Personally the next time I want to hear about him being mentioned is how he walked off a cliff whilst denying he ever did anything wrong. But I suppose that's a bit sadistic, so let's just settle with hoping he feks off
I tweeted this a couple of days ago and it's pretty fitting for this: "We're more concerned with cancel culture than rape culture." The reason people go out canceling each other is because they understand the systems in place will not hold terrible people accountable, so they feel like they need to put justice into their own hands; unfortunately, it's way easier to go after people in your own communities than people with wider popularity and notoriety. A lot of heinous people get away with sexual abuse (or condoning sexual abuse) while having their platforms intact, because they know how to appeal to our own fears of being dogpiled for something seemingly innocuous we have done or could do. So while we're going after each other for being too sensitive or not caring enough about victims, there are still predators out there largely unscathed. The conversation has changed from "Let's get rid of these assholes," to "Let's concentrate on these assholes who are way too concerned with getting rid of assholes." And this is why Will Smith got banned from the Academy for ten years in the same week that Louis CK won a Grammy for Best Comedy Album.
Not to mention that Will Smith and Louis CK and their careers cultivate different audiences. Louis CK can get away with the abuse he does because he normalizes it to an extent in his "shock humor" and he plays off the culture that it creates. Will Smith is an a list actor and he's far more presentable (and marketable) than CK is, so.
Because if you live in a western liberal democracy, you don't live in a rape culture. South Africa is a rape culture. The Middle East is a rape culture. If rape isn't socially acceptable in your culture, it's not a rape culture. If you live in Canada, US, UK, Australia, etc. then rape is definitely not socially acceptable. In fact, the very accusation can destroy your life even if there's no evidence. That's not rape culture.
Ayo, Lago is a brotha? For real, as a black guy myself, I think all these kerfuffles over hair are stupid and I couldn't care less. Maybe it's because my hair is short and not very special looking but if you're not black but want dreads and have the hair for it, I say go off King/Queen/nonbinary royalty.
The dreadlock thing is really goofy to me because dreads are not exclusive to one culture. They were historically also worn by the Celtics, Vikings, various Germanic Tribes even Romans. Various groups through ancient Europe and the Middle East, not just Africa. No one group get's to claim ownership of the hairstyle. It's widespread throughout history, through most of the world, in fact.
The origins of dread locks from the earliest known use if I recall was from the folks that settled to make Greece before it became Greece. When I had made my sona whom has dreadlocks I was overly concerned about getting hate from it because I'm not black but through research I know it's not the case. What bothers me most is the fact a lot of hairstyle can be traced back to different cultures and everyone wants to pull the race card for it.
@@lazlazuli7934 Even if it is a hairstyle from another culture there isn't anything wrong with having it yourself. Many African women have naturally very short curly hair, and they get hair extensions and weaves to have hairstyle that you could technically say are European or Asian and not African, especially when African hair can't naturally be styled that way. But no one cares about that and we shouldn't care about that. It's just people expressing themself the ways they personally find appealing. Cultural appropriation is more like when you use someone else's culture harmfully or claim it as your own
@@gryaznygreeb Cultural appreciation is RAD and more people should know that there's a difference between that and appropriation, and what the difference is! (I love to share where I got inspiration from so when I pull up something from a culture in my stories I always end up going on huge rambles in my end notes about what the things are from and what it means etc etc from a historical or anthropological viewpoint.)
Look I’on like drinkin alcohol due to personal reasons but fuck it’s shit like Z.T.T. that be makin me consider goin over the brink. WHY IS THIS OUR REALITY!!!!!!
I honestly love this comment section, whenever I try to talk to anyone about furries they confuse them with dog-fuckers, but here we see furries completely clowning on zoophiles, in every furry server I've been in zoophiles are despised with a passion.
I feel this, man. I also had to suffer through a different kind of deplatforming. Something like being alienated in the furry fandom around a bunch of degen zoophiles. But that's okay. I at least enjoy my nice little friend group and some of the more outspoken furry TH-camrs, like you, Benji.
@@baalfgames5318 That is why I'm stuck between two sides. I bully zoophiles constantly on the daily, while I also have to deal with the bullying of the "all furries are zoophiles" and "all furries need to die" kind of anti-furry bigots. Although I'm DEFINITELY the sexual kind of furry who browses e621 for naked drawings of seductive furry ladies and commissions NSFW art, too, my strict moral code prevents me to get into this zoophile bullshit and keep my interest in the realm of humanoid creatures. I also do it in private, not sharing the details to the world. But this STILL doesn't stop hate to flourish and (probably intentionally) confuse yiff with zoophilia. I have Discord screenshots of the hate mob to prove it.
@@DeviantYoshie I think he's saying he was shunned in the furry fandom for whatever reason yet all these degenerates get support and are still accepted in the community by a lot of people
I said I was a furry just casually at school one day and people asked me (not as a joke, dead serious) if I was sexually attracted to animals and what animal I identified as. Broski :/
Not a furry. Know many though. Not my thing at all. Albeit it was like 50/50 from the ones who and are not. With a huge mix of diapers. All together you are a community. Loving this drama. When does season 32 come out ?
Same thing happened to me except it wasn’t at school and two GROWN ADULTS accused me of being a zoophile. One backed down after finding the Oxford definition and the other told me I was “putting words in his mouth” and I needed to learn to take a joke. 🙃
This reminds me of back in 2021 when a server made a beware on me for referencing widely-used emotes and memes, y'know, things other artists do, and because I traced one of the first commissions I ever did 2 YEARS AGO that I've been vocal about and owned up to. They went out of their way to make a channel dedicated to me and pinged the whole server for it, 6k people. When people got upset at the blatant targeted harassment and made-up accusations, they started banning people and accusing me of raiding. They were forced to delete the beware in under 24 hours and issued me a half-assed apology. The owner told me "we just wanted you to see how fast your career could end." I still do art full-time to this day, and people have stopped trying to push bewares out on me because they realized at that point that it was a hate campaign and that there was no solid proof that I was even doing anything wrong.
Things like this are why I haven't bothered much with the community at large in the last half decade. I've been around since the 90s and went to the biggest conventions pretty regularly on the east coast for like a decade.. then I started seeing how brigading and cancelling is such a thing within the community and it's just flat not worth it for me. People used to ask in the early 2000s 'Why are there so few greymuzzles running around?'. Two reasons. First and foremost, the average age of a fur is probably somewhere around 15-25. It's a young kids' game, and I'm gonna be honest, between the obvious issues of lack of similar interests/viewpoints when you're 16 vs when you're 38, the fact that you can quite EASILY be looked at kind of cringey for being 30s/40s spending all your spare time hanging around teenagers, and other similar issues... Yeah. Second, because drama. DRAMA. The community et al is FILLED with it. Great example? 2 Gryphon and the attendant drama around his ousting at Anthrocon. While I don't agree with a LOT of shit he's personally done... he was ABSOLUTELY brigaded out of his gig at Anthrocon. I say that because I literally was familiar with the group who essentially forced him out. A lot of what pushed it was because of a group of angry little screechers from the delaware/NJ area that pretty consistently used those kind of brigading/cancel tactics, and pushed the issue through the board, complaining about how bad he hurt their delicate sensibilities and 'wasn't representative of the fandom' because they didn't like him. And that's only ONE story of MANY, MANY stories over a decade and a half or more. Whatever you feel about that debacle, NOBODY can deny it was a giant drama fest, and I don't think people as a group forcing someone out that way is the right way to handle it. That's kind of what we have both a legal system and convention staff and security for. Another incident where I've had someone who happened to be (or at least TOLD me they were) trans, telling me that the LGBT movement created and owned the furry fandom and if I didn't like things about it, I should just get out of it. Nevermind that he didn't know ANY history about where it came from, or that I'd been there literally a decade longer... I should just get out of it if I didn't like aspects of it because it's now owned by that group. Okay. Really inclusive, let me tell you. Which is sad when we came from a place of including people who didn't fit in elsewhere. Again, this is why, while I still have my avatars and artwork and stuff, I really don't dabble in the community anymore. It's a pretty dismal place far too often, and has WAY too much twitter/tiktok drama for my liking these days.
Callout culture and deplatforming, in complete contrast, is pretty much a universal issue on the emo dog / furry adopt communities. Nearly all of the community has eaten itself alive at this point. A few valid cases with stuff like commission theft, animal care negligence or zoophilia art have gotten rid of a few bad influences, but among the most recent callout storms, most are just nothing. Scurry, a newer but decently popular artist was shoved off the community for sending links to shitpost Genshin NSFW to a group of 17-year-olds, while he was the same age. No callout was made towards him, but he shared the info knowingly wanting to show he'd changed, but was met with dogpiling. Another, formally Wulfui, was called out for not removing a groomer from her server despite dealing with real-life health issues and not being too hands-on with moderation in the first place. These were several-thousand follower accounts over multiple platforms too. A lot of these callouts also load the main claim with tons of unrelated claims of bad character, or minor offenses. A lot of the community has at this point moved onto the main furry fandom, the furry rave scene, NSFW furry groups, Manga styles or what I could only describe as yass girl furries. Its been super disappointing to see, seeing all the talent and unique artstyles pulled away so quickly by emotional immaturity and many of the people that leave don't end up really adapting their new communities' styles, just being there for the sake of escaping toxicity. As someone who used to be a lot more active in mainstream furry circles, its super eye-opening to see most furry "cancellations" coming by irrefutable instances of irresponsible messaging, manipulation and repeated harm.
About the dreads... As a Romanian, if someone used elements of my culture in their fursona I would be happy because they were fascinated by it. I don't really understand that much what is bad when it comes to creations (like it is a fursona) to take inspirations from other cultures.
taking inspirations from a marginalized culture is different than taking inspirations from just any old thing. if you arent black stay in your lane. or else you look silly.
@@RandomPerson-th1pu dude, it really doesn't matter, it's a hairstyle and it isn't even limited to African American culture. It dates back way farther than that and you act as if black people own it. Also, wouldn't it be considered a bit racist to limit other races from doing specific things yours does? 🤔
@@FlareLaunch Not really? I can see what you're trying to imply but that's like saying someone who isn't Aboriginal should be allowed to perform a cultural ritual specific to that region despite not having familial links to that culture or a physical presence in it. Clearly not. I don't agree with Random person 100% but I do think there is a limit to where people shouldn't take from cultures, especially marginalized ones. (ie, making a "gypsy" themed character based on the Roma, to which gypsy is a slur and they are treated like second class citizens to this very day). But the hair thing I've not seen truly verified, since locs and what society generally thinks dreadlocks are are not the same. I think it's fine to give fictional characters textured hairs, but recognize there's a lot of old history irl that might leave bad taste if handled the wrong way.
@@blackwell4701 yeah no that makes sense. In this context though it's making fluffy animal creatures using traits from different cultures--thats not like trying to perform specific rituals from certain regions without being related to it.
@@blackwell4701 Locs are not the same as performing a special ritual specific to a tribe. It's a hairstyle. The only argument I've seen made against non-blacks getting locs that makes sense is the fact that it harms their hair, which is fair enough. I'm honestly getting tired of the whole "marginalized" excused being used as a reason to be assholes towards people who genuinely like the style of a certain thing from a certain culture that isn't their own. It just comes off as racism and segregation to me. If whatever it is that they're appreciating isn't a crucial part of a certain culture that's held in a very high, sacred regard, they shouldn't be cancelled for it.
Oh boy. Recently a guy who ran and organized a regional furry chat/meetup group in my part of the US actually ended up deplatforming himself as far as I know. He was an admin of the chat until the entire thing (a SFW general furry chat) got put on a beware list because he was in charge of it. It turns out, he shouldn't have been in charge of anything, because he commissioned some EXTREMELY morbidly sus things. He left the chat to new admin after it got put on the list, and the new admin were naturally tasked with explaining to everyone why the chat had a completely new name and why their main coordinator/admin was nowhere to be found. Basically, after finding out about what happened, his own fellow admin and chat ostracized him. He didn't fight it because there was really no case for him. I'm pretty sure this isn't conventional deplatforming, but I think the new admin of the chat wanted to keep him as far away from irl minors and people in general as possible.
Amazing video as always. I don't see what you've got on screen because usually I'm sewing or drawing while listening to your videos so it was great hearing stuff from the OFF soundtrack. I also appreciate the Omori soundtrack present in most of your videos and the version of Beneath The Mask that plays as well. I don't know how much you script your videos or how much is edited down stream of consciousness, but it's great. You are truly one of the most pleasant TH-camrs to listen to regardless of each videos subject matter. Thank you.
you seem oddly underrated, seems like ive got a new channel to binge and then check every day for new uploads until i forget you exist only to rediscover you a few weeks or months later
After the whole Kero thing and my supposed friends' reactions to it(or lack thereof), I just kinda left the fandom. I still have characters and a sona, but I don't want to be around these people anymore. (Some are good I know, but... Yikes.)
Don't feel alone in furry fandom. You can try aim to be a professional public figure and maker for hobbies. Most people would ostracize them from their network.
You don't have to be in the fandom. I've got a fursona, characters and want to do my own books based on them, yet I don't consider myself part of the fandom.
Agreed, I’m not really a part of it like I used to be, I still have my head and my character stuff, and enjoy the arts n stuff, but the people tend to be ew
I myself got tangled in the dreadlocks debacle trying to defend the person who owned that character. Even pointed out that I'm a white male who Anubian Jackal fursona has dreadlocks for years and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. And of course I ended up opening the floodgates and people started commenting about how it was "cultural appropriation" and I should get rid of the dreads because I'm white. I would rather retire my character and leave the fandom, which I almost did. My fursona saved me from myself and helped me become a more interactive person who is no longer shy. If you honestly have a problem with me, a white gay male, having dreadlocks on my fursona, you can take it to the d*** bank. There are bigger issues in the world.
"only a minimal amount" - I despise the way he tries to downplay owning CP like its no big deal. Every bit of CP is directly a result of severe abuse and is incredibly serious.
Your voice is so soothing. I've watched a good number of your videos now (GREAT for watching while drawing btw), and my chill level is a solid 20 now. I can't wait to see more content from you in the future!! You are an excellent rep for rabbitsonas
A fact that people have to sorta need to realize is that most people are here for the art. As long as the artist outputs the art they want, Alot of people could not give less of a shit about if their racist or draw cub every now and then. Tho, I have to say the fact that Zaush is still having a pretty decent following is a head scratcher even to a veteran like me
Why give a shit about edgy/shitty racial takes when people whine and complain about it 24/7. You stop giving a shit once its ran into the ground, even if you're of the race being insulted. Sticks 'n stones 'n such, why get bent outta shape over mean words you should've been taught to ignore as a kid. As for the cub stuff, as long as a real person isn't involved then I don't have a reason to care. Let whoever enjoy what they want as long as it stays divorced from reality and I don't have to look at it
@@michealtaormina1561 they shouldn't have to, they owe us nothing and we don't owe them anything. We already have to many people caring about things that are irrelevant to them and other people's problems as is, we need to take a step back and let others worry about themselves
@@savvythedivineyethuggable7493 the only thing they owe is to themselves- living how they please. And likewise for everybody else around them, just carry on doing what you do as long as people aren't getting harmed. Just know not to allow yourself to get downtrodden over strangers not approving
It reminds me of a group of furries that ran a chat group that ended up getting domineered by one person who would throw tantrums if you posted the same stickers as them and would freak out over pictures of anime characters and “shortstacks” (pulling a Twitter and calling every anime character as shortstack they saw as underaged lolis) and overall being a censorious degenerate. The irony of the last part was that they also posted cub and toddlercon, and if you called out their hypocrisy would throw a tantrum and make everyone's life a living hell. That person led people to either leave the group, make one final “fuck you guys” move and go out in style, or fall in line and please the Queen bee and stroke their ego to avoid their ire. It just goes to show that depending on the circumstance, cancelation and deplatforming can just as well be used by malicious actors who want to remove people they don’t like as much as they can be used on people who commit actual crimes and should be removed. Which is kind of funny in a community that could be seen as “degenerate”, “animal f**kers”, or anything else your average everyday person thinks a furry is.
The internet was a mistake. You could say anything without real consequences you'd get if you said something at someone's face IRL. People are too able online to double down and ignore other peoples' viewpoint whatever they are. Add in how the American education system does poorly in most districts in teaching people to think for themselves critically, so as to not only uphold good takes on the world, but also substantiate why they're good in depth.
As much of a technological advancement and huge achievement as it is, it has also contributed to slowly stunting humanity’s rationality and social capabilities.
There was a fur who fat shamed and well...dumb. then again there was CreepShow Art (Shannon) who stalked another TH-camr for 8 years. But in the fur fandom, I saw the Twitter idiot who fat shamed me, whatever. Though there are moments in the moment I just rolled my eyes and commented.
Me when I commit atrocious acts against humanity, resulting in my downfall. Nice video though, this was a good take on de-platforming Edit: I also make Jpop/Jrock covers on my channel if you'd take the chance to check them out
That "Andrew K" person’s voice sounds sorta similar to my own, and the fact he’s using a first name which is basically my first name I was given from birth (Which I despise said birth name cause it honestly worsened my depression in a way.) It honestly scares me in a way that it has me questioning reality.
After a quick search around, I’ve realized the name "Andrew" is actually quite a often used name, it’s not exactly surprising but again considering how my boyfriend has a face that looks very similar to my own, it only would make sense for someone else have a voice that also sounds very similar to my own, so…..
16:16 I would say bestiality and zoophilia are different personally. Bestiality is a crime, so it’s about the law, but the law is about sexually abusing animals. Zoophilia would be attraction to animals, which I doubt everyone abusing animals has, and it doesn’t guarantee abusing animals. One is something you do, the other most likely stems from some sort of trauma and needs therapy.
I've found that "cultural appropriation" issues are most often used maliciously by people outside of the group it's supposedly hurting. Not always but a good 9 out of 10 times it's some white saviour bs to get attention/clout or an attempt to cancel someone over nothing.
What's even funnier is when white people post saying "its insensitive to ignore PoC voices" or whatever, and then seeing people of color tell em to stfu and not speak for them.
So I used to be acquainted with Khord, he was local enough that he would sometimes attend our community meets/town events that I led with a couple other admins. I stopped talking to him a few years back for very different reasons than what was stated here, but thank you for that. Never knew about it, and that reinforces me to continue not associating with him.
Being mixed -- I could tell you were black too -- is that fukky? I dunno, man - but it's hard to find black furries so when ya find em it's SO like - comfortable?
Patricia Taxxon. I refuse to let anything about Patricia slide. There's a screenshot of her sending feral NSFW to a then 15 year old minor the same day as her releasing the music album "Little Spoon", allegations of her being a sexual abuser, and a video she has made discussing the ethics of feral NSFW that feels like *_borderline_* zoophilia. I still hold a grudge, i know there's nothing left that could be considered incriminating, due to her taking full accountability and owning up to her mistakes by apologising on Tumblr, but i just feel like this is the start of something bad. She's using Autistic Spectrum Disorder to excuse very morally questionable things and people really do seem to agree with her. As someone on the spectrum i get really bad vibes from her, especially considering how i was a fan of her work since Christmas of 2022, around the time that she had released "Agnes & Hilda" I don't want anyone to go after Patricia, i only suggest watching very closely what sorts of moves forward Patricia makes nowadays, as things seem to be getting very interesting. This is all i can say, just know that google is your friend, and that if you look, you'll find.
Reminder that our rights only protect us from Government action, not repercussions from society. With the freedom of speech, comes the responsibility of not being an asshole or a downright disgusting, deplorable human being. You may have the right to say you love screwing the pooch, but we also have the right to shun you from the community if you do so... also, depending on the state you live in, you may also not actually have the right to screw the pooch... which objectively shouldn't be a right to begin with.
Your channel makes me depressed whenever i saw people saying that furry was a fetish or a sexual fandom i mostly ignored as people who said that were usually edgy 14 years old who thinks everything is cringe But seeing an actual furry like you talking about those things,changes everything,so i want to ask you,do you think furry fandom is mostly sexual,or do u think there is some hope for it to become better?
@Marxrit what are you implying by that? The entire fandom is sexualized and a certain part is more weird? Or That the fandom has a sexual side but it isn't that extreme?
I would like to say that honesty is something people care deeply about, more often than actually understanding the truth. This is how Pyro got away with it despite confessing
10:15 glad you brought them up. im a former admin. i left because i was removed from the admin team i was on there for. basically i was in FV for a solid 2 years. after i was informed on simba's ways. i left pretty much instantly
I'd love it if they took a more aggressive stance against alt right hateboxes strolling right in and setting up shop. You know, like Polybun. Not a good look.
Given the reactions I've seen of Chinese people toward pandas in western games, I'd say that probably counts as cultural appreciation as long as you don't start mixing all the asian cultures together (because a kimono is TOTALLY the same as... what's the name of that thingy Chun-Li wears, the traditional chinese dress). (And that American panda furry probably is getting a WHOLE bunch of Chinese furries cooing over their fursona on the other side of the language barrier.)
Imo, no. Its humans that give animals of a specific region some sort of cultural significance. People see an animal that is specific to their regions and tie it into their culture. But, the animal came before the people and will be there if we all disappear from the planet. However dreadlocks do have cultural significance and come from a human tradition, no? As someone outside the culture looking in, I can understand how it feels like appropriation. Furries are uhhhh not socially graceful creatures that cheapen, infantilize, or just flat out disrespect a culture by making a parody of it for the sake of their selfish aesthetic. Idk anyone else have an opinion?
@@tigerkatze9819 a quick wiki search showed that dreadlocks have been historically used in many cultures, including, but not limited to, Ancient Greek, African, Indigenous Australian, Buddhist and Hinduist. While it is important to keep in mind certain cultural aspects, I don't think it's actually a bad thing to put those traits on an oc, furry or otherwise. I also, however, can't blame the person for not knowing, because at the end of the day *it's hair*, who expects a hairstyle to have cultural significance? Dreadlocks used as simply a hairstyle *should* be fine. From what I could tell from the images shown in the video, it didn't seem to be used in an insulting way or a way to say "we as white people claim this thing"
Sadly no; he's actually an admin on a Dave and Buster's subreddit as his parole officers stupidly still let him go there from what I've heard. Plus he's still somehow managed to make it to various furry conventions.
Talking about the dreadlocks, I think you could talk about the neffertity situation that going on rn in the future It would be nice to have a video on that
@@MustardCrow theres a lot on twitter, she also admitted to both of those things on her twitter. give her profile there a look and if you cant find it, just reply to me here again and ill try to find some links for you
I really wish I chould go back to the old days of the fandom, the days where I whould watch telephone cute moments for 5 hours straight without worrying about creeps in own fucking community doing unspeakable things.
@@astron4606 you know what's sad ? I thought it was going to be something worse than that at this point that's still absolutely disgusting is it on steam or a different platform ? Just wondering because if it's on steam it'd be a lot easier to get taken down
@@astron4606 God I forgot you can get support for just about anything on patreon and I don't even know their terms and service so that might not be against their terms
Now feel free to correct me out here, but isn't zoofilia != bestiality? As in zoofilia is the parafilia and bestiality referring to the act? Provided I'm not mistaken here saying they're the same is inaccurate. Zoos need help from a medical professional. People who commit bestiality need even more help as well as some form of punishment.
oh god, I was one of the people who was trying to defend her for putting dreadlocks on the fursuit. But I've had to deal with 'cancel culture/callout' shit for so long. Though the first time was well before it became a culture. The short of it, I used to be a somewhat well known artist. A super popufur commissioner commissioned me. I did the drawing, he said he couldn't pay me because his bank account was hacked. I gave him the picture and another sketch and told him that I hope he got his bank account situation solved. Trying to be nice, right? Wrong, dude instead for some reason made FA journals on me saying that I made him feel so bad harassing him and demanding he pay me. I woke up to no exaggeration over a thousand IM's of people telling me to kill myself for being a horrible person and the like. What was really fucked up is that this person made fake logs to make it look like I was harassing him, but people should have known better because my English is near competent, and his wasn't. In these fake logs it had a lot of Engrish and all sorts of typos. But people believed I was actually saying those logs. So when I posted the actual logs of that night in my defense, dragoneer deleted the journal and temporarily suspended me. When I questioned why he was allowed to keep that fake log up and I was suspended he said "it's like you said. Those were fake. We only have a policy about posting REAL logs". I lost a ton of watchers after that and for years after had people bringing it up as if I actually harassed this guy and to this day I still have no idea why he did it. After that, I have had a few incidents of attempted cancelling. 1) I have a tribal wolf character, and since I'm not native american was being accused of cultural appropriation. The wolf character was tribal designed, but not native american inspired; it was NORDIC tribal inspired. 2) I said I have no idea what the 14 words are. Some guy took that upon himself to tell people on twitter that I was a nazi sympathizer... because I didn't know what they were? I know what they are now, but at the time I didn't so when I was asked if I supported them, the fact I didn't say no meant I must be a nazi! 3) this one's very recent because of free fur all. I said to some furs who were trying to find anyone who went there that they needed their information because they are nazis. I asked how did they know. "Anyone who went there could only be nazis" why? I don't support that unless you can prove they were nazis. The event wasn't advertised as being a nazifur con, so there's a chance that some people went without knowing people who had alt-fur ties were going, therefore trying to dox any and everyone there is ETHICALLY wrong. But nope. now I have a few people trying to add me to a nazi list again.
Jesus LoloFennec....I was once her friend on fb years ago. We would chat about stuff (mostly her obsession of Godzilla) but I had heard she had her own controversy recently.
You could also get canceled for saying you're gonna play a game that people on the Internet are saying is horrible oh wait that happened to me because I said I was gonna play the new saints row
0:06 no i dont have a twitter for the exact reason of avoiding meaningless arguments with people who i might like one second than get needlessly angry the next, only due to an opinion every man is entitled too and experience an over reactionary meltdown
The hypnotist Sappho part was a strange one. That "coming out" video she did was just so ill-advised and the video she did after that was was even moreso, being way too proud of being called a dog f---er. Then slowly losing her resolve after people abandoned her left and right for the stuff she did and continued to do afterward. Her appearance on that podcast mentioned did not do her any favors (calling it cringe-inducing doesn't nearly describe it enough). She brought it all on herself.
I think everyone knew kero was gonna be mentioned at least once.
I would be worried if he wasn’t.
Ye
Kero and other sex weirdos are the only furries I will unironically order to yiff in hell.
Personally the next time I want to hear about him being mentioned is how he walked off a cliff whilst denying he ever did anything wrong. But I suppose that's a bit sadistic, so let's just settle with hoping he feks off
I tweeted this a couple of days ago and it's pretty fitting for this: "We're more concerned with cancel culture than rape culture."
The reason people go out canceling each other is because they understand the systems in place will not hold terrible people accountable, so they feel like they need to put justice into their own hands; unfortunately, it's way easier to go after people in your own communities than people with wider popularity and notoriety.
A lot of heinous people get away with sexual abuse (or condoning sexual abuse) while having their platforms intact, because they know how to appeal to our own fears of being dogpiled for something seemingly innocuous we have done or could do. So while we're going after each other for being too sensitive or not caring enough about victims, there are still predators out there largely unscathed. The conversation has changed from "Let's get rid of these assholes," to "Let's concentrate on these assholes who are way too concerned with getting rid of assholes."
And this is why Will Smith got banned from the Academy for ten years in the same week that Louis CK won a Grammy for Best Comedy Album.
Not to mention that Will Smith and Louis CK and their careers cultivate different audiences. Louis CK can get away with the abuse he does because he normalizes it to an extent in his "shock humor" and he plays off the culture that it creates. Will Smith is an a list actor and he's far more presentable (and marketable) than CK is, so.
Because if you live in a western liberal democracy, you don't live in a rape culture. South Africa is a rape culture. The Middle East is a rape culture. If rape isn't socially acceptable in your culture, it's not a rape culture. If you live in Canada, US, UK, Australia, etc. then rape is definitely not socially acceptable. In fact, the very accusation can destroy your life even if there's no evidence. That's not rape culture.
@@shadowstar7388 You ever heard of a guy called Jeffrey Epstein?
@@goodoldelrey As soon as the story went public, people were rightly outraged. in a rape culture, people would take his side.
Wasn't will Smith banned for assaulting Chris rock though? I mean I don't know a lot about Louis c.k. but I'm confused a bit here.
Ayo, Lago is a brotha?
For real, as a black guy myself, I think all these kerfuffles over hair are stupid and I couldn't care less. Maybe it's because my hair is short and not very special looking but if you're not black but want dreads and have the hair for it, I say go off King/Queen/nonbinary royalty.
I think NB people should be with Majesty since both the King and Queen are referred to as such iirc
The dreadlock thing is really goofy to me because dreads are not exclusive to one culture. They were historically also worn by the Celtics, Vikings, various Germanic Tribes even Romans. Various groups through ancient Europe and the Middle East, not just Africa. No one group get's to claim ownership of the hairstyle. It's widespread throughout history, through most of the world, in fact.
The origins of dread locks from the earliest known use if I recall was from the folks that settled to make Greece before it became Greece. When I had made my sona whom has dreadlocks I was overly concerned about getting hate from it because I'm not black but through research I know it's not the case. What bothers me most is the fact a lot of hairstyle can be traced back to different cultures and everyone wants to pull the race card for it.
@@lazlazuli7934 Even if it is a hairstyle from another culture there isn't anything wrong with having it yourself. Many African women have naturally very short curly hair, and they get hair extensions and weaves to have hairstyle that you could technically say are European or Asian and not African, especially when African hair can't naturally be styled that way. But no one cares about that and we shouldn't care about that. It's just people expressing themself the ways they personally find appealing. Cultural appropriation is more like when you use someone else's culture harmfully or claim it as your own
@@gryaznygreeb Cultural appreciation is RAD and more people should know that there's a difference between that and appropriation, and what the difference is! (I love to share where I got inspiration from so when I pull up something from a culture in my stories I always end up going on huge rambles in my end notes about what the things are from and what it means etc etc from a historical or anthropological viewpoint.)
Black furry here. I could care less about people wearing dreadlocks. Black women wear weave all the time and we all know that isn't their real hair.
Dreadlocks are simply caused by not combing, no one "invented" them. 🤷🏿♂️
12:31 I don't consider my day to be complete without pissing off some zoophiles.
Great video, buddy.
Zoos and nonces get fukkd!
National Piss Off a Zoophile Day should be a thing.
Well done good sir
We can't expect God to do all of the work.
This didn't age well.
Zooier Than Thou is still going? And it's growing?! Well my Sunday is ruined...
We know who Toggle is. Boycott Exit Mouse and anyone who supports them until they fire his ass.
All zoophiles deserve the wall.
Well time to get my 12 gage
This isn't enough...
Look I’on like drinkin alcohol due to personal reasons but fuck it’s shit like Z.T.T. that be makin me consider goin over the brink. WHY IS THIS OUR REALITY!!!!!!
I honestly love this comment section, whenever I try to talk to anyone about furries they confuse them with dog-fuckers, but here we see furries completely clowning on zoophiles, in every furry server I've been in zoophiles are despised with a passion.
To be fair to the pizza guy, if your words are horrid, a pizza doesn't need to be verbally wooed to be topped.
I feel this, man.
I also had to suffer through a different kind of deplatforming.
Something like being alienated in the furry fandom around a bunch of degen zoophiles.
But that's okay. I at least enjoy my nice little friend group and some of the more outspoken furry TH-camrs, like you, Benji.
@@baalfgames5318 That is why I'm stuck between two sides.
I bully zoophiles constantly on the daily, while I also have to deal with the bullying of the "all furries are zoophiles" and "all furries need to die" kind of anti-furry bigots.
Although I'm DEFINITELY the sexual kind of furry who browses e621 for naked drawings of seductive furry ladies and commissions NSFW art, too, my strict moral code prevents me to get into this zoophile bullshit and keep my interest in the realm of humanoid creatures.
I also do it in private, not sharing the details to the world. But this STILL doesn't stop hate to flourish and (probably intentionally) confuse yiff with zoophilia. I have Discord screenshots of the hate mob to prove it.
@@baalfgames5318 well, most of the people they talk about are legitimately bad people, soooo… I don’t see your point
@@DeviantYoshie
I think he's saying he was shunned in the furry fandom for whatever reason
yet all these degenerates get support and are still accepted in the community by a lot of people
I said I was a furry just casually at school one day and people asked me (not as a joke, dead serious) if I was sexually attracted to animals and what animal I identified as. Broski :/
I mean you kinda deserved it
@@questioneverything6667 true but still
Not a furry. Know many though. Not my thing at all. Albeit it was like 50/50 from the ones who and are not. With a huge mix of diapers. All together you are a community. Loving this drama. When does season 32 come out ?
Same thing happened to me except it wasn’t at school and two GROWN ADULTS accused me of being a zoophile. One backed down after finding the Oxford definition and the other told me I was “putting words in his mouth” and I needed to learn to take a joke. 🙃
This reminds me of back in 2021 when a server made a beware on me for referencing widely-used emotes and memes, y'know, things other artists do, and because I traced one of the first commissions I ever did 2 YEARS AGO that I've been vocal about and owned up to. They went out of their way to make a channel dedicated to me and pinged the whole server for it, 6k people. When people got upset at the blatant targeted harassment and made-up accusations, they started banning people and accusing me of raiding. They were forced to delete the beware in under 24 hours and issued me a half-assed apology. The owner told me "we just wanted you to see how fast your career could end." I still do art full-time to this day, and people have stopped trying to push bewares out on me because they realized at that point that it was a hate campaign and that there was no solid proof that I was even doing anything wrong.
Things like this are why I haven't bothered much with the community at large in the last half decade. I've been around since the 90s and went to the biggest conventions pretty regularly on the east coast for like a decade.. then I started seeing how brigading and cancelling is such a thing within the community and it's just flat not worth it for me.
People used to ask in the early 2000s 'Why are there so few greymuzzles running around?'. Two reasons. First and foremost, the average age of a fur is probably somewhere around 15-25. It's a young kids' game, and I'm gonna be honest, between the obvious issues of lack of similar interests/viewpoints when you're 16 vs when you're 38, the fact that you can quite EASILY be looked at kind of cringey for being 30s/40s spending all your spare time hanging around teenagers, and other similar issues... Yeah. Second, because drama. DRAMA. The community et al is FILLED with it.
Great example? 2 Gryphon and the attendant drama around his ousting at Anthrocon. While I don't agree with a LOT of shit he's personally done... he was ABSOLUTELY brigaded out of his gig at Anthrocon. I say that because I literally was familiar with the group who essentially forced him out. A lot of what pushed it was because of a group of angry little screechers from the delaware/NJ area that pretty consistently used those kind of brigading/cancel tactics, and pushed the issue through the board, complaining about how bad he hurt their delicate sensibilities and 'wasn't representative of the fandom' because they didn't like him. And that's only ONE story of MANY, MANY stories over a decade and a half or more.
Whatever you feel about that debacle, NOBODY can deny it was a giant drama fest, and I don't think people as a group forcing someone out that way is the right way to handle it. That's kind of what we have both a legal system and convention staff and security for.
Another incident where I've had someone who happened to be (or at least TOLD me they were) trans, telling me that the LGBT movement created and owned the furry fandom and if I didn't like things about it, I should just get out of it. Nevermind that he didn't know ANY history about where it came from, or that I'd been there literally a decade longer... I should just get out of it if I didn't like aspects of it because it's now owned by that group. Okay. Really inclusive, let me tell you. Which is sad when we came from a place of including people who didn't fit in elsewhere.
Again, this is why, while I still have my avatars and artwork and stuff, I really don't dabble in the community anymore. It's a pretty dismal place far too often, and has WAY too much twitter/tiktok drama for my liking these days.
16:30
You know what they say, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence.
Callout culture and deplatforming, in complete contrast, is pretty much a universal issue on the emo dog / furry adopt communities.
Nearly all of the community has eaten itself alive at this point. A few valid cases with stuff like commission theft, animal care negligence or zoophilia art have gotten rid of a few bad influences, but among the most recent callout storms, most are just nothing. Scurry, a newer but decently popular artist was shoved off the community for sending links to shitpost Genshin NSFW to a group of 17-year-olds, while he was the same age. No callout was made towards him, but he shared the info knowingly wanting to show he'd changed, but was met with dogpiling. Another, formally Wulfui, was called out for not removing a groomer from her server despite dealing with real-life health issues and not being too hands-on with moderation in the first place. These were several-thousand follower accounts over multiple platforms too.
A lot of these callouts also load the main claim with tons of unrelated claims of bad character, or minor offenses.
A lot of the community has at this point moved onto the main furry fandom, the furry rave scene, NSFW furry groups, Manga styles or what I could only describe as yass girl furries. Its been super disappointing to see, seeing all the talent and unique artstyles pulled away so quickly by emotional immaturity and many of the people that leave don't end up really adapting their new communities' styles, just being there for the sake of escaping toxicity.
As someone who used to be a lot more active in mainstream furry circles, its super eye-opening to see most furry "cancellations" coming by irrefutable instances of irresponsible messaging, manipulation and repeated harm.
It's almost like the adopt community is full of underage and/or new furries who don't have the maturity to chill the fuck down.
About the dreads... As a Romanian, if someone used elements of my culture in their fursona I would be happy because they were fascinated by it. I don't really understand that much what is bad when it comes to creations (like it is a fursona) to take inspirations from other cultures.
taking inspirations from a marginalized culture is different than taking inspirations from just any old thing. if you arent black stay in your lane. or else you look silly.
@@RandomPerson-th1pu dude, it really doesn't matter, it's a hairstyle and it isn't even limited to African American culture. It dates back way farther than that and you act as if black people own it.
Also, wouldn't it be considered a bit racist to limit other races from doing specific things yours does? 🤔
@@FlareLaunch Not really? I can see what you're trying to imply but that's like saying someone who isn't Aboriginal should be allowed to perform a cultural ritual specific to that region despite not having familial links to that culture or a physical presence in it. Clearly not.
I don't agree with Random person 100% but I do think there is a limit to where people shouldn't take from cultures, especially marginalized ones. (ie, making a "gypsy" themed character based on the Roma, to which gypsy is a slur and they are treated like second class citizens to this very day). But the hair thing I've not seen truly verified, since locs and what society generally thinks dreadlocks are are not the same. I think it's fine to give fictional characters textured hairs, but recognize there's a lot of old history irl that might leave bad taste if handled the wrong way.
@@blackwell4701 yeah no that makes sense. In this context though it's making fluffy animal creatures using traits from different cultures--thats not like trying to perform specific rituals from certain regions without being related to it.
@@blackwell4701 Locs are not the same as performing a special ritual specific to a tribe. It's a hairstyle. The only argument I've seen made against non-blacks getting locs that makes sense is the fact that it harms their hair, which is fair enough. I'm honestly getting tired of the whole "marginalized" excused being used as a reason to be assholes towards people who genuinely like the style of a certain thing from a certain culture that isn't their own. It just comes off as racism and segregation to me. If whatever it is that they're appreciating isn't a crucial part of a certain culture that's held in a very high, sacred regard, they shouldn't be cancelled for it.
Oh boy. Recently a guy who ran and organized a regional furry chat/meetup group in my part of the US actually ended up deplatforming himself as far as I know. He was an admin of the chat until the entire thing (a SFW general furry chat) got put on a beware list because he was in charge of it. It turns out, he shouldn't have been in charge of anything, because he commissioned some EXTREMELY morbidly sus things.
He left the chat to new admin after it got put on the list, and the new admin were naturally tasked with explaining to everyone why the chat had a completely new name and why their main coordinator/admin was nowhere to be found.
Basically, after finding out about what happened, his own fellow admin and chat ostracized him. He didn't fight it because there was really no case for him.
I'm pretty sure this isn't conventional deplatforming, but I think the new admin of the chat wanted to keep him as far away from irl minors and people in general as possible.
is this the KCfur chat?
...Dreads on a fursuit? Really? There's...literally nothing wrong with that..
What gets me is its an anthro character, not even a human. Thats a non-issue lol
Amazing video as always. I don't see what you've got on screen because usually I'm sewing or drawing while listening to your videos so it was great hearing stuff from the OFF soundtrack. I also appreciate the Omori soundtrack present in most of your videos and the version of Beneath The Mask that plays as well. I don't know how much you script your videos or how much is edited down stream of consciousness, but it's great. You are truly one of the most pleasant TH-camrs to listen to regardless of each videos subject matter. Thank you.
you seem oddly underrated, seems like ive got a new channel to binge and then check every day for new uploads until i forget you exist only to rediscover you a few weeks or months later
After the whole Kero thing and my supposed friends' reactions to it(or lack thereof), I just kinda left the fandom. I still have characters and a sona, but I don't want to be around these people anymore.
(Some are good I know, but... Yikes.)
Don't feel alone in furry fandom. You can try aim to be a professional public figure and maker for hobbies. Most people would ostracize them from their network.
You don't have to be in the fandom. I've got a fursona, characters and want to do my own books based on them, yet I don't consider myself part of the fandom.
I don't feel alone, and I'd also rather just not label myself a furry, thanks to the connotations.
Agreed, I’m not really a part of it like I used to be, I still have my head and my character stuff, and enjoy the arts n stuff, but the people tend to be ew
I was terrified to come out as a furry for YEARS because of people like Kero. I still don't know if I can trust other furries.
I myself got tangled in the dreadlocks debacle trying to defend the person who owned that character. Even pointed out that I'm a white male who Anubian Jackal fursona has dreadlocks for years and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. And of course I ended up opening the floodgates and people started commenting about how it was "cultural appropriation" and I should get rid of the dreads because I'm white.
I would rather retire my character and leave the fandom, which I almost did. My fursona saved me from myself and helped me become a more interactive person who is no longer shy.
If you honestly have a problem with me, a white gay male, having dreadlocks on my fursona, you can take it to the d*** bank. There are bigger issues in the world.
"only a minimal amount" - I despise the way he tries to downplay owning CP like its no big deal. Every bit of CP is directly a result of severe abuse and is incredibly serious.
Yeah, I actually don't understand why people think that it's any sort of okay.
"Only a minimal amount of CP" BITCH IN WHAT WORLD, IF YOU EVEN HAVE ONE IMAGE OF CP, I'M INSTANTLY SUSSING YOU OUT
the great algorithm, Praise be, has decided that i need to be a furry and know about cancel culture today
Your voice is so soothing. I've watched a good number of your videos now (GREAT for watching while drawing btw), and my chill level is a solid 20 now. I can't wait to see more content from you in the future!! You are an excellent rep for rabbitsonas
9:53 for the locks thing like… if we don’t know anything about the person who owns the suit can we really even say anything???
A fact that people have to sorta need to realize is that most people are here for the art.
As long as the artist outputs the art they want, Alot of people could not give less of a shit about if their racist or draw cub every now and then. Tho, I have to say the fact that Zaush is still having a pretty decent following is a head scratcher even to a veteran like me
Why give a shit about edgy/shitty racial takes when people whine and complain about it 24/7. You stop giving a shit once its ran into the ground, even if you're of the race being insulted. Sticks 'n stones 'n such, why get bent outta shape over mean words you should've been taught to ignore as a kid. As for the cub stuff, as long as a real person isn't involved then I don't have a reason to care. Let whoever enjoy what they want as long as it stays divorced from reality and I don't have to look at it
the fact that people just dont care is honestly insulting
@@michealtaormina1561 they shouldn't have to, they owe us nothing and we don't owe them anything. We already have to many people caring about things that are irrelevant to them and other people's problems as is, we need to take a step back and let others worry about themselves
@@ashemabahumat4173 I'm pretty sure they owe enough to be a good person. Being morally decent isn't a fucking business deal.
@@savvythedivineyethuggable7493 the only thing they owe is to themselves- living how they please. And likewise for everybody else around them, just carry on doing what you do as long as people aren't getting harmed. Just know not to allow yourself to get downtrodden over strangers not approving
I actually wanted to put dreads on my character, but that idea slowly died.
Oh, didn't know you were black. As another random black dude on the internet, I agree, dreads on a suits is literally nothing
It reminds me of a group of furries that ran a chat group that ended up getting domineered by one person who would throw tantrums if you posted the same stickers as them and would freak out over pictures of anime characters and “shortstacks” (pulling a Twitter and calling every anime character as shortstack they saw as underaged lolis) and overall being a censorious degenerate.
The irony of the last part was that they also posted cub and toddlercon, and if you called out their hypocrisy would throw a tantrum and make everyone's life a living hell.
That person led people to either leave the group, make one final “fuck you guys” move and go out in style, or fall in line and please the Queen bee and stroke their ego to avoid their ire.
It just goes to show that depending on the circumstance, cancelation and deplatforming can just as well be used by malicious actors who want to remove people they don’t like as much as they can be used on people who commit actual crimes and should be removed.
Which is kind of funny in a community that could be seen as “degenerate”, “animal f**kers”, or anything else your average everyday person thinks a furry is.
This is why Twitter is cancer
Because so many people are happy to accept that cancer
Hey now, that makes Cancer look bad :( lmao
give this man a checkmark next to his name, he's already got the key to my friendship
The internet was a mistake. You could say anything without real consequences you'd get if you said something at someone's face IRL.
People are too able online to double down and ignore other peoples' viewpoint whatever they are.
Add in how the American education system does poorly in most districts in teaching people to think for themselves critically, so as to not only uphold good takes on the world, but also substantiate why they're good in depth.
As much of a technological advancement and huge achievement as it is, it has also contributed to slowly stunting humanity’s rationality and social capabilities.
13:00 Not me thinking him saying "barbs" was him refering to Nicki Minaj stans 😭😭
There was a fur who fat shamed and well...dumb. then again there was CreepShow Art (Shannon) who stalked another TH-camr for 8 years. But in the fur fandom, I saw the Twitter idiot who fat shamed me, whatever. Though there are moments in the moment I just rolled my eyes and commented.
Me when I commit atrocious acts against humanity, resulting in my downfall. Nice video though, this was a good take on de-platforming
Edit: I also make Jpop/Jrock covers on my channel if you'd take the chance to check them out
I'm glad I found you. I've been out of the furry fandom for ten or so years. It's nice to have a furry history channel to see what chaos I've missed.
0:15 MAN C'MON
Also first
Didn’t realize Misha would be here.
That "Andrew K" person’s voice sounds sorta similar to my own, and the fact he’s using a first name which is basically my first name I was given from birth (Which I despise said birth name cause it honestly worsened my depression in a way.)
It honestly scares me in a way that it has me questioning reality.
It’s a coincidence that we have the same name.
After a quick search around, I’ve realized the name "Andrew" is actually quite a often used name, it’s not exactly surprising but again considering how my boyfriend has a face that looks very similar to my own, it only would make sense for someone else have a voice that also sounds very similar to my own, so…..
13:04 didn’t khord want to bring his children to a baby fur con
It was a meet up but still. Bad parent moment.
Also FUCK youre gonna summon him.
He has children? I feel terrible for them, he's probably touched them...
Wait, he has kids!? Oh no…
A *what* con?
He has *k i d s ? ?*
16:16 I would say bestiality and zoophilia are different personally. Bestiality is a crime, so it’s about the law, but the law is about sexually abusing animals. Zoophilia would be attraction to animals, which I doubt everyone abusing animals has, and it doesn’t guarantee abusing animals. One is something you do, the other most likely stems from some sort of trauma and needs therapy.
9:49 as another black furry myself, same
I've found that "cultural appropriation" issues are most often used maliciously by people outside of the group it's supposedly hurting. Not always but a good 9 out of 10 times it's some white saviour bs to get attention/clout or an attempt to cancel someone over nothing.
@@LilacMonarch Facts
0:22 Damn, busting out the astral finish on their ass
Wanted to let you Sappho back on vrc under her Val name
Okay, gotta straight up say it:
I love the new TH-cam profile image!^~^
Breathes....
Rando: How dare you! Reeeeeeee!
The dreads on the fursuit controversy was just silly. It's just hair and as far as I can tell didn't even originate from black people
What's even funnier is when white people post saying "its insensitive to ignore PoC voices" or whatever, and then seeing people of color tell em to stfu and not speak for them.
Agreeded
So I used to be acquainted with Khord, he was local enough that he would sometimes attend our community meets/town events that I led with a couple other admins. I stopped talking to him a few years back for very different reasons than what was stated here, but thank you for that. Never knew about it, and that reinforces me to continue not associating with him.
All I can focus on is that background-
and noticing some of the movements aren't synchronised
i have no idea why i commented this
Being mixed -- I could tell you were black too -- is that fukky? I dunno, man - but it's hard to find black furries so when ya find em it's SO like - comfortable?
im mixed too lmao
@@purllow Woo! Mixed kids rise up!
I'm also mixed
@@fascistwhiterunguard7919 Nice!
Someone: *something related to dreads
Everyone else: *Metal Gear Alert sound effect*
Looks like I managed to beat your notification bot (for once).
Patricia Taxxon. I refuse to let anything about Patricia slide. There's a screenshot of her sending feral NSFW to a then 15 year old minor the same day as her releasing the music album "Little Spoon", allegations of her being a sexual abuser, and a video she has made discussing the ethics of feral NSFW that feels like *_borderline_* zoophilia.
I still hold a grudge, i know there's nothing left that could be considered incriminating, due to her taking full accountability and owning up to her mistakes by apologising on Tumblr, but i just feel like this is the start of something bad. She's using Autistic Spectrum Disorder to excuse very morally questionable things and people really do seem to agree with her. As someone on the spectrum i get really bad vibes from her, especially considering how i was a fan of her work since Christmas of 2022, around the time that she had released "Agnes & Hilda"
I don't want anyone to go after Patricia, i only suggest watching very closely what sorts of moves forward Patricia makes nowadays, as things seem to be getting very interesting.
This is all i can say, just know that google is your friend, and that if you look, you'll find.
Lago: "...as some random black dude on the internet..."
Me: My man 👉
I JUST NOTICED YOU USED OFF MUSIC!!!!! Based lego
"Have you ever just...looked at someone?"
Why, yes.
Reminder that our rights only protect us from Government action, not repercussions from society. With the freedom of speech, comes the responsibility of not being an asshole or a downright disgusting, deplorable human being. You may have the right to say you love screwing the pooch, but we also have the right to shun you from the community if you do so... also, depending on the state you live in, you may also not actually have the right to screw the pooch... which objectively shouldn't be a right to begin with.
Well spoken.
What you don't just watch Cat mating videos for fun?
Thats TOTALLY NORMAL I swear
Your channel makes me depressed whenever i saw people saying that furry was a fetish or a sexual fandom i mostly ignored as people who said that were usually edgy 14 years old who thinks everything is cringe
But seeing an actual furry like you talking about those things,changes everything,so i want to ask you,do you think furry fandom is mostly sexual,or do u think there is some hope for it to become better?
@Marxrit what are you implying by that?
The entire fandom is sexualized and a certain part is more weird?
Or
That the fandom has a sexual side but it isn't that extreme?
Boy howdy am I gonna have a fun time with this when I can get back to editing videos.
"as a random black dude"
YOURE WHAT
Im gonna do the self De-platform speedrun any %
IS THAT OFF MUSIC I HEAR?
Edit: LISA: The Painful too if I'm correct?
I would like to say that honesty is something people care deeply about, more often than actually understanding the truth. This is how Pyro got away with it despite confessing
Rip messy tails he really took Duke nukems advice to heart when he said "eat shit and die"
I love you Lago
But this CoyoteLovely thing aged really well
10:15 glad you brought them up. im a former admin. i left because i was removed from the admin team i was on there for. basically i was in FV for a solid 2 years. after i was informed on simba's ways. i left pretty much instantly
Malicous Callouts
Mcyt community: *sweats profusely*
I'd love it if they took a more aggressive stance against alt right hateboxes strolling right in and setting up shop. You know, like Polybun. Not a good look.
If an American furry chooses to be a panda bear, is it cultural appropriation?
Given the reactions I've seen of Chinese people toward pandas in western games, I'd say that probably counts as cultural appreciation as long as you don't start mixing all the asian cultures together (because a kimono is TOTALLY the same as... what's the name of that thingy Chun-Li wears, the traditional chinese dress).
(And that American panda furry probably is getting a WHOLE bunch of Chinese furries cooing over their fursona on the other side of the language barrier.)
Imo, no. Its humans that give animals of a specific region some sort of cultural significance. People see an animal that is specific to their regions and tie it into their culture. But, the animal came before the people and will be there if we all disappear from the planet.
However dreadlocks do have cultural significance and come from a human tradition, no? As someone outside the culture looking in, I can understand how it feels like appropriation. Furries are uhhhh not socially graceful creatures that cheapen, infantilize, or just flat out disrespect a culture by making a parody of it for the sake of their selfish aesthetic. Idk anyone else have an opinion?
@@tigerkatze9819 a quick wiki search showed that dreadlocks have been historically used in many cultures, including, but not limited to, Ancient Greek, African, Indigenous Australian, Buddhist and Hinduist. While it is important to keep in mind certain cultural aspects, I don't think it's actually a bad thing to put those traits on an oc, furry or otherwise. I also, however, can't blame the person for not knowing, because at the end of the day *it's hair*, who expects a hairstyle to have cultural significance?
Dreadlocks used as simply a hairstyle *should* be fine. From what I could tell from the images shown in the video, it didn't seem to be used in an insulting way or a way to say "we as white people claim this thing"
Nope
7:19 if Kero still has a TH-cam channel then he wasn’t deplatformed. To he deplatformed means to be taken off the platform.
Would AlmightyTora count? I know he was arrested but that could technically be considered de platforming
Sadly no; he's actually an admin on a Dave and Buster's subreddit as his parole officers stupidly still let him go there from what I've heard. Plus he's still somehow managed to make it to various furry conventions.
16:31 i second that question. Why indeed? :thinking:
Talking about the dreadlocks, I think you could talk about the neffertity situation that going on rn in the future
It would be nice to have a video on that
WHAT HAPPENED TO NEFFERTITY???
@@MustardCrow she made an oc that was basically a stereotype of a native american person and victim blamed a grooming victim
@@manymantids Do you have any pictures or screenshots?? I would like to see them.
@@MustardCrow theres a lot on twitter, she also admitted to both of those things on her twitter. give her profile there a look and if you cant find it, just reply to me here again and ill try to find some links for you
@@manymantids Oh ya I see it but that annoying “Twitter make an account” pop up keeps popping up oof. I don’t have Twitter anymore.
I really wish I chould go back to the old days of the fandom, the days where I whould watch telephone cute moments for 5 hours straight without worrying about creeps in own fucking community doing unspeakable things.
If anyone in this community has sanity you'll stop the game "Hunt and snare" from existing
What is that exactly ?
@@thenameismary4874 A game where women are treated as animals, hunted and raped
@@astron4606 you know what's sad ? I thought it was going to be something worse than that at this point that's still absolutely disgusting is it on steam or a different platform ? Just wondering because if it's on steam it'd be a lot easier to get taken down
@@thenameismary4874 At this point, all there is is a patreon page with like 3000 patrons or something
backing it
@@astron4606 God I forgot you can get support for just about anything on patreon and I don't even know their terms and service so that might not be against their terms
"what the fuck is our fandom doing"
I ask the same question...
Now feel free to correct me out here, but isn't zoofilia != bestiality?
As in zoofilia is the parafilia and bestiality referring to the act?
Provided I'm not mistaken here saying they're the same is inaccurate.
Zoos need help from a medical professional.
People who commit bestiality need even more help as well as some form of punishment.
I had no idea Zaush did cub stuff... then again I didn't know who they were either, judt their art. Feel kinda icky now.
Just noticed you used the off ost in your video, very cool
speaking of Khord Kitty, why is his Twitter still active!?
Ahh yes Khord. Unfortunately was yoinked into a debate with him and the entire argument hurt muh *brain-*
Your background is incredible while tripping...
Do you use the Library Of Ruina OST in your videos? Good taste.
oh god, I was one of the people who was trying to defend her for putting dreadlocks on the fursuit.
But I've had to deal with 'cancel culture/callout' shit for so long. Though the first time was well before it became a culture. The short of it, I used to be a somewhat well known artist. A super popufur commissioner commissioned me. I did the drawing, he said he couldn't pay me because his bank account was hacked. I gave him the picture and another sketch and told him that I hope he got his bank account situation solved. Trying to be nice, right?
Wrong, dude instead for some reason made FA journals on me saying that I made him feel so bad harassing him and demanding he pay me. I woke up to no exaggeration over a thousand IM's of people telling me to kill myself for being a horrible person and the like. What was really fucked up is that this person made fake logs to make it look like I was harassing him, but people should have known better because my English is near competent, and his wasn't. In these fake logs it had a lot of Engrish and all sorts of typos. But people believed I was actually saying those logs.
So when I posted the actual logs of that night in my defense, dragoneer deleted the journal and temporarily suspended me. When I questioned why he was allowed to keep that fake log up and I was suspended he said "it's like you said. Those were fake. We only have a policy about posting REAL logs".
I lost a ton of watchers after that and for years after had people bringing it up as if I actually harassed this guy and to this day I still have no idea why he did it.
After that, I have had a few incidents of attempted cancelling.
1) I have a tribal wolf character, and since I'm not native american was being accused of cultural appropriation. The wolf character was tribal designed, but not native american inspired; it was NORDIC tribal inspired.
2) I said I have no idea what the 14 words are. Some guy took that upon himself to tell people on twitter that I was a nazi sympathizer... because I didn't know what they were? I know what they are now, but at the time I didn't so when I was asked if I supported them, the fact I didn't say no meant I must be a nazi!
3) this one's very recent because of free fur all. I said to some furs who were trying to find anyone who went there that they needed their information because they are nazis. I asked how did they know. "Anyone who went there could only be nazis" why? I don't support that unless you can prove they were nazis. The event wasn't advertised as being a nazifur con, so there's a chance that some people went without knowing people who had alt-fur ties were going, therefore trying to dox any and everyone there is ETHICALLY wrong. But nope. now I have a few people trying to add me to a nazi list again.
Managed to complain more than i thought was possible in just the first 28 seconds. Impressive.
This is kinda unrelated, but what are your thoughts on the current Puppychan situation? Will you be doing a video on it?
oh yeah, this was made just before puppychan... happened
Jesus LoloFennec....I was once her friend on fb years ago. We would chat about stuff (mostly her obsession of Godzilla) but I had heard she had her own controversy recently.
if only i could find a furry roleplay server that isnt full of creeps.
Fellow HK fan I see.
@@savvythedivineyethuggable7493 Ah, another person of culture
Who the hell was the green screen guy sprinting through the screen wth 1:53
1:50 THERE HE GOES
Ah yeah, the dreads incident from March...
I recommend translating the first word of the description
sounds like a twitter user problem. couldn't be me.
You could also get canceled for saying you're gonna play a game that people on the Internet are saying is horrible oh wait that happened to me because I said I was gonna play the new saints row
0:06
no i dont have a twitter for the exact reason of avoiding meaningless arguments with people who i might like one second than get needlessly angry the next, only due to an opinion every man is entitled too and experience an over reactionary meltdown
The hypnotist Sappho part was a strange one. That "coming out" video she did was just so ill-advised and the video she did after that was was even moreso, being way too proud of being called a dog f---er. Then slowly losing her resolve after people abandoned her left and right for the stuff she did and continued to do afterward. Her appearance on that podcast mentioned did not do her any favors (calling it cringe-inducing doesn't nearly describe it enough). She brought it all on herself.
i think being mix furry is probably better and stay in furry fandom is probably not a good idea for me at least
Bruh dreadlocks have been in many white cultures too don’t even lmao, these people are nuts who canceled that woman,
Your fursona is adorable omg
I'm black, got no problem with the dreads