BELEW - VAI - LEVIN - CAREY | The greatest band in the world right now?
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Vai is the Wild-card here. His presence brings intrigue and spice that we wouldn't get if Carey was the only change from that original lineup.
Steve Vai’s presence is somewhat concerning to me actually. He has a tendency to go off the deep end with too much flair, which Belew already has covered. King Krimson needs structure above all else, and that is precisely what Fripp brought. Danny Carey will make anything sound amazing, but also has a tendency to be a little too humble…which could open the door for Vai to walk all over everything. It could be seriously amazing though…I just hope Vai keeps a lid on the fluff and sticks to the material.
@@heliosascending3380 He's capable of being "Disciplined". I'm guessing he will play the material "straight" with just hints of flair, but do his own thing during Fripp solos.
Thela Hun Ginjeet with Steve Vai. It is going to be a party. He has three tailored guitars being built for this project.
Belew has said...."I call Bill Bruford and blurt out 'how would you like to be in a rock band again?' Bill says, 'And do what? Sit around a luggage carousel all day?' But he gave us his blessing."
🎵 Rush! into the lobby life, of hurry up and wait, hurry up and wait…
@@Coolnesski same as it ever was ...
Plus he'd sold all his drums, so what would he play?
...Danny Carey has stumbled into having a few of them, which will be on tour with them.
@@Coolnesski Exactly!
@@bhidtrSw.65qqhwtsloUtDeklbne15 He does - watch the Rick Beato interview.
I knew this would be a great video, and it was even better than expected. King Crimson past and present, philosophy, current events. Well done as always, sir.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Having followed Belew since KC, I agree that this is a very big deal to him. I believe he feels his best work was done with Crimson and has yearned for a return to it. I am very glad he is getting another chance, with Tony there as well. Hopefully this lineup will record new material, as well.
Thank a producer named Scrote for bringing this band together.
So interesting - almost surreal, actually - that King Crimson started out as an idiosyncratic British band that was the farthest thing from a US band at the time, and now it's 4 American guys.
Without missing a Beat.
Arguably your finest moment on You Tube, Andy.
First time listener... WTF? This guy is simply one of the best guys to listen to stoned...
😅He's smart & insightful enough straight.
Just saw Levin with Peter Gabriel......awesome show...and Levin rocked it out of the park!
Came for Crimson, stayed for the significance in art. Really appreciate how you perceive the triad truth within it and call us to consider it for ourselves. Great work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was fortunate enough to see The Bears in 1987 at a small venue in Missouri. Stood 10 feet from Adrian the entire show, truly a life changing concert.
I got to open for them in Vancouver. Chatted with Adrian for a bit, he was a really nice guy. Really enjoyed the show.
I saw The Bears in Michigan that year. Cool show.
The Bears were truly awesome
That show is on TH-cam (just found it)! Can't wait!
I know folks who HATE the 80's incarnation of KC. I LOVE the 80's incarnation of KC and was lucky to see them live after the release of Three of a Perfect Pair. Your analysis is spot on!
KC's 80's output album wise is kinda weak except Discipline, but their live performances are the best in their entire career
My first KC concert was also the ToaPP tour. I was a junior in high school.
Who are Those folk´s - i know not of ONE player , who doesnt like these three albums - and ive been in music for 40 + years ,- (bassplayer)
@@МуродТанжихолов and you play which instruments ???
@@MikkelGrumBovin I know a couple Crimson fans who disavow (for lack of a better term) this lineup/era. I love this group and was lucky to see them live. To each his own.
My wife bought us meet and greet vip 4th row tickets for the venue near our city… can’t wait!
I got those toooooo! Can’t wait!
3rd row in Charlotte!
She's a keeper for dure😊
So... it's the mid 80s and I'm in college and living in a co-op type of place and I buy (I have no recollection why) the album Discipline on CD. I'm transfixed, floored. I must have listened to it a hundred times before I came up for air. Then one afternoon a guy in the co-op said, "Ah, I think I have some music that you might like." So, I and another roommate go to this guy's room and he slides a box or two out of his closet and they are filled with vinyl of all this prog/fusion etc. stuff from the 1970s. By about 3 in the morning we had listened to Mahavishnu Orchestra, Jean-Luc Ponty, Bill Bruford, King Crimson, UK, Brand X, Genesis, etc., etc. That was my introduction to this amazing world. And I remembered flipping the albums over and seeing who's playing what, then finding connections with other bands. I'll never forget that evening/night. Unfortunately, at least for now, the tour of this "super group" is not coming near where I live. Alas.
I remember an article talking about The Who's unusual longevity in 1974. The fact that so much music and it's creators are in action 40-50 YEARS on, is miraculous and should be savored.
... A-w eyed A-way key
A-m awe sum A-gain ...
The influence of Reich on these albums is HUGE. Fripp and Belew actually met at a Steve Reich concert.
I totally agree. Minimalism, or music as a gradual process was the Reich influence and so-called Frippertronics was directly influenced by Terry Riley’s ‘A Rainbow in Curved Air’ ie tape loops on two Revox machines.
@@ajpegg2932 Teddy Riley's influence makes a lot of sense now that I think about it.
@@ericmckayrq Willy Reich was crazy, man.
The element of the three albums of this time is that of the process musics of modern classical composers like Steve Reich and Phillip glass with much repetition and phasing of riffs in different time signatures. As a music student at this time me and my colleagues found Crimson our champions of the aesthetic in the pop world.
We’ve all seen the Beato interview with them
More love for Fripp in that one interview than in all of Beato's other posts combined!
including from Beato! ...which surprised me given how rarely (or maybe never) he's mentioned Fripp or Crimson. Don't get me wrong, I like Beato a lot and he's earned money, likes, views and respect from me, but KC and Fripp seemed to be on his no-fly list. Prime example: it really irritated me that his Top 20 two-guitar bands "countdown" video included ZERO mention of KC; FFS, Belew was in the band with RF for 30+ years, how did they not make the cut?? But... he did host this 4-way interview and let them chatter for an hour, so better late than never. 🎸
@@alansmall9830 Yeah, Beato seemed a bit afraid of that English man. But now, as they are all American, he feels more at home.
Don't forget Thrak also had Bruford returning.
Thrak might be the weirdest CD I have. I always thought that was kind of the start of "Industrial" rock. At least in my sheltered view.
@@normwetherbee3403 My friend got us Thrak on a sale as our first introduction to KC in '97 I think it was, and we hated it. It was industrial pop, at least we thought. Then we had the chance to catch up slowly over time with the rest of the discog shortly after that from the early albums, I think it was Larks that changed our minds. Then we were able to fall in love with Thrak with fresh ears.
Thrak is so massive and won’t be fully appreciated in our lifetimes.
The only 'double trio' album. It's friggin great and Dinosaur could still be a hit song!!
I love all these guys.
But personally I like Belew most of all.
He’s just so damn entertaining.
I agree, and I really appreciate Adrian Belew's contributions to the works of Laurie Anderson. "quirky weirdness" indeed.
@@arvidsson56 And Talking Heads, way back in the day. Part of their best band lineup.
In person, Belew radiates pure innocence and energy. It's contagious, irrepressible. The love and enthusiasm he has for music sprouts out of him like water out of a fountain. I can assure you he'll always be the same age - 16, and I mean that in the best way possible.
Few in music have as much class as Tony, not to mention his chops.
One of my favourite modern bands, District 97, built on both the Wetton and Belew eras. I here so much of the 80s Crimson in modern bands, even the more extreme parts of Three of a Perfect Pair seem fair game in modern prog.
I saw Belew a few years ago when he was playing with a young brother/sister rhythm system (both quite good.) Belew not only played splendidly but showed an almost fatherly affection for the younger musicians. A wonderful performance.
Julie Slick and her brother, I have played with Julie too
Saw that show in Atlanta, it was excellent.
Belews recent album Pop Sided is a progressive pop masterpiece
Anniversary tour, hell. I want to hear these guys make an album.
Very interesting views on this collaboration. These are excellent albums, and when this tour arrives here, I'll be there. Appreciate your insights.
Great video Andy, really hope they play here in the UK too and not just London like so many US bands do! After seeing the Rhino and Twang Bar LPs behind you maybe you will consider doing a vid on Adrian's solo stuff? So much amazing and varied music to look at!
Wow. This video is a tremendous overview of King Crimson, the evolution of rhythmic pattern, modern musical theory, et al. Just a must-view...and listen.
My 10 year old and I saw them in NY this month. Amazing show. Such respect for the spirit of KC while still making it their own. Such a great experience. I’d recommend it to all KC fans.
You are one of my new top 10 channels to watch. I am a music lover. Plus you have a pulse on where we are in this journey moving forward. Be nice soon to have a pure honest conversation of what has really really gone on the past few decades or more depending on the research some have done. It is nice to have an hour of your take on what I still love. Music. Sometimes I need a break and relax. You are doing fine work. Thank you Andy
Yes, it doesn't even matter if they record or play anything together, the very concept is enough!
I'm *really* excited about this tour. I got VIP (but not meet & greet) tickets for the Ryman. I haven't watched this video yet but am excited to do that too!
I’m so glad your channel entered my feed today, such a breath of creative fresh air and sophisticated energy - your commentary at the tail end of vid nailed it! Too stuff
Great job! I hope to see them in Toronto Oct 18th @ my fave venue.........Massey Hall!!!!!!!!!!!!...Thanx for this!!!!!!
I particularly love that period of King Crimson. I tagged it King Crimson's "romantic" period, and Adrian Belew loved that term.
I'm incredibly impressed and grateful for how you brought the relevance of King Crimson, the Discipline-era, and philosophy and art into some clarity against the backdrop of the world today. You've made some amazing connections here! Thanks.
I have tickets in row 4. I'm in music nerd heaven. This is my favorite phase of the band. Great interview by Beato, you all need to watch it.
That was very interesting. I listened to Discipline for the first time a few weeks ago after watching an old interview with Robert Fripp on YT, where he talked about making the album. It was fascinating, although I didn't understand all of it.
Then I saw the Rick Beato interview, and now this. I'm forty years late to the party, but I got there in the end, thankfully.
Regarding the coming election in America, you seemed to suggest that Biden represented order, and Trump represented chaos. May I respectfully suggest that the opposite is true. Trump was the first president in living memory not to start a war. While he was in office, America's enemies didn't invade other countries. North Korea, which Obama said was the USA's biggest problem, was kept quiet with a few words and some excellent diplomacy. Trump managed to persuade the North and South Korean leaders to meet and shake hands for the first time. In the Middle East, Trump negotiated peace treaties between Israel and several of its neighbours. He was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for that, but it was not widely reported in the left wing media (i.e., 95% of the media). Under Trump, America became a net exporter of energy. Petrol prices were the lowest for a long time, which encouraged growth in the economy. Unemployment was the lowest ever recorded for ethnic minorities. Trump built a large part of the wall to deter illegal immigration and make the people safer.
When Biden became President, he immediately opened the Southern border, allowing millions of people from around the world into the USA. This was during the cov 19 pandemic, when most of the populace was locked up. Crime has risen hugely as a result.
On day one, Biden cancelled the oil pipeline from Canada that would have supplied 900,000 barrels a day of oil, immediately pushing up the price of fuel, distribution, and everything that has to be distributed. Inflation in the USA is almost all down to Biden.
Biden ordered US forces to leave Afghanistan, leaving behind billions of dollars worth of military equipment, thirteen dead soldiers, and hundreds of American civilians. When the dead soldiers bodies were returned to America, he, as president, was required to be on the runway of the airport as they were brought off the plane. It was a solemn occasion marred by the fact that he kept looking at his watch every few minutes.
Under Biden, Russia invaded Ukraine. That would never have happened under Trump. Under Biden, Hamas massacred 1200 or more Israelis without warning after a long period of relative peace. Maybe that would have happened anyway, even with Trump in charge. Religious extremists are unpredictable. North Korea has gone back to being belligerent and testing nuclear weapons. China looks more and more likely to invade Taiwan.
Trump has been accused of many things, all of them fake. The current ones were intended to stop him from running for President. They had no other purpose. Biden, on the other hand, is guilty of many crimes. He, his son and his brother have been taking money from foreign companies and regimes for decades. Joe was recently found to have wilfully taken and kept classified documents from his time as a senator and vice-president. That is, he was definitely guilty of a serious crime. However, Robert Hur, the man in charge of the investigation, found that it would not be worth prosecuting him since a jury would see him as a forgetful old man who probably had good intentions. Not everyone is equal under the law.
Only said that to get the lefties off my back....
tellin' it like it is!! many thumbs up!
Love the analysis of the three albums. Fripp is very much into GI Gurdjieff and 4th Way, so that deserves deeper discussion. I studied that as well. As to the rest of it regarding the super-elites, the generalizations surrounding all that are part of the problem. As to the pandemic, it was less about staying home, and mainly about not gathering in large crowds where a possible airborne virus could easily be spread. In any regard, I look forward to seeing Beat in Chicago in November. I live in Nashville and have met Adrian here, and saw King Crimson with Fripp, Belew, Levin and Bruford in the early 80s. One of the most phenomenal live performances ever.
Thank you Andy, great video. These are the first albums I heard from King Crimson, that made me go down the rabbit hole of older KC and other groups. If any of the Band members are reading this, thank you for opening my musical journey.
Man, i've been watching your video for 20 minutes and i have to say at this point: what a great, clearly explained video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Will Vai be sitting down? No one has asked him that yet. It’s so interesting, because Vai is technically capable, but I’ve also always viewed him as the antithesis of Fripp’s restraint. Vai likes to be unchained and emotive. But like Fripp, he is also disciplined too. And from his early Zappa days he clearly knows how defer to music that is not his own. Something that hasn’t been mentioned is that Fripp played live with Vai and Satriani. Maybe Fripp likes the choice of Steve Vai.
He does like the choice of Vai. They met a few days ago when Fripp was in LA and Fripp has said Vai is the right man. I sort of expect Vai to get the Fripp parts that are very Fripp correct and then add his own thing with what him and Adrian concoct on their own. Probably could throw Tony in there too. Honestly I think they all will try their best to be an original band while paying respect to the music. Not an easy thing and I’m not sure how it will be, but I have tickets and will be there, God willing.
Vai recently said that he would be standing - that's how he plays - but essentially that he would be largely out of Belew's spotlight.
Bought Discipline in 1983 based solely on Bruford's work with Yes and Levin's with Peter Gabriel. Hadn't really listened to any Crimson before this, save for hearing Court of the Crimson King sporadically on classic rock stations.
Well, upon hearing this masterpiece, my mind was expanded to the point where my head almost exploded. I literally wore the grooves down from listening to this basically nonstop for the following six months, trying to figure out Belew and Fripp's guitar parts ( yeah, I know, rather futile attempt, but I had to try.) Discipline is still in my top ten all time favorite albums, and that bar is pretty freakin' high.
Great background and summary of this era of King Crimson and BEAT. Cheers.
I am so excited and cannot wait for the Charlotte show. I have a FRONT-ROW seat right in the middle of the row! Plus VIP Meet & Greet!
That was one of the most fascinating dissertations on an oeuvre I have ever witnessed. Thank you.
I bought 'Discipline' years ago and found it confounding, having loved the 'Night Watch' / 'Starless and Bible Black' period before it. I have just listened to the two opening tracks of 'Beat' and immediately loved them. So, back to 'Discipline,' I suppose, with guaranteed light further up the tunnel.
The latest Crim did explore the period between ITCOTCK and the Wetton-Bruford-Fripp-Cross era. But it also regularly performed Epitaph, Schizoid Man, In the Court, Larks I, Larks II, Larks IV, Larks V, Talking Drum, Breathless, Red, Starless, Fallen Angel, Red Nightmare... and so forth. It went everywhere!
'twas very light on the 80's trilogy this band is going after, tho. i see this as a wonderful way to fill the red, blue and yellow void
@@callmeal3017 I agree completely.
Interesting perspective and points of view, thank you.
I saw Vai earlier this week and he had a ton of energy.
I saw Adrian Belew in the now defunct and somewhat infamous El Macombo club in Toronto, circa 1982. Best gig that I've ever experienced in a bar. Outrageously good time.
Thank you SO much Andy - really great and interesting
My pleasure!
So glad you are doing this vid. Just scored tickets to see them in September!
Would you reconsider ranking Fripp as number two to number one prog guitarist? I love Steve Howe's guitar playing, but Fripp's contributions to prog (in my opinion, of course) have much more depth and impact. The Court, Lark's, and Discipline incarnations of Crimson were born out of Fripp's conceptions and visions of what music can be: these are radically different bands (!), yet are all held together by Fripp's radical ideas. Considering his contributions to music, including new standard tuning, Frippertronics, ability to play in almost any genre of music effectively, and so forth, Fripp is a true genius and a monumental prog guitarist, composer, and group leader. Would Howe inspire your diatribes, discussions, debates declamations, expressions, exclamations, conversations, criticisms, commentary, and so forth at the end of this video to the same level as Fripp has? :)
Thank you so much for your interesting videos and discussion, Andy! I always learn something from them!
Brian Eno was a HUGE influence. (on Fripp). Well done/said/explained. thanks Andy!
My pleasure!
Bill is.my favorite, I play drums,51 years this far.youre nailing bill , and time shifting etc . Learning Yhela Jun Ginjeet with my band soon , freak out the Crowds Hopefully, Great video, very informative for those who don't know this Band , the only of its Kind.Cheers
A few typing mistakes,oh well
Still readable, cheers!
Love learning the technical drum info. One spends a lifetime listening to certain music, without really knowing WHY it sounds the way it does. The importance of Hi-hats, for example. Great stuff !
A very interesting assessment of a fascinating period in the King Crimson output. It will be fascinating to hear how this quartet will interpret these albums and how much improvisation will play a part as it did when they toured these albums .
Friggin Awesome Reviews! Can’t wait for the Vegas show 😊
I came into Crimson in`84 with Three of a Perfect Pair. I was 13, the video of Sleepless was on Much Music ( here in Canada ) and they were playing in Toronto soon. I was young and going to Toronto from my hometown would be a difficult endeavor. But I was so taken by this music that all I could think about was seeing KC live. Of coarse, I never went and have never been able to shake that disappointment. Until perhaps now! I`ll be at Massey Hall in Toronto on October 18th 2024 to see some of my favorite music ever recorded. And maybe, just maybe, I`ll be able to put my love of seeing this era of Crimson to bed. Great episode Andy. ( Bozzio would have been my choice but Carey brings the youth, Ha Ha )
I watched that documentary you mentioned. Thanks! I knew my old friend Biff was Fripp's guitar tech, but I didn't appreciate what an exacting gig that must have been. Good job, Biff!
Got my tickets today. Saw them on the Discipline tour way back when. I remember them playing the whole Discipline album, a revamped Larks 2 and some of the yet untitled instrumental tracks from the yet to be released Beat-which is my favorite.
God damn Ticket Master. The presales, at the Beacon in NYC, made it impossible for the average person to get good seats. We finally got through with noise bleed seats in the upper balcony. At least we'll get in the building. This will be the show of the year, I'm so stoked anyway...
Btw. Yesterday I saw a current video on yt where Vai gave a liitle insight into his preparations for the Beat tour. Very worth seeing.
Vai has developed into a great elder statesman.
"It's the same lineup as AC/DC..." I'd never thought of it like that. That's absolutely crazy to think about. Really good analysis in this video.
Well done. Cheers!
Thanks BEATtourofficial!!!
Hi Andy, many thanks for this episode. I have been following you for a short while and had to comment. Ilove this incarnation of Crimson and appreciated your philosophical dive into their not so obvious Gurdjeffian backstory. Its opened up my love of Discipline and am itching to get Beat and Threee of a Perfect Pair. Have listened to the full hour and am tempted to do it again. Your best episode. Many thanks!
Going to see them in October 5 at the Beacon Theater in NYC 💯🎶❤️😎🔥
I saw the @rickbeato interview with BEAT....After I finished the video, I got on line and ordered my ticket! I will be seeing BEAT in September on the 13th, At the Blue Note Jazz Club in Napa, California. So excited for this show!!!
Brilliant video! Great way to start the day and a bit to think about too....
I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm voting yes! I just bought tickets for Toronto. Belew! Vai! Tony! Carey! (don't know much about him)... what's not to love? And, even with the complexity of the music, there's still a simple beauty there, and you can groove to it.
Play Undertow by Tool. That will let you know just how good he is.
@@geographyinaction7814 I've listened to some Tool, but the distorted guitars always sounded the same to me. I'll try that song.
Or Pneuma!
Bought my tickets this morning, 6 row center. Can't wait for September 28th
Certainly there can be no other bands boasting the pedigree of this one. Stellar!!
Just found this channel because I like King Crimson. I like what you have to say and your insights on music, and life I am now a subscriber.
I don't believe opposites (liberal/conservative, old/young, order/chaos) can ever come together to solve anything. I think that is utopian. Duality is a fundamental characteristic of human beings. I do believe that a few people have (or develop) the ability to transcend that duality, but they are a tiny minority. That has been my goal for a long, LONG, time, but I have not yet been able to even approach that state of being. And I'm 65 years old ... I don't have that much more time! Unfortunately climate change is the next great equalizer in my view, and I'm extremely skeptical that we have the ability to avoid the cataclysm on the horizon. As George Carlin said: "Pack your shit, folks. We're going away." I do feel bad for young people, who will not have the chance to live out their lives and bring their light to the world. But in the end it doesn't really make any difference ... the universe couldn't care less.
My last days,am a crimson fan,my first crimson experience.1981! Discipline.I have to in my mind & heart have learned all of it! Fripp has done that! Made me think.i found all of you.
I like many others are super excited about the formation of this band with these four exceptional people. However, as for them possibly being the greatest band in the world remains to be seen, as we have not heard a note played yet - have we? Incidentally, I love KC and the three albums featured. I sincerely hope they come to the UK.
I saw KC at the Albert Hall in 2019. Awesome. However, they had a terrible experience in America with promoters seemingly indifferent to Covid. They would have been wiped out financially if anyone in the band had caught Covid. I think they realised that it was time to quit after a seven year run of stunning live shows. Check out their last live album Music is Our Friend. They are playing as if their lives depended on it.
i should say the covid nazis did the lion's share of the economic mayhem in every sector save pharmaceuticals and armament manufacturers. hopefully none of them took the jab. too bad about Clapton...
Thank you Andy for this masterclass in musicology for 80s King Crimson. Your context is GOLD. Steve Reich's Clapping Music is certainly an influence on this lineup's works!
What a fantastic video have a wonderful weekend Andy ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊
Same to you
I saw the BEAT tour/ Show in Atlanta 9/24/ 24 great show/👍🏼👍🏼💪💪🏋️♂️🏋️♂️ once in a lifetime musical experience
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I just passed on getting tickets for this. My wife would not be overwhelmed and the good tickets were scooped up (probably for re-sale. I saw the Thrak tour in 1995, so I am happy to have seen that.
I also passed. I’ve seen them many times since Larks through the 80’s as well as their various other projects THeads, Asia, UK, Bowie et al to last a lifetime. Many times in dive bars with as few people as 50-100 and no proper stage. Nitro in Redford MI comes to mind. No stage and very few people in attendance and 10-12’ from their corner spot on floor. Pretty amazing. Besides, nowadays it’s difficult to go to a show that people came to be quiet and listen. Someone always has to be shouting or howling while they’re playing.
A couple of random comments: Will Steve Vai play sitting down? KC brought in electronic drums very early, in early '72, Ian Wallace used some electronic percussion during the tour for "Islands", I saw this when they played in Jacksonville, Florida.
It could be seen as disrespectful of the RF legacy if he stands. I think he'll need the energy for picking.
Saw a recent video with Vai. Said he would be standing - that's the way he plays - but that Adrian very definititely would be lead.
Excellent commentary!
This is the first time I'm almost 20 years I bought tickets to a show. It will be them (in Anaheim)
Got 7th row center tickets in a smaller theater. Totally psyched, probably best lineup in a long time. For this 59 year old this is important.👍
Seeing them in 2 hours tonight!!! (First stop on their tour, in San Jose)
Saw KC on the Three Of A Perfect Pair Tour, The Crimson ProjeKCt (with both Belew and Levin), and Tony Levin's Stick Men (who focused on KC tunes, such as Level Five). I also saw Belew on Talking Heads' Remain In Light Tour, and have seen Levin three times with Peter Gabriel (including his joint tour with Sting).
Beautiful video! Growing up, KC was my first experience of augenblick
Augenblick means moment in German.
@@svenjansen2134 I was thinking of Heidegger's employment of Augenblick as "moment of vision"
The Denver gig has sold out, 1800 seats
Probably your most important long video, so much good stuff here, although I am older than you, we were certainly born in the right part of history, although closure is difficult to bear in our music, we are all staring at our own closure, keep up the good work 🥰
Fripp was always, shall we say, eccentric.
To say the least!
The break in Sartori is sublime.
Wow Andy, halfway thru, champion breakdown
Another excellent analysis. Very engaging with so many little facts and side-tracks, layered in with that encyclopedic history brain of yours! Bravo!
I would only add that perhaps the importance of "kraut rock," and bands like Neu, Can, Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream has been overlooked? One key concern of theirs was the subsuming of the individual to create a greater, collective whole (so no solos). That was an interesting exploration of concepts similar to, or drawn from, the Minimalists working at the same time. It also ties into the a very German expression of the Sublime - being overwhelmed and powerless in the face of Nature (like the painter Caspar David Friedrich). And that then works in opposition to the SuperMan that might conquer nature.
Just a thought.
Thanks again for the insights and humor.
just love hearing Andy talk about music
Andy's philosophy is cool too!
I'd love to see these guys and jumped at the opportunity to buy a ticket. Unfortunately the tickets start at $200. I can't do that....concerts are so expensive now, I'm in Canada.
I don't want to change the subject because these guys are so revered and I honor each and every one of them but I did want to mentioning my newest frog band that I'm infatuated with it's called Sleep token if you get a chance to listen to the song called the summoning I would like you to hear them meanwhile I hope they get close enough to my part of Florida where I may be able to have a chance to see them live this group is certainly filled with my heroes
Your so good at this .....EXCELLENT talk !
Great ,complete and smart analysis , thank you
Great analysis! Good points
Mike Keneally could have been in Vai's position. After all, he's played with Zappa, Satriani, Vai himself, and opened for KC's last tour in the Zappa Band, not to mention informal soloing over some live Fripp soundscapes in the late 90s.
Which begs the question, will Steve Vai sit whilst he plays?
In the shadows?
Thanks for all the great videos.. cheeers.
I think it’s interesting that Belew and Levin-the new guys in the band back in 1981-are now the carryover members. It’s a great lineup for sure-with two Zappa alumni!
However, I think you misspoke about the recent KC touring band-they did in fact play a wide range of Crimson material, including the Wetton era, “Indiscipline” and “Level Five”.
'twas very light on the 80's trilogy this band is going after, tho. i see this as a wonderful way to fill the red, blue and yellow void