Drum Teacher Reacts | BILLY RYMER (The Dillinger Escape Plan) - 'When I Lost My Bet' (2020 Reaction)
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No one will ever sound like Dillinger Escape Plan. They are their own sound. R.I.P.
Such an amazing and unique band.
it makes me sad knowing i'll never get to see them live
@@tomasdepaivacardoso9579 they will be back in a few years
@@onnovdw really??? How do u know that?
@@tomasdepaivacardoso9579 I saw them twice - the first time I was 26 and before they even got through Panasonic Youth (the first song they played) I saw a guy getting carried out with a trail of blood dripping from his nose. It was a new thing for me.
Why is no-one talking about that bass tone. Holy shit
oh its amazing
Reminds me of Blacky from Voivod.
👊🏼
Soo good!!!
Loskla Prada shaw. Meda haw next von holep!
Ah, if you're gonna dive into The Dillinger Escape Plan for the first time you're in for a ride! Have fun! 👍
Can't wait!
So true
Its a shame there's no real good footage of Dillinger's original drummer Chris Pennie.
He was a God.
@@michaelvieregge2257 true, there's plenty of footage of him playing in Coheed.. but he doesn't really shine as he did in Dillinger.
@@michaelvieregge2257 And really there's not a lot of playthrough's of their songs at all which sucks. This one, Prancer, and that's all I can think of...
How freaking amazing is drumming!? This is pure passion, skill and intensity.
Blown away. Can't wait for the next one!!!
Ive been lucky enough to have seen The Dillinger Escape Plan play twice before they disbanded. They are without a doubt one of the most energetic and impactful performances I have seen.
If you're looking for more, I'd do either of the two other songs played on the same Drumeo lesson :)
The lesson itself is also very good ^^
please do 43% burnt they released that track in 1999 and its just so forward thinking and just so chaotic! dillinger purposely examined music theory and all the note intervals all the time signatures EVERYTHING THAT MUSIC THEORY SAID USE IN SELDOM they just did all the time and it was pure magic
listen to ion dissonance as well that is some incredible stuff very very inspired by dillinger and meshuggah
@@derek.invyckb thank you for mentioning Ion Dissonance! so good!and no one I know ever heard of them!
It might sound pretentious but drumming is such a primal way of expressing yourself. Thanks for rockin!'
Saw them live at warped 2012, my friend caught billys drum stick, gave it to me, the whole band signed it. Epic experience, nicest guys
AWESOME!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums thx man! Your channel is dido, subbed.
Chris Pennie's work on their album, 'Calculating Infinity', is outstanding.
I found playing guitar really opened up my left side independence on the drums.
The first time i heard Panasonic Youth on MTV's Headbangers Ball in '04 or 05, i was absolutely flabbergasted as a guitarist and drummer.
Dillinger Escape Plan was one of the hardest bands for me to come to listen to due to its chaotic nature. Yet, here I am, proud to have seen them live twice and find emotional attachment to several songs a couple years later.
And just like this video clearly shows, they are super intricate and it's so much to be learned from each instrument when dissected. It can seem daunting and harrowing, but wooooh the reward down the line!
Andrew! Not necessary for a reaction video, but I recommend you check out this song again with the studio version or even a live performance and just hearing the whole jam with the vocals too. It's a trip!
Thanks for that! Very intense for a first time listen!
Amen, and well said!
Same, my father would play this band all the time but never liked them. It wasn't until I saw them live I grew to love them. The funny thing was that show was the 2nd final show in New York.
As someone who has been drumming for a few years I have been listening to extreme music for a while and had heard the name a bit back in the day. One day playing clone hero with my step brother and Panasonic youth came up on random. I was stunned. I didn't know what to make of it. Never heard ANYTHING like them before. instantly listened to everything they ever released. Did not like them much at first but liked the style and liked a few gems like Prancer, Farewell Mona Lisa, and more. Now I can just throw on their discography and know the words to any song that comes up and understand it musically somewhat...but I still notice little things in songs I never noticed before even after years of listening, and thats why I love them SO MUCH. Years later and they still sound unique, I find I need to take breaks from them though and listen to more normal stuff or everything that isnt Dillinger starts to sound plain and boring...
@@droppedmydagger3834 you know you've found your jam when it puts boredom on everything else, D.!
That was amazing. His dynamics, musicality and precision were all first rate. As a drummer and a pianist myself I appreciate the shout out to the importance of playing other instruments. Let's not forget that technically piano is a percussion instrument -- but with colour -- and its by being sensitive the tonal colours of sound, and not just the rhythmic elements, that we become better drummers
Nice stuff Phil!
I’ve met and jammed with Billy. He is phenomenally talented
“I’m a little bit stunned here..this is amazing”.
Yes, yes it is.
Used to chat with Ben and Billy back when Facebook was new and talk about nice and intelligent gentlemen... Saw them at least 10 times live...So amazing and gone forever...
I was fortunate enough to catch Dillinger on their Farwell tour at the kings arms. It was the end of an Era for both the band and the venue. Most memorable live show of my life. None of them miss a beat. And that's even when half of the band are hanging from the lighting rigs or crowd surfing. Damn I miss them.
Can we stop and admire that bass tone while we're here?
Yes, i love the sound of Liam Wilson. For me, a Legend of the Bass.
I recall Billy commenting when he first joined the band that learning their existing material he had to look at no more than 4 bars at a time.. and then he built on that approach. One of my all time fave bands and definitely one of my favourite 3 drummers. . .
Gold Teeth on a Bum, Black Bubblegum, Paranoia Shield, there are too many to mention but those songs jump to my mind immediately
These guys are on a whole other level
🙌
Billy Rymer is one of the best in the genre right now, he's going to be well remembered after he's all done.
Yes Jake!
One way to describe Dillinger Escape Plan, Chaotic
Billy Rymer is simply amazing, he has such a unique style and still he is such an humble musician, One Of Us Is The Killer is their best record imho
I need to check out more of him Andrea! 💯🙌
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Yes, One of us is the Killer is a wonderfull album, but for me the best of Dillinger is Option Paralysis, first work with Billy Rymer.
Way back I was at a Dillinger show that they were playing with Between the buried and me and after the last song of the last set instead of a traditional encore he and Blake Richardson came out of stage just the 2 of them and they had a drum off. It was mind numbing. Truly absolute masters of their craft.
@@alexfreakdaxer927 I agree Option is an amazing record and my favourite by them. To be from the era it is, it is a little 90's sounding production wise. I find myself often wanting to hear what it would have sounded like if it was more polished, but that would probably have removed so much of the raw energy.
Totally agreed with the points made at the beginning there. Being somebody whose first instrument was and always will be drums/percussion, I'm eternally grateful that I decided to learn other instruments. Being able to interpret music in a pragmatic, mathematical sense helps a lot with composition. I primarily play guitar now, but I'm a solo musician and producer and my percussive compositions have definitely changed the more I've taken influence from elsewhere. Percussive counterpoint in composition really stands out when it's utilized effectively, and understanding how that works from a melodic standpoint is definitely something every drummer should strive to learn. My favourite mainstream example of really effective percussive counterpoint is Stewart Copeland from the Police, what an absolute unit of a drummer. TDEP is fantastic as well, had the pleasure of seeing them in concert in the late 2000s, awesome live group.
Loved Billy for a long time. He has an excellent stick technique.
yesss!! my favorite band.,., Billy is so unique! I think he has a "Prancer" play through as well if you want more drum isolation videos from him.
I miss Dillinger Escape Plan so much!! My fav band all time!!
This was awesome, so glad you were introduced to Billy Rymer and TDEP! He is absolutely outstanding, and probably my favorite drummer, ever.
OMG...i'm very very happy because since 2011 this is my favorite drummer of all times too. Billy Rymer, Chris Pennie and Gil Sharone are the beasts on this istrument.
More Dillinger Escape Plan please!!! Maybe a regular live version of one of their songs so you can hear the full band with the singer. I suggest the song Panasonic Youth by them.
I saw TDEP live in 2010 when they were touring Option Paralysis and ohmygod they f__ken shredded my face and earsholes that night! Unfortunately, didn’t have a chance to see them perform later but the energy they gave and their drums+bass combo is probably the most powerful I’ve seen. Unforgettable.
I agree, the Sync of every instruments on Dillinger is the greatnest of all times....on my opinion.
PLEASE DO MORE DILLINGER 43% burnt is their swan song chris pennie was an absolute monster
I can't wait to do more. This was awesome
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Chris Pennie was the original drummer and is nothing short of incredible. Really should check him out!
Mr rooney , you have to forgive us all for referencing chris pennie so much . Its hard to explain , but , for some of us , he was our drumming idol growing up . We had never been exposed to a kick snare ostinato with ,um... repeating and alternating patterns ( I don't know enough about music lingo to convey that further ) with jazz ," world music " and the fury of a certain two vocalists and an Adam Sandler lookalike on guitar .
We're Chris Pennie dorks and we miss him dearly .
@@michaelvieregge2257 It's hard to explain how much Chris blew people's minds in the early 2000's, people would talk about him in mythical terms. It grew when you heard other great drummers talk about him like they were scared of him lol.
@@theblackestvoid it was that ostinato he would do to the guitars tritones in effing confusing meters. No one had ever heard anything like that before . And outside of rhymer(and that one fella Gilly Sharone) learning dillinger songs, I've never anyone else besides Brendan morgan do a quick way less complicated version in a Misery Signals song.( love Brendan's drumming also )
One of my all time favorite Dillinger cuts. Honestly, they were one of those rare bands that just got better with age.
Gil and Chris are both amazing as well. They all brought something else to the band.
True, they are a wonderful thrilogy of drummers.
One band that I keep kicking myself for not seeing live. Hopefully they have a reunion tour soon
The bass is going bonkers
My favorite tune by maybe my favorite band! Just keeps pulling the rug out from under till you beg for mercy
Billy ! and and Dillinger are amazing, first time I saw them on live, my band mates and I were like, wft is this? amazing such an inspiration during all my life
Yes man, so true!!
Holy shit, I had missed this reaction completely! Well, it was weird listening to DEP without vocals, they really add to the chaos (in a good way). Hope you do more DEP in the future though there doesn't seem to be much available.
Simply Amazing
Yes Andy!
Time for a Sean Rienert video Andy. He passed away earlier this year but one very influential drummer.
Sounds good Jason!
Yes! Thanks for getting to my pick! I'm stoked !
You bet!
I love Billy Rymer and I LOVE drums 🖤
It is just so amazing to see him play such a complex and incredible song with a straight face like this. Also love the fact that he has fairly small kit considering the music he is playing, it shows a great control of his dynamic and a lot of creativity on top of his incredible technic and energy.
I know you take more Patreon request, and it is fair, butjJust in case: there is one very overlooked drummer that you could react to:
Florent Marcadet - Treasure This Pain could be a good song to react to.
The Bass drum and Bass are just superglued together.
Outstanding
Yup! Well said
Please check out Sebastian Lanser’s playthrough of Diluvium. Technique master
Thanks Nick!!!
Mathcore! This is my favorite album of theirs.
NICE! I need to get back to some more Billy Rymer!
I have to agree that understanding a second instrument is of the upmost importance for a drummer. It wasn’t until I mastered the tuba that I was truly able to integrate my drumming into a heavy metal format.
I saw him do a drum off against Blake Richardson at a show that Dillinger played with BTBAM. It was at the end of the night after the last song of the last set. It was like an encore situation. And my god... It was like a religious experience.
It's always funny having the uninitiated experienced musician hearing Dillinger. They almost always say "I can't even begin to describe this."
Rymer is very good, and he does things a little differently than Chris Penne did. But Penne and Weinman developed the sound that is Dillinger Esc Plan, and Penne definitely leaned into jazz roots more.
Both of them play on a somewhat minimal kit though, and make a lot of drummers look silly with their elaborate kits.
Watching you listen to the opening of the song, i could just see on your face how immersed in it you were. Made me laugh when you paused to admit that lmao
Andrew , I'm glad you enjoyed it, and finally got to check this out. The execution of his accents and assault of time changing ostinato sections are the heart of the way Dillinger writes their music. I recommend starting with their most recent release and working backwards, because they are a very hard band to explain but the music is very ... erm...harsh mixture of jazz and .....grindcore/hardcore/mathcore...ish? Nobody else sounds like them really. As a whole they are an extremely talented group of musicians. Billy was not always with them, another linear drummer with a similar style named Chris Pennie was their original drummer. The dynamics this dude gets out of a china cymbal......
It was pretty intense as a first time listen. So much going on. I can see why Dillinger have such a committed following.
These guys are amazing. They are all so talented... Firstly it's really hard to listen to their music as it is really fast and chaotic, time signatures are changing every 5 seconds, it's like a really fast paced and agressive jazz but that's the price you pay for getting into one of the most technically perfect bands in the world right now.
Like @Slimefudge I've been lucky enough to see these guys twice. Can safely say the musicianship on stage is bang on like it is here. Amazing.
I really hope Billy makes more music with his other band ThoughtCrimes in the future.
DIllinger and Botch were the two biggest shocks to me in drumming and opened my eyes to so much more music...
Check out the band he's with now: End.
@@mrsilence666 End is great, and Billy is solid for sure in it, but I feel like he shines the most in the others.
If you're into some chaotic and technical drumming check out Paul Seidel's drum playthrough for "War From A Harlots Mouth - To The Villains"
Do the first song on the video next! Billy is a madman. Dillinger is my favorite band of all time. Thanks for the vid!
No sweat Mack!
It’s funny how people that haven’t managed to decode a band like Dillinger will dismiss them as noise without having any realisation as to just how good they all are as players.
Dudes got a dip in.... fucking awesome
One of my favourite songs of TDSP!
GREAT Humberto!
My twin brother is self taught on drums and after learning drums, he taught himself piano and dear lord that man is a monster. (this video was one of his practice videos when we were younger) Piano definitely helped him with getting all the “in between” sounds and timings down to the point where no one in the music scene here could believe he taught himself
What's he up to now?
Love Dillinger! (As well as Leprous and Ne Obliviscaris). Maybe check out Vlad of Jinjer playing “Under the Dome”?
Better know EVERY instrument you play along with...YES
If you haven't already, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Oceans Ate Alaska. Specifically their drummer's posture.
Great video, never really listened to this band, but the drummer is great
Thanks for that Cameron!
If you’ve never heard Dillinger you’re in for a serious treat. To me they’re the undisputed champs of mathcore, no one does it better or crazier. And their live shows were the most intense thing I’ve ever seen, ever. Just fire and strobes and back flipping off amps, totally unadulterated fucking mayhem. Rymer also plays on a most excellent record called Material Control by Glassjaw.
If You want, Chekc tto , Gil Sharone, (the last drummer of Dillinger Escape Plan Before Billy RYmer), Check Ben Koller of Converge, Thomas Pridgens/David Elitch/Jon THeodore (Mars Volta)
Check Mathcor and mathrock band :)
Nice react! DeP & Rymer are the she it. Thanks for featuring them.
No problem!!
what most people dont undrestand is that this is a jazz band with a metal setup.
4:52 Yes! There _it_ is-the signature joke! 😅👍👏👏👏
Dillinger was an amazing bang, esp when you break down the music. People who don't know music call it noise...that's right when I know they don't know anything about music.
this is actually Jazz music but Metal version
YES!
Haha what a reaction. .. especially TOM RHYTHM OF THE YEAR!! I hope by now you're a fan of billy and The Dillinger Escape Plan. Music at its most unpredictable and visceral stage
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Their original drummer is even more insane. Chris pennie.
🥁🥁🥁👏👏👏 hitting them hard!
Yup it's great isn't it!
Please more Dillinger!!
Drumeo have done some great sessions with metal players. The interview portions are always really Interesting.
The interviews are very revealing!
This whole album is drumming madness. When I first got into DEP.. half the time I didn't actually know what the fuck was going on but that's all part of the fun hahahaha
Rymer has been confirmed to be a robot
I knew it Chris! 👀🦾🦿
Billy is a friggin beast. There is a video of him slaughtering Mike portney. Absolutely crushes him. Honestly, this isn’t even Billy at his most complex. Not even close to his skill level.
Wow, i think the same than you. Billy kills Portnoy, but was sweet compared with the true Billy. I know things so much amazing of Billy Rymer. LOL...Mike Portnoy was killed by Billy using a 43% of his hability.
Billy Rymer is a bad ass, no question! 😎
Pennie,Sharone,and Rymer are all monster drummers! Seems to me like Ben Weinman has a bit to do with how awesome Dillinger was rhythmically. Lucky I got to see them before they split. Killer band!
They are the best
I feel like you should react to George Kollias. I hope some patrons agree. As a non-drummer, George was probably the first drummer I heard that I realized the greatness I was listening to.
Sooooooooo sad they haven’t toured in years. : ( but still hope!!!!
They’re not a band anymore, unfortunately. They had a three show finale in NYC at the end of 2017 and called it quits :(
This deserves a back-up after every other two time signature changes at the very least.
HAHA!
I always thought that if Yes had grown up listening to New York City Hardcore in 1980s Dillinger would have been the outcome. Still sad these guys split up.
Need to check em out!
7:42 reminds so much of “Whiplash” drum solo !
Periphery this is how you do it
Yeah, I would say "stunning". Holy shit, that's impressive.
YES!
The drummer from Converge.
Night Verses-Copper Wasp please👀
one of the best young drummers in the game right now, I'd argue the best
On the way!
Def "not normal". Insane? I'm a need to check some more of these guys out cuz seems there's a lot to learn on each listen.
Hello Andrew. Love your videos. What do you recommend for a bigger drummer? I'm looking to get a electric drum set, seeing as I live in a condo and I don't want my neighbors to kill me, lol.
You should react to some Converge drum video maybe.
You should see Chris Turner, Oceans Ate Alaska.
You need to check out Clown Core - Hell!
Their drummer is ridiculous! (and rumored to be Louis Cole)
Mind blowing to realize that Billy wasn't even the best drummer TDEP had.
Absolutely correct.
Where the H is Chris??? I miss him!
@@michaelvieregge2257 He plays for Coheed and Cambria now...No where near as impressive 😂
@@tyrone7305 He left Coheed a while back actually. Collabed with Greg again tho.
Peak power and speed. He probably burns more calories in one DEP tune than Michael Phelps does in a month of swimming.
HAHA! Yeah John. Billy is GOIN IN!
If you ever revisit DEP I recommend "Weekend Sex Change".
Sounds like a hella weekend!
Good pick, BTW, the album is "One of us is the killer", Nothing Funny is a song..not an album.
Billy is definitely in the top 3 of DEP drummers :)
Top 1 may be :)
I reccomend checking out Chris Pennie as well. He's the original DEP drummer and he's insane.
Did he move on to play in Killswitch Engage?
@@patrickvangelder1784 Coheed and Cambria, but now he's freelance. Worked on Greg Puciato's recent solo project.
is this Jazz Metal ?
It sounds like blast beat thrash prog but with soul and swing , push and pull ..I love it ! I can't normally listen to too much speed metal (I'm so old ) but this has feeling with speed .
👍🏻☮❤
Best description for the music is typically math core, they aim to destroy your ears by playing off time and with crazy patterns, listen to good by to Mona Lisa to get more of a concept of Dillinger If you’re curious
@@baulzzzzzzz2278
Thank you for taking time to feed my curiosity , I really appreciate it .
It's refreshing these days to have a community willing to help and educate .. thanks again peace and love 👍🏻☮❤
How wholesome :) Check out Carbomb - Meta as well. Lots of push and pull there!
check out FRONTIERER from the UK - it's if dillinger and car bomb have a child that is only fed on steroids.! they cause cement to crumble...
@@cainzking thank you will do 👍🏻☮❤
I started with flute, then drums, onto piano, then guitar. Now I'm a one man band if I ever need. :)
The only thing that would make him more entertaining would be if he played open handed. For some reason, I find that more entertaining to watch. Otherwise, he's a brilliant performer and ridiculously precise drummer.
It also took me a couple of years to slowly get into Dillinger - since then they've been one of my all time favorites. Saw them live once and will probably never experience better live band in my life ^^
There's not enough Billy on TH-cam - But there is a playtrough on Tama's FB page m.facebook.com/tamadrums/videos/1870481039632445/
Limerenth Death from Dillinger's last album (with vocals too!)
It's ridiculously chaotic and skillful ^^