As soon as I saw that guy wheeling the bike backwards and having some issues with that, I was sure what the main issue with this bike was. The owner. Love the Moto Guzzi.
I would've checked the valve lash and general appearance/condition of the rockers even before starting it up. I also would've been wearing a helmet to test ride a bike that has the specter of seizing
Oil is so overrated. These moto guzzi engines are pretty rocksolid and have a simple design. BUT there are always people who just ride and do shit on maintenance or even checking the oil which is a basic issue on EVERY motorcycle.
Wow....the bike was treated like crap....left outside, uncovered by the look of it too.....the outside fork seals are rotted, the bike was laid down and the oil was not checked. The oil was not even changed in a long time. There is a proper plastic wrench (so you do not have plier marks on the cap/dipstick) . My 2017 V7 Racer III looks like new and is a very easy bike to take care of. I have never had any issues with Moto Guzzi and any other riders that I have spoken with have not either....so do not blame the bike, it was the rider that left the bike stranded at the side of the road. If you take care of this model it will fetch almost what you paid for it as they are harder to come by and they have a following.
Good, methodical approach. Being a push rod actuated valve system, you do not even have to remove the heads to inspect the pushrods and rocker arms, just remove the valve covers. It may be as simple as adjusting the valves, or replacing the valve adjusters and/or pushrods. And/or it could be a damaged cam or tappets. A
Being pushrod engine, the valves are always somewhat noisy in v7 Guzzis, especially in cold engine. But I think you picked some noise that microphone could not capture.
I just watched this video. I was pleasantly surprised it was very entertaining and even a little educational. Well-done and interesting. Nice to see a friend helping out a less-fortunate friend. I'd like to know whatever happened to the bike. I'm an experienced motorcyclist and just bought a 2023 Moto Guzzi V85 TT Adventure. I love it! Keep up the good work! :-)
*if* the engine actually locked up and it was in gear, then yes, it would lock the rear tire! Talk about a scare! I'm not sure if that actually happened though, the owner's language is a bit vague. Pulling in the clutch would solve the issue quickly, however. Thanks for watching!
Good stuff, you logically evaluated this bike...one more step would have been an oil pressure check to satisfy the engine's state of health. But maybe bikes aren't your friends thing...I mean bikes arentt for everybody...loved this video
That's a good idea, didn't even think of oil pressure! You're right, a lot of guys are just like him: they enjoy riding motorcycles but not everything else that comes along with ownership
lesson one. READ THE BOOK BEFORE USING. And if you can't read ask TH-cam to show how it works and how it's done. I don't blame the guy. He's probably been given everything he ever needed and never had to work out how and why. Hard for him now and heartbreaking for me to watch.
I have a 2021 Moto Guzzi V7. So far it doesn't seem to be using any oil. I had the first service done at 900 miles. I'm at 2500 miles now and the owners manual doesn't recommend a second change until 6k miles! There is no way I'm going that long.
I just bought a Guzzi 850 V7 and I've been carefully looking through the manual. I wanted to find the specs and the info on maintenance but this manual is somewhat difficult to access. It covers many languages and it's somewhat disorganized. You might think looking at the manual that the oil is to be changed every 6000 miles. Simple right? Not so fast. p. 175 Under' Engine oil level check'. Periodically check the engine oil. Note: Carry out maintenance operations at HALF THE INTERVALS SPECIFIED if the vehicle is used in particular rainy or dusty conditions, off road or for track use. So what does this really mean? Do people commonly drive 80 or 90 mph on Interstates in the US? Is it rainy in the North West? A large part of the US is desert or semi desert. Is it dusty? What they didn't add but should have : Will the bike be ridden in high temperatures? This is particularly important for an air cooled machine. Any oil engineer will tell you that high oil temperatures greatly reduce oil life. All of these conditions would be considered severe use and thus require 3000 mile oil changes to get the best service out of the machine. RTFM. 6000 mile oil changes are not optimal. They are the minimum required to maintain the warranty and are based on the premise of ideal riding conditions which we can see does not reflect the real world. As Navy Chief father used to tell me," Oil's cheap, engines aren't."
You are one of the very few US bike guys who ISN’T infected with the dumb ‘Will It Start?’ disease. You did everything correctly. Very refreshing to see. And the way he asked you about your level of experience was a bit rich, especially coming from a demonstrably lazy, loafers wearing dude with a Jesus complex, who cannot be bothered to check his oil!!🙄🤪 If there was a law whereby bike abuse was punishable by having your bike taken away from you, this guy would be charged, found guilty, and sentenced during the first few minutes of this video! 🧐😎😜 Nice work. Ride safe. Peace
@@two-cargarage You’re welcome. Indeed, it’s a disease. The Bikes and Beards guys even ride them home - totally unnecessarily because they have a truck! Ludicrous. But I guess if you’re in the business of sellin’ Jeeezus, they are protected from above…!🐑🐑🐑🙄👀🧐😎😜🙈
Two mistakes you've made. Put a plug in the caps and ground them. Without somewhere for the spark to go it will damage the ignition system. Hold throttle wide open when checking compression. My two cents.
Thanks for the suggestions! I usually do hold the throttle open, I guess I didn't here because it was making so much compression without and I forgot. Also, I've never heard that not completing the spark circuit can damage the system. Sounds like maybe an old-wives-tale.
@@two-cargarage While modern ignition systems have become significantly more robust over the years, they still have to store all that energy that would otherwise be released during the sparks. So grounding the spark plugs is a sensible approach when cranking. On older systems, like on the XV and XS 750s of yours, I would definitely err on the safe side and ground the plugs. With old points system, you risk burning both the points and even the coils if you leave them with the ignition on for longer periods.
What's even more fun is if the engine is ejecting fuel from the open spark plug hole and the spark plug wire arcs to the exhaust pipe igniting the mixture.....externally.....inside your garage. The 8:05 point would be a good time for that to happen. @@two-cargarage
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As soon as I saw that guy wheeling the bike backwards and having some issues with that, I was sure what the main issue with this bike was. The owner. Love the Moto Guzzi.
😂
I would've checked the valve lash and general appearance/condition of the rockers even before starting it up.
I also would've been wearing a helmet to test ride a bike that has the specter of seizing
Oil is so overrated. These moto guzzi engines are pretty rocksolid and have a simple design. BUT there are always people who just ride and do shit on maintenance or even checking the oil which is a basic issue on EVERY motorcycle.
Wow....the bike was treated like crap....left outside, uncovered by the look of it too.....the outside fork seals are rotted, the bike was laid down and the oil was not checked. The oil was not even changed in a long time. There is a proper plastic wrench (so you do not have plier marks on the cap/dipstick) . My 2017 V7 Racer III looks like new and is a very easy bike to take care of. I have never had any issues with Moto Guzzi and any other riders that I have spoken with have not either....so do not blame the bike, it was the rider that left the bike stranded at the side of the road. If you take care of this model it will fetch almost what you paid for it as they are harder to come by and they have a following.
All very true! I'm glad some of the guzzi guys are watching
Good, methodical approach. Being a push rod actuated valve system, you do not even have to remove the heads to inspect the pushrods and rocker arms, just remove the valve covers. It may be as simple as adjusting the valves, or replacing the valve adjusters and/or pushrods. And/or it could be a damaged cam or tappets. A
That's a very nice Guzzi, well worth the top end rebuild and hopefully he will check the oil in the future.
agreed!
Beautiful bike, well worth the repair. Great fundamental learning opportunity “check your oil!” BTW, curious, what was the mileage of this bike?
As a Guzzi owner he badly needs crash bars
Being pushrod engine, the valves are always somewhat noisy in v7 Guzzis, especially in cold engine. But I think you picked some noise that microphone could not capture.
4:51 Clearly there's trouble - if you need a wrench to shift the filler plug / dipstick then the oil level is not getting checked!
You hate to see a bike neglected like this. The V7 is one of the easiest bikes on earth to maintain.
I just watched this video. I was pleasantly surprised it was very entertaining and even a little educational. Well-done and interesting. Nice to see a friend helping out a less-fortunate friend. I'd like to know whatever happened to the bike. I'm an experienced motorcyclist and just bought a 2023 Moto Guzzi V85 TT Adventure. I love it! Keep up the good work! :-)
Love the thorough diagnostics.
Thanks!
Fascinating video ! Does the rear wheel lock if the engine seizes?? That could be dangerous or did it just coast along??
*if* the engine actually locked up and it was in gear, then yes, it would lock the rear tire! Talk about a scare! I'm not sure if that actually happened though, the owner's language is a bit vague. Pulling in the clutch would solve the issue quickly, however.
Thanks for watching!
I had a 750 moto guzzi , did 96,000 klm had zero issues just normal wear and tear .
The classic guzzis have always intrigued me, maybe one day I'll get one for myself
Same here. I owned two. The Lemans was ridden hard and never missed a beat
That poor machine.
Good stuff, you logically evaluated this bike...one more step would have been an oil pressure check to satisfy the engine's state of health. But maybe bikes aren't your friends thing...I mean bikes arentt for everybody...loved this video
That's a good idea, didn't even think of oil pressure!
You're right, a lot of guys are just like him: they enjoy riding motorcycles but not everything else that comes along with ownership
Sounded like a typical guzzi to me.
Moto Guzzi are known for eating oil…. Always check it.
Quite Guzzi's make me worry more. Adjust the valves and give it a ride.
was advised by a real guzzi expert mechanic (of over 40 years experience) "quiet top end means everything's been tightened down too much"
lesson one. READ THE BOOK BEFORE USING. And if you can't read ask TH-cam to show how it works and how it's done. I don't blame the guy. He's probably been given everything he ever needed and never had to work out how and why. Hard for him now and heartbreaking for me to watch.
I have a 2021 Moto Guzzi V7. So far it doesn't seem to be using any oil. I had the first service done at 900 miles. I'm at 2500 miles now and the owners manual doesn't recommend a second change until 6k miles! There is no way I'm going that long.
Yeah, I agree but it also says 6k or twelve months whichever comes first, which is a general guide for all I.C.E.
I just bought a Guzzi 850 V7 and I've been carefully looking through the manual. I wanted to find the specs and the info on maintenance but this manual is somewhat difficult to access. It covers many languages and it's somewhat disorganized. You might think looking at the manual that the oil is to be changed every 6000 miles. Simple right? Not so fast. p. 175 Under' Engine oil level check'. Periodically check the engine oil.
Note: Carry out maintenance operations at HALF THE INTERVALS SPECIFIED if the vehicle is used in particular rainy or dusty conditions, off road or for track use.
So what does this really mean? Do people commonly drive 80 or 90 mph on Interstates in the US? Is it rainy in the North West? A large part of the US is desert or semi desert. Is it dusty? What they didn't add but should have : Will the bike be ridden in high temperatures? This is particularly important for an air cooled machine. Any oil engineer will tell you that high oil temperatures greatly reduce oil life.
All of these conditions would be considered severe use and thus require 3000 mile oil changes to get the best service out of the machine. RTFM.
6000 mile oil changes are not optimal. They are the minimum required to maintain the warranty and are based on the premise of ideal riding conditions which we can see does not reflect the real world. As Navy Chief father used to tell me," Oil's cheap, engines aren't."
Fun to watch!
You are one of the very few US bike guys who ISN’T infected with the dumb ‘Will It Start?’ disease. You did everything correctly. Very refreshing to see.
And the way he asked you about your level of experience was a bit rich, especially coming from a demonstrably lazy, loafers wearing dude with a Jesus complex, who cannot be bothered to check his oil!!🙄🤪
If there was a law whereby bike abuse was punishable by having your bike taken away from you, this guy would be charged, found guilty, and sentenced during the first few minutes of this video! 🧐😎😜
Nice work. Ride safe.
Peace
haha I appreciate the kind words. The "will it start" thing is really a craze right now.
@@two-cargarage You’re welcome. Indeed, it’s a disease. The Bikes and Beards guys even ride them home - totally unnecessarily because they have a truck! Ludicrous. But I guess if you’re in the business of sellin’ Jeeezus, they are protected from above…!🐑🐑🐑🙄👀🧐😎😜🙈
I assume you also changed the oil filter.
Nope! This was just a brief diagnostic, not a maintenance visit
Two mistakes you've made. Put a plug in the caps and ground them. Without somewhere for the spark to go it will damage the ignition system. Hold throttle wide open when checking compression. My two cents.
Thanks for the suggestions! I usually do hold the throttle open, I guess I didn't here because it was making so much compression without and I forgot.
Also, I've never heard that not completing the spark circuit can damage the system. Sounds like maybe an old-wives-tale.
@@two-cargarage While modern ignition systems have become significantly more robust over the years, they still have to store all that energy that would otherwise be released during the sparks. So grounding the spark plugs is a sensible approach when cranking. On older systems, like on the XV and XS 750s of yours, I would definitely err on the safe side and ground the plugs. With old points system, you risk burning both the points and even the coils if you leave them with the ignition on for longer periods.
@@64faffi great info, thanks for sharing the knowledge!
What's even more fun is if the engine is ejecting fuel from the open spark plug hole and the spark plug wire arcs to the exhaust pipe igniting the mixture.....externally.....inside your garage. The 8:05 point would be a good time for that to happen. @@two-cargarage
What year Is the bike? Moto Guzzi made a bad batch of V7 engines in 2016.
That’s sounds like bearings. I would say complete rebuild.
What year and mileage on it?
I think it's a 2012 with 16,000 mi
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Thanks dudely udely!
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