She had everything in her life.she brought her first house and she threw it all away with her murderous acts that she did against babies that couldn't fight back.she didn't pick her own size because she knew that she wouldn't of stood a chance instead she chose new born babies that needed her to take care of them.oh how I hope she has a super time in prison.i have to literally shut my mind down because I can't bear what she did to those defenseless beautiful babies.if I feel like this dear god imagine how the parents feel! Truly heartbreaking 😞😔
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast for sure I don't think I will ever get my head around what she has done.she could of had it all but she chose to throw it all away with her murderous acts of killing defenseless beautiful babies that couldn't fight back.awful truly truly awful 😔
@@charisse234 I feel physically sick & literally feel pain throughout my body to even think of what those poor helpless little babes had to endure, not even understanding what was happening to them in their tragically short time in this sick world & not being able to fight back 😥 Just so awful & unthinkable 😓
If she doesn't look like a criminal, what does a criminal look like from a simple picture?. She was jealous because she wasn't married or had kids, she wasn't even pretty in some pictures. The babies and the parents had something she wanted but didn't have, a happy family.
I’m a retired NICU nurse. She wanted to be with the “ sickest” babies in her level of NICU. In the US there are basically 4 levels of care. Level 1: well babies, Level 2: premature infants or infants with issues, ie respiratory, jaundice etc, from 32 weeks gestation up, Level 3: infants from 24 weeks up requiring higher intensity of care, intubation, chest tubes, etc. these infants are obviously at higher risk of having medical issues. Level 4. Only a few hospitals have level 4 status. Any age infant requiring complicated surgery, ie cardiac surgery. A level 3 NICU has level 3 and level 2 infants in it. Many of the infants Lucy letby attacked were very stable 32 week twins and triplets. In my experience natural triplets do very well. They were stable and doing well when she killed two of them. It sounds like they may have been a level 3 initially but then the doctor downgraded to a level 2 because of all the incidents? But many of the infants sounded like they were around the 32 weeks and up and stable. We would not expect them to die. Once in awhile there could be a death unexpectedly, but this was usually due to sepsis, Nec, or rare underlying medical condition. We would not see the amount of deaths that were occuring due to Lucy Letbys killings. I can’t believe the management covered that up!!
As American NON medical professional (I was in a laboratory specialty years back) I'd like to thank you and all the good nurses throughout the planet for being hard working. No way I could do that job without the stress and tears of constant sickness and death. I still can't bring myself to believe this woman was this sick and heartless. Maybe she was trying to play games and save them...but even that is high level psychopathy imo. I hope I never need hospital help until Im knocking on death's door or too old. In NYC, some of the doctors themselves seem next level socio/psychopaths. Scary world we live in.
Lot of me wonders if she’s been used as a scapegoat to some extent to cover up internal failings. What does make me think she is guilty is her attitude of being beyond reproach & any/all scrutiny, to the point where she made management give her a written apology when they initially suggested she was responsible for injuries. If I put myself in her position, even with one death on my watch I’d be doing a whole lot of self reflection about what I could have done better. 2 deaths? I’d be seriously considering whether I was fit to continue in that job instead of demanding written apologies. I know nothing about this sort of nursing but this is my opinion as a layman.
She blamed colleagues ,also why did unexplainable deaths stop when she was removed from the unit,taking (your not allowed) home medical notes and ,handover sheets, I don't think any appeal will work,the police have been diligent .
Ted Bundy was in college when he committed his first murder, Russell Williams was 40 years old, his methods were all different, Lucy waited as well until it hit her one day that babies couldn't fight back. If she had used repeated methods, they would have noticed sooner if she had used the same method over and over, so she varied her methods but still the same venerable babies. What I think, completely my thoughts is that she was always rescued by her parents, and she played the helpless little girl card, just think for a second, in the witness box she had a "comfort blanket" what 33-year-old woman holds a comfort blanket. She was clearly playing the little girl as she did with her parents. Not all Serials killed kittens when they were young. but they sure thought about it. Cary Stayner never killed an animal or human until he was 31. He said he just held it in until he couldn't anymore. Women serials can be very very cunning. PS: your a good storyteller. Love it.
I agree William, this whole case is baffling. She doesn't seem the type at all to commit these crimes. The most plausible explanation is that she loved the drama and also craved attention of a male doctor. But who knows, and I guess we'll probably never know. Heard interviews from the parents last night and the details were truly horrifying.
@danswhite8544and what type are the Administrators who turned a blind eye in order to maintain their tick box system? In my view they are guilty of corporate manslaughter.
Been away a while following some pretty serious surgery on my brain (I followed your channel from pretty early on). Great to see you're still making the content and still smashing it. Hope you and yours are doing well. Letby will be doing the hardest time of all.
Please scroll through, find my comments... Essentially you have 2 investigations that went on, which is why it took so long to get to court, each case was medically investigated, individually, on a case by case basis. Entirely blind, no names of any medical staff were given to the Dr investigating. The medical investigation is also entirely independent from the hospital. involved. I have posted a 20 minute video with the Dr who traced what happened, when it happened, how it happened. None of the deaths were accidental, or malpractice, the causes of death had to be caused by sabotage. The Police investigation and the medical investigation... Both draw the same conclusions.. I wish people would research just exactly what they are defending...
I worked with consultants and in hospitals most of my working life. The managers 🙄 how do they ever get those jobs! And the salaries 😞. I beggars belief that they didn't give any credence to the doctors and staff that worked with her and ACTUALLY SIDED WITH HER I 🥵 YES you are right. This note tells a lot more than people are saying. When i look at Lucy intuitively, i see a girl that has two personas. The good child and its best friend a hidden evil monster. You have a really nice voice by the way 😊 It is good to listen to your take on this through instinctual eyes rather than psychological profiling.
The NHS, unfortunately, is run by clowns. The meetings I used to sit in on were some of the most pointless wastes of my life. and there were sooo many of them. Thanks, I'm going to be doing some crime fiction soon too, you may enjoy listening to that.
Hang On ! The Whole Case Is Flawed With Speculation From All Angles Even The JUDGE Eluding To Premature Baby's 1Day And 2Days Old Murdered / Very Hard To Grasp Such Allegation's And Belief / The WHOLE Area Of This Trust And Staff Need Investigating / Very Suspicious State Of Affairs / Not Convinced At All / Serious Case Review Should Be Initiated / Period .
@@AndyT-np8mm Because the NHS is being deliberately underfunded or the funding is being directed to 'managers'? I noted the managers were more worried about the Trust and its reputation than the actual lives/deaths of the babies. Very sad and corrupt.
The fact that deaths mysteriously stopped occurring on the unit whenever she wasn't around, convinced the jury. That's all that matters. Our opinion is irrelevant.
Lucy Letby, an only child brought up by doting parents, knows for sure that as soon as she is let free in to the mainstream female inmates, they will seek to vent their rage - pls remember those inmates have full access to media - the tabloid press are proficient in touching our raw emotions. Even the prison guards will hold a burning fire of rage… she harmed the most vulnerable of our society. If I was a prison guard, trust me I’d look the other way if anything kicked off. So Will, I can imagine the stress in Lucy’s mind is immense as she knows something will most definitely happen whilst inside for a WHOLE LIFE TERM.
She either snapped for some reason, or she has been killing for much longer than we know yet. I do think her relationship with her parents is dysfunctional. Sounds like they did too much for her. Perhaps she felt she had no power or control? Or maybe she is just what she said she is, evil?!
Dear Will, what a masterpiece assessment on the most tragic event I have experienced thus far in my life. You touched on so many points missed by mainstream and social media. Your highly valued account has been thoughtfully infused with personal experiences delivered in a way EVERYTHING is understood and felt through your narration. Trust me, your insight and delivery is far superior than any other account of this awful tragedy. If only the mainstream media could invite you to the television studio as a guest and air on national TV. Your account is for the mainstream British/World public. I learned so much from your valued insight of the tragedy. Thank you Will.
Oh. My. Wow.... 😮😮😮 I just read your profile on TH-cam, and I'm completely dumbfounded. You're an incredible person. Thank you so much for sharing your honest life ❤❤❤
thanks, I went in the wrong direction for a long period of my life. I tell these stories now to give others an insight into what my time inside was like.
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast God Bless you, hon 🙏🙏🙏 I'm a recovering alcoholic and drug addict, and had thing's gone even slightly differently, I would have ended up in your position. I truly appreciate your honesty and strength to share your experience.
Hospital management should be in charge. They just sacrificed one person. Her psycho gradually lead her to this point. It wasn't like an evil, hide herself and they caught her.
Its not easy to say yes or no. When it comes to clinical point of view and patient records its not easy to make this type of judgment. Do u know how many patient they see every day! Im not saying she wasn't guilty. But I dont think she was that evil! Neglectful, not experienced, in clinic and practical its easy to forget something or doing mistakes... lots of things going on. Listening to her responds to the judge, there is no enough evidence to say she is evil, straight away.
I totally agree with this. I think she wanted what these families had and didn't believe she'd ever get it. The jealousy was eating her up inside and turned into sadism and revenge.
She didn't look like a criminal that's what makes her so dangerous. She was infatuated with the doctor and was looking for attention from him. I still think she has some mental illness im not saying that is a excuse there's lot's and people that have a mental illness that don't commit crime.
She makes me absolutely horrendously physically and emotionally ill. She is just so absolutely disgusting. My God. So so SO many of us have had difficult lives, we don't have everything we want, we lack relationship's or support from other's. But this "woman" actually had the GALL and choice to KILL these beautiful, beautiful, poor little angel's just because she could. I can't imagine killing ANYONE, not ANYONE, not even my worst "enemy", but this B KILLED these tiny, helpless, innocent darling little babies. I just can't imagine it, and believe me, I suffer from mental illness time's a million, but never would I or could I ever. I'm so sickened and disgusted by this pathetic excuse for a human being. My God. My beautiful, beloved son is 19 year's old, and had anyone tried to hurt him, I can tell you I would most certainly be imprisoned because I would seek revenge like you could never even imagine. There is absolutely NO excuse, reason, or justification for this happening. She deserves the absolute worst that can come her way. Thank you so much for this coverage, hon ❤❤❤
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast oh my goodness, I seriously feel like a celebrity for getting a like AND a comment from you, hon 💐💐💐❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏 Thank you so so much. I have subscribed to your channel, and I look forward to seeing and hearing everything you post 🌺🌺🌺
I think you hit it on the head when you mentioned getting her "rush". Whether she is a sadist or just a covert narcissist, I think she experienced an infantile death or maybe a few deaths at Liverpool then Chester. This titillated her, like a heroin or coke addict getting their first high, or a gambler with a first throw of the dice or wager. It could've even been sexually stimulating like Karla Faye Tucker mentioned concerning her murderous acts. She started with all good intentions. She had a great career, she was paying off a house and certainly with patience a future suitor. But she tossed it all away to become likely the most heinous murderer of recent memory in the United Kingdom; hard to top murdering and attempting to murder this many infants who were already facing difficult challenges. As someone in the "comments" pointed out about serial killers and murderers beginning at different times in their lives, it makes me wonder if this behavior was a result of a brain tumor/lession or a biochemical change. Anyway, I hope she allows scientists to study her brain. But I am not holding my breath.
Some of you on here can't seem to grasp the amount of work put in, regarding the investigation. So here is a video of the Dr who investigated the crimes, he worked tirelessly to get to the correct conclusions. He worked on the cases on an individual case by case basis. He was entirely independent of the hospital involved. He had no prior knowledge of what was suspected, he worked completely blind on each of the cases. He had no names of the medical staff potentially involved. He could see these deaths were deliberate acts of sabotage, it could not be accidental, or malpractice. So essentially there has been 2 investigations carried out, on each baby. 1 by the Police 1 by the investigating Dr. Both investigations entirely independent of each other, draw the exact same conclusions. If you believe she is completely innocent, how do you explain the medical notes of the specific babies found in her home? That is highly illegal, due to Data Protection laws. Those documents cannot for any reason, leave the hospital... BY LAW. How do you explain her checking out the families Facebook accounts,? Many many times, this too goes against every ethic and law within Health and social care. How do you explain her being on every single shift? Watch the video, it's very interesting and fills in a lot of the gaps... fb.watch/mCSDhQxvhW/
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast It is really interesting. There is another guy doing videos, he attended the case and says he too was previously convinced of her innocence. Then he goes through the moments of when the prosecution trip her over... Repeatedly.. I will get you a link to his videos. That too is well worth a watch.
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast th-cam.com/video/rCHTwEGTZOA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=b1X9p9U02DyUvFKs He's done a series on it. Very interesting, I just wish he'd hurry up a bit, getting to the meat and potato's of the story 😂
@@eleanorwalmsley635 also, there was a blood gas reading of a child she either attacked or killed (can't remember which) taken by another nurse who disposed of it in the confidential waste bin. That paper was later discovered at Letby's home. That means she had fished it out of the bin & taken it with her. Not only is that illegal but it shows that she was collecting or stealing confidential information on those babies for personal use.
Hey, Kid. 😉 Appreciate your perspectives. Anyone who discounts you based on your disclosed criminal past has lost the plot; everything you are now is informed by your experiences, and they are valuable and articulated clearly and with insight. Cheers.
they believe most CEO's are psychopaths, I was going to say that they don't kill people however, but I bet a good number of them go to "hostel" style killing resorts.
The thing is she looks so normal like literally a woman you would see at the local supermarket. Where as Beverley Allitt you could tell something was sisnsiter by the manipulative smile she did she should be in prison not a mental health hospital it is NOT right. Neither of these two Lucy or Beverley have shown any remorse which it makes it so evil. Those poor baby victims and those poor parents will be forever in pain 💔💔
Please look at Dr Mclachlan and Dr Scott interview. There are 2 many issues that have not explored and those that have been explored have questionable outcomes. Very worrying.
A couple of other things about Letby: she seems tall for an English woman which may have impacted her self image and her ability to find a boyfriend; in photos, her chums seem to be older (are these just people on her shift or did she gravitate to older people?); her own birth was a bit difficult as she was supposedly born premature as I recall; she appears to me quite immature with all the stuffed animals and Disney stuff (like a 10 year old); and she was smothered via coddling from her parents (I've never seen that turn out good). In addition, I realize she was concentrating on her career, but no boyfriend until her escapades with this married doctor? I find that quite odd. She is fairly attractive and had a good career before being arrested. Perhaps guys picked up on her issues through her behavior (haughty, standoffish?). She may also be shy. It seems like she has a kind of "arrested development". Mystified she didn't have other relationships. In fact, was her relationship with the doctor even consummated? Or was she just "the office wife" to him?
Doctors and policeman have been convicted of a crime, so never judge a book by it's cover. You say you were a bad boy "kicking peoples heads in" you certainly don't sound like the kind of person who would do that. Jeffrey dahmer looked normal, look a5 the things he did. Shows how the human race forms opinions.
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast. You hear of stories were some people are compulsive thieves, whereas they have gone into a shop without any initial intention of theft, don’t need to steal items for any kind of financial gain but they just find themselves in a situation where the opportunity presents itself and impulsively they suddenly feel the instant need to just take that item that doesn’t belong to them, an item they don’t even want or need. They take that item because they have some kind of sudden & overwhelming inexplicable urge to “just do it” for no other reason than just doing it. Lucy Letby, albeit far, far more serious consequences all round may have been possessed with these overwhelming, instant & inexplicable compulsive urges because the opportunity presented itself, overwhelming urges that of all people even she wasn’t aware she had until she started having them so there was no historic tell tale signs from her youth or upbringing, urges that even Lucy Letby can’t explain, understand or comprehend herself. There is probably a psychological or mental disorder that explains this behaviour.
The Dr who was entirely independent of the hospital, who investigated the crimes. He was given all medical notes, but no names of medical staff. Initially many of the babies deaths were attributed to natural causes. However he looked at what happened, when it happened in each individual case and could see, the deaths were in no way natural, they were deliberate, not malpractice. He could see tampering with insulin had happened in some cases. He could see the amounts of milk fed to the babies, due to the large amounts of vomit, did not tally with what was written down as the milk that was given. The volume of vomit was just too high. Then he said the most difficult was the air in the feeding tube, as it is so dangerous and an occurrence is so very rare, it was harder to completely work out, put together, there wasn't much out there to go on, in previous medical cases. It was largely unprecedented. Dr's do not do these tasks, the nurses undertake these tasks. Upon tracing back, who did what, when, there was only Letby who was on every single shift, when these things happened. You pair that with keeping those particular babies medical notes at home, highly illegal, pertaining to GDPR laws. Also the fact that she was checking the parents Facebook pages, many, many times, that too goes against all training in the care sector. Alongside 7 separate Peadeatricians stating they weren't happy about her presence on the ward. They have her on all of these counts.
Ive been binge watching 😂 ive been following this case from it was made public, but that was when she was being investigated and then i heard nothing for years. It was only very recently i discovered all of this content on her. Lucy letby is a very fascinating and peculiar figure. You should definitely start some playlist of writing to these people. No one else does that.
Thank you, I made some poor decisions that sent me to prison, I am dumb as a post in some situations! I like to keep control of who sees who I am, my face is on there and I don't want my identity getting to widely known
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast Aah that makes sense! I thought your instagram had prison related stuff hence I checked it out. I second that you should avoid being doxxed, keep yourself anon and preserve your privacy👍 As of bad decisions, no one is perfect, glad you eventually twigged, got out of prison, and found a productive life. All the best. PS. I second your analysis that young ladies often have an attraction to “bad boys”, but it’s often only until their biological clock steps in and they realise they need a man who stays out of prison 😆
lucy letby was into the occult cause i had my doubts over it been her and maybe a stitch up job but then i seen the video the police made of her house and i dont mean the teenagers bedroom i mean the spare bedroom she had done up like a babys chapel of rest and what was on the walll a big owl now a lot of people might not had made any connection there and maybe thought nothing of it and said it was to remind her of work which is bizzare in itself but see the thing is in occult the owl is moloch and moloch is anacient god whose worship involved the sacrifice of babys its too much of a coincidence for her not to have known what it meant a baby killer with a spare bedroom done up like a nanys chapel of rest with a big moloch symbol on the wall and she keptthe notes from the babys under the cot in that spare bedroom she had done up like a babys chapel of rest an offering i call that she knew exactly what that owl meant and shes from hereford and that has massive connections to wicca and witchcraft and lucy letby coincidently turns out to be a baby killer with occult symbolism all over her spare bedroom that represents child scarfices or am i missing something and just seeing a coincidence and there is no connection
Apart from the evidence of what actually killed the babies and her being there at the time? Awkward. Oh and the deaths mysteriously stopping at the unit after her arrest? Or when she was on her holidays?
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast I wouldn't convict on that. Note: I used the word much in a literal sense. they had a lot of evidence without the letter and i would believe she did it minus the letter but there was little in terms of corroboration. cant convict on coincidences. stats are not definitive proof
It isn't, the evidence of causes of deaths is overwhelming. Those deaths cannot be accidental or malpractice, they had to be a deliberate act of sabotage. The police investigation, was entirely separate to the medical investigation. The Dr who carried out the medical investigation, did it blind, he had no knowledge of the police suspicions. He had to trace everything back on medical notes, signs and symptoms. He worked on each case, individually, which is why it took such a long time to bring it all together and put to a judge and jury. Check out my other comments, it is clearly explained.
What were the causes of death with the babies who died, once she was removed from the ward? The deaths of the babies prior to her removal, were clearly sabotage, upon investigation, not natural, or accidental, or malpractice.. They were deliberate murder. Please read my many other posts and responses on here, it is very clearly explained.
can defo relate to the bad boy-good girl relationship you speak of, when you're younger, it's exciting. and stable, good types, that you could take home to meet ya mum, aren't. Where's the fun in that?? This bird is summat else tho, it's just so hard to get ya head around! Thanks for covering this sensitive case :)
Firstly, I sincerely hope that you are ashamed of your criminal past. Secondly, when I worked in the Immigration Service the names of operations (i.e Immigration visits or raids)were given or derived from a very large book. Each Immigration action took its' name following the last one as dictated by the book. I do not know if police forces act similarly.
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast, actually I very much fear that Lucy Letby may be innocent. If you are interested then David Kurten's TH-cam video is persuasive.
That's a ridiculous theory. More probable as psychologists have mentioned is that Lucy's parents smothered/spoiled her and covered her every mistake. If the woman is a psychopath, she doesn't need a reason to kill innnocent victims. She enjoys the power and suffering she causes.
I think it may be more that she was a premie baby herself who had a difficult birth & was quite poorly as a child, who was then smothered by her parents for this reason (& also because she was a precious only child). Maybe she resented that, & perhaps her mother or her parents had drummed it into her how difficult it was to conceive her & the problems with her birth. How she almost died & how lucky she was to be alive. That could have planted the seed of a very complex & deep rooted psychological disorder centered around birth, life & death. The killing of premature babies may have been symbolic to her in some twisted sort of way. Just my theory though. Who knows what the truth is.
@@leen1q84. If your theory is correct “if”, this would mean that she must have planned her evil deeds many years before she actually committed them. So, put this theory into context, from at least leaving school if not earlier, she went to college or university to study being a nurse with the ultimate intention of murder in mind, she graduates from college/university and lands herself a position at a teaching hospital with the ultimate intention of murder in mind, completing & qualifying as a nurse she aims at & lands a job on the baby ward at Chester now in her ultimate prime position to carry out her evil deeds she planned for years earlier. Don’t get me wrong, it is a possible theory but I just think if someone was so determined to commit murder they wouldn’t go to such great lengths of years of medical studies to do so. I think the inexplicable urge came upon her after she became a nurse not years before.
@@grumpygramps1451 I dont think she planned her studies to become a nurse for killing ... it was more as unknown drive-force for her..... The frequency or number of murders in a short period of time... contact with grieving parents ...gives the picture of obsessive thinking with compulsive behavior. She is more psychotic than psychopathic. she had 200 handover sheet of infants and lived near burial ground for babies. Did she knew what she was doing? Sure she did after very first murder. It seems she has not memory problem.
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast yup. Even though the view was never great from the sweatbox! But it was a kind off freedom though bitter sweet when passing through your own neighborhood if you was going to a local court 🤔
Hopefully in time she will feel pain bullying even far worse things done to her .Torturing a new born baby with hospital instruments makes my blood boil my heart goes out to every person and family affected by what this monster done . R.I.P. all u beautiful angels 🧸🧸🧸🧸
She had everything in her life.she brought her first house and she threw it all away with her murderous acts that she did against babies that couldn't fight back.she didn't pick her own size because she knew that she wouldn't of stood a chance instead she chose new born babies that needed her to take care of them.oh how I hope she has a super time in prison.i have to literally shut my mind down because I can't bear what she did to those defenseless beautiful babies.if I feel like this dear god imagine how the parents feel! Truly heartbreaking 😞😔
She's a very odd case
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast for sure I don't think I will ever get my head around what she has done.she could of had it all but she chose to throw it all away with her murderous acts of killing defenseless beautiful babies that couldn't fight back.awful truly truly awful 😔
@@charisse234 I feel physically sick & literally feel pain throughout my body to even think of what those poor helpless little babes had to endure, not even understanding what was happening to them in their tragically short time in this sick world & not being able to fight back 😥 Just so awful & unthinkable 😓
I hope she is not in a private cell. She needs to be in a prison cell with some tough-ass bad girls.
If she doesn't look like a criminal, what does a criminal look like from a simple picture?. She was jealous because she wasn't married or had kids, she wasn't even pretty in some pictures. The babies and the parents had something she wanted but didn't have, a happy family.
do you really think she did this just for his attention? was she really that disturbed?
@WilliamBonneyPodcast She done it out of hate and jealousy.
I’m a retired NICU nurse. She wanted to be with the “ sickest” babies in her level of NICU. In the US there are basically 4 levels of care. Level 1: well babies, Level 2: premature infants or infants with issues, ie respiratory, jaundice etc, from 32 weeks gestation up, Level 3: infants from 24 weeks up requiring higher intensity of care, intubation, chest tubes, etc. these infants are obviously at higher risk of having medical issues. Level 4. Only a few hospitals have level 4 status. Any age infant requiring complicated surgery, ie cardiac surgery.
A level 3 NICU has level 3 and level 2 infants in it.
Many of the infants Lucy letby attacked were very stable 32 week twins and triplets. In my experience natural triplets do very well. They were stable and doing well when she killed two of them. It sounds like they may have been a level 3 initially but then the doctor downgraded to a level 2 because of all the incidents? But many of the infants sounded like they were around the 32 weeks and up and stable. We would not expect them to die. Once in awhile there could be a death unexpectedly, but this was usually due to sepsis, Nec, or rare underlying medical condition. We would not see the amount of deaths that were occuring due to Lucy Letbys killings. I can’t believe the management covered that up!!
As American NON medical professional (I was in a laboratory specialty years back) I'd like to thank you and all the good nurses throughout the planet for being hard working. No way I could do that job without the stress and tears of constant sickness and death. I still can't bring myself to believe this woman was this sick and heartless. Maybe she was trying to play games and save them...but even that is high level psychopathy imo. I hope I never need hospital help until Im knocking on death's door or too old. In NYC, some of the doctors themselves seem next level socio/psychopaths. Scary world we live in.
Lot of me wonders if she’s been used as a scapegoat to some extent to cover up internal failings.
What does make me think she is guilty is her attitude of being beyond reproach & any/all scrutiny, to the point where she made management give her a written apology when they initially suggested she was responsible for injuries.
If I put myself in her position, even with one death on my watch I’d be doing a whole lot of self reflection about what I could have done better. 2 deaths? I’d be seriously considering whether I was fit to continue in that job instead of demanding written apologies.
I know nothing about this sort of nursing but this is my opinion as a layman.
Its so important that it’s revealed what all the sudden collapse babies were suffering from, rather than just the ones which could be linked to LL.
There's nothing more evil than taking the life of a child. Nothing.
Mother incest is worse.
This is such true nothing worse than harming a child in any way!
agreed
Nothing worse than taking the life of a child's
She blamed colleagues ,also why did unexplainable deaths stop when she was removed from the unit,taking (your not allowed) home medical notes and ,handover sheets, I don't think any appeal will work,the police have been diligent .
100%, there's very little hard evidence, but all the evidence we do have points towards her being nuts
Ted Bundy was in college when he committed his first murder, Russell Williams was 40 years old, his methods were all different, Lucy waited as well until it hit her one day that babies couldn't fight back. If she had used repeated methods, they would have noticed sooner if she had used the same method over and over, so she varied her methods but still the same venerable babies. What I think, completely my thoughts is that she was always rescued by her parents, and she played the helpless little girl card, just think for a second, in the witness box she had a "comfort blanket" what 33-year-old woman holds a comfort blanket. She was clearly playing the little girl as she did with her parents. Not all Serials killed kittens when they were young. but they sure thought about it. Cary Stayner never killed an animal or human until he was 31. He said he just held it in until he couldn't anymore. Women serials can be very very cunning. PS: your a good storyteller. Love it.
Thanks, that's a good insight
Well said! 👏👏
the doctor that she fancied was the doctor who would be called when a baby was dying, they think she did it to get him to come into the hospital.
that's pretty cold, you'd hope she was a nutcase rather than doing it because she fancied the doctor that came to help.
I agree William, this whole case is baffling. She doesn't seem the type at all to commit these crimes. The most plausible explanation is that she loved the drama and also craved attention of a male doctor. But who knows, and I guess we'll probably never know. Heard interviews from the parents last night and the details were truly horrifying.
Haven't you seen some serial killer's pictures, do they look like serial killer's?. What does a criminal or serial killer look like?.
@@equinox95 of course. What's your point?
I have a feeling the parents know she is a nut case, they would have seen the barbies with their heads cut off...
what is the type you'd expect to do this? psychologically she is exactly the type.
@danswhite8544and what type are the Administrators who turned a blind eye in order to maintain their tick box system? In my view they are guilty of
corporate manslaughter.
Been away a while following some pretty serious surgery on my brain (I followed your channel from pretty early on). Great to see you're still making the content and still smashing it. Hope you and yours are doing well. Letby will be doing the hardest time of all.
I hope your doing well Samcadwallader2899
@@Cosmickitten2012 good enough to bother replying on TH-cam again! Thanks for the well wishes 😎
Sorry to hear about the surgery, hope you are feeling better soon. Thanks for the good wishes, this video has really taken off
Not one bit of evidence of any one seeing her doing it
I still think she's guilty...but if this was a US case, she'd be NOT in the news...and declared not guilty...or not even indicted. :/
I'm sure you wouldn't say that if it was your child. There is plenty of evidence against her.
Why don't you campaign for her to babysit for your grandchildren, then?
Tons of circumstantial evidence.
Please scroll through, find my comments...
Essentially you have 2 investigations that went on, which is why it took so long to get to court, each case was medically investigated, individually, on a case by case basis. Entirely blind, no names of any medical staff were given to the Dr investigating.
The medical investigation is also entirely independent from the hospital.
involved.
I have posted a 20 minute video with the Dr who traced what happened, when it happened, how it happened.
None of the deaths were accidental, or malpractice, the causes of death had to be caused by sabotage.
The Police investigation and the medical investigation...
Both draw the same conclusions..
I wish people would research just exactly what they are defending...
I worked with consultants and in hospitals most of my working life. The managers 🙄 how do they ever get those jobs! And the salaries 😞. I beggars belief that they didn't give any credence to the doctors and staff that worked with her and ACTUALLY SIDED WITH HER I 🥵
YES you are right. This note tells a lot more than people are saying. When i look at Lucy intuitively, i see a girl that has two personas. The good child and its best friend a hidden evil monster. You have a really nice voice by the way 😊 It is good to listen to your take on this through instinctual eyes rather than psychological profiling.
The NHS, unfortunately, is run by clowns. The meetings I used to sit in on were some of the most pointless wastes of my life. and there were sooo many of them.
Thanks, I'm going to be doing some crime fiction soon too, you may enjoy listening to that.
Hang On ! The Whole Case Is Flawed With Speculation From All Angles Even The JUDGE Eluding To Premature Baby's 1Day And 2Days Old Murdered / Very Hard To Grasp Such Allegation's And Belief / The WHOLE Area Of This Trust And Staff Need Investigating / Very Suspicious State Of Affairs / Not Convinced At All / Serious Case Review Should Be Initiated / Period .
They also need to ask why the UK has the highest neonatal mortality rate in Western Europe.
@@AndyT-np8mm Because the NHS is being deliberately underfunded or the funding is being directed to 'managers'? I noted the managers were more worried about the Trust and its reputation than the actual lives/deaths of the babies. Very sad and corrupt.
The fact that deaths mysteriously stopped occurring on the unit whenever she wasn't around, convinced the jury. That's all that matters. Our opinion is irrelevant.
Please read my posts on here, it is very clearly explained how conclusions were drawn..
Lucy Letby, an only child brought up by doting parents, knows for sure that as soon as she is let free in to the mainstream female inmates, they will seek to vent their rage - pls remember those inmates have full access to media - the tabloid press are proficient in touching our raw emotions. Even the prison guards will hold a burning fire of rage… she harmed the most vulnerable of our society. If I was a prison guard, trust me I’d look the other way if anything kicked off. So Will, I can imagine the stress in Lucy’s mind is immense as she knows something will most definitely happen whilst inside for a WHOLE LIFE TERM.
Yeah I hope it drives her insane, waiting for that moment day in day out.
It will be in the news in the next year that she is being moved after being stabbed by other inmates
Thanks for another podcast William. Really enjoy listening to you.
She either snapped for some reason, or she has been killing for much longer than we know yet.
I do think her relationship with her parents is dysfunctional. Sounds like they did too much for her. Perhaps she felt she had no power or control?
Or maybe she is just what she said she is, evil?!
There could be a lot of dolls with their heads cut off in that girls closet.
Dear Will, what a masterpiece assessment on the most tragic event I have experienced thus far in my life. You touched on so many points missed by mainstream and social media. Your highly valued account has been thoughtfully infused with personal experiences delivered in a way EVERYTHING is understood and felt through your narration. Trust me, your insight and delivery is far superior than any other account of this awful tragedy. If only the mainstream media could invite you to the television studio as a guest and air on national TV. Your account is for the mainstream British/World public. I learned so much from your valued insight of the tragedy. Thank you Will.
thank you I appreciate that
Oh. My. Wow.... 😮😮😮
I just read your profile on TH-cam, and I'm completely dumbfounded.
You're an incredible person.
Thank you so much for sharing your honest life ❤❤❤
thanks, I went in the wrong direction for a long period of my life. I tell these stories now to give others an insight into what my time inside was like.
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast God Bless you, hon 🙏🙏🙏
I'm a recovering alcoholic and drug addict, and had thing's gone even slightly differently, I would have ended up in your position.
I truly appreciate your honesty and strength to share your experience.
Hospital management should be in charge. They just sacrificed one person. Her psycho gradually lead her to this point. It wasn't like an evil, hide herself and they caught her.
do you think there are more deaths to come out?
Its not easy to say yes or no. When it comes to clinical point of view and patient records its not easy to make this type of judgment. Do u know how many patient they see every day! Im not saying she wasn't guilty. But I dont think she was that evil! Neglectful, not experienced, in clinic and practical its easy to forget something or doing mistakes... lots of things going on. Listening to her responds to the judge, there is no enough evidence to say she is evil, straight away.
Someone commented that they think she enjoyed the pain she caused the parents. I think they're on to something.
I totally agree with this. I think she wanted what these families had and didn't believe she'd ever get it. The jealousy was eating her up inside and turned into sadism and revenge.
@@tizzas1232 Possibly part of her psychopathy.
She didn't look like a criminal that's what makes her so dangerous.
She was infatuated with the doctor and was looking for attention from him.
I still think she has some mental illness im not saying that is a excuse there's lot's and people that have a mental illness that don't commit crime.
She makes me absolutely horrendously physically and emotionally ill.
She is just so absolutely disgusting.
My God.
So so SO many of us have had difficult lives, we don't have everything we want, we lack relationship's or support from other's.
But this "woman" actually had the GALL and choice to KILL these beautiful, beautiful, poor little angel's just because she could.
I can't imagine killing ANYONE, not ANYONE, not even my worst "enemy", but this B KILLED these tiny, helpless, innocent darling little babies.
I just can't imagine it, and believe me, I suffer from mental illness time's a million, but never would I or could I ever.
I'm so sickened and disgusted by this pathetic excuse for a human being.
My God.
My beautiful, beloved son is 19 year's old, and had anyone tried to hurt him, I can tell you I would most certainly be imprisoned because I would seek revenge like you could never even imagine.
There is absolutely NO excuse, reason, or justification for this happening.
She deserves the absolute worst that can come her way.
Thank you so much for this coverage, hon ❤❤❤
It takes someone very disturbed to do what she did
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast oh my goodness, I seriously feel like a celebrity for getting a like AND a comment from you, hon 💐💐💐❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so so much.
I have subscribed to your channel, and I look forward to seeing and hearing everything you post 🌺🌺🌺
You are completely right, and I totally agree with you.
I think you hit it on the head when you mentioned getting her "rush". Whether she is a sadist or just a covert narcissist, I think she experienced an infantile death or maybe a few deaths at Liverpool then Chester. This titillated her, like a heroin or coke addict getting their first high, or a gambler with a first throw of the dice or wager. It could've even been sexually stimulating like Karla Faye Tucker mentioned concerning her murderous acts.
She started with all good intentions. She had a great career, she was paying off a house and certainly with patience a future suitor. But she tossed it all away to become likely the most heinous murderer of recent memory in the United Kingdom; hard to top murdering and attempting to murder this many infants who were already facing difficult challenges.
As someone in the "comments" pointed out about serial killers and murderers beginning at different times in their lives, it makes me wonder if this behavior was a result of a brain tumor/lession or a biochemical change.
Anyway, I hope she allows scientists to study her brain. But I am not holding my breath.
Some of you on here can't seem to grasp the amount of work put in, regarding the investigation.
So here is a video of the Dr who investigated the crimes, he worked tirelessly to get to the correct conclusions. He worked on the cases on an individual case by case basis.
He was entirely independent of the hospital involved.
He had no prior knowledge of what was suspected, he worked completely blind on each of the cases. He had no names of the medical staff potentially involved.
He could see these deaths were deliberate acts of sabotage, it could not be accidental, or malpractice.
So essentially there has been 2 investigations carried out, on each baby.
1 by the Police
1 by the investigating Dr.
Both investigations entirely independent of each other, draw the exact same conclusions.
If you believe she is completely innocent, how do you explain the medical notes of the specific babies found in her home?
That is highly illegal, due to Data Protection laws.
Those documents cannot for any reason, leave the hospital... BY LAW.
How do you explain her checking out the families Facebook accounts,? Many many times, this too goes against every ethic and law within Health and social care.
How do you explain her being on every single shift?
Watch the video, it's very interesting and fills in a lot of the gaps...
fb.watch/mCSDhQxvhW/
I'll give that a watch, thanks Eleanor
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast
It is really interesting.
There is another guy doing videos, he attended the case and says he too was previously convinced of her innocence. Then he goes through the moments of when the prosecution trip her over... Repeatedly..
I will get you a link to his videos. That too is well worth a watch.
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast th-cam.com/video/rCHTwEGTZOA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=b1X9p9U02DyUvFKs
He's done a series on it.
Very interesting, I just wish he'd hurry up a bit, getting to the meat and potato's of the story 😂
@@eleanorwalmsley635 you mean Crime Scene 2 Courtroom? Yes, that's a great channel on this case.
@@eleanorwalmsley635 also, there was a blood gas reading of a child she either attacked or killed (can't remember which) taken by another nurse who disposed of it in the confidential waste bin. That paper was later discovered at Letby's home. That means she had fished it out of the bin & taken it with her. Not only is that illegal but it shows that she was collecting or stealing confidential information on those babies for personal use.
Hey, Kid. 😉 Appreciate your perspectives. Anyone who discounts you based on your disclosed criminal past has lost the plot; everything you are now is informed by your experiences, and they are valuable and articulated clearly and with insight. Cheers.
Successful psychopaths are highly accomplished. She played nice in our reality.
they believe most CEO's are psychopaths, I was going to say that they don't kill people however, but I bet a good number of them go to "hostel" style killing resorts.
The thing is she looks so normal like literally a woman you would see at the local supermarket. Where as Beverley Allitt you could tell something was sisnsiter by the manipulative smile she did she should be in prison not a mental health hospital it is NOT right. Neither of these two Lucy or Beverley have shown any remorse which it makes it so evil. Those poor baby victims and those poor parents will be forever in pain 💔💔
Please look at Dr Mclachlan and Dr Scott interview. There are 2 many issues that have not explored and those that have been explored have questionable outcomes. Very worrying.
A couple of other things about Letby: she seems tall for an English woman which may have impacted her self image and her ability to find a boyfriend; in photos, her chums seem to be older (are these just people on her shift or did she gravitate to older people?); her own birth was a bit difficult as she was supposedly born premature as I recall; she appears to me quite immature with all the stuffed animals and Disney stuff (like a 10 year old); and she was smothered via coddling from her parents (I've never seen that turn out good).
In addition, I realize she was concentrating on her career, but no boyfriend until her escapades with this married doctor? I find that quite odd. She is fairly attractive and had a good career before being arrested. Perhaps guys picked up on her issues through her behavior (haughty, standoffish?). She may also be shy. It seems like she has a kind of "arrested development". Mystified she didn't have other relationships. In fact, was her relationship with the doctor even consummated? Or was she just "the office wife" to him?
My apologies for the inaccuracy, but Lucy Letby is only 5"6" from what I gather. If correct, I don't consider her to be tall at all.
Great work, brother ❤
very comprehensive research, a great podcast! thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Doctors and policeman have been convicted of a crime, so never judge a book by it's cover. You say you were a bad boy "kicking peoples heads in" you certainly don't sound like the kind of person who would do that. Jeffrey dahmer looked normal, look a5 the things he did.
Shows how the human race forms opinions.
I understand your point, in general people who look like her don't commit awful crime, but yes, they can look like anyone
Excellent podcast, akin to his prison stories, very watchable.
that house on westbourne road backs directly onto the crematorium where most if not all the babies would have been buried.....
jeez
I hope at some point she will reveal why babies were her target.
Opportunity....!
Highly unlikely. Beverly Allitt never did. People with personality disorders/psychopathy cannot be cured and never accept responsibility.
It was easy and undetectable.. use your brain
Possibly she was infatuated with them. Innocent and pure. Like breaking something irreplaceable
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast Or her more sadistic side. Causing those babies pain and causing their parents mental anguish.
Hard to comprehend what could possibly have been going through her mind when she carried out these act, clearly mentally I’ll.
She is intriguing. I just don't understand why it didn't manifest in other ways.
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast. You hear of stories were some people are compulsive thieves, whereas they have gone into a shop without any initial intention of theft, don’t need to steal items for any kind of financial gain but they just find themselves in a situation where the opportunity presents itself and impulsively they suddenly feel the instant need to just take that item that doesn’t belong to them, an item they don’t even want or need. They take that item because they have some kind of sudden & overwhelming inexplicable urge to “just do it” for no other reason than just doing it.
Lucy Letby, albeit far, far more serious consequences all round may have been possessed with these overwhelming, instant & inexplicable compulsive urges because the opportunity presented itself, overwhelming urges that of all people even she wasn’t aware she had until she started having them so there was no historic tell tale signs from her youth or upbringing, urges that even Lucy Letby can’t explain, understand or comprehend herself. There is probably a psychological or mental disorder that explains this behaviour.
Great commentary on this👍🇨🇦
Glad you enjoyed it
Very few serial killers are female, but nearly all infant killers are female.
Maybe she changed her method of murder so there wasn't a pattern and less likely to get caught.
Correct.
I think she was smart enough to know that there would be an investigation if they all died the same way
And she had superb enablers. @@WilliamBonneyPodcast
This absolutely smacks of a miscarriage of justice.
What makes you think it’s a miscarriage of justice?
The Dr who was entirely independent of the hospital, who investigated the crimes. He was given all medical notes, but no names of medical staff. Initially many of the babies deaths were attributed to natural causes. However he looked at what happened, when it happened in each individual case and could see, the deaths were in no way natural, they were deliberate, not malpractice.
He could see tampering with insulin had happened in some cases. He could see the amounts of milk fed to the babies, due to the large amounts of vomit, did not tally with what was written down as the milk that was given. The volume of vomit was just too high. Then he said the most difficult was the air in the feeding tube, as it is so dangerous and an occurrence is so very rare, it was harder to completely work out, put together, there wasn't much out there to go on, in previous medical cases. It was largely unprecedented.
Dr's do not do these tasks, the nurses undertake these tasks. Upon tracing back, who did what, when, there was only Letby who was on every single shift, when these things happened. You pair that with keeping those particular babies medical notes at home, highly illegal, pertaining to GDPR laws. Also the fact that she was checking the parents Facebook pages, many, many times, that too goes against all training in the care sector.
Alongside 7 separate Peadeatricians stating they weren't happy about her presence on the ward.
They have her on all of these counts.
All circumstantial.
@@RationalNon-conformistWHAT..??? Don't be ridiculous
Indeed. I remain unconvinced by the "evidence". Weakest case I've ever seen. Wouldn't be surprised if she ends up free soon.
New subscriber, this was a great video
Thank you, I have like a hundred other videos taking about prison life, I'd like to hear what you think
Ive been binge watching 😂 ive been following this case from it was made public, but that was when she was being investigated and then i heard nothing for years. It was only very recently i discovered all of this content on her. Lucy letby is a very fascinating and peculiar figure. You should definitely start some playlist of writing to these people. No one else does that.
Do you think so? Who would you like to hear back from?
@@WilliamBonneyPodcastdo a vote! Pick one out of three or something. Bet subs would love that.
Lucy Lucy we all know you evil you don’t need to remind us you are evil
I think her parents bought her house.
Shes INNOCENT.
I think she was an incel no boyfriend no kids evil
Dang u talk to much
thanks bro
Can’t believe that you’re an ex-con. You’re very articulate and sound intelligent. SMH 🤦♀️
Btw. why share your Instagram link if it’s privated? 🙃
Thank you, I made some poor decisions that sent me to prison, I am dumb as a post in some situations!
I like to keep control of who sees who I am, my face is on there and I don't want my identity getting to widely known
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast Aah that makes sense! I thought your instagram had prison related stuff hence I checked it out. I second that you should avoid being doxxed, keep yourself anon and preserve your privacy👍
As of bad decisions, no one is perfect, glad you eventually twigged, got out of prison, and found a productive life. All the best.
PS. I second your analysis that young ladies often have an attraction to “bad boys”, but it’s often only until their biological clock steps in and they realise they need a man who stays out of prison 😆
lucy letby was into the occult cause i had my doubts over it been her and maybe a stitch up job but then i seen the video the police made of her house and i dont mean the teenagers bedroom i mean the spare bedroom she had done up like a babys chapel of rest and what was on the walll a big owl now a lot of people might not had made any connection there and maybe thought nothing of it and said it was to remind her of work which is bizzare in itself but see the thing is in occult the owl is moloch and moloch is anacient god whose worship involved the sacrifice of babys its too much of a coincidence for her not to have known what it meant a baby killer with a spare bedroom done up like a nanys chapel of rest with a big moloch symbol on the wall and she keptthe notes from the babys under the cot in that spare bedroom she had done up like a babys chapel of rest an offering i call that she knew exactly what that owl meant and shes from hereford and that has massive connections to wicca and witchcraft and lucy letby coincidently turns out to be a baby killer with occult symbolism all over her spare bedroom that represents child scarfices or am i missing something and just seeing a coincidence and there is no connection
Very interesting
without the letter, they wouldn't have much
Apart from the evidence of what actually killed the babies and her being there at the time? Awkward. Oh and the deaths mysteriously stopping at the unit after her arrest? Or when she was on her holidays?
@@elizabethbathory6144 be harder to prove, especially if she just stuck to using the air
Please read my posts on here, it's very clearly explained, there's a lot to digest. There's a lot more to it than letters
There's the rota stats and some evidence of her standing over babies when they were dying
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast I wouldn't convict on that. Note: I used the word much in a literal sense. they had a lot of evidence without the letter and i would believe she did it minus the letter but there was little in terms of corroboration. cant convict on coincidences. stats are not definitive proof
Heartbreaking😢
its a clear wrongfull conviction i think
It isn't, the evidence of causes of deaths is overwhelming. Those deaths cannot be accidental or malpractice, they had to be a deliberate act of sabotage.
The police investigation, was entirely separate to the medical investigation. The Dr who carried out the medical investigation, did it blind, he had no knowledge of the police suspicions.
He had to trace everything back on medical notes, signs and symptoms.
He worked on each case, individually, which is why it took such a long time to bring it all together and put to a judge and jury.
Check out my other comments, it is clearly explained.
so how come there were more deaths ater she left than when she was there
@colinmcewen9530
So you know more than the jury?
y@@ianstrange5674 yes a lot more becouse they were not told the full truth by the proscuter
What were the causes of death with the babies who died, once she was removed from the ward?
The deaths of the babies prior to her removal, were clearly sabotage, upon investigation, not natural, or accidental, or malpractice..
They were deliberate murder.
Please read my many other posts and responses on here, it is very clearly explained.
Munchausen
that or she was trying to sicken them to get her colleagues (that she didn't like) in trouble. Or Dr. A?
Similar to firemen who start fires, there are just a number of crazy things out there
she isnt pretty
can defo relate to the bad boy-good girl relationship you speak of, when you're younger, it's exciting. and stable, good types, that you could take home to meet ya mum, aren't. Where's the fun in that??
This bird is summat else tho, it's just so hard to get ya head around! Thanks for covering this sensitive case :)
thanks, this video has had such an emotive response for people
Firstly, I sincerely hope that you are ashamed of your criminal past.
Secondly, when I worked in the Immigration Service the names of operations (i.e Immigration visits or raids)were given or derived from a very large book. Each Immigration action took its' name following the last one as dictated by the book. I do not know if police forces act similarly.
Firstly, I sincerely hope that you are ashamed of your criminal past, working for the Immigration service.
I am ashamed of my past, but it is what it is
good information about the names book.
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast, actually I very much fear that Lucy Letby may be innocent. If you are interested then David Kurten's TH-cam video is persuasive.
My theory ,Lucys mother tried to kill lucy when she was infant and a nurse saved her.. 🥺
That's a ridiculous theory. More probable as psychologists have mentioned is that Lucy's parents smothered/spoiled her and covered her every mistake. If the woman is a psychopath, she doesn't need a reason to kill innnocent victims. She enjoys the power and suffering she causes.
I think it may be more that she was a premie baby herself who had a difficult birth & was quite poorly as a child, who was then smothered by her parents for this reason (& also because she was a precious only child). Maybe she resented that, & perhaps her mother or her parents had drummed it into her how difficult it was to conceive her & the problems with her birth. How she almost died & how lucky she was to be alive. That could have planted the seed of a very complex & deep rooted psychological disorder centered around birth, life & death. The killing of premature babies may have been symbolic to her in some twisted sort of way. Just my theory though. Who knows what the truth is.
@@leen1q84. If your theory is correct “if”, this would mean that she must have planned her evil deeds many years before she actually committed them. So, put this theory into context, from at least leaving school if not earlier, she went to college or university to study being a nurse with the ultimate intention of murder in mind, she graduates from college/university and lands herself a position at a teaching hospital with the ultimate intention of murder in mind, completing & qualifying as a nurse she aims at & lands a job on the baby ward at Chester now in her ultimate prime position to carry out her evil deeds she planned for years earlier.
Don’t get me wrong, it is a possible theory but I just think if someone was so determined to commit murder they wouldn’t go to such great lengths of years of medical studies to do so. I think the inexplicable urge came upon her after she became a nurse not years before.
@@grumpygramps1451 I dont think she planned her studies to become a nurse for killing ... it was more as unknown drive-force for her.....
The frequency or number of murders in a short period of time... contact with grieving parents ...gives the picture of obsessive thinking with compulsive behavior.
She is more psychotic than psychopathic.
she had 200 handover sheet of infants and lived near burial ground for babies.
Did she knew what she was doing?
Sure she did after very first murder. It seems she has not memory problem.
interesting, do you think there will be more deaths found?
Did he mention that she was a beige girl?
You just did.
😂
Well... You know, she is kinda beige
An ex-con jumping on the "evil Lucifer bandwagon" for financial gain. Good one mate!
You sound strangely jealous. Why don't you make your own podcast in protest?
@@elizabethbathory6144 Not enough time Elizabeth. Am renovating a castle in Transylvania.
Just social commentary
I used to go to court just for the day out and get some sivvys off my solicitor.
I know, it was a break from the monotony
@@WilliamBonneyPodcast yup. Even though the view was never great from the sweatbox! But it was a kind off freedom though bitter sweet when passing through your own neighborhood if you was going to a local court 🤔
Hopefully in time she will feel pain bullying even far worse things done to her .Torturing a new born baby with hospital instruments makes my blood boil my heart goes out to every person and family affected by what this monster done . R.I.P. all u beautiful angels 🧸🧸🧸🧸
It's difficult to comprehend isn't it