@JonStewart-w2v Absolutely. And that EDM. I found out later they only sampled and remixed already recorded music and scratched records on a turntable not played on them or hired musicians to do that. Then there is the beat boxing they do with their mouths. Music for people who don't like music at all. The Smiths sang, "Burn down the disco. Because the music they play in there says nothing to me about my life." in their song Panic.
I started from the bottom now I’m here. I started from the bottom and the whole team’s here. I started from the bottom now I’m here I started from the bottom and the whole team’s here. (Repeated a thousand times). Shit, Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, Paul Simon Leonard Coen lyrics
@unduloid I bought an album by Fat Boy Slim and liking the music only to recently find it was all sampled from obscure records and remixed. Years ago, musicians would copy riffs and pieces from music they liked on their own musical instruments, not sampling it. I don't mind when a band I like performs a cover as long as it's in their own style and they play their own instruments.
@@Bluepilled-c5t If you have seen television commercials over the past twenty years or so, you have heard Maroon 5. Many times. One could argue that Maroon 5's only true purpose was to provide the commercial soundtrack for countless forgettable cell phones and Korean-made automobiles.
Yes, that song was spoken poorly of by musicians and non-musicians alike at the time in Metro NYC. But that didn't stop mass-promotional devices - "the machine" - from ramming it down our collective throats. (And I hated Fly Away even more (!)).
foo fighters; a band built with money. they are pointless. same with coldplay, they got hits but who are the members? look at bands like the beatles, led zeppelin, abba and kiss; every member had their own little fanclub. i'm 110% sure nobody can mention the names of all the members in any of these bands; foo fighters, coldplay, greta van fleet, arctic monkeys...if you can't mention the members, the band isn't interesting enough. solo artists and their backing band is a different thing but a good band should always treat each other equal as part of the band and share interviews etc. the manager should have this on top of the list, getting each member a place or spotlight so you as a fan want to learn more and get interested in that person which will only lead to following the band. following a band also means listening to their songs. a band is not only about the music, it's a lifestyle. bands that only see the buisness side, are so boring.
Pink Floyd was that band. I started listening to them in the 80s, I had no idea what they looked like or what their names were. The only visual impression I had of them were the covers of their most well known albums + Relics, light beams and a round screen. In the 90s I became aware of Syd, but I thought he was dead, a part of the 27 club. When I bought Roger Water's Amused to Death in the early 90s I had no idea who he was, I just heard some songs and liked it because it reminded me of Pink Floyd, I didn't know he was the writer and singer on The Wall. The first time I saw all of them (minus Syd) was a tv news clip of the Live 8 concert in 2005. I didn't need to know any of the band member's faces to enjoy the music.
Just my take on it, but you try to list the names of ANY band from the last 25 years and you'd have a difficult time, unless you're a die-hard fan and decide to research who they are. That's because the music industry has changed (d'uh), and the acts aren't being promoted the way they used to be. Where I live, all the radio has switched to the 'Classic Rock' format, meaning if the song isn't at least 20 years old, it won't get played. It doesn't matter who the act is...they could still be touring and putting out new music, but it's only the 20+-year old albums that are getting any airplay. And I don't care what anyone says, mainstream radio still plays a BIG part in getting musical acts promoted. The vast majority of the public is lazy - they're not going to go searching for new music. I believe the reason people knew the members of the bands you mentioned ("beatles, led zeppelin, abba and kiss") is because radio was promoting the music. Of course, having those acts appearing on variety shows on TV (American Bandstand, Ed Sullivan, etc.) didn't hurt either, and music video TV is pretty much a wasteland now, too. Another factor to consider is that 'bands' aren't being signed as much now either - what's left of the major promotion machine prefers to sign individual artists. There seems to be less risk in signing Billie Eilish or Lady Gaga than 4 temperamental individuals in a 'band', where the main songwriter could decide to split or the band could dissolve due to internal conflicts. tl;dr: My point is you don't see 'icons' anymore because the machine that makes them is broken. :)
The only reason they made it big in America is because David Letterman liked them and started promoting them early in their career. I've always called them the luckiest band on earth.....because they are very mediocre.
Of the million pointless bands, you mention Hootie? They had some decent Americana pop songs. Nothing great but better than a million other garbage bands or manufactured pop nonsense.
My favorite scene in “spinal tap” is where one of the critics is read as saying “what day did God create spinal tap, and couldn’t he have rested on that day too?”
Well said. They are a caricature of a band, they don't write great songs so the well trodden sex, sleaze, drugs m and celebrity girlfriend thing was the way to keep up the profile and sell books and tickets. You see how the Motley Crue enterprise treated Mick Mars on how business minded the band is.
Recently a news headline came out about Drave Grohl berating a concertgoer for bad behavior. People in the comments were "oh my god, I bet that guy felt so embarassed about being called out by Drave Grohl in front of the world!!" My immediate thought was "its more embarassing that he got caught at a Foo Fighters concert".
Coldplay - Radiohead for 12 year old girls. Or adults who've had a lobotomy. Mumford and Sons - If a geography teacher's tweed jacket with elbow patches came to life, found a banjo, and wrote the same song 37 times. Green Day - They're a punk band in the same way that Yoko Ono is a singer.
The ultimate definition of blandness just has to be Ed Sheeran, surely it's incontrovertible!! The musical equivalent of watching paint dry!! Oh yes, and totally pointless!! His huge success is the death knell of truly great music and one of life's great mysteries!! Really don't know how he isn't in your list?? If I may, could I urge you to perhaps listen to the Simple Minds album 'New Gold Dream??' A genuine masterpiece which has since been very influential and for me, their best record!! Sons And Fascination / Sister Feelings Call is excellent too and may just make you change your mind?? Thanks again for another great video xx
Yes, totally right about those Simple Minds’ albums. Sister Feelings Call was even produced by Steve Hillage of Gong…. that’s got to spark Andy’s curiosity. :)
The problem is that most people are middle of the road, easy-listening, flavorless music consumers. Then add into that that lots of radio programmers/DJ's are trying to cast the widest net and repeat the same songs into oblivion to save money and time with actually being adventurous, you get what we have.
@deankelly2079 I don't much now but from the 70s to the 00s, I was listening to it a lot. We had BBC radio on a lot when I was a child and a teenager but everyone was listening to different stations.
Yes, so much yes. The local rock station plays "everything that rocks" but barely plays anything beyond 1999. It's bogus and sad hearing the same lineup of tracks i heard in 1992 in 2024.
Simple Minds; "Don't You, Forget About Me". Andy; "(sigh) I'm trying to think of a record by them". Some people have misinterpreted this comment. I just thought it was ironic that Andy sighed and then said "I'm trying to think of a record by them, when they had a big hit called "Don't You, Forget About Me". Lighten up people.
Might be overplayed, but that's a great pop song. Haven't heard anything else from that band though, because I doubt they've managed to release a better song than that.
@@kennet7837 The drumming drives this song, it's a brilliant hit. New Gold Dream, Alive and Kicking are pretty good too. I don't see this band as pointless, they were just famous because of some good hits.
the legendary Suicidal Tendencies frontman, Mike Muir, used to tell funny stories about Lenny Kravitz, who was known as "Romeo Blue" in his early days, and was trying to succeed as a sex symbol/singer for pre-teens 🙂
The Stereophonics pic makes more sense when you watch the whole video...our man is taking the proverbial!....great stuff!...although it is astonishing how many albums David Grey shifted
@@LobsterDunnYeah - loved all the hidden dogs after watching it all. Best video of the year for me. Going to watch it again with my partner - she really needs to see this! Lol
Right on. The Foo Fighters are pointless. I went to see them back around d 2008, or so, and left after 5 songs. It was like watching a middling cover band do generic covers of B sides.
My Mum loved Methods of Mayhem so much so she went out and bought the album. She was confused when she got home and put it on and it didnt sound like what she remembered hearing on the telly so much so she involved me in this situation asking me why this didnt sound like the band she heard. She said its all screaming and horrible noise. Turns out she bought a MAYHEM album hahaha i loved it though haha my mum is insane! lol.
@@jamesmcc5147 You made me check it out, and jfc what utter garbage. It's not even funny in the way some cheesy 80s nonsense can be, just really, really bland and boring musical twaddle.
They seem to have ramped up in the last few weeks,they're basically trying to piss you off into giving them money,can't be many takers of their 'pay for no ads' campaign.
That's true. But the band needs to represent something at the core of what they write and play. AcDc and Van Halen are pretty much cock-rock lyrically,but musically,they are fantastic because they represent blues and swing type playing mixed with hard rock,which is traditionalist. Both bands had a great live show visually too. Bands like Bush are a corporate construct. A bunch of phones that couldn't write or sing. Grunge ain't the best music to begin with,and Bush was pretty much third rate grunge. Pointless indeed
@@davidgangemi3314 I've never been deep into Bush, however I'd disagree. I could be wrong but I don't believe they were constructed like a boy band or something. They were in other bands previously. Plus they wrote their own music. Much of today's Pop is written by 13 different people, same with many Country songs. For me, those are corporate creations. Bush, I don't see it.
@@trevorstevenson4038 seeing that 95% of the comments are lists of pointless bands, I'd say that would be the opposite of consensus. My ego just isn't big enough to assume that if I don't like something or get something, it must be pointless. Plus try this on for an idea. Even if a band just writes music in an attempt to get hits and to sell as many records as possible. Perhaps that was the point. My personal favs are far from popular music. But I'm not going to shit on others art because I don't like it .
The reason that so many of these bands and artists have sold so well is that the vast majority of people are not passionate about music. They just want something palatable and easy to hum along to. I love hearing your venting. Keep it up.
That's why a small portion of artists on Spotify get most of the streams. They are cookie cutter Pop acts and the 3 major record labels have engineered it that way.
Couldn’t agree more! It’s like spending big money on seeing one of your favorite bands in concert outdoors and having at least half the audience sitting on a blankets with their drinks and cheese and crackers and all they’re doing is talking and talking and talking through the whole show. And the music is basically just background noise for them while they socialize. That makes me completely nuts! I won’t waste money on outdoor concerts like that anymore because I go to concerts to listen to the music, not socialize. If I want to socialize I’ll go out to a restaurant with friends and talk.
@@CarbogggChasing Cars was a monumental inescapable worldwide hit and now I can’t quite remember which plod rock song it was and I won’t be looking it up 😂. Can’t remember any Imagine Dragons song either though they were everywhere.
@LordDipstick-b1c very true. I'm not telling anyone they are wrong for their opinion. I've just seen them multiple times and they are all incredible musicians.
@sg24336 sorry not everyone likes all the same things as you. They are all incredible musicians you like that kind of music or not. If you can't see that you know nothing about music. It's fine to dislike that style of music but to say they aren't a good band is what is laughable.
Who buys the recordings of these bands? That's te problem. and leave the Bunnymen alone.. that Liverpool scene with Teardrop Explodes etc was very beautiful......
Do the ten shitest 'reaction' videos, where a bloke in a daft hat and headphones listens to a bit of Joni Mitchell or Motorhead, having admitted he's never heard of them, and then pauses it to announce he likes their hair.
My favourite is the guy who speaks in a either a monotoneor screams at super speed, introduces the song, never pauses then says “I liked that. Tune in next time.” The video is about 60 seconds longer than the song. Which channel? Throw a dart.
@@dorn0531 Those videos are absolute slop but maybe I'm the idiot for not getting on that bandwagon ten years ago when making money out of TH-cam was still a reasonably achievable goal. Could've made a few quid out of it - easiest job ever, surely...
I think I can explain the Bill Hicks one. If you look closely you can see he’s holding the mic like a pencil. Jim Kerr was famous for doing that, thus the Bill Hicks photo. Voila!
@@alanbaird82 I think the idea is to get people replying about the ‘mistake’ and keeping the channel active, to help Andy’s rise to the top of the TH-cam charts. Plus, he’s a bit of a pisstaker :)
Re Simple Minds, what you have missed is where they started , more alternative and a crossover of the emerging electronic music and alternative guitar rock, they then released New Gold Dream which was a stepping stone from cult band status towards “big” music. After that they went horribly stadium, so to use the term pointless is perhaps temporally correct after about 1985!
Amen to that. Up to Sons & Fascination/ Sister Feelings Call they made interesting albums sort of fusing Roxy Music and Kraftwerk with a rockier edge. Then came Sparkle in the Rain and they morphed into stadium dullards while losing their not so secret weapon bassist Derek Forbes. New Gold Dream the title track is still a cracker but the other tracks sound very dated and are indicative of where it started to go wrong
@@BarkingSpiders-km7oj Empires and Dance isn't *absolutely* worthless, but I still wouldn't recommend that to anyone, tbh - yeah, they're perhaps fusing Roxy Music and Kraftwerk, but they're decidedly worse than either - but at least E&D doesn't make me nauseated, like the later stuff - just bored. Jfc I want to punch the people who made me check out New Gold Dream, though.
I must be the only Simple Minds fan to like every album, with the exception of Neapolis, but even that one has about 3-4 songs I keep going back to. From the experimental early albums to the so-called "stadium sellouts" I find their music and lyrics to be very inspirational on many levels. Here in America they only had 2 big hits but that's ok, they're my secret.
Simple Minds were brilliant before they became huge. "New Gold Dream" is their masterpiece, an album full of dreamy, ethereal synth pop/wave. It's 1982 in a nutshell. And 1982 was really a turning point, right between the start of MTV and the introduction of the Compact Disc. In many ways it was the last year of progress in popular music. Btw "New Gold Dream" was one of the first CDs -- a Virgin "blue face" without barcode (and extended version of the title track). Grab it if you ever find it... it's still playable and sounds great.
LOL, I mean why any band then? Why anything? Ed Vetter is an amazing singer. Def Leppard was a new standard in the production of metal. And the Boss is legend. FWIW I don't go out of my way to listen to any of those, like 100's of others. But why not them?
Saw them twice between 1991 and 1993 and to this day, still one of the best live band I have seen. Have they gone off the boil? Lost touch with them after the 3rd album.
I was in a LA metal band in 1989. When Warrant's Cherry Pie came out I said, "They will never take us seriously ever again". Metal died immediately, and sad Grunge rock was ushered in. Same happened to Rap with exploitation of women, raining money videos.
Metal didn't die in the 90s, that's bull. I never had any problem finding new metal in the 90s. Hair metal died, thankfully, but it needed to die. I felt that way about glam since 1986. Groove Metal, Death Metal, Black Metal, Industrial Metal, Alternative Metal, Funk Metal, and Nu Metal all exploded in popularity in the 90s. There was more variety of metal in rhe 90s then there ever was in the 80s
Creed I enjoy some songs of, but Foo Fighters and Coldplay don't do it either for me either. I get they're good at making catchy hooks, but they lack depth.
The saga of Grohl/Hawkins/Foo reminds me of T S Eliot, “The world ends, not with a bang but a whimper”. Of course, RIP Taylor Hawkins. His singing and playing on the DeeGees’ covers were terrific.
Where I work the IT "helpdesk" has Jack Johnson as their hold music. I've sat at my desk listening to that for hours. Your impression of him was spot on.
Andy, you are 100% spot ON about Camel. Every word of it true. I tried for years to see something more in their music and I never managed, probably because there is no 'there' there, at least to me. Only one moment in all of their output still grabs me. The last section of the middle track of their self-titled album (I think it's the White Rider section), an interesting chord progression with good guitar melody, then it all drops out and we get that truly arresting, sweet synth-bass-sounding line, delayed guitar hesitations. That is cool, great, and if I'm honest, that is it.
Blasphemy! Echo and the Bunnymen rules. Linkin Park is pointless (However, let it be known I think the lead singer seemed to be one of the nicest guys ever.)
Yes, it's one of the very few things I haven't agreed with Andy so far. Echo And The Bunnymen is probably of the best new wave bands ever, better than Cure and U2 to whom they've always been compared. Their second album "Heaven Up Here" is a desert island record to me.
Agree on Echo. Can’t agree on Linkin Park. They have a following, so some bunch must like them a lot (don’t ask me why). And perhaps more people actively hate them. That being the case I don’t think they can be pointless.
Does music need to have a point though? Its kind of a random exercise to name 10 bands. Its fun, but ultimately its just kind of silly to argue about. I guess every musician gives it a good go and try to do well for themselves. You aren’t obliged to listen or like every band.
It's pointless to list pointless bands... I think the exercise is a bit funny though, it's not about coming up with band that you hate but that nonetheless had an impact on music (even if you think it's for the worse), it's bands that could have not existed and it would have been exactly the same, no-one would have noticed.
We all let bands pass us by, there's not time for everything. Enjoy the bands you enjoy. That's not an excuse to be the so-called fan that doesn't listen to any band that came after he left high school, of course.
Foo Fighters!? Wtf!? I am proud to say I do not know one of their songs. Bland. “What did the Foo say to the groupie while he was going at it ? Beige! I am going to paint my ceiling Beige!”
@@jeremyturner745 im old😘 British blues, prog rock early years (69-75) 60s pop/psych! Jazz 50s60s .. I have too many likes!! But in the 90s I lost interest in main stream music so I went back to my roots! Those bands listed are ok if that’s all you have. Too many killer bands no one knows about! Ah the hunt!😘🕊️
HOOBASTANK, INCUBUS, IMAGINE DRAGONS, NICKELBACK, HOOTIE& etc, THE HOOTERS, WARRENT, THE GOG GOS, FISHBONE and ALL OF COUNTRY MUSIC OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS.
Why would you throw Fishbone under the bus? I opened for them like 20 years ago, and they were the most chill, non-pompous anti-rockstars ever. They gave us a bottle of tequila and danced during our set. If being a laid-back mediocre ska band is a crime, sign me up.
@davidmorse3190 they had a few billboard hits, and they were on the soundtracks of quite a few hit films here in the states. But I obviously just have a personal soft spot for them. I don't think I've actually listened to them since the last time i watched "Last Action Hero"
Sorry dude, with William on this one. Met Angelo Moore at a great, energetic Fishbone show back in the nineties. Met him again a few years ago at a still great, energetic show. Both times he's gracious, humble, and positive, and the band had the whole room jumping. Granted, their music is difficult to categorize, but you're way off base here.
Re:Simple Minds. It was Mel's drumming that heralded the band's bland, glitzy stadium era. New Gold Dream was their masterpiece and was preceeded by 4 quite brilliant albums in and of themselves. The experimental, synth-driven, cutting-edge new wave went out the window with the release of Sparkle In The Rain.
U2 copied Simple Minds, not the other way around. SM were a great band. Empires and Dance, New Gold Dream are really good albums. They went a bit "Enormodome" post '85, to be fair.
Yeah, Simple Minds doesn't belong on this list. Their early albums were groundbreaking and quite different from anything else being produced. And yes, they did get a bit bloated after mid eighties stardom. I think that's the only Simple Minds Andy's aware of.
Yes, Andy is completely wrong about Simple Minds, they were way ahead in the post punk dance synth genera. I saw them play The Musicians Club in Sydney 1981, it was a small venue and people were literally hanging off the ceiling. The American and Love Song had heavy play on the radio and everyone was discovering the Sons and Fascination album. Go driving to 70 Cities As Love Brings The Fall or the even more impressive Theme for Great Cities. Then came New Gold Dream. Every track is a classic and completely definitive of the era and setting the new direction for dance music to come in the 80s. By the end of the 80s they had had their moment but when they were great they were really great. Not pointless at all.
To me Swedish hairspray, fluff-rock band Europe takes first place in both most pointless and most hated bands. To me The Final Countdown has to be the worst, least interesting rock songs ever. And no one on earth could mention another Europe song if their lives depended on it, - that’s how boring they were.
The one about "Rock now, rock the night...til early in the morning light". I just assumed they blew up in a hairspray/lit cigarette accident and that was their only 2 songs....
All those hair rock bands were pointless. You could erase all of them bar Motley Crue from music history and lose nothing. "The Final Countdown" is an excellent example of that old adage "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." God, it's so _boring_ - it goes nowhere and does nothing, but it hits every hair rock cliché (histrionic vocals, noodly solo, gloopy synths - check!) so it was a smash hit...
I can understand people not liking them, but they were nothing like Duran Duran! Maybe some of the early New Romantic fashion choices, but beyond that they went in totally different directions. To Cut a Long Story was ok, Chant Number 1 was good, True and Gold are classics, Through the Barricades was decent. Some so-so songs in between all of them. I think that's about it - that's their career.
When you picked Bush as your first pointless band, I laughed out loud. A British band trying to sound like a Yank grunge band. Couldn't stand them straight out of the gate. That era was a huge drag.
I was surprised when he said they were British. I thought they WERE a Yank band. In saying that, I'd forgotten all about them until they were mentioned in this video.
I think Simple Minds was part of a broad movement to a sound of the times, if you actually meant Simply Red, that band is worthless. Lenny Kravitz blended multiple sounds and was given credit for that at the time, but I still agree with your assessment. I found myself frequently stopping the video to pop over to Spotify to refresh my mind as to who these bands are. I guess that act in itself demonstrates your point. Well done
I'm a friend of jam; I can listen to Phish for hours, for example. Love Moe, Umphrees McGee, etc. But DMB is a reflexive rush to change the SiriusXM channel for sure.
DMB hate has never made sense to me. I figure people heard crash and the space between too many times on the radio or they misconstrue the poop bus story for the 10,000th time. Either way, if you met Dave, you'd disagree. Great guy.
the music CAN be good, but it's not great and Dave is a mid singer and .. the fans who insist it's the best thing ever rub everyone who's going "it's just ok" a bit wrong. Carter Buford is a monster drummer though. That alone kind of carries the thing.
I’d agree that Simple Minds were bland by the time they became mainstream. Empires and Dance isn’t bland though. They were a creative leftfiled band in their early 80s period.
I'd throw in Trapt, Three Doors Down, POD; Matchbox 20, Avenged Sevenfold, Three Days Grace; All American Rejects, Disturbed, Coldplay - and the worst of ALL, Dave Matthews Band.
Blink 182 Maroon 5 Imagine Dragons Maneskin Breaking Benjamin Creed Poison Skillet Dragonforce Bon Jovi Honorable mentions : Linkin Park Coldplay Pearl Jam Def Leppard Muse Green Day Korn
I shudder to see Maneskin being mentioned outside of Italy. A more completely manufactured band i never seen in my life. They won the Italian music festival and you could tell it was all orchestrated, with the media pumping praises of them day and night. Even my mother knows them and she is the least one you'd expect to care about rock music in any form. The only rock band that was ever mainstream in Italy was Liftiba but back then they had to earn it with some actually good song writing. But that isn't a requirement anymore. The media says you are famous, so you are now famous.
Primal Scream invented late 80s indie jangle-rock with their song "Velocity Girl". Then their '91 album "Screamadelica" was genuinely groundbreaking, largely due to the input of DJ Andrew Weatherall and his remixing skills. But live.... they were a bit of a mixed bag.
They basically have three eras: the initial art rock era; becoming bigger in the synth pop era; the era after their keyboardist and bassist left after the Once Upon a Time album which went big in America, after which it became the Jim Kerr&Charlie Burchill Project. Even drummer Mel Gaynor became only an occasional drummer. The first 2 eras have very original and strong material.
My older brother who saw bands like ELP and Yes in the 1970s maintained that Simple Minds were one of the best live acts he'd ever seen. He didn't like their records that much, though.
Yeah, I can't agree with this one. Aside from Screamadelica, which one could choose to lay at the feet of Andrew Weatherall, XTRMNTR is a top rank dance rock album, and Vanishing Point and Beautiful Future have a lot of interesting elements. There aren't many bands like them, their music does stand out, and is indeed interesting and not pointless. I don't really agree about Motley Crue either, Skid Row, Winger, Dokken and dozens of other forgotten soundalikes are much more worthy. Also the Half Man Half Biscuit lyric "I've only got 3 bullets and there is 4 of Motley Crue". Too Fast For Love came out in 1981 which puts them right of the beginning of that scene which makes them leaders and thus not really pointless. As someone that also has a lot of Camel albums I would say Andy is on point with them!.
Also agree, they've made so many great records, I can't understand this one. You could name 100 indie landfill bands that Primal Scream tower over - why would he pick them?!
Always make interesting records changing genres at a drop of the hat. Plus Gillespie has a tendency to lose it when playing live which always gives them an edge
Kravitz. First two albums were great - but seriously - call the lyric police!! "I wanna get away, I wanna fly away, yeah yeah.. I want to get away.. I wish that I could fly into the sky so very high..." seriously?? Almost worse than Coldplay.
Bobby Gillespie was in Jesus and Mary Chain. I reckon the same people are continually replacing their Jack Johnson albums, due to everyone else in the house destroying them.
They're trite trash, as far as I'm concerned, and I hold the people who recommend that act responsible for making me suffer through their musical drivel.
@@saintgeorge6706 You keep on enjoying them - not that I think I could stop you, but I don't even want that - but jfc it was painful - *to me* - to listen to their music.
Saw him live at a festival around 1997 - H.O.R.D.E. fest. I can't recall the exact year. He didn't even play guitar during the songs I watched - he had it strapped on like a prop. "Are You Going My Way" sounds like Frank Marino. Never heard Lenny give Frank any credit.
Say what you want about Simple Minds and Echo and the Bunnymen, but the 80's wouldn't be quite as good without 'Don't You (Forget About Me)' and 'The Killing Moon'
Belfast Child was a huge hit where I grew up. That song made such an impression on me, and still does. I think any artist (or band) should be judged on his best work. And in the end bands just try to stay relevant (and make money) and that's fine with me.
Simple Minds were a great dance club band, but right after Sparkle in the Rain (1984), they released a bunch of dull singles/albums in their quest to be a stadium rock band.
As for the Foo Fighters, I recently watched a disturbing TH-cam video that charted their early career support for aids denialism. It's detailed in a video on the Rebecca Watson (Skepchick) channel and was released just over a week ago.
Andy!! Simple Minds' first 4 albums are brilliant...they became, as you say "pointless" after that. But the double LP "Sons And Fascination/Sister Feelings Call" was produced by Steve Hillage is/are a masterpiece(s). Never tire of those 2 albums....at that point in time they weren't another U2, but do agree, they did turn into a U2-like stadium band post 1984 and yes.....pointless and tried to like them after that but gave up. Big Country, on the other hand, were my favourite band in 1983/84...they went off the boil after that until the 1990s were they salvaged their early reputation and their final album "Driving To Damascus" in 1999 is a must listen, especially in the light of Stuart Adamson ending his life some 2 years after this.
I sure was no Simple Minds fan at the time (they really bludgeonned us on the head with them on FM radio), but with time I came to recognize their 'soundmaking' talent. 'The Hurting' pretty much defined the 80s.
So did other bands he mentions. Camel were weeks great in the 70s. But they became bland over time. I think he doesn't mean that they didn't make any great music at all.
Agree Simple Minds were great until they became a stadium band and Jim Kerr got a mullet and wore cowboy boots. The sound they had on Sons and Fascination and New Gold Dream is epic, classic and timeless. It was a shame they went so corny after that.
I love Simple Minds…they’re not pointless and they made some epic music despite their big hits…the albums ‘Sister Feelings Call’, ‘New Gold Dream’ and ‘Sparkle In The Rain’ all have some great melodic epic tunes far greater than bland U2 shite
Dave Mathews is music that lawyers listen to when when they want to "cut loose" with a craft beer.
Haaaa, I NEVER got into Dave Matthews Band. Don't know what the fuss is about.
I can't stand to hear them OMG cringe 🫣🤢
@@genericusername1365 The musicians are very talented. However, everyone has a different musical appetite.
Here is the thing. You may not like DMB, but if you look at all the members individually, they are all EXCEPTIONALLY talented musicians.
Jeff Coffin and Carter Beauford for example.
For me it’s Coldplay and Imagine Dragons, they are band for people who don’t like music 🥱
Coldplay is pointless for sure
They seem like scams invented by record companies to take money from people who don’t have any taste.
Can't stand Coldplay so maybe they do count
Coldplay are not pointless, they are a deep state psycological weapon to cause mass social despondency.
The very names of these bands makes them out to be pointless
Is anyone else just completely sick and tired of shitty rap music being everywhere?
@JonStewart-w2v Absolutely. And that EDM. I found out later they only sampled and remixed already recorded music and scratched records on a turntable not played on them or hired musicians to do that. Then there is the beat boxing they do with their mouths. Music for people who don't like music at all. The Smiths sang, "Burn down the disco. Because the music they play in there says nothing to me about my life." in their song Panic.
Give me T Rex David Bowie. Slade
I started from the bottom now I’m here.
I started from the bottom and the whole team’s here.
I started from the bottom now I’m here
I started from the bottom and the whole team’s here.
(Repeated a thousand times).
Shit, Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, Paul Simon Leonard Coen lyrics
@@lemsip207
Genuine turntabelism is an artform, but it has pretty much gone the way of the dodo.
@unduloid I bought an album by Fat Boy Slim and liking the music only to recently find it was all sampled from obscure records and remixed. Years ago, musicians would copy riffs and pieces from music they liked on their own musical instruments, not sampling it. I don't mind when a band I like performs a cover as long as it's in their own style and they play their own instruments.
Bush: Accountants doing Grunge: love it!
Maroon 5
worst
I’ve never listened to them only heard the name mentioned again and again
@@Bluepilled-c5t If you have seen television commercials over the past twenty years or so, you have heard Maroon 5. Many times. One could argue that Maroon 5's only true purpose was to provide the commercial soundtrack for countless forgettable cell phones and Korean-made automobiles.
Urgh yeah
@@gozorak lol. Oh ok. I must do some research
Foo Fighters...I have no idea how Mr. Grohl became so successful...the most generic rock band ever
Er...perhaps because he had something to with Kurt Cobain's "suicide"...
People love that generic rock stuff, if they’re told to.
His drum fills, and his voice. Couple songs.
Good tunes, charismatic frontman, amazing live shows.
They occupy a space in the pop-rock genre with a ton of catchy hits that most people, myself included, find great.
Lenny Kravitz managed to remove all the politics out of American Woman - he never understood the message of the song.
Yes, that song was spoken poorly of by musicians and non-musicians alike at the time in Metro NYC. But that didn't stop mass-promotional devices - "the machine" - from ramming it down our collective throats. (And I hated Fly Away even more (!)).
To be honest, i never did either!
He’s an imposter
He wrecked the song musically, too. Everything he does sounds music-like, rock-like, but it's not really musical.
Hated that version. The original vocal was Fuggin great. krapits blanked it out for brainless dancing.
foo fighters; a band built with money. they are pointless. same with coldplay, they got hits but who are the members? look at bands like the beatles, led zeppelin, abba and kiss; every member had their own little fanclub. i'm 110% sure nobody can mention the names of all the members in any of these bands; foo fighters, coldplay, greta van fleet, arctic monkeys...if you can't mention the members, the band isn't interesting enough. solo artists and their backing band is a different thing but a good band should always treat each other equal as part of the band and share interviews etc. the manager should have this on top of the list, getting each member a place or spotlight so you as a fan want to learn more and get interested in that person which will only lead to following the band. following a band also means listening to their songs. a band is not only about the music, it's a lifestyle. bands that only see the buisness side, are so boring.
The Foo's had like three good songs; that's about it.
Pink Floyd was that band. I started listening to them in the 80s, I had no idea what they looked like or what their names were. The only visual impression I had of them were the covers of their most well known albums + Relics, light beams and a round screen. In the 90s I became aware of Syd, but I thought he was dead, a part of the 27 club. When I bought Roger Water's Amused to Death in the early 90s I had no idea who he was, I just heard some songs and liked it because it reminded me of Pink Floyd, I didn't know he was the writer and singer on The Wall.
The first time I saw all of them (minus Syd) was a tv news clip of the Live 8 concert in 2005. I didn't need to know any of the band member's faces to enjoy the music.
Foo fighters are way better than Nirvana could ever dream of being
Yes
Foo Fighters. Good call. They are terrible.
Just my take on it, but you try to list the names of ANY band from the last 25 years and you'd have a difficult time, unless you're a die-hard fan and decide to research who they are. That's because the music industry has changed (d'uh), and the acts aren't being promoted the way they used to be. Where I live, all the radio has switched to the 'Classic Rock' format, meaning if the song isn't at least 20 years old, it won't get played. It doesn't matter who the act is...they could still be touring and putting out new music, but it's only the 20+-year old albums that are getting any airplay. And I don't care what anyone says, mainstream radio still plays a BIG part in getting musical acts promoted. The vast majority of the public is lazy - they're not going to go searching for new music. I believe the reason people knew the members of the bands you mentioned ("beatles, led zeppelin, abba and kiss") is because radio was promoting the music. Of course, having those acts appearing on variety shows on TV (American Bandstand, Ed Sullivan, etc.) didn't hurt either, and music video TV is pretty much a wasteland now, too. Another factor to consider is that 'bands' aren't being signed as much now either - what's left of the major promotion machine prefers to sign individual artists. There seems to be less risk in signing Billie Eilish or Lady Gaga than 4 temperamental individuals in a 'band', where the main songwriter could decide to split or the band could dissolve due to internal conflicts. tl;dr: My point is you don't see 'icons' anymore because the machine that makes them is broken. :)
Hootie and the Blowfish.....huge in America, not appreciated in the UK for good reasons.
The only reason they made it big in America is because David Letterman liked them and started promoting them early in their career. I've always called them the luckiest band on earth.....because they are very mediocre.
Of the million pointless bands, you mention Hootie? They had some decent Americana pop songs. Nothing great but better than a million other garbage bands or manufactured pop nonsense.
3 chord jangle rock. Entirely pointless.
Vomit.
They weren't "huge" in America. They were one hit wonders.
My favorite scene in “spinal tap” is where one of the critics is read as saying “what day did God create spinal tap, and couldn’t he have rested on that day too?”
"...s**t sandwich."
@@s.n.a.k.e.plissken "You can't really dust for vomit..."
"I wish I thought if that" - Nigel Tufnell
@@s.n.a.k.e.plissken"You can't print that!"
@@s.n.a.k.e.plissken ya, shit sandwich is so funny…the whole critics scene is great “They’re treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality”
Motley Crue were selling a lifestyle. They sold it as long as they could.
Well said. They are a caricature of a band, they don't write great songs so the well trodden sex, sleaze, drugs m and celebrity girlfriend thing was the way to keep up the profile and sell books and tickets. You see how the Motley Crue enterprise treated Mick Mars on how business minded the band is.
@@H-mu4bo Yes, it's a business, not a band.
They suck.
If pro wrestling and porn were a band.
@@thepagecollective 🥸😂🥸🙃🥺😅
Recently a news headline came out about Drave Grohl berating a concertgoer for bad behavior. People in the comments were "oh my god, I bet that guy felt so embarassed about being called out by Drave Grohl in front of the world!!"
My immediate thought was "its more embarassing that he got caught at a Foo Fighters concert".
Knowing Groehl he probably found out the guy didn’t get a half dozen jabs. More like the Foo Pfizers.
“Drave Grohl” also I bet you and your pretentious mates really put that guy through the ringer for liking the Foo Fighters! Fucks sake
Jack Johnson is hammock valium
Why did you keep calling him Drave?
Coldplay - Radiohead for 12 year old girls. Or adults who've had a lobotomy.
Mumford and Sons - If a geography teacher's tweed jacket with elbow patches came to life, found a banjo, and wrote the same song 37 times.
Green Day - They're a punk band in the same way that Yoko Ono is a singer.
Mumford and Sons, the trust fund Worzels - Charlie Brooker
you got them bang to rights, each and every one.
That's some great stuff and spot on...
Ah… yeah,but their first album was decent … songs likes The Scientist , God put a smile on your face were good . Anything after 2006 … burn in hell
I mean early green day was ok
Grumpy Andy is best Andy.
Notice the framing is missing the top of head? Grumpy Andy flipped his own wig.
The ultimate definition of blandness just has to be Ed Sheeran, surely it's incontrovertible!!
The musical equivalent of watching paint dry!!
Oh yes, and totally pointless!!
His huge success is the death knell of truly great music and one of life's great mysteries!!
Really don't know how he isn't in your list??
If I may, could I urge you to perhaps listen to the Simple Minds album 'New Gold Dream??'
A genuine masterpiece which has since been very influential and for me, their best record!!
Sons And Fascination / Sister Feelings Call is excellent too and may just make you change your mind??
Thanks again for another great video xx
@@NatashaSherringham
Don't you forget about me is a great song from a classic 80's bratprack movie.
Ed Sheeran is not pointless on account of his blandness. His point _is_ being bland. He stands out for that. He's the blandest.
Ed Sheeran is just David Gray writ large though.
You're bang on about Simple Minds. 👍
@@NatashaSherringham yeah, he sucks.
Yes, totally right about those Simple Minds’ albums. Sister Feelings Call was even produced by Steve Hillage of Gong…. that’s got to spark Andy’s curiosity. :)
"They never did drugs, committed suicide or went to prison. They're pointless!" Thanks for making me feel relevant.
Bill Hicks instead of a pic of Jim Kerr from Simple Minds.....love it!
Lol
You mean Alex Jones
I thought I was spacin' when it came up, but that's him. Good catch!
@greggorup1006 we love a good conspiracy theory but to this day the Alex Jones/Bill Hicks theory is one of the dumbest ones ever.
@@theandroidmeme I agree. But Chevy Chase is Jim Morrison, right?
The problem is that most people are middle of the road, easy-listening, flavorless music consumers. Then add into that that lots of radio programmers/DJ's are trying to cast the widest net and repeat the same songs into oblivion to save money and time with actually being adventurous, you get what we have.
The Ramones were a punk band for those not into punk.
And this is the reason I don't listen to the radio
@deankelly2079 I don't much now but from the 70s to the 00s, I was listening to it a lot. We had BBC radio on a lot when I was a child and a teenager but everyone was listening to different stations.
Yes, so much yes. The local rock station plays "everything that rocks" but barely plays anything beyond 1999. It's bogus and sad hearing the same lineup of tracks i heard in 1992 in 2024.
Haha I'm glad someone said it.
The real problem is the masses of ordinary music listeners
Simple Minds; "Don't You, Forget About Me".
Andy; "(sigh) I'm trying to think of a record by them".
Some people have misinterpreted this comment. I just thought it was ironic that Andy sighed and then said "I'm trying to think of a record by them, when they had a big hit called "Don't You, Forget About Me". Lighten up people.
Predictably, the world did forget about them. Never understood why anyone liked that bunch of chancers.
Might be overplayed, but that's a great pop song. Haven't heard anything else from that band though, because I doubt they've managed to release a better song than that.
@@kennet7837 The drumming drives this song, it's a brilliant hit. New Gold Dream, Alive and Kicking are pretty good too. I don't see this band as pointless, they were just famous because of some good hits.
@@yinoveryang4246Yeah but they at least had a memorable hit. Some of the bands he mentions here weren't bland but they became bland over time.
simple minds were a great band once. I highly recommend you check them out
David Grey's greatest trick is to convince the world he never existed.
The Orb. They are great but Orbs are round and don't have any points so... pointless.
🙄
Best analysis ever.
Broken pencils too. Someone sharpen those MFs
Literal take on the question. But not accurate. Orbs have infinite points but no corners :)
90 minutes of intros with no songs. I saw them live.
the legendary Suicidal Tendencies frontman, Mike Muir, used to tell funny stories about Lenny Kravitz, who was known as "Romeo Blue" in his early days, and was trying to succeed as a sex symbol/singer for pre-teens 🙂
Bush? Agreed,.... But why the picture of Stereophonics? Lol
Exactly my thought lmao
The Stereophonics pic makes more sense when you watch the whole video...our man is taking the proverbial!....great stuff!...although it is astonishing how many albums David Grey shifted
@@LobsterDunnYeah - loved all the hidden dogs after watching it all. Best video of the year for me. Going to watch it again with my partner - she really needs to see this! Lol
them same for Primal Scream with a The Cult pic...wtf?
I think that is Andy's joke. All these bland groups being interchangeable,
Right on. The Foo Fighters are pointless. I went to see them back around d 2008, or so, and left after 5 songs. It was like watching a middling cover band do generic covers of B sides.
Plus, it's increasingly obvious that Dave Grohl's "nicest guy in rock" persona is bullshit.
My Mum loved Methods of Mayhem so much so she went out and bought the album. She was confused when she got home and put it on and it didnt sound like what she remembered hearing on the telly so much so she involved me in this situation asking me why this didnt sound like the band she heard. She said its all screaming and horrible noise. Turns out she bought a MAYHEM album hahaha i loved it though haha my mum is insane! lol.
lol
😂😂😂
Early Simple Minds were great. First 5 albums
Unfortunately, they didn't know them in USA until Don't you forget about me. They don't know what they are missing...
New Gold Dream is one of the greatest albums of the 80s. Yes, by 1985 it would all go wrong but up until then they were a top band.
I think Andy hasnt listened to them tbh
@@jamesmcc5147 You made me check it out, and jfc what utter garbage.
It's not even funny in the way some cheesy 80s nonsense can be, just really, really bland and boring musical twaddle.
They had great singles everywhere in the 80s
The ads on TH-cam have become nearly unbearable. It is basically a tv channel now.
Sooooo annoying, especially the political ones.
They seem to have ramped up in the last few weeks,they're basically trying to piss you off into giving them money,can't be many takers of their 'pay for no ads' campaign.
Music can just be music. Enjoy it or not, there doesn't need to be a point.
That's true. But the band needs to represent something at the core of what they write and play. AcDc and Van Halen are pretty much cock-rock lyrically,but musically,they are fantastic because they represent blues and swing type playing mixed with hard rock,which is traditionalist. Both bands had a great live show visually too.
Bands like Bush are a corporate construct. A bunch of phones that couldn't write or sing. Grunge ain't the best music to begin with,and Bush was pretty much third rate grunge. Pointless indeed
@@davidgangemi3314 I've never been deep into Bush, however I'd disagree. I could be wrong but I don't believe they were constructed like a boy band or something. They were in other bands previously. Plus they wrote their own music. Much of today's Pop is written by 13 different people, same with many Country songs. For me, those are corporate creations. Bush, I don't see it.
Oh man, you are one of the NPCs sitting on the fence, your opinion is decided by consensus.
Whatever
@@trevorstevenson4038 seeing that 95% of the comments are lists of pointless bands, I'd say that would be the opposite of consensus. My ego just isn't big enough to assume that if I don't like something or get something, it must be pointless. Plus try this on for an idea. Even if a band just writes music in an attempt to get hits and to sell as many records as possible. Perhaps that was the point. My personal favs are far from popular music. But I'm not going to shit on others art because I don't like it .
@@sonicallydisruptive shut up
How to tell if you're in a charity shop: multiple David Gray and Dido CDs on the shelves.
The reason that so many of these bands and artists have sold so well is that the vast majority of people are not passionate about music. They just want something palatable and easy to hum along to. I love hearing your venting. Keep it up.
Well said !
That's why a small portion of artists on Spotify get most of the streams. They are cookie cutter Pop acts and the 3 major record labels have engineered it that way.
Sure the “vast majority” is the culprit, until a record sells a few million and then it must be the same vast majority at work
Couldn’t agree more! It’s like spending big money on seeing one of your favorite bands in concert outdoors and having at least half the audience sitting on a blankets with their drinks and cheese and crackers and all they’re doing is talking and talking and talking through the whole show. And the music is basically just background noise for them while they socialize. That makes me completely nuts! I won’t waste money on outdoor concerts like that anymore because I go to concerts to listen to the music, not socialize. If I want to socialize I’ll go out to a restaurant with friends and talk.
This is 100% correct. Most people aren't passionate period.
David Gray is like watching a corpse being dragged past you in slow motion, only much less interesting...
great comment.
😂
and more forgettable
Dont u dare 😂
I listened to David Gray backwards. White Ladder back to Shine. He has some good ones
I'm glad Primal Scream at least made Screamadelica with songs like "Loaded", "Movin' On Up" and "Come Together".
Snow Patrol...utter greyness
@@ToxicRazor74
Love Chasing Cars.
Can well do without every other song I've heard from them.
No, just utter shite 😉
@@CarbogggChasing Cars was a monumental inescapable worldwide hit and now I can’t quite remember which plod rock song it was and I won’t be looking it up 😂. Can’t remember any Imagine Dragons song either though they were everywhere.
Dave Matthews Band.
Guys still selling out shows
@@erichskrika4041 You can be both popular and pointless.
Greatest band ever.
@LordDipstick-b1c very true. I'm not telling anyone they are wrong for their opinion. I've just seen them multiple times and they are all incredible musicians.
@sg24336 sorry not everyone likes all the same things as you. They are all incredible musicians you like that kind of music or not. If you can't see that you know nothing about music. It's fine to dislike that style of music but to say they aren't a good band is what is laughable.
Who buys the recordings of these bands? That's te problem. and leave the Bunnymen alone.. that Liverpool scene with Teardrop Explodes etc was very beautiful......
Do the ten shitest 'reaction' videos, where a bloke in a daft hat and headphones listens to a bit of Joni Mitchell or Motorhead, having admitted he's never heard of them, and then pauses it to announce he likes their hair.
My favourite is the guy who speaks in a either a monotoneor screams at super speed, introduces the song, never pauses then says “I liked that. Tune in next time.” The video is about 60 seconds longer than the song. Which channel? Throw a dart.
@@dorn0531 Those videos are absolute slop but maybe I'm the idiot for not getting on that bandwagon ten years ago when making money out of TH-cam was still a reasonably achievable goal. Could've made a few quid out of it - easiest job ever, surely...
Why is there a picture of The Cult when discussing Primal Scream? And who thinks Bill Hicks was in The Simple Minds?...Am I missing a joke here? 😂
Yep! You are
I think I can explain the Bill Hicks one. If you look closely you can see he’s holding the mic like a pencil. Jim Kerr was famous for doing that, thus the Bill Hicks photo. Voila!
@@alanbaird82 I think the idea is to get people replying about the ‘mistake’ and keeping the channel active, to help Andy’s rise to the top of the TH-cam charts. Plus, he’s a bit of a pisstaker :)
Clearly a joke
The bands are so pointless there is no point in posting the correct picture.
Re Simple Minds, what you have missed is where they started , more alternative and a crossover of the emerging electronic music and alternative guitar rock, they then released New Gold Dream which was a stepping stone from cult band status towards “big” music. After that they went horribly stadium, so to use the term pointless is perhaps temporally correct after about 1985!
Amen to that. Up to Sons & Fascination/ Sister Feelings Call they made interesting albums sort of fusing Roxy Music and Kraftwerk with a rockier edge. Then came Sparkle in the Rain and they morphed into stadium dullards while losing their not so secret weapon bassist Derek Forbes. New Gold Dream the title track is still a cracker but the other tracks sound very dated and are indicative of where it started to go wrong
@@BarkingSpiders-km7oj Empires and Dance isn't *absolutely* worthless, but I still wouldn't recommend that to anyone, tbh - yeah, they're perhaps fusing Roxy Music and Kraftwerk, but they're decidedly worse than either - but at least E&D doesn't make me nauseated, like the later stuff - just bored.
Jfc I want to punch the people who made me check out New Gold Dream, though.
Real to Real Cacophony is a wonderfully weird album.
I must be the only Simple Minds fan to like every album, with the exception of Neapolis, but even that one has about 3-4 songs I keep going back to. From the experimental early albums to the so-called "stadium sellouts" I find their music and lyrics to be very inspirational on many levels. Here in America they only had 2 big hits but that's ok, they're my secret.
@@jerviejervie2204 the 1995 album is good, "She's a river" was a cool song.
Matchbox 20, Maroon 5, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Coldplay, Genesis post-1983, Dave Matthews Band, Aerosmith post-1985, Green Day.
and about 100 others that pretty much ruined rock music
Dave Matthew Band are the modern version of The Wurzels.
Aerosmith was better on drugs
@@LWM918 sad but true. it should have stopped about 76
Aerosmith were better when they were nonces.
Simple Minds were brilliant before they became huge. "New Gold Dream" is their masterpiece, an album full of dreamy, ethereal synth pop/wave. It's 1982 in a nutshell. And 1982 was really a turning point, right between the start of MTV and the introduction of the Compact Disc. In many ways it was the last year of progress in popular music. Btw "New Gold Dream" was one of the first CDs -- a Virgin "blue face" without barcode (and extended version of the title track). Grab it if you ever find it... it's still playable and sounds great.
New Gold Dream still in my top 5 favourite songs by SM
Good you mention Mick Hucknall: I know a guy who chauffered him around on tours. A pompous pain in the neck and bully.
My band supported Simply Red on a tour in 1989. I can concur...
Pear Jam (I have absolutely no idea why people think they're so good).
Def Leppard
Bruce Springsteen
I’m with on DL and Springsteen. Complete shite.
Foo Fighters must appear on this, surely to Christ.
LOL, I mean why any band then? Why anything? Ed Vetter is an amazing singer. Def Leppard was a new standard in the production of metal. And the Boss is legend.
FWIW I don't go out of my way to listen to any of those, like 100's of others. But why not them?
Saw them twice between 1991 and 1993 and to this day, still one of the best live band I have seen. Have they gone off the boil? Lost touch with them after the 3rd album.
I agree with you both. They are bands I heard once and had no desire to hear again.
Sorry, Andy. You lost me with that comment about Echo and the Bunnymen. They were miles ahead of the Cure and most other bands of their time.
Yeah in no way pointless a fantastic band
I never got E&TB to be honest. Find them really bland. I think The Cure are miles ahead of them when it comes to the overall sound.
@@slumdogjayIkr, the Bunnymen. Wtf
@@RogueReplicant Never really liked them. Just my personal taste but find them really bland. Snooze fest.
Good band.
I was in a LA metal band in 1989. When Warrant's Cherry Pie came out I said, "They will never take us seriously ever again". Metal died immediately, and sad Grunge rock was ushered in. Same happened to Rap with exploitation of women, raining money videos.
Metal didn't die in the 90s, that's bull. I never had any problem finding new metal in the 90s. Hair metal died, thankfully, but it needed to die. I felt that way about glam since 1986. Groove Metal, Death Metal, Black Metal, Industrial Metal, Alternative Metal, Funk Metal, and Nu Metal all exploded in popularity in the 90s. There was more variety of metal in rhe 90s then there ever was in the 80s
Coldplay, Creed, Foo Fighters. Too many to name, really.
creed.......nope the others,yeah
Creed I enjoy some songs of, but Foo Fighters and Coldplay don't do it either for me either. I get they're good at making catchy hooks, but they lack depth.
never got foo fighters.seemed like every song i heard by them,ive heard before somewere that was better
Coldplay first 3 albums that’s it
I've never detected a sincere note on a Foo Fighters record but maybe that's just me.
What's the point of ranking the pointless?🤔
Pretty much as pointless as this question, it is what it is.
It's more of a ranting than a ranking.
It's good exercize
pointlessly ranting about pointlessness, of course
The saga of Grohl/Hawkins/Foo reminds me of T S Eliot, “The world ends, not with a bang but a whimper”. Of course, RIP Taylor Hawkins. His singing and playing on the DeeGees’ covers were terrific.
They suck.
Those first two albums were great.
@@SonovaBish I bought a foofighters cd back when they were a new band, they're actually ok, I'm just drinking some beers and having fun.
@@michaelstrong4956 it's fine. I'm not offended.
@@SonovaBish I appreciate that.
Where I work the IT "helpdesk" has Jack Johnson as their hold music. I've sat at my desk listening to that for hours. Your impression of him was spot on.
Andy, you are 100% spot ON about Camel. Every word of it true. I tried for years to see something more in their music and I never managed, probably because there is no 'there' there, at least to me. Only one moment in all of their output still grabs me. The last section of the middle track of their self-titled album (I think it's the White Rider section), an interesting chord progression with good guitar melody, then it all drops out and we get that truly arresting, sweet synth-bass-sounding line, delayed guitar hesitations. That is cool, great, and if I'm honest, that is it.
Is it 'never let go' ? Thats a good song
Blasphemy! Echo and the Bunnymen rules. Linkin Park is pointless (However, let it be known I think the lead singer seemed to be one of the nicest guys ever.)
Yes, it's one of the very few things I haven't agreed with Andy so far. Echo And The Bunnymen is probably of the best new wave bands ever, better than Cure and U2 to whom they've always been compared. Their second album "Heaven Up Here" is a desert island record to me.
Echo and the Bunnymen were like a fusion of the Cure and 80s Stranglers for those who don't like anything too goth.
Agree on Echo. Can’t agree on Linkin Park. They have a following, so some bunch must like them a lot (don’t ask me why). And perhaps more people actively hate them. That being the case I don’t think they can be pointless.
Argeed - Echo& were really quite good, and genuinely new, at the time - downloaded 7 Seas only recently
Does music need to have a point though? Its kind of a random exercise to name 10 bands. Its fun, but ultimately its just kind of silly to argue about. I guess every musician gives it a good go and try to do well for themselves. You aren’t obliged to listen or like every band.
Well said.
It's pointless to list pointless bands... I think the exercise is a bit funny though, it's not about coming up with band that you hate but that nonetheless had an impact on music (even if you think it's for the worse), it's bands that could have not existed and it would have been exactly the same, no-one would have noticed.
@@WoodyGamesUK Does the unheard band really make a noise? 🤔
It's all subjective anyway. But,yeah kinda fun anyway.
It's an achievement to be a pretty decent band while being pointless. Boston. Huey Lewis and the News. Absolutely nothing - but a string of hit songs.
Huey Lewis, unlike Boston, has a flawless discography
@@joaquinlezcano2372 A good performer, too.
I consider myself a rock fan, and I can't name a single Foo Fighters song. Not sure if that reflects badly on me or the Foo Fighters.
Ignorance is never something to be proud of
We all let bands pass us by, there's not time for everything. Enjoy the bands you enjoy.
That's not an excuse to be the so-called fan that doesn't listen to any band that came after he left high school, of course.
@richardmetzler7909 Like Taylor Swift....derivative and pointless.
Foo Fighters!? Wtf!? I am proud to say I do not know one of their songs. Bland.
“What did the Foo say to the groupie while he was going at it ? Beige! I am going to paint my ceiling Beige!”
.... You're a Rocker! not a teeny bopper.
Dave Matthews Band
Maroon 5
Foo Fighters
Jack Johnson
Blink 182
Green Day
Metallica
Kiss
Oasis
Coldplay
Absolutely correct!!
Ok so what bands are you into
@@jeremyturner745 im old😘 British blues, prog rock early years (69-75) 60s pop/psych! Jazz 50s60s .. I have too many likes!! But in the 90s I lost interest in main stream music so I went back to my roots! Those bands listed are ok if that’s all you have. Too many killer bands no one knows about! Ah the hunt!😘🕊️
Addendum. Metallica hasn't been Metallica since Cliff Burton died. First three albums great, the rest shit. Other than that, the rest is correct.
Wrong
HOOBASTANK, INCUBUS, IMAGINE DRAGONS, NICKELBACK, HOOTIE& etc, THE HOOTERS, WARRENT, THE GOG GOS, FISHBONE and ALL OF COUNTRY MUSIC OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS.
Why would you throw Fishbone under the bus? I opened for them like 20 years ago, and they were the most chill, non-pompous anti-rockstars ever. They gave us a bottle of tequila and danced during our set. If being a laid-back mediocre ska band is a crime, sign me up.
@@williamdixon-gk2sk I do like sunless Saturday. Still, a bit of a one hit wonder.
@davidmorse3190 they had a few billboard hits, and they were on the soundtracks of quite a few hit films here in the states. But I obviously just have a personal soft spot for them. I don't think I've actually listened to them since the last time i watched "Last Action Hero"
Sorry dude, with William on this one. Met Angelo Moore at a great, energetic Fishbone show back in the nineties. Met him again a few years ago at a still great, energetic show. Both times he's gracious, humble, and positive, and the band had the whole room jumping.
Granted, their music is difficult to categorize, but you're way off base here.
Anything Red Hot Chlli Peppers have put out for the last 35 years … whiney and bland af
I thought actually the same 😂
Re:Simple Minds.
It was Mel's drumming that heralded the band's bland, glitzy stadium era.
New Gold Dream was their masterpiece and was preceeded by 4 quite brilliant albums in and of themselves.
The experimental, synth-driven, cutting-edge new wave went out the window with the release of Sparkle In The Rain.
U2 copied Simple Minds, not the other way around. SM were a great band. Empires and Dance, New Gold Dream are really good albums. They went a bit "Enormodome" post '85, to be fair.
Those albums are great, Kerr was both a great singer and lyricist and musically they're gorgeous. I admit I've never listened to the later albums.
New Gold Dream ❤ Dito on what you have said. Andy is wrong including them.
Yeah, Simple Minds doesn't belong on this list. Their early albums were groundbreaking and quite different from anything else being produced. And yes, they did get a bit bloated after mid eighties stardom. I think that's the only Simple Minds Andy's aware of.
Yes, Andy is completely wrong about Simple Minds, they were way ahead in the post punk dance synth genera. I saw them play The Musicians Club in Sydney 1981, it was a small venue and people were literally hanging off the ceiling. The American and Love Song had heavy play on the radio and everyone was discovering the Sons and Fascination album. Go driving to 70 Cities As Love Brings The Fall or the even more impressive Theme for Great Cities. Then came New Gold Dream. Every track is a classic and completely definitive of the era and setting the new direction for dance music to come in the 80s. By the end of the 80s they had had their moment but when they were great they were really great. Not pointless at all.
@@futurelegendfilmsAbsolutely!! 👍🏻
To me Swedish hairspray, fluff-rock band Europe takes first place in both most pointless and most hated bands. To me The Final Countdown has to be the worst, least interesting rock songs ever. And no one on earth could mention another Europe song if their lives depended on it, - that’s how boring they were.
Wings of Tomorrow is a heavy metal staple, their first three albums are quite decent.
The one about "Rock now, rock the night...til early in the morning light". I just assumed they blew up in a hairspray/lit cigarette accident and that was their only 2 songs....
As a Swede, I must agree. As a music lover, I must absolutely agree. Rgr
I always liked "Open your heart" - just for the melody though
All those hair rock bands were pointless. You could erase all of them bar Motley Crue from music history and lose nothing.
"The Final Countdown" is an excellent example of that old adage "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." God, it's so _boring_ - it goes nowhere and does nothing, but it hits every hair rock cliché (histrionic vocals, noodly solo, gloopy synths - check!) so it was a smash hit...
Spandau Ballet. They were a shite Duran Duran. Imagine how shite you have to be to be the shite version of Duran Duran.
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They had two redeeming tunes in their entire career. And now Hadley just keeps going and going and going….
So true...
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I can understand people not liking them, but they were nothing like Duran Duran! Maybe some of the early New Romantic fashion choices, but beyond that they went in totally different directions. To Cut a Long Story was ok, Chant Number 1 was good, True and Gold are classics, Through the Barricades was decent. Some so-so songs in between all of them. I think that's about it - that's their career.
When you picked Bush as your first pointless band, I laughed out loud. A British band trying to sound like a Yank grunge band. Couldn't stand them straight out of the gate. That era was a huge drag.
machinehead was sick af
I was surprised when he said they were British. I thought they WERE a Yank band. In saying that, I'd forgotten all about them until they were mentioned in this video.
@@grahamliveSame. I'd have sworn they were American.
Who is Jack Johnson?
Boxer i think
@@MrCherryJuicethat makes him a pretty pointless in this context 😏
@@kimmohietala5359 Funnily, after reading additional comments I realised that Andy was referencing a different Jack Johnson, so I deleted my comment.
exactly.
Jazz drummer?
I think Simple Minds was part of a broad movement to a sound of the times, if you actually meant Simply Red, that band is worthless. Lenny Kravitz blended multiple sounds and was given credit for that at the time, but I still agree with your assessment. I found myself frequently stopping the video to pop over to Spotify to refresh my mind as to who these bands are. I guess that act in itself demonstrates your point. Well done
I can't believe The Dave Matthews band slipped under the radar?....i just don't get them ..they have no songs and are the bland bands bland!!
I'm a friend of jam; I can listen to Phish for hours, for example. Love Moe, Umphrees McGee, etc.
But DMB is a reflexive rush to change the SiriusXM channel for sure.
They might not have been popular in the UK, I know here in Australia they weren't really a thing.
DMB hate has never made sense to me. I figure people heard crash and the space between too many times on the radio or they misconstrue the poop bus story for the 10,000th time. Either way, if you met Dave, you'd disagree. Great guy.
@@Tom-ahawk You sound a good guy but do you write good songs?
the music CAN be good, but it's not great and Dave is a mid singer and .. the fans who insist it's the best thing ever rub everyone who's going "it's just ok" a bit wrong. Carter Buford is a monster drummer though. That alone kind of carries the thing.
Would be quicker to name the bands that aren't pointless!
I’d agree that Simple Minds were bland by the time they became mainstream. Empires and Dance isn’t bland though. They were a creative leftfiled band in their early 80s period.
I'd throw in Trapt, Three Doors Down, POD; Matchbox 20, Avenged Sevenfold, Three Days Grace; All American Rejects, Disturbed, Coldplay - and the worst of ALL, Dave Matthews Band.
The spin doctors.
Ugh ! They suck !
@@carlosabad6596 indeed
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Oh man. He forgot the cunting Spin Doctors.
The only good answer among these comments
Blink 182
Maroon 5
Imagine Dragons
Maneskin
Breaking Benjamin
Creed
Poison
Skillet
Dragonforce
Bon Jovi
Honorable mentions :
Linkin Park
Coldplay
Pearl Jam
Def Leppard
Muse
Green Day
Korn
I shudder to see Maneskin being mentioned outside of Italy.
A more completely manufactured band i never seen in my life. They won the Italian music festival and you could tell it was all orchestrated, with the media pumping praises of them day and night. Even my mother knows them and she is the least one you'd expect to care about rock music in any form.
The only rock band that was ever mainstream in Italy was Liftiba but back then they had to earn it with some actually good song writing. But that isn't a requirement anymore. The media says you are famous, so you are now famous.
Oh,let you off for putting Muse in the same list as the rest 🤔
Linkin park and Korn are revolutionary. A band you hate doesn't equal pointless
You must be great fun at parties
Can't argue with these but I would include The Beastie Boys. They chose to suck.
Happy to say I have never heard of Bush.
its the end result for all men after the 3rd date.
Ditto.
Only Kate Bush ( meh )
You’re not missing anything!
bush is awesome….as it relates to dating…..😂
Primal Scream invented late 80s indie jangle-rock with their song "Velocity Girl". Then their '91 album "Screamadelica" was genuinely groundbreaking, largely due to the input of DJ Andrew Weatherall and his remixing skills. But live.... they were a bit of a mixed bag.
I have to add, though, Andy, that having a drink problem or committing suicide does not make your band NOT pointless. Not a factor.
"Nirvana"
@@jnagarya519Nirvana brought grunge to the mainstream, what are you on about
Oasis
no
Europe.
Was looking for this.
They were HORRIBLE! I couldnt stand them!
Almost agree.
But I do think Noel's mouthing off is worth something.
80% of the bands from the last 25 years
Only 80%? It's more like 95%.
70s bands are vastly overrated
Yeah Stones should be here.....
@@paulhargreaves1497 You must be a millennial without a friggin' clue.
More like 99%. I can't think of anything in the past 25 years that isn't pointless.
Great video!
Not trying to be snarky, but in what aspects were Nirvana prog-like?
Just curious to learn what i missed.
Early Simple Minds was a complete different band. And I keep confusing Big Country and Alarm.
I agree early Simple Minds were great but after New Gold Dream they became duller with each release .
They basically have three eras: the initial art rock era; becoming bigger in the synth pop era; the era after their keyboardist and bassist left after the Once Upon a Time album which went big in America, after which it became the Jim Kerr&Charlie Burchill Project. Even drummer Mel Gaynor became only an occasional drummer.
The first 2 eras have very original and strong material.
@@YtuserSumone-rl6sw I second that.
My older brother who saw bands like ELP and Yes in the 1970s maintained that Simple Minds were one of the best live acts he'd ever seen. He didn't like their records that much, though.
Every era of Simple Minds was a Xerox of another band: OMD, New Order, The Church….
Could not agree more with you Andy, the Foo fighters are completely pointless.
Primal Scream is the first one you mention that's made me choke on my corn flakes.
Yeah, I can't agree with this one. Aside from Screamadelica, which one could choose to lay at the feet of Andrew Weatherall, XTRMNTR is a top rank dance rock album, and Vanishing Point and Beautiful Future have a lot of interesting elements. There aren't many bands like them, their music does stand out, and is indeed interesting and not pointless.
I don't really agree about Motley Crue either, Skid Row, Winger, Dokken and dozens of other forgotten soundalikes are much more worthy. Also the Half Man Half Biscuit lyric "I've only got 3 bullets and there is 4 of Motley Crue". Too Fast For Love came out in 1981 which puts them right of the beginning of that scene which makes them leaders and thus not really pointless. As someone that also has a lot of Camel albums I would say Andy is on point with them!.
Also agree, they've made so many great records, I can't understand this one. You could name 100 indie landfill bands that Primal Scream tower over - why would he pick them?!
Always make interesting records changing genres at a drop of the hat. Plus Gillespie has a tendency to lose it when playing live which always gives them an edge
Loaded is a pretty good raver.
Totally agree on this. I'm presuming the uploader hasn't heard Xterminator, or else he'd be choking on his cornflakes.
Kravitz. First two albums were great - but seriously - call the lyric police!! "I wanna get away, I wanna fly away, yeah yeah.. I want to get away.. I wish that I could fly into the sky so very high..." seriously?? Almost worse than Coldplay.
Never like Lenny Kravitz. A phony Rock Star if there ever was one. His version of "American Woman" is the worst cover EVER!
There's probably 2-3 songs by him that are really good, but otherwise he's bland AF.
Bobby Gillespie was in Jesus and Mary Chain. I reckon the same people are continually replacing their Jack Johnson albums, due to everyone else in the house destroying them.
Lenny kravitz total garbage
Lenny Kravitz Sucks and Lenny Kravitz Total Garbage are both great band names!
I'm enjoying the Lenny Kravitz bashing.
He sucks.
The Simple Minds albums Sons and Fascination & New Gold Dream were magnificent. Herbie Hancock played synthesizer on the track Hunter & The Hunted.
They're trite trash, as far as I'm concerned, and I hold the people who recommend that act responsible for making me suffer through their musical drivel.
@@saintgeorge6706 You keep on enjoying them - not that I think I could stop you, but I don't even want that - but jfc it was painful - *to me* - to listen to their music.
Greenday, U2, Bruce Springsteen.
Bruce Springsteen sucks soo bad.
You obviously can't appreciate great music....Bruce Springsteen and U2 are truly amazing!!!!
Springsteen???? WTF have you been smoking!!??😅😅
Nebraska is a good album
@@cathyskywalker77 U2 suck amazingly
😂 you have the driest sense of humor... thank you for your hilarious channel 😁
Lenny Kravitz sucks.
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So does our PM.
Generic schlock rock best suited to sporting events
Kravitz is pointless, I would rather listen to a pigeon
Saw him live at a festival around 1997 - H.O.R.D.E. fest. I can't recall the exact year. He didn't even play guitar during the songs I watched - he had it strapped on like a prop. "Are You Going My Way" sounds like Frank Marino. Never heard Lenny give Frank any credit.
@@terrygrady7683 he’s both black & Jew so
Say what you want about Simple Minds and Echo and the Bunnymen, but the 80's wouldn't be quite as good without 'Don't You (Forget About Me)' and 'The Killing Moon'
Those bands records will still be Alive And Kicking many decades from now.
@@YtuserSumone-rl6sw You just reminded me of ‘Live and Kicking’, the kids show I used to watch every Saturday morning! Happy memories
Now I am hankering for some Echo And The Bunneymen
@@mikeydflyingtoaster For me the Bunnymen's best song is The Cutter. Killing Moon is a good one though.
Belfast Child was a huge hit where I grew up. That song made such an impression on me, and still does. I think any artist (or band) should be judged on his best work. And in the end bands just try to stay relevant (and make money) and that's fine with me.
Love this. First time visiting your channel. I had a good laugh. Thanks.
Yes...just comedy, but serious stuff here too
Mumford and Sons, Elbow trendy Guardian readers favourites lol
Mumford are all 'pricks' apart from Winston.😂
Are we just going to ignore Taylor Swift?
I do.
Not for political reasons.
Not really. She does not fit here for obvious reasons. Think on it a while.
Her point is to poison the fragile minds of the pointless youth
The musical equivalent of crack cocaine.
Simple Minds were a great dance club band, but right after Sparkle in the Rain (1984), they released a bunch of dull singles/albums in their quest to be a stadium rock band.
Spot on.
As for the Foo Fighters, I recently watched a disturbing TH-cam video that charted their early career support for aids denialism. It's detailed in a video on the Rebecca Watson (Skepchick) channel and was released just over a week ago.
Andy!! Simple Minds' first 4 albums are brilliant...they became, as you say "pointless" after that. But the double LP "Sons And Fascination/Sister Feelings Call" was produced by Steve Hillage is/are a masterpiece(s). Never tire of those 2 albums....at that point in time they weren't another U2, but do agree, they did turn into a U2-like stadium band post 1984 and yes.....pointless and tried to like them after that but gave up. Big Country, on the other hand, were my favourite band in 1983/84...they went off the boil after that until the 1990s were they salvaged their early reputation and their final album "Driving To Damascus" in 1999 is a must listen, especially in the light of Stuart Adamson ending his life some 2 years after this.
I sure was no Simple Minds fan at the time (they really bludgeonned us on the head with them on FM radio), but with time I came to recognize their 'soundmaking' talent. 'The Hurting' pretty much defined the 80s.
@@martinportelance138 The Hurting was Tears For Fears
So did other bands he mentions. Camel were weeks great in the 70s. But they became bland over time. I think he doesn't mean that they didn't make any great music at all.
@@punkgift ... Damn. :D
Agree Simple Minds were great until they became a stadium band and Jim Kerr got a mullet and wore cowboy boots. The sound they had on Sons and Fascination and New Gold Dream is epic, classic and timeless. It was a shame they went so corny after that.
I love Simple Minds…they’re not pointless and they made some epic music despite their big hits…the albums ‘Sister Feelings Call’, ‘New Gold Dream’ and ‘Sparkle In The Rain’ all have some great melodic epic tunes far greater than bland U2 shite
Every fucking post grunge band
Every pop punk and emo band.
Every muh bringing back the 80's metal band
Every fuçking grunge band! Nirvana and their ilk destroyed the entire rock scene that I enjoyed.
Every grunge band.
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Brilliant! Just found this and had to sub instantly and looking forward to more. The Crue segment was bang on, keep it up!
also MOBY is pretty pointless.
Totally.
Defend him for trying to be different and do soundtrack style music. Just a lot of it isn't very good.
Yeah but he definitely represents for techno.
@@buzziband9535 - LOL.... No he doesn't......
Would it make any difference if Camel had been named Dromedary instead?
No, he would have the hump in either case.
They might have had more kudos if they had instead called themselves 'Bactrian'.
@@jeffreyromain7336 Even more exotic sounding 😎😁
Camel's Breath?
Maybe that would get them over the hump...
very early Simple Minds were good but they got boring toward the mid 80's
Bloody HELL, so glad I ran into your channel mate supper funny and agreed with your picks👍🏽
Since Johann Sebastian Bach, everything went downhill pretty fast
Yeah, that Wagner bloke and that upstart Wolfie were corporate hacks. 😉
The lead singer from Skid Row?
which one?
Sure but oh, what a ride!
I have never seen your channel. This was awesome.