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Spent $2,000 cause I HATE Sanding: Orbital Sander Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ย. 2023
- Get ready for the ultimate sander showdown in this exhilarating unboxing and review video! We've pulled out all the stops and dropped a whopping $2000 on four top-of-the-line orbital sanders. This is no sponsored video, folks. We're diving into genuine, unbiased feedback on each one. From their sleek designs to their powerful performance, every detail is meticulously examined. Whether you're a woodworking enthusiast or a professional craftsman, this video is your unfiltered guide to finding the perfect sander for your shop. Buckle up and join us as we put these machines to the test to see which one comes out on top!
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Finally, after seemingly hours of scrolling… a video that talked about the “middle” options. Answered so many of my brain’s questions. I’ve owned that exact Dewalt sander for a few years and it’s useful for me (despite the noise😅) especially with the 3M sandpaper. I concur about grabbing a sample pack, world of difference and worth the cost. Thanks so much for making this video!!!!
What a great comment! Even if I’m able to help one person, it makes it all worth it. I’m glad you enjoyed the video and hope that you’ll check out some of my other videos; Cheers!
I’m a cabinet maker, sanding all day. Have the 3M 6”, is a good sander but the electronics inside are crap. First 3M lasted me a bit over a year, motor still works, electronics keep on shutting the sander down. Second 3M lasted me 3 months, than it died completely. Got 2 Festool sanders, work with no hiccups, and because I’m tired of sanders breaking down I just bought an 80 gallon air compressor and 2 pneumatic Ekasand sanders, completely different story. I have more than 5 or 6 Dewalt and Rigid laying around my shop, pieces of crap collecting dust. If you are a professional woodworker that does a lot of sanding you need pneumatic sanders. Yes it comes with a big price tag, an air compressor with a refrigerant air dryer about $6000, a good pneumatic sander $250-$300, but they work every single time you need them. I keep the electrical sanders for outside install jobs where I can’t drag the compressor with me. Good video, but stay away from 3M or you’ll spend $400 almost every year. Yes is a very good sander when it works, but the electronics inside of it are complete crap.
But once cry once… great info; don’t sand as much but if I ever do the. Pneumatic is the way to go for sure!
The shop I used to sand at used Mirka Deros I think they said they lasted them 3 or 4 years they didn't outsource anything so sanding lots of doors and birch slabs some solid surface too.
I have been following these sanders for over a year when I first heard about them. I am a hobbyist and was thinking about the 3M, but didnt want to spend the money. There are a number of Chinese brushless sanders on the market now with different names, but similar features. I bought a Phendo brand, which looks very similar to the Pioneerworks. I think these are great sanders for the money and are a huge step up from anything you would get at a big box store. I think your problem is that you should throw the included hose away. Most woodworkers have dust hoses anyways. I was able to use my hose I use for my track saw for my sander and it works great. Anyone that their income depends on their tools should definatly still get the 3M, Mirka, or Festool, but for anyone that doesnt want to spend the money I would look into these other sanders.
Also, I recommend using an interface pad when using the 3M paper. If you dont, the hook and loop on the sander will get damaged and your paper will not stick well and you will have to replace the disk.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge; cheers!
I looked at getting the MaxXT as a replacement for Mirka sanders at my job, because the Mirkas die all the time. It had a bad bearing right off the bat, so the pad wobbled and the bearing got very hot. Also, they use less common thread on their pads, so it is harder to get firmer/softer replacements. It is also very bulky and heavy compared to the 3M and Mirka. I wouldn't want to use it on anything but a flat surface. They also use an o-ring and grease at the top of the pad to help dust extraction but I think it will get very messy over time. They do have good customer support though if you don't mind waiting for the time delay between the US and China. I have heard the 3M sanders have had the same problem as the Mirkas, but 731 Woodworks said they have a new version that is supposed to take care of the issue. I wonder if the Festool ETS EC 125/3 would be the best bet for a brushless sander, since I haven't heard of issues with them dying and the price is similar to the 3M. Sometimes the Rotex 6" can be had for a good deal used, if jobs mainly consist of large flat surfaces.
Great insights, thanks!
Should have ordered a planner
Haha yeah would have probably been cheaper but always wondered and now we know :)
Good to see mini Rahim popping up in the video.
Cheers
Such a useful comparison video! I'm a hobbyist getting a first orbital so the 3M while tempting just couldn't be justified. I'll gladly live with a slightly less comfy grip with the MaxXT instead for half the price.
Glad the video helped; cheers!
I plug my Festool sanders into my Festool dust extractor and I can run them all day with no power issues and excellent dust extraction.
Yes they are expensive but they were a game changer for me.
Can’t beat festool for sure!
Thanks for this
My pleasure; thanks for the support and hope the video was helpful.
Can you use 3M sanding pads without an extra protective pad to save the disc?
I personally never use a protective pad; honestly I find the sand paper doesn’t stick to it that good anyways.
Love the video..
Thanks for the kind comment; cheers!
Whats the use of the power port on the dust extractor if you buy a cheaper sander? I guess you want to use it on the same circuit and automatically switch on and off right?
Thats a great question! Just make sure your circuit has enough amperage (AMP) to handle both at the same time. I am not an electrician but the user manual should be able to identify the amps required per tool else you will starve the tool of the power required to run sufficiently.
@@RVWoodworks i dont't know the Situation in US... but in Europa a normal outlet, works with 230v and 16A and can deliver at least 3500w (3650) the maxxt needs 350w !! So the dust extractor shoud not be over 3000w. In working Environment the cuircut breacker normaly has 25A or more. Dementsprechend on the used cables.
Great insight! Thank you
You should have bought a track saw instead of all those sanders. You can joint with a good track saw too
So true :)
Sorry, but I did not liked your video entirely, please allow me to explain: You did not analize any specs...
I did the same type of selection process two years ago, when I wanted to get a better, more effective sander.
I have had an old Bosch 5" Random Orbit Sander for about 20 years, the model PEX 12 AE, that sander is still representative of the very numerous "common" ROS in respect to the important specs, like:
Power: 380 watts,
Pad size: 5",
Orbit size: 3 mm or around 1/8".
Mechanism: An excentric mounted bearing, so the platter is "free" to spin due to the drag of the sandpaper alone...
With that type of sanders, I was able to tackle up to a medium size desk top, but not really larger jobs, like sanding a large dining table for eight people or a large piano, as it was just too slow and tiresome... forget to go sanding a long stair with more than 30 steps or a small bedroom wooden floor!
So I found all them "weak" and kind of "toyish sanders"...
Therefore, I wanted one of the newer, true
"Serious sanders",
that have:
Above 700 watts power.
6" pad size,
A much more effective 5.5 mm or around 1/4" Orbit Size...
And the most significant difference from the puny toyish 5" common sanders:
--A Dual Mode: The standard free spinning platter on the excentric bearing, AND a selectable much more aggresive FORCED (GEARED) ROTATION mode, where the motor FORCES the platter to spin thorough gears, at the same time it oscillates excentrically...
THOSE differences make it a much more effective tool for really sanding and levelling irregular or rough wood, at least three to five times as powerful, fast and effective as the common 5" sanders from DeWALT, Ryobi, Milwaukee, smaller Boschs and most others that inundate the market...
In my country, there were only three larger ROS available, the Bosch 150, the Festool 6", and the Makita BO6050...
The Festool was way too expensive for me, so it was put of the question.
The Bosch had some negative comments on Amazon about the gears being too delicate, but you cannot rule out careless or dumb users trying to change mode with the sander running, and ended up breaking the gears... and I didn't want to risk it being vulnerable.
So for me, it was the Makita BO6050, even when it is not as smooth as the Festool, its cost was less than a third. Other possible options were the Mirka, or the 3M but those were almost as expensive as the Festool, so too costly for me.
The Makita is not as low center of gravity as the 3M or the other one you tested, but after a certain "Learning Curve" and by attaching the side handle, like if it was an Angle grinder, I learned to tame it and I was using it easily and acceptably comfortably. Dust extraction with a Shop Vac type of vacuum is acceptably effective too using standard perforated sandpaper, and I guess it will be even better with the newer "mesh type" sanding media from 3M, Mirka and Bosch, but I haven't tried it yet.
It cut my sanding times to between one third to one half, so for me it is "No going back", and I only kept my old Bosch 5" because I still have a lot of 5" sanding discs, but almost always go and use the larger Makita every time.
Wow, so much knowledge, do you have a channel as well? Would love to learn more from you! I have tried the angle grinder style sanders before but just couldn’t control it as well but looks like it’s worked well for you! Thanks for taking the time and sharing your experience and opinion, cheers!
The 3M is just a repackaged Mirka. There are a couple other brands out there that repackage the Mirka as theirs too and plenty of cheap Mirka clones as well. I will tell you the Mirka and all the rebranded Mirka sanders like this are absolute crap. The electronics fry within a couple months. Mirka or which ever rebrand you buy will warranty it with another one that will just fry again .
I’ve heard similar feedback… the MAXXT is still going strong but let’s see how long it lasts.
The 3m isn't a rebranded Mirka, it's just styled like the Mirka. Mirka is made in Finland, and the 3m is made in Vietnam or Thailand. I forget which.
I believe 3M is made in Taiwan but they are both very similar.
@rahimvira yeah Taiwan sounds correct. It's been a while since I looked into the 3m sander. I run mostly Festool sanders, but I do have the Mirka Deros, and in the couple years that I've had it, I've had no issues.
If I were choosing one of the sanders in the video, I'd probably go for the Maxxt because of the lower price, the brake, and the 125/150 pad options. The 3m is close enough to Festool monies (at least it was a couple of years ago) that I'd just go with the proven Festool.
You would be correct. They are manufactured in mirka’s Taiwan branch #236. They are literally rebranded mirka’s.
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Please put chapters in your video! would be super helpful for skipping through the review.
Consider it done! Great feedback and promise to have it implemented moving forward; thank you!
Annoying to watch. HOSE
Thanks for the feedback; do you mind sharing what exactly was annoying?
MAXXT i cant find 6 inch backing plate for stick it sand paper on amazon can you help thank you
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