky and vanished.
    Nobody answered the door at his friend`s house so we left. We ran into another guy he knew after going down the road closer to where we`d seen it hovering over the trees. The time should have been no later than 15 minutes after midnight but the guy told us it was after 3am.
    In 1999 I was fishing at night around 11pm on the Louisiana side of the Sabine river. I was just checking a catfishing spot in a bay beside the river with rods because the water was rising and the catfish usually start biting in that area when the river rises. I had planned to get back to the boat dock in our yard before midnight because a TV show I planned to watch was coming on. If the catfish were biting I planned to put out trotlines and hoop nets the next day to catch fish to sell.
    Right after I tied the boat up and threw out my rods two huge rectangle shaped things way bigger than mobile homes appeared in a cow pasture down the river. They were flying (more like floating) along some power lines,one on either side, and slowly coming towards me. Each of them had four squares of soft yellowish/white light on the front that covered the entire front except for black borders around them.
    I turned off my light and reeled in my rods, cranked the motor, and started puttering as fast as I could safely go in the dark towards a canal leading back to our boat dock. I had to go towards these things which were slowly coming towards me so I was about to panic. One started going up and the other down as the four square panels of light began to turn into squares inside squares until they became very bright and pretty brilliant sparkling dots of multicolored lights. Then they blinked off and vanished. They never made any sounds. I remember on the way out there while in the canal seeing a very quick flash of colors to my right through the fog in the trees but it was dim and I assumed it came from a spotlight beam on the other side of the island.
    When I reached the boat dock only minutes later my girlfriend was standing there looking very upset. She told me it was after 5am. It should have been just after 11pm. I never went fishing out there again and I normally fished several times a week.
    This encounter left me with a feeling of dread I can`t explain because what I saw was beautiful. I`m actually afraid to go camping alone and have never gone fishing alone at night since. The frustration of wondering but not knowing what happened to me is intense and has only increased over time.
    We see countless crazy stories like this on the internet and if only 10% of them are true then our current "understanding" of science and physics is very wrong. I suspect that government officials do understand many science and physics "mysteries" far more than they admit and have hidden many wonderful discoveries that could explain a lot of these bizarre experiences people keep reporting because terrorists could use this knowledge to do great harm.
    I`ve seen a lot more that this and there are mutiple types. I`ve seen extremely bright golden orbs go all the way across the daytime sky much faster than the Space Shuttles I`ve seen pass over to land in Florida. I`ve seen the very large triangles slowly pass over that had a fog or plasma glow around them. Most of the ones I`ve seen were white orbs, usually in groups. I`m disgusted by how most scientists respond to my questions about these things. Thank God this man isn`t like that!

    • @dnr415
      @dnr415 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So...........do you think Ghost is metal or no?

    • @dnr415
      @dnr415 ปีที่แล้ว

      @SHREDMASTERSCOTT-- I dont know what you mean about winning a prize??

  • @99proff
    @99proff ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Given Tobias' musical past and how easy it is to emulate a genre, do people actually think Ghost is trying to be metal and failling? If they're not more metal that is completely his choice. What's really hard is to come up with well crafted and interesting songs that create your own sound and vibe and in that Ghost has clearly succeded.

  • @MentaIPatient
    @MentaIPatient ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let us know when you make it to their level of success with your “metal band” 👍

  • @davidcole2337
    @davidcole2337 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They just won AMA 2022 Best Rock Album and put on a Hell of a show. Saw them in September.. They are more 80's Hard Rock which is when I grew up..

  • @1683clifton
    @1683clifton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If your family makes you feel shitty for shredding, you get a new family! I'm there Shredmaster Scott! Dont let your dreams be dreams

  • @pinkfloyd70s1
    @pinkfloyd70s1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As soon as vocals kick in im checked out, they dont match the feel of the song

    • @bobbyo5807
      @bobbyo5807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea that pretty much is what ruins it for me and the music is-meh....ok I guess.I think these guys are a bit overrated but are successful so what do I know lol

    • @the_seer_0421
      @the_seer_0421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah man. It's exactly the contrast between the that evil riff and the charming vocals that I like mostly about it. Not every song has to have harsh vocals you know...

  • @trentonmcintyre5617
    @trentonmcintyre5617 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It’s hard to call them strictly a metal band but they do have some metal-adjacent songs, cirice being a good example. As someone who mostly likes heavier shit I think ghost is decent, no more gimmicky than black metal bands anyway

    • @Geetarman69420
      @Geetarman69420 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think that they are a metal band at heart, but they experiment

    • @trentonmcintyre5617
      @trentonmcintyre5617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, I’m not a huge ghost fan but I respect what they’re doing but most metalheads hate on them for no reason other than the fact that they dislike them

  • @wassupinlasvegas9735
    @wassupinlasvegas9735 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They don't have to worry about who their audience is at this point. It's not like they're struggling to fit in somewhere.

  • @dimebagmcgraw
    @dimebagmcgraw ปีที่แล้ว +120

    If ghost is metal, then acdc is screamo

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh no. Don't kick them out of a dying genre.

    • @coolguy4179
      @coolguy4179 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Jordan-Ramses Funny thing is AC/DC isn't metal either. They are hard rock. They will even tell you they aren't heavy metal. Too much blues in what they do to be really considered along titans of metal like Judas Priest or Iron Maiden.

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@coolguy4179 who cares? That is gatekeeping nonsense. I like all kinds of music.
      I'm starting to believe that metal needs to die. It's full of the most toxic nonsense. I can't take anyone seriously who only likes one genre of music.

    • @mrmercedes8528
      @mrmercedes8528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WTF is screamo?

    • @mrmercedes8528
      @mrmercedes8528 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jordan-Ramses: good for you : do you feel better ? No one cares about your feelings or if you take them seriously: I’m sure you have bigger problems: like finally moving out of mom’s basement

  • @glassmonkeyface8609
    @glassmonkeyface8609 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't care what self appointed Gatekeepers think about Ghost. They transcend genres and can write and play circles around other bands. Their music connects, is gaining an even bigger audience, which makes the haters even more mad, and it's great. I've been going to Ghost shows since before Cirice came out with the original band members and they keep growing and getting better.

  • @DougRG
    @DougRG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That family reunion footage was incredible.

  • @chrisryan7283
    @chrisryan7283 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Yeah, those were difficult times." Haha! That family reunion looked painful.

  • @TrapHouseZombie
    @TrapHouseZombie ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They might not be Heavy metal but they are definitely a sub-genre of Metal and they seem to be very good at what they do.

  • @Kreighouston
    @Kreighouston ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love this band. They are very focused on their approach to music.

    • @robertwalker3357
      @robertwalker3357 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ghost suck, slayer now they are metal

    • @Kreighouston
      @Kreighouston ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertwalker3357 no Ghost doesn’t suck. They are relative and very talented. I liked Slayer in the day. But now they suck because they are not relative. Oh wait, they have retired! 🤦‍♂️

    • @atvena
      @atvena ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robertwalker3357 so unless it's metal it sucks? Dude you must not be a musician then

    • @Joe.888
      @Joe.888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@robertwalker3357 you're an edgy little ray of sunshine aren't you

  • @chairmankaga101
    @chairmankaga101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Metal is a spectrum. More importantly the band (well, Tobias) writes cool songs with lots of atmosphere and sonic nuance.

  • @theconcerned
    @theconcerned ปีที่แล้ว +5

    it's Dance Metal...

  • @CTGDesigner
    @CTGDesigner ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This best part of this review is Shred's video performance from back in this early days. Lol. Omg...that's hilarious Shred!! 😁🤘😂

  • @chart6454
    @chart6454 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They are what they are and aren’t asking permission to mix up genres. But they aren’t “wannabe” metal, as there is no sign they want to get metal. They want to make good, fun tunes and they succeed at that.

  • @Siomir1969
    @Siomir1969 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude. Well done. I agree about mood playing a large role in one's choice of music at a given time. Is Ghost 'metal'? I dunno... metal used to be about embracing individuality, channeling aggression, strangeness and other shit that 'mainstream' people shied away from. Was Black Sabbath metal? Various Ghost songs remind me of Sabbath (and BOC, as another comment mentioned) tbh. You wore a Priest hat in the video, and there are quite a few Priest tunes that simply wouldn't fit in whatever 'modern' interpretation of 'metal' some people seem to have. Screw that. We have many flavors, one for every mood. From screaming riffs that make your ears bleed to dark and contemplative moments, from head-banging slam-dances to lyrics that send your brain on a trip. That... is Metal.
    Thanks for the awesome videos, man. From an old metal head who's fingers are too damned arthritic to keep up with many of your lessons. Keep it up!

    • @Geetarman69420
      @Geetarman69420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personally I like ghost more than any modern metal band today. I feel like ghost channels what made sabbath and preist great and changes it slightly. Personally I love it

    • @the_seer_0421
      @the_seer_0421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, an educated and well thought out comment. I never thought I'd see that in this comment section.

  • @UltimateGamerCC
    @UltimateGamerCC ปีที่แล้ว +2

    people can say that Ghost isnt Metal and tbh, i dont give a dead moose's last shit, they are awesome and i'll happily check out anything new they release, i love gimmicks and Ghost puts on their best to entertain the masses.

  • @tomgiddens2963
    @tomgiddens2963 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ghost is always getting a hard time from people about their music but, honestly, it doesn't matter to me either. I enjoy their sound. It's a welcome change from bands that sound too samey. At any rate, I think they're a great band.

  • @PinoyChillingVisionsStories
    @PinoyChillingVisionsStories ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hate those people who are purist.We just have to be thankful that there's still a new rock band who is still making their songs in the airwaves.

  • @fatimapalacios2292
    @fatimapalacios2292 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ghost is a great rock band. I don't like to lock them in a genre, in fact I don't think they want to be in a specific music genre either. However I like them a lot!

  • @themasterjinn
    @themasterjinn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The point is GHOST is the band they want to be, and strive not to be like any other band out there. Are they Metal? Yes!

  • @fransnilsson7333
    @fransnilsson7333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to listen to your Songs..what label are they on ? :)

  • @timshady7099
    @timshady7099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I hear this song, its so dark and the buildup to the chorus seems like its gonna be really dark and then your hit with "feel the rumble in your heart" and I just feel slightly let down. Love the video though, and I think they're a great band.

  • @jabberdouche
    @jabberdouche ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the beginning of this song sound kinda like South of Heaven, or was I just a bit high?

  • @ebenezerspludge8369
    @ebenezerspludge8369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After thinking about it, Put the girl with the hula hoop back on because she won the talent show. Completely outclassed this band.

  • @theconcerned
    @theconcerned ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Behemoth would never cover Enter Sandman.

    • @tattoo5409
      @tattoo5409 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's probably true. But Nergal did a side project with Tobias.

  • @jesusperdew9010
    @jesusperdew9010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The cross in the music video I looked it up here’s the info. In Christianity, it is associated with the martyrdom of Peter the Apostle. The symbol originates from the Catholic tradition that when sentenced to death, Peter requested that his cross be upside down, as he felt unworthy of being crucified in the same manner as Jesus. Found resources was safari

  • @tonaholcomb8602
    @tonaholcomb8602 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think they started out pretty metal then expanded out and It works for them, listening to the first two albums and by the 3rd they expanded out and really went for it in the 4th. Seriously Dance Macabre is basically ABBA in metal form with a dark theme, and clever wordplay.

  • @rawrbrz
    @rawrbrz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Question: how is Ghosts music different from rehashing 80s glam rock in 2020s? Maybe I haven’t heard enough music but it just sounds like any hair metal band

  • @partyfrog3914
    @partyfrog3914 ปีที่แล้ว

    The band consisted of currently
    Mountain- drummer
    Rain- bassist
    Sodo- lead guitar
    Aether- rythem guitar
    Swiss- multi mostly backup vocals
    Cirrus - also multi mostly keytar
    Cumulus -same as cirrus
    Sunshine- also multi
    Copia- leader/vocals
    Correct me if I’m wrong

  • @maxflow151
    @maxflow151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "yeah, those were difficult times" got real a second there. I could hear it.

  • @-marino2782
    @-marino2782 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude that family reunion footage had me rollin,, hilarious

  • @rolsen1304
    @rolsen1304 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's more depth to you Shred then I have seen before. I like seeing that side of you.

  • @johnnytmcq
    @johnnytmcq ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'd say that they're like Metal infused prog. Whatever they are, I've been warming up to them recently.
    If you go in expecting metal, you will probably be disappointed. But if you go into it expecting just some cool music, then I think they definitely have something to offer.

    • @Geetarman69420
      @Geetarman69420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you go in expecting modern* metal. They are definitely inspired by old bands like sabbath, preist, maiden that type of stuff. I really enjoy them because I feel like the modern metal of today isn’t really the best. To me it just feels like they are reviving the music that I really enjoy

  • @kevinhenry68
    @kevinhenry68 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Ghost is just as "heavy" as 80s bands like Dio. But what do you consider metal? Screaming vocals? Dio didn't scream but was very metal. Shredding solos? Not every band uses them. Double kick drums? Those are stylistic choices that some metal bands utilize but not all. There are bands that ride the line between rock and metal musically and if I can't decide then I go to their look. Ghost definitely has a metal look and vibe. Still can't tell? Go to the lyrics. While rock bands are mostly concerned with the sex, drugs, and rock and roll thing, Ghost's lyrics are deeper. They delve into terrain usually only explored by metal bands. The music is melodic, not super aggressive, and catchy but definitely metal in my opinion. You may disagree and that's fine. Art is subjective. It's different for each person who hears it, sees it, reads it, etc.

    • @ziggybongwater7915
      @ziggybongwater7915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well said.

    • @Siomir1969
      @Siomir1969 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. And considering metal is supposed to be individualistic, why in the HELL should all metal bands follow... yeah... gonna say it... the typical cliches? Screaming vocals, shredding solos, and double kick drums to snag three of those you named. Doesn't mean I do not love all of the above, but damn. If they were all the same, I would have lost interest decades ago.

    • @mat5267
      @mat5267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could argue that the lyrics are very cliche.

    • @kevinhenry68
      @kevinhenry68 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mat5267 sure. And aren't they all? Most metal bands are working with lyrical tropes that have been around for decades. Every other genre as well. The secret to any art is to do what others before you have done, but in a way that makes it your own.

  • @schleifpunkt.tv2092
    @schleifpunkt.tv2092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always love how people just assume they are something that they never truly wanted to be.
    Ghost is a mix of some metal elements and classic 70s 80s rock mixed with satanic lyrics and some more soft emotional vibes that can absolutely kick ass.
    Yes it’s an love or hate thing but Cmon just appreciate it for what it is and the work behind it. Not everything that’s satanic is automatically heavy metal or death metal.
    And if you want a bit more heavy stuff listen to songs like mummy dust, faith or twenties. They have something for everyone.
    For me Tobias Alias Mr.Ghost is an absolute mastermind and genius. But too each there own

  • @hotdogsauce
    @hotdogsauce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i hit the like for your family reunion clip, shred. lol, so at least one like had nothing to do with ghost.😂

  • @brettbailey2628
    @brettbailey2628 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would say YES....Uriah Heep meets Cathedral? The King said that they are a cool band that reminded him of Blue Oyster Cult and he likes them....agreed.

  • @ricksmith-wz8th
    @ricksmith-wz8th ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cirice is the Girls name.
    The band is a kids talent show band.
    Yes they are a metal band.

  • @Tysandifer
    @Tysandifer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They could easily be a metal band, but they never give up that spooky rock vibe (which could be hard to pull off if strictly metal, I mean secular haze as a metal song wouldn't be the same)

    • @adrianfytr35
      @adrianfytr35 ปีที่แล้ว

      My thought is that the spooky sound is what makes it metal lol. To each their own.🤘

  • @emmettgros8535
    @emmettgros8535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The lead singer don't drink wap juice he's a hot dog flavored water guy

  • @stephenhensley5631
    @stephenhensley5631 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry what I said below, but I dig listening to your break down of music and bands .

  • @moonfiredawn666
    @moonfiredawn666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love ghost but I remember when bands like coven and black widow were the dark sounds

  • @1472Ravean
    @1472Ravean ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ghost is no wannabe metal band because they are no metal band and they never intended to be one. Metalheads get that part wrong because the thought that writing songs about hell, horror, evil and so on is entitled to the metal genre... I´m a musician myself and i prefere metal but ghost is no metal band and I really believe it´s not their intention to be considered a metal band. They´re great at what they´re doing and their music is brilliant... metal or not metal

  • @quickscopeoneeighty9158
    @quickscopeoneeighty9158 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sir Reece = Cirice

  • @briansmodelcarhobbyists9763
    @briansmodelcarhobbyists9763 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me I don't think ghost is a real heavy metal band that's like saying Linkin Park is heavy metal

  • @marcusberggren9241
    @marcusberggren9241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the older stuff i'd consider metal, their newer stuff is everything and anything. It's a mix of this and that with a bit of something else sprinkled on top. you can hear influences from all kinds of past great metal and Rock bands from the 70s and 80s.

  • @PhoenixBird9000
    @PhoenixBird9000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let's see... Guitars? Check. Drums? Check. Vocals? Check. Dark lyrical content? Check. Sounds like metal to me. I'm not a Ghost fan, I can take or leave them, but their songs do contain all the classic elements found across the spectrum of Metal music. I think some people get too hung up on focusing on certain specific sub-genres. Not everything Metal today has to be Death Metal or Black Metal or Thrash Metal. To me, a "wannabe" Metal band would be a band that lacks the ability to play real music but plays at it just to cash in because that's what the record company tells them to do. If Ghost were using autotune and computers to make their sound and not playing real instruments or actually singing, and instead doing what the majority of "pop" stars are doing, then and only then would I be willing to level that accusation.

  • @jesusperdew9010
    @jesusperdew9010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What song did u play in ur family reunion

  • @WolfOfLosAngeles
    @WolfOfLosAngeles ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In think ghost first album is their most dark and metal sounding

  • @jakewilliams5796
    @jakewilliams5796 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I grew up in the late 80s and I think Ghost is great they are just as metal as Sabbath or Maiden or Cooper, they have their own shtick and i'd totally see them live if they came to the PNW.

  • @jimphilidor9031
    @jimphilidor9031 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think they even label themselves as metal. I like that they have different kinds of influences. They might sound heavy at times but they also have this boybandish undertone. Their music sounds fresh.
    I loved the family reunion footage, lol.

    • @gombka1144
      @gombka1144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe that in their first songs they were doing something like candlemass + blue oyster cult + abba with their own style on top

  • @larsthesing8015
    @larsthesing8015 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They mix many musical influences and do it great. And metal is the vein .
    Tobias Forge is a Metalhead through and through.

  • @dansantosn
    @dansantosn ปีที่แล้ว

    I never really understood this "fight" about Ghost being Metal or not, because they've NEVER claimed to be haha. General media did, but general media usually classifies anything heavier than Imagine Dragons as "hard Rock/Metal" anyways. Ghost is just a fucking great Rock band with an awesome versatility. They're just bringing back two cool things Rock music used to have back then and was kinda fading away with time: theatricality and the infamous "flirting with Satan". And the best part is they're doing it backed by really well written music and that's what really matters. The "tr00 headbangers" taking it all so seriously and losing their shit is just sad and hilarious at the same time hahaha.
    You got them right really quick at a first listening. That shows wisdom, a very rare thing nowadays. Nice and smooth reaction! *clap*

  • @sphynx108
    @sphynx108 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I personally think that ghost is a heavy metal band, like Black Sabbath. I hear a lot of Tony and Ozzy in their song.

  • @SirDingle
    @SirDingle ปีที่แล้ว

    i was front row at a ghost concert and when they performed cirice, he grabbed the girls hand that was standing right next to me just like in the video and it was awesome

  • @JoJoRock197
    @JoJoRock197 ปีที่แล้ว

    That family reunion video was simultaneously impressive and hilarious 😂

  • @daviddyer3076
    @daviddyer3076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ghost are the modern metal version of the Blue Oyster Cult.

  • @bongo_baggins
    @bongo_baggins ปีที่แล้ว

    People seem to forget that there was nearly three decades of metal music before guttural vocals, saturated quad tracked guitars, and blast beats became the norm. Metalheads don't seem to mind bands reviving 80s thrash and speed metal, why is it so wrong for a band to celebrate the sounds of 70's metal while updating it with darker imagery?

  • @MrCplChicken
    @MrCplChicken ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the family reunion flashback. They were thrashing on the inside. LOL. Also, quite a big family.

  • @TexAgsArmyVet
    @TexAgsArmyVet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love Ghost. I saw them open for Iron Maiden in 2017. Thier show was fantastic!! People can hate all they want. Ghost is unique and is clearly doing something right. Are they metal? Rock? Occult rock?
    Don't know, don't care!!
    🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @bramford7e
    @bramford7e ปีที่แล้ว

    Kiss had songs like Shandi and Beth. I never hear people trying to put them in another category other than metal or hard rock.

  • @quickscopeoneeighty9158
    @quickscopeoneeighty9158 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Ghost is just Kiss for the modern era

  • @Drummerjeffkazee
    @Drummerjeffkazee ปีที่แล้ว

    Tobias doesn't want this band to be metal. He wants the 70s and 80s sound and a little late 60s sound.

  • @sprinkleddonuts6094
    @sprinkleddonuts6094 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was their Play on Carrie, easy to miss when not paying attention

  • @Max_Drunk
    @Max_Drunk ปีที่แล้ว

    Some have just a few thousand subscribers on TH-cam and some have millions of fans all over the world. That is just how the world works.

  • @RockWonder210
    @RockWonder210 ปีที่แล้ว

    Family reunion was hilarious. Why did no other member of the family pick up the drums or bass. 4 guitars?! What is this Maiden?!

  • @LycanTroop3
    @LycanTroop3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I almost wanna put them in the same room as Alice Cooper lol

  • @the64Kquestion
    @the64Kquestion ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love them and Cirice might be my favourite Ghost song. I had found their first two albums interesting and quite entertaining, but when Meliora came out, I felt they had reached the next level in terms of songwriting and production. They haven't disappointed me since then. The intro and verse of Cirice have some of the sickest doomy riffs ever written. "Metal" has become so diverse that it doesn't mean a thing to say what is metal and what is not. I would call them melodic classic rock with a heavy/doom metal vibe. Anyway, it is great music.

  • @zacharyluhman9022
    @zacharyluhman9022 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You and your cousins were awesome, those boomers just don't get it

    • @bobbyo5807
      @bobbyo5807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought that was the best part of the whole thing myself 😆