King Crimson : Artists Who Changed Music - Part 2
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Which other artists do YOU think changed music? Please let me know below! Check out Part 1 here:- th-cam.com/video/VqSAPi-sIaw/w-d-xo.html
Have you done CAN yet?
Thank you for this 🙏 I’ve been in your replies harping on about king crimson for a while! 😮
Let me please add a plus one on Can, also Neu! (Maybe a krautrock special?)
How about any of these?
Bad Brains
Primus
Chicago (Terry Kath era)
Allman Brothers Band
Motorhead
Nine Inch Nails
The Mahavishnu Orchestra
Miles Davis (especially early 70s fusion era)
Herbie Hancock
Django Reinhardt
JEFF BECK. From psych, raga and garage with the Yardbirds, to heavy rock with his May 1966 'Beck's Bolero' session, to heavy blues with his reworking of 'Shapes of Things' on his 'Truth' album, to jazz(y) rock (minus horns) on 'Rough and Ready', to rock-funk and rock-fusion on 'Blow by Blow' and 'Wired', Mr. Beck has never ceased to surprise and delight by challenging the status quo. Billy F Gibbons often recounts how Hendrix was enamoured by Jeff's playing.
THE YARDBIRDS. From decent white boy blues band to innovators that kept the Beatles on their toes. Paul McCartney's guitar solo on 'Taxman' has an uncanny resemblance to what Jeff Beck (today a good friend of McCartney's) was doing. And thanks to the aforementioned 'Beck's Bolero' session featuring Beck and Jimmy Page, the Yardbirds evolved into the template for Led Zeppelin. Plus, nobody plays guitar like Jeff.
JOHN MAYALL'S BLUESBREAKERS not only put British blues on the map, but inspired so many players and bands that followed, from Gary Moore to Aerosmith and ZZ Top, to Camel (via Andrew Latimer's love of the Bluesbreakers) to just about every guitarist since then, including John Mayer, Joe Bonamassa, Snowy White, Duane Allman and Dickie Betts, Derek Trucks etc. The Bluesbreakers not only included Eric Clapton, Peter Green and Mick Taylor, but many other major names including John McVie, Mick Fleetwood, Aynsley Dunbar, Keff Hartley, Dick Heckstall-Smith, Jon Hiseman....
VANILLA FUDGE. Often overlooked in the discussion about who created heavy rock and prog rock, in 1967 these New Yorkers were deep into both. When they played in London they were the talk of the scene, with Ritchie Blackmore and what became Deep Purple stating that their mission was to be the 'European Vanilla Fudge'. The Beatles may have triggered the progressive concept via the likes of 'Strawberry Fields' and 'Tomorrow Never Knows', but on their '67 debut album the Fudge laid the groundwork for the grander concept that was followed by the Nice, King Crimson, Yes etc.
CHICAGO. Their debut album did for jazz rock what 'Are You Experience' did for psych rock. In fact, Hendrix was so impressed upon seeing them play the Whiskey on Sunset Strip that he enlisted them as support for his tour. And he used Chicago guitarist Terry Kath's 'Free Form Guitar' concept for his own 'Star Spangled Banner'. Al Kooper was also impressed at those Whiskey dates, so much so that he immediately flew back to New York and assembled Blood Sweat & Tears. Jon Hiseman may have credibly argued that his band, Colosseum, was the first jazz-rock band, but it was Chicago that confirmed it as a genre.
Faith No More and Killing Joke
This is hands down the best documentary I’ve seen about King Crimson on TH-cam
Thanks ever so much
Agreement.
I would have killed for this documentary when I was a kid.
@@proto-geek248aw shucks! Thanks ever so much
@@Producelikeapro Don't mention it!
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with out a doubt
"Art is where you wish to go, craft is how you get there." - Robert Fripp
Amazing quote
I purchased his book, there's a whole chapter that I consider to be an essay/philosophical expansion on this quote. After reading a few pages in general, I get a headache, wrapped up in thought, and return to reread the previous paragraph.
This does not disappointment.
@@InsaneCarville that's amazing! Such a great book!
@@InsaneCarville What is the full title of this book? I can't seem to find it. 🤔
@@w-hisky The Guitar Circle - Robert Fripp
I think 1990s era King Crimson (especially the "Thrak" album) is underrated, and thus underappreciated by many. It was a great return for the band.
Even more original version, if that's even possible.
King Crimson in the '90s was frickin' awesome! I had drifted away from the band for a while, but Thrak pulled me back in like the gravity of a black hole. I don't know any KC fan who wasn't blown away by their output at that time, so I don't know if I would call it "underrated". But then again, I don't know that many King Crimson fans. Most of my normie friends think of Crimson as dissonant noise.
I doubt that Thrak is underrated. Almost any fan appreciates it a lot. There's a even a Reddit thread exclusively devoted to Thrak where people have shared so much love that it could melt Polar ice caps. Probably it's even related, huh.
Brilliant album!!!
Every time I listen to Thrak....if I make it all the way through....I feel like I've been punched out! That's not a criticism, just a reality.
Love the portion where Belew deconstructs the Frame by Frame sound in such an unassuming way. Could listen to musicians explain their craft Like this all day.
He doesn't play Fripp's part alone, so it still seems complicated, when it's really a simple tune. It's two bars, A and B, Belew plays AA and Fripp plays AB and B is the same as A but dropping one note towards the end. So Fripp's pattern is one beat shorter and he gets progressively out of phase with Belew until they meet again, IIRC after seven of Belew's AA's. If you hear Fripp's part in isolation it's quite obvious. And it's a brilliantly simple idea; the genius is to make it musically valid. You can try various melodies with a looper in a reducing pattern as described above, and 99% of the time you get cacophony.
One of the most creative and influential bands ever. I'm a huge fan, especially of all the Bruford years.
Agreed 100%! Thanks ever so much
In 43 years and having sang in a prog metal band and being a massive prog fan, for some reason, just last week, I had the urge to listen to King Crimson FOR THE FIRST TIME. (I think I matured enough to actually appreciate the original prog rock). and went straight into listening to "In The Court Of The Crimson King", "Discipline" and "Three Of A Perfect Pair", back to back, and needless to say I was left speechless and amaze with so much Artistry of sound and expressiveness. and I was especially taken by "Three of A Perfect Pair". Great coincidence with your pick , Warren. I am so very grateful to the Produce like a Pro production Team for such an amazing content. I wish many more will come across these videos in years to come. Thank you for keeping the Art alive. Much Love Shai🙏❤ (A little Crimson heart lol)
Also I would love a video about the band Marillion
When I saw King Crimson live, I had the sense that I was watching the best rock music ever composed. It was truly thrilling.
Ahhh Crimson - possibly the band that gives me the biggest goosebumps!
Fun fact; if you look on TH-cam you'll see Belew playing the same guitar with Zappa, Talking Heads, Bowie & Crimson - all at their creative zeniths! Cor Blimey!!!!
Belew's beat-up Strat is right up there with other famous guitars: Gilmour's black strat, McCartney's Hofner bass, SRV's strat, and Rory Gallagher's strat.
@@andyharman3022 You mean Jimi Hendrix’s beat up old Strat ;) ? If I remember the story right, it went from Hendrix to Frank Zappa to Belew. It apparently sounds the way it does because it has a busted neck pick up that Adrian liked the sound of so never got repaired…
Ok, everybody just stop saying Fun Fact.
Saw King Crimson live in Hyde Park 1969.....breathtaking.
That would hav3 been one hell of a show let alone experience! That is awesome 👊🧡👍
Wow! I bet that was amazing & groundbreaking. The live recordings of that show sounds amazing, but I can't even begin to imagine how otherworldly it must have been to be there in person. Nobody was playing anything like King Crimson in 1969.
Amazing Kim!
It is not often I find someone else that's willing to spaz out over Crimson more than me. And you do it publicly, too. Brave man! ;)
Haha thanks ever so much
IMHO, Fripp is the most unique guitarist of the 20th Century. Think hard and it's impossible to find anyone who also picked up the instrument that is remotely like him. Considering the ubiquitous nature of the guitar, it is a monumental accomplishment. Thanks for the video! Enjoyed it thoroughly. 👏
Thanks ever so much for your wonderful comment
I agree fully. His guitar on the short, perfect song "St. Elmo's Fire from Eno's "Another Green World" album is as good as any of his works, simply beautiful.
He is the most overrated I think and as dark as it gets. When I think hard, he is Unique as anyone else. After album#1 the fragmenting began and each year they faded till they couldn't sell tickets to the smallest venues and had to sell them 2 for 1. The only thing keeping them around was that 1st album and another reincarnation won't matter. Annoying is his sound to me. If you love him Great ! .....but ,a session band playing the 1st album wringing it out for decades is my take.
@@dancolonna7844 Agreed. I love his solo on Peter Gabriel’s “White Shadow” which concludes the first side of the album (on vinyl, it’s an endless loop that works so well, in a Frippertronics way). His solo on Bowie’s “Teenage Wildlife” is immense. So versatile, so interesting, so “mildly terrifying”!
And he played it sitting down - typical rock star pose
I've recently just discovered King Crimson, and I must say that Discipline is one of the greatest albums I have ever heard, with the first track 'Elephant Talk' being one of the most accomplished, unique compositions I will probably ever hear. Phenomenal...
Yes. Although I prefer Frame by Frame, but yes.
Thela Hun Ginjeet
Welcome to the club, you will enjoy it
Very well said Charlie!
Welcome!
King Crimson was the first band I listened to that DEMANDED your full attention. Like, there's just SO MUCH happening, all at once. Repeated listening revealed so many layers.
Thanks ever so much Randy!
Their first album "Court... came out when I was 9 years old when my 15 YO sister got it for Christmas.
I've loved KC ever since and first saw them at Akron U. in 1982 (I had to skip a test to get front row seats).
3 of a perfect pair changed my life. One of the top prog albums of all time! Nothing has really worked so well, for me. It was challenging music done in such a hooky, melodic, and accessible fashion, that you don’t realize you’re humming along in some Whacky odd time signature. Great stuff. Love the cover art as well.
Agreed on that! The title song is unreal.
Well researched, scripted, edited and presented, this is informative, interesting and inspiring. Thank you. Though I have never been a major fan of the music, I love the concept of the band and have several of their albums, the faves of which are the trilogy of 'Discipline', 'Beat', and 'Three of a Perfect Pair' - Adrian Belew made that music more accessible for me. I recently saw one of KC's current drummers, Jeremy Stacey, filling in on a gig with the great Hamish Stuart of Average White Band, Paul McCartney, and Ringo Starr's All Starr Band fame. The music was r&b, with Stacey reading charts. It was yet another reminder that KC's members are anything but one-trick ponies.
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it!
Other than the Court, always one of my favorite albums in my 65 years,never appreciated the volume of the enormity of their art until only in recent years. But I'm OK with that. I was too narrow minded and set in my ways to open up other music. Just happy I got so brilliant after realizing what a stubborn fool I'd been for so long.😅 Great job on your documentary on such a phenomenally brilliant band!!!
What a remarkable 5 year run Adrien belew had. In 1976 he was an unknown, a year later he was in zappas band, which led to stints with bowie and talking heads before joining crimson in 81.
The end where you kind of got out of character and gave your own opinion of your love for the band was the best part of the whole video. Really shows that music like this isn't really broken down to a math or science but it comes from the heart and clicks with us.
Only concert my sons and I saw together, before the Covid nonsense, was King Crimson in September 2019. They were 15 and 18 at the time and huge fans as I am as well. It was an amazing show.
As you said at the end of the video, the seven headed beasts’ interpretation of earlier tracks is astounding. I can remember people applauding when the mellotron begins on “Starless”.
But for me the high point is “Islands.”
Just wonderful…
Thanks! Yes, amazing renditions!
The Giles drumming on the outtro of "In the Wake of Poseiden" is an essential track which I always listen to once or twice a year to get the maximum power access
Wonderful! Have yu checked out part 1? th-cam.com/video/VqSAPi-sIaw/w-d-xo.html
@@Producelikeapro not yet. Didn't even notice that I watched part 2 😄
My friend & I drove almost 300 miles with no ticket to see the 1973 Red tour.
We were able to get two tickets that weren’t picked up at the will call booth😊
Incredible show we were 18.
Wow! Amazing! Thanks for sharing!
I remember reading an interview with him in how he searches for musicians. He looks for musicians who approach the instrument uniquely and have an approach that is different from the typical way of playing it. So it isn't all about chops but more about how you approach the instrument to make it an extension of yourself and your personality. This is why I am so glad they got Gavin Harrison on the most recent interaction of the band. He is a phenomenally musical drummer :)
Thanks ever so much Dean for the wonderful comment and agreed, Gavin Harrison is a wonderful musician!
There’s a photo from the first Discipline gig in Bath, and in the front row you can see Curt Smith and Roland Orzabal, who would soon start their own band, Tears For Fears.
Always a treat, Warren. Thank you.
So well done. Thank you for parts 1 and 2!
Awesome!! Great work!!
great 2 part presentation, must have been a monumental effort on your part. More than well deserved as well, this band has been at the forefront by miles for decades, informing all music. Thank you, people need to know
Amazing job was done here! Thank you very much, Warren! King Crimson is classic!
This was really great, thanks for sharing your perspective.
Thank you Thank you Thank you for doing this 2 part series covering this band!!!!! This is one of my favorite bands ever. Oozing creativity. A rhythmic clinic. Fearless. There is enough rhythm to make your head spin on the Double Trio stuff! Warren , you are a gem. It is very much appreciated , what you do!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.
thanks so much for this brillant second episode ! a real pleasure to hear your heart speaking !
Thank you! Very well done like all your other docs!!
Thanks for a great two-parter on one of my favourite bands. 👍✌
Totally awesome walkthrough of the history of my favorite band. And nice to see you getting so passionate at the end. Not a minute too long.
King Crimson is one of the life changing bands. They inspired me to do music when I was a teen in the 70's and I still do music now.
I love Fripp's aphorisms and outlook on Art, thank you for including a few here!
more videos like this! spectacular production and writing on this video!
its so nice to see two vídeos of you producing an ultra good quality documentary and then going like any fan crazy for his favourite band in the end!
Thank you so much for this video, outstanding work!!!
I got this far and I loved every second of it - in both episodes, so from one fan to another - thank you.
Thank you for this Warren! Very well researched and put together. I was fortunate to see the band in the 1990s and 2000s incarnations and they were always so incredible live. Seeing different shows on the Thrak tour, you didn't know exactly what was going to happen and there was quite a bit of variance due to the improvisation. This created an "edge of your seat" excitement. Many musicians were in the audience of those tours as they looked to King Crimson as an inspiration and as fans of their music and half the fun for us nonmusician types was looking for famous people in the audience.
Two great episodes on an amazing band. ThanKc you!!
Fantastic vid on a fantastic band! Thank you so much.
Thank you for the King Crimson series, well done! Your enthusiasm is infectious!
Yes! I am a fan! And I had the vinyl of Three of a Perfect Pair but it disappeared somehow from my collection. I NEED to get this one again! Great memories, and as always an informative and detailed chronicle, thank you! And yes, I watched this one right to the end!
Brilliant,as I would expect from this channel
I loved your complete wig-out at the end of this video. I saw KC twice, on consecutive nights in Edinburgh in 2015 (two completely different experiences) and the octet in Glasgow in 2018. That’s more than I’ve seen anyone else. I too love Three of a Perfect Pair-got in on holiday in Paris as a teenager and it’s a lovely album. Thanks for the videos, hope these will earn the band new fans.
Three of a Perfect Pair is my favorite too. Great video!
Great history of KC. Thank you. Would love to see you cover Frank Zappa.
Thank you so much for this. Crimson is definitely very important personally (album covers tattooed and such), and you just seem to get it too!
I saw The League Of Gentlemen in 1980 in my hometown Ghent [Belgium]. It was a strange but mind blowing experience. Some cosmic kind of music I never heard before.
Thank you for this fantastic 2 part King Krimson story!
This is really, really good! The research is superb, the overview is there, and the elements are carefully selected. Massive kudos--I wish all such bios/documentaries could be this good. Thank you!
I was looking forward to Part 2 and am not disappointed--great work! Forwarding it along to those who will "get it" as well as some who won't, but hey, we can keep trying, right?! Thanks again.
"Three of a perfect pair" is my favourite album of theirs as well! Very good presentation.
❤ I truly enjoy your channel and your content is awesome
Thank you so much for your research and wonderful history lesson!! So much I didn’t know about this incredible band and artists. Got into them when Adrian and Tony were added...LOVE that time period
Man, how much work must have gone into this. A TH-cam classic. Much appreciated
that last conclusion at the end is so real man. great video about one of the greatest bands
Fantastic, thank you. I've also been a fan for decades.
Excellent!! Thank you so much!
Didn't know too much about King Crimson, a friend took me to see them last August here in California, I got teared up, they were an emotional rollercoaster. I'm so grateful for your 2 part documentary, thank you for sharing your perspective as well.
As for me, well.... "Confusion will be my epitaph as we crawl this cracked and broken path".
Excellent, thanks Warren.
Another great video Warren! I saw the last incarnation in 2018 and the Thrak tour, both great shows and Three Of a Perfect Pair is a great album, I agree. R.I.P. Bill Rieflin.
"Beat" is one of my all time favorite albums, brilliant review, thanks
When I first heard many years ago the court of the Crimson King totally change my approach to music and influence me every day
King Crimson - Incredibly awesome!!! Outside of the Beatles, I'm not sure of any other band to have progressed so far in their history. In The Court of The Crimson King, Red and Discipline are absolute masterworks.
Was waiting a couple of days to get a chance to see this part 2 - it didn’t disappoint. What a great pair of videos. I haven’t heard that much from these later incarnations at all but I’m keen to rectify that now.
Thanks!
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
My first listen of King Crimson in the 90s totally blew my mind. Great videos about this legendary band. King Crimson is a top 3 band for me!
Thank you... SOOOOO much!!! This is fantastic!
Still have my first edition Court of the Crimson King vinyl, much treasured.
The first time I heard it I was blown away. Chills running up and down my body AND it still does the same today
Three of a perfect pair is a MASTERPIECE. Thanks Warren for this amazing video. Krimson are huge to me. Hope you're well buddy.
This is brilliant! As is King Crimson! I've loved every incarnation of the band. Just haven't ever seen them live. Sadly enough. They are a huge influence on myself and many of my friends.
Thank you very much for this presentation
Excellent video!
Thanks for this video man. Very cool how you worked through this massive timeline with Fripp & his various musical minions. When you look up the definition of the word "enigma" in the dictionary, there is a picture of Robert Fripp! (I saw Crimson in concert back in 1970 in London, ON., CA. I think it changed my life just a little bit...) You answered questions (about Fripp & various Crimson permutations/knockoffs) that had been floating around in my head for decades, but they had never been voiced or resolved. So, thank you for this video. Great job on connecting all the blurred dots. I subscribed to your channel on this one. I have seen others by you. Very insightful and valid. Cheers & please keep them coming. Very cool channel! 😎✌🎸
Pleasure to watch! Both parts! THANKS LOADS!
Wouldnt have expected you to be SUCH a fan, especially of "3.o.a.p.P."
Got introduced to them when DISCIPLINE came out. Within the first bars I 😳🤪🤩realised that this is something VERY special ...
I learned TONS of stuff from you I didnt know about them so far ... thanks again!
Both great presentations thank you!
Bruford is a time machine. Perfet time. Perfectly placed beats. Saw him in Philly in 1984-85 at the now defunct Ripley Hall with Patrick Moraz on keys. Amazing what acoustic drums and piano can do
I went to a performance of King Crimson in 1994 in Buenos Aires, they recorded a live album that day with the Thrak and Vroom material. The double trio was mindblowing. I will never forget that night. Thanks for this video, wonderful. I´m also a fan of three of a perfect pair!!!!!!
Very well done! Parts 1 and 2!
What a pleasure Warren. Thanks for that. Bravo.
My Dad played me Larks' Tongues in Aspic in 1985, when I was 10, and it instantly mesmerized me. I've been lucky to see them about a half dozen times in various lineups starting with the Double Trio in the 90's. Easily one of my favorite bands. Thank you very much indeed for this mini series on KC, one of the greatest of all time.
Right, so I finally got around to watching these episodes. Coming from someone who already knows virtually everything about Crimson, these episodes are perfect. And it's clear from your passion that you "know". The live versions in particular are just top tier artistic achievement and are breathtakingly beyond great. I couldn't be a bigger admirer. Cheers for this, Warren
Brilliant review. Perfect in every way. Just so enjoyed watching that. Well done and thank you so much.
Both King Crimson documentaries were great and highly enjoyable. However, it was the last few minutes of the second documentary that was the true highlight and I absolutely loved! It’s where you went off script and passionately told the audience how much you loved the 80s KC and KC in general. I could (and will) rewatch that section and love it!
I am continually amazed, entertained and educated by your range of subject matter…How many people can recognize the genius of both King Crimson and Donna Summer? Then there's your great interview with Jack Douglas. Your passion for music and your thorough research are wonderful!
Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much! I love all types of music!!
This was so great. Thank you. I've been a huge fan of Crimson and Fripp since the early 1970's. I have a huge collection of their material and need to increase it. Thanks again.
Thanks for this one, Warren!😊
Thank you Warren! Thank you, thank you! Ginormous video of epic proportions! I loved it and learned so much about the band I didn't know! Wow!
And the story wouldn't have been complete without some personal favorites and why!
Phenomenal! You Rock Warren!
very great video introducing KC in musical, technical and historical view. thx for the great work
Construcktion of Light is my favorite King Crimson song I think. It has all the characteristics that I like and after seeing it live with the bruford, Belew, Levin, lineup. Amazing
Thank you so much! Really well researched and producted
Thanks ever so much
Here is a big "thank you!" from a Tuba player in Vienna:
THANK YOU!
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A great documentary! It was great to see your enthusiasm at the end! That's how enthusiastic I get when I talk about KC, too! 😀
Been a fan since I was 16(now 65), just a bit young to appreciate the release of the first album(I was 12!) but I soon caught up. Thanks for two great videos on the amost amazing band on the planet!
The balance you have struck , summarising the music, band member changes, personality etc is highly admirable. So well done Warren. I've got many of the box sets - missing the Starless one only . . . an epic band. A worthy tribute.
Thanks ever so much JLF! Everything own by King Crimson is absolutely amazing! I'm a huge fan!