Brandon Lee, royal purple is shit. We build over 200 race engines a year that come through our shop and have seen more failures on royal purple than ANY other brand.
I wonder why you used the Redline Euro spec oil and not the OEM Professional grade or the high-performance grade. The Euro-spec oils are low to mid SAPS with significantly lower levels of zinc and phosphorous to extend the lives of emission control devices on European cars. On a highly loaded bearing, such as what you have here, the hydrodynamic film lubrication breaks down and the boundary layer lubrication, as provided by the zinc, becomes necessary to prevent metal to metal wear. The use of low to mid SAPS Euro spec oils sacrifices boundary condition wear protection for extended catalytic converter life, and so I'm not surprised that the Redline lubricated bearing showed more wear. The ACEA C3 spec calls for higher hot kinematic viscosity and greater high temperature high shear film strength for better hydrodynamic lubrication in higher-powered engines. This higher viscosity would contribute to greater fluid drag during the test, hence the higher load on the motor with a higher current draw. The Euro-spec oil has a significantly higher viscosity at 40 deg C(warm room temp) as compared to the Professional grade oil and so I would expect the Euro-spec oil to pour more slowly than the Professional grade near room temp. Amsoil makes a Euro-spec oil that has similar characteristics to the Redline oil that you used and so I think it would have been a better apples to apples comparison if you had used either both Euro-spec oils in the test or had used both non Euro-spec oils. For users in North America, I think the non Euro-spec oil comparison would have been the better test to make.
The results are fishy ! By his results the wear would be 15 or 14 times greater then the amsoil and that is clearly not the case at the end with the pic. Also you see 16.30 on scale but were does 16.29 come from ? Those wear scars look identical and one is not 15 times bigger then the other !
Your bearing weights make no sense. The scars are virtually identical, but one lost "0.15" grams and the other lost "0.01" grams... Unless you're using previously damaged bearings, there just isn't any way that is accurate.
Look at the numbers and do the math. Also the redline was larger, it would not show as much side to side, because it's a cylinder resulting in a larger mass of material coming from the center of the wear mark. The depth of the wear mark would be optically more revealing although the weight measurement doesn't rely on an optical perspective.
This test may not be as important as the fact that the 0w oils slide off parts much more than 5w or 10w oils. Gets there faster? After slaming dry? Modern cars are being destroyed and burning 0il because of green mandates to destroy petrol transportation!?! Smart old mechanics are going to higher viscocity to avoid 0il burning!!!
I'm wondering why you aren't using Signature series but OE? That would be a fair comparison. I'm a diehard Amsoil user and surprised by Redline results
That’s an incorrect comparison. You should’ve compared the Redline OE (professional series) line with Amsoil OE. But instead you compared Redline performance oil with Amsoil OE. The fair comparison would be using Amsoil Signature Series vs Redline Performance Oil.
I’m generally a fan of AMSOIL as an oil for some applications. And Redline for others. There’s a lot more to oil than the tests he purports to show here. We have no idea what the temperatures of the oils are, and as a general comment proper flow tests are performed differently than what he shows here, and under varying temperatures. Btw the wear scars look identical, so I don’t know where he’s getting the weight differences from, it’s the same sized bearings, if it took out more material the scar should’ve been twice the size. I use AMSOIL in one of my cars and Redline in another, AMSOIL signature 5w30 in my family SUV, and Redline 0w20 in my performance daily driver. I do love AMSOIL oil filters and use them in both applications.
Or WERE DOES 16.29 COME FROM visually for Redline in video ? As you say 16.30 verbally ? Also you tested redline in another vid and when comparing wear in GRAMS seems there a big difference of like .0933 difference. Something seems fishy or not correct. I'm going to buy my own tester very soon after I find best deal on a quality testing machine.
I do not know why one would consider these "tests" useful in predicting oil performance inside an engine. Viscosity number should correspond to flow rate, if two oils with same rating are compared, and one flows faster then it has lower viscosity at given temperature so it is out of spec, it is too thin, is not better. Oil rated at 5 should be 5 and not 4 or 3 or 0. This will not make it better, it will make it different grade of oil. Wear test is altogether odd, it just likes thinner oils. The thinner the oil - the better results it will produce not to mention inconsistency in the way that test is designed. This "testing" wants to look like it is scientific but it is not, this is a show.
The Amsoil Prmium membership is only $20 per year, one oil change and you're even, 2 and you're ahead. If I didn't have 4 years worth of full synthetics laying around, I'd consider it.
I think they are both really great oil. I have used Amsoil in all my vehicles before I owned my Ram. The 5.7 Hemi with the MDS loves moly though and the Redline has way more moly in it than the Amsoil. So at least while I own my hemi I will be using Redline. All other vehicles I would use the Amsoil.
You mentioned your hemi likes moly. I am considering trying Toyota Genuine motor oil in my Ram. It has a great additive package and is API SN certified. I have found where it lists like 700ppm of moly also. What would your thoughts be?
Amsoil all the way try running it for 25k and beyond read line sucks and royal purple 3 party testing concludes amsoil beats all the oils 10 times better!
You need to choose oils of the same spec. I.e vw504/507 as then you can see what the relative performance is through the competitors different oil specs
Hey but I don’t know if you got the oils mixed up but the first two tests contradict the bearing test at the end. Also from an engineering stand point Red Line also won Test 1 and Test 2.
You show load test results of 3.?? For both but never say what that number represents and why wouldn’t you check the temperature of the bearings while using the load test machine?
People asked for this formula of redline but i thought it could surely beat amsoil oe but signature series or not amsoil is still good quality but so is redline
Doesn’t matter the results; I simply cannot justify purchasing the Amsoil yearly subscription fee, merely to buy their oil. No thank you. Even if it is the best oil, which likely it is not, but even so, there are excellent motor oils which will protect your beloved engine, st much reduced cost, if changed at specified intervals.
Agree with your assessment about oil change interval. But you dont need a subscription fee to buy Amsoil. Only a preferred customer fee, if you choose to buy it at a lower cost than retail
amsoil claims they are compatible with other oils and additives. amsoil doesn't use aggressive additive packages like most other oils do so amsoil plays nicer with other oils. so you could make your own high mileage synthetic blend.
thanks for that heads up testing, I would never have believed that about redline.we in the race and performance area always put redline at the top, unless there race oils differ greatly from retail use.
Today I purchased Amsoil Signature Series 0W-40. Signature Series is the oil that can go to 25,000 miles or one year. It is the oil I have always wanted to try. I purchased it in advance but I still won't do the oil change for about a month or two.
I switched from mobile 1 extended performance to Amsoil SS and motor was alot quieter and mileage went up but only a tad. I couldn't find a amsoil filter so I used mobile 1 extended performance oil filter. I still change it every 7000 miles though. 1999 Pontiac firebird v6 140000 miles
Both being 5w30, shouldn't have that difference in flow at 1st test. Wouldn't Something be wrong like different temperatures or partial blockage at exit on the right tube? That is pretty odd.
I think something is fishy or mistake in video. 1. In video you say Redline bearing weighs 16.30 grams after test . WERE DOES 16.30 EVEN COME FROM ? 2. If your calculations are correct the Redline bearing wear scar should be 15 times the size of the wear scar of the Amsoil wear scar and by looking at bearing picture at the end THAT IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE as the wear scars look NEARLY IF NOT IDENTICAL ! Are you an amsoil dealer ? I MEAN WERE DOES 16.30 EVEN COME FROM ? Think about it wear scars clearly look identical and in vid you reference 16.30 verbally and 16.29 visually on vid for Redline which would make same wear scar for Amsoil and Redline.
Expected after following all the championship, I'm a little disappointed with Redline it got its behind kicked against Mobil 1 it would never be a good challenger against Amsoil.
It's the one oil I've used in my VW golf R that does minimal wear to the high pressure fuel pump cam follower. I'm able to go 3 times longer without changing it, it also doesn't burn as easily as other oils. Mobile one was Theodore I've used for oil consumption. Over 10000 km I lose half a quart of redline where mobile one was 1.5 - 2
Great test but I'd go back and retest Amsoil vs Redline but add Motorkote to Redline. And see if Motorkote helped Redline. Would be a great test to see if Motorkote actually helps.
I dont understand oil was being tested the same way over ten years ago on TH-cam also go back to the tournament meaning the very first video he declared to be a tournament video look at the date then look at my first video that i declared a tournament video mine was first its ok with me. But i dont consider a video of mine or his the start of the tournament if i made a old video then later started a tournament and there after counted the video from the past as part of it because that means you didn't figure out the tournament idea until you first mentioned in your video and then made the video but its important people know i made the tournament from my own idea because college basketball is big where i live.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO Brother don't pay attention to that comment, That aint nothin but hating at its finest your real people know what's up! Thanks for the video, I been waiting for this 1!!!!
I never used before redline but amsoil for sure is great , ibtried to switch on different oils from amsoil and they just don’t work as good as amsoil, now I will try redline
These tests are meaningless. There is a good chance that bottom shelf Kmart brand synthetic could surpass these oils using the tests put forth. Real world pumpability, wear and add pack retention are real tests along with oil analysis after use. I don't understand all these videos with the same meaningless tests.
Amsoil or redline make your picks?
Thank you for finally making this video ... I hoped you added the temperature test
RED LINE is still my choice
I want to see Royal Purple HPS vs Amsoil. No API RP must see HPS against Amsoil.
Brandon Lee, royal purple is shit. We build over 200 race engines a year that come through our shop and have seen more failures on royal purple than ANY other brand.
Amsoil is best Motor oil money can buy. 4 times less engine wear vs competitors.
I wonder why you used the Redline Euro spec oil and not the OEM Professional grade or the high-performance grade. The Euro-spec oils are low to mid SAPS with significantly lower levels of zinc and phosphorous to extend the lives of emission control devices on European cars. On a highly loaded bearing, such as what you have here, the hydrodynamic film lubrication breaks down and the boundary layer lubrication, as provided by the zinc, becomes necessary to prevent metal to metal wear. The use of low to mid SAPS Euro spec oils sacrifices boundary condition wear protection for extended catalytic converter life, and so I'm not surprised that the Redline lubricated bearing showed more wear. The ACEA C3 spec calls for higher hot kinematic viscosity and greater high temperature high shear film strength for better hydrodynamic lubrication in higher-powered engines. This higher viscosity would contribute to greater fluid drag during the test, hence the higher load on the motor with a higher current draw. The Euro-spec oil has a significantly higher viscosity at 40 deg C(warm room temp) as compared to the Professional grade oil and so I would expect the Euro-spec oil to pour more slowly than the Professional grade near room temp.
Amsoil makes a Euro-spec oil that has similar characteristics to the Redline oil that you used and so I think it would have been a better apples to apples comparison if you had used either both Euro-spec oils in the test or had used both non Euro-spec oils. For users in North America, I think the non Euro-spec oil comparison would have been the better test to make.
Jim Nesta very good point. Amsoil probably gave him a cut under the table.
The results are fishy !
By his results the wear would be 15 or 14 times greater then the amsoil and that is clearly not the case at the end with the pic.
Also you see 16.30 on scale but were does 16.29 come from ?
Those wear scars look identical and one is not 15 times bigger then the other !
Thanks for watching
Yep
Yes i use the different redline in new videos
There is oil ring on the table you should have cleaned the bearings of oils
I think Amsoil is better but I like Redline better because so many Amsoil users act like fanatical cult members.
Redline is better. Trust me
It is actually so true!))))
@@el34glo59Project farm and literally every real world test would beg to differ. 😂😂😂
Redline
Your bearing weights make no sense. The scars are virtually identical, but one lost "0.15" grams and the other lost "0.01" grams... Unless you're using previously damaged bearings, there just isn't any way that is accurate.
Look at the numbers and do the math. Also the redline was larger, it would not show as much side to side, because it's a cylinder resulting in a larger mass of material coming from the center of the wear mark. The depth of the wear mark would be optically more revealing although the weight measurement doesn't rely on an optical perspective.
Please do Redline OEM 5W40 vs Amsoil 5W40! Not the Euro series please. OEM vs OEM. And Euro series vs Euro series. Would be fair to check the results.
This test may not be as important as the fact that the 0w oils slide off parts much more than 5w or 10w oils. Gets there faster? After slaming dry? Modern cars are being destroyed and burning 0il because of green mandates to destroy petrol transportation!?! Smart old mechanics are going to higher viscocity to avoid 0il burning!!!
And you comparing AMSOIL's base OE oil instead of the Signature series...lol
I'm wondering why you aren't using Signature series but OE? That would be a fair comparison. I'm a diehard Amsoil user and surprised by Redline results
Amsoil signature series and more redline oils
Could you test Amsoil OEM vs Amsoil Signature? It could be interesting
Thanks for you videos, I love them!
You sound like Sean from Tokyo Drift.
Redline is my favorite oil and always will be.
Absolutely i always use redline manual transmission fluid.
That makes no sense. To each his own I guess.
That’s an incorrect comparison. You should’ve compared the Redline OE (professional series) line with Amsoil OE.
But instead you compared Redline performance oil with Amsoil OE. The fair comparison would be using Amsoil Signature Series vs Redline Performance Oil.
But even so Amsoil still won
I’m generally a fan of AMSOIL as an oil for some applications. And Redline for others. There’s a lot more to oil than the tests he purports to show here. We have no idea what the temperatures of the oils are, and as a general comment proper flow tests are performed differently than what he shows here, and under varying temperatures.
Btw the wear scars look identical, so I don’t know where he’s getting the weight differences from, it’s the same sized bearings, if it took out more material the scar should’ve been twice the size.
I use AMSOIL in one of my cars and Redline in another, AMSOIL signature 5w30 in my family SUV, and Redline 0w20 in my performance daily driver. I do love AMSOIL oil filters and use them in both applications.
I think you have tested oils at cold temperture, you need to do it again at 100c, I am sure you will have different results
Honestly everyone can agree these are hands down both the 2 best oils u can buy on the market but Amsoil is a little better
Will redline 5w30 full syn stop the hemi tick?
Redline all day everyday for so many reasons
Such as what?
Same here, especially for the hemi!
@@tomsuica8731 nothing factual or scientific that's for sure.
All because the name sounds cool that doesn’t make it better
Look at diff wear in 10000hp top fuel drag cars you Muppets red line is superior to all other brands
I'm ready to drink the Amsoil Kool-aide
Or WERE DOES 16.29 COME FROM visually for Redline in video ? As you say 16.30 verbally ?
Also you tested redline in another vid and when comparing wear in GRAMS seems there a big difference of like .0933 difference.
Something seems fishy or not correct.
I'm going to buy my own tester very soon after I find best deal on a quality testing machine.
I'm excited. Based on the price of those two i would say its gonna be redline. but im guessing amsoil Signature would win
Amsoil is definitely better than i thought
NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO same here. I thought the Redline would be at least close to the Amsoil, but it’s not.
@@TheNortheastAl I'm still a diehard Redline customer lol
hes not using amsoil sig tho
James J. McCloud nothing wrong with that. I say, if it works for ya, use it.
My 2002 Ford F-150 FX4 has Amsoil fluids in it from front to back.
It has never ran better or smoother.
I'll never use anything but Amsoil.
Redline is a group v oil and amsoil and Mobil is a group iv oil
I read Mobil One went to group III.
I do not know why one would consider these "tests" useful in predicting oil performance inside an engine.
Viscosity number should correspond to flow rate, if two oils with same rating are compared, and one flows faster then it has lower viscosity at given temperature so it is out of spec, it is too thin, is not better.
Oil rated at 5 should be 5 and not 4 or 3 or 0. This will not make it better, it will make it different grade of oil.
Wear test is altogether odd, it just likes thinner oils. The thinner the oil - the better results it will produce not to mention inconsistency in the way that test is designed.
This "testing" wants to look like it is scientific but it is not, this is a show.
The Amsoil Prmium membership is only $20 per year, one oil change and you're even, 2 and you're ahead. If I didn't have 4 years worth of full synthetics laying around, I'd consider it.
I think they are both really great oil. I have used Amsoil in all my vehicles before I owned my Ram. The 5.7 Hemi with the MDS loves moly though and the Redline has way more moly in it than the Amsoil. So at least while I own my hemi I will be using Redline. All other vehicles I would use the Amsoil.
You mentioned your hemi likes moly. I am considering trying Toyota Genuine motor oil in my Ram. It has a great additive package and is API SN certified. I have found where it lists like 700ppm of moly also. What would your thoughts be?
AMSOIL Signature Series or Boosted, K&N Oil Filters, and Motorkote is a great combination.
AMSOIL
Not even using signature series by amsoil and euro redline not even gonna watch lol
Y esa prueba no sería mas real hacerla a temperatura de trabajo del motor? A temperatura ambiente no me dice nada la lubricación de ningún aceite.
REDLINE 💯👍
maybe amsoil's high end signature series oil would have been better against redline
RED ist the best Oil
Anytime you’re comparing Amsoil to another premium competitor it really should be signature series. Otherwise you’re comparing apples and oranges.
Hey for comedy purposes, wear a fake Rolex after doing an Amsoil test where they won.
Lmao
it ain't even the signature series.
Wow! Amsoil OE is very good oil indeed!!
Amsoil all the way try running it for 25k and beyond read line sucks and royal purple 3 party testing concludes amsoil beats all the oils 10 times better!
Before I continue the video, AMSOIL of course.
Amsoil all day long, there is no oil on a market that beats Amsoil bottom line.
You need to choose oils of the same spec. I.e vw504/507 as then you can see what the relative performance is through the competitors different oil specs
Thats what im putting together
My bike guy says that amsoil is causing clutch slippage.
Hey but I don’t know if you got the oils mixed up but the first two tests contradict the bearing test at the end. Also from an engineering stand point Red Line also won Test 1 and Test 2.
is full syn same as 100% syn
confusing as hell. i buy european and it is clear
You show load test results of 3.?? For both but never say what that number represents and why wouldn’t you check the temperature of the bearings while using the load test machine?
Surprising, I thought red line was the best
What would be the best oil to use in a 1982 Honda silverwing gl500 ❓
- VALVOLINE'S Top Of The Line: MODERN ENGINE FULL SYNTHETIC OIL (gold cap).
Great test! I say add additives to oils to see which is best.
test valvoline syn , motul, liqui moly, shell rottela 6
Redline Redline REDLINE... Best Oil Period ... A very close 2nd is MOTUL
Great oils what can we try next?
Motul? Are you serious? There are plenty of better ones.
I see you’re drinking that redline Kool-Aid
Not sure why you didn't use signature series.
I wanna see what this guy looks like, sounds like the guy from fast and furious Tokyo drift,
INVALID TESTING !
Your testing Amsoil OE against Red line HIGH PERFORMANCE oil.
Should be Amsoil OE vs Redline PROFESSIONAL OEM oil !
People asked for this formula of redline but i thought it could surely beat amsoil oe but signature series or not amsoil is still good quality but so is redline
Good test good job
Why didn’t you test the xl boosted against vs redline
The pour test shows amsoil is thinner and leaves the parts with less oil
That's opposite of how it works.
Doesn’t matter the results; I simply cannot justify purchasing the Amsoil yearly subscription fee, merely to buy their oil. No thank you. Even if it is the best oil, which likely it is not, but even so, there are excellent motor oils which will protect your beloved engine, st much reduced cost, if changed at specified intervals.
Agree with your assessment about oil change interval. But you dont need a subscription fee to buy Amsoil. Only a preferred customer fee, if you choose to buy it at a lower cost than retail
Amsoil is Awesome... Can you mix Amsoil with Motorkote?
Nick Jenneboer I agree with nick
Would be great to see a test, Amsoil with Motorkote vs Amsoil without Motorkote.
Yes, two perfect products and combinations!
amsoil claims they are compatible with other oils and additives. amsoil doesn't use aggressive additive packages like most other oils do so amsoil plays nicer with other oils. so you could make your own high mileage synthetic blend.
Stop making videos
thanks for that heads up testing, I would never have believed that about redline.we in the race and performance area always put redline at the top, unless there race oils differ greatly from retail use.
Dude, love how u used aquarium gravel vacs for your testing!.
Amsoil 5w-30 ACEA A5/B5 & ilsac gf-5 vs Red Line ACEA C3 ? 😂😂😂
Crazy man)))))
Amsoil is good, but I drive a Mopar. That means I use Redline. No hemi tick for me
Redline ❤
Amsoil, you will see or maybe I ?...
Today I purchased Amsoil Signature Series 0W-40. Signature Series is the oil that can go to 25,000 miles or one year. It is the oil I have always wanted to try. I purchased it in advance but I still won't do the oil change for about a month or two.
Awesome let us know if you notice a difference and i also have signature series on the way
I switched from mobile 1 extended performance to Amsoil SS and motor was alot quieter and mileage went up but only a tad. I couldn't find a amsoil filter so I used mobile 1 extended performance oil filter. I still change it every 7000 miles though. 1999 Pontiac firebird v6 140000 miles
Both being 5w30, shouldn't have that difference in flow at 1st test. Wouldn't Something be wrong like different temperatures or partial blockage at exit on the right tube? That is pretty odd.
I agree after the 1st couple of seconds the differential was the same
You are awesome 👍
I think something is fishy or mistake in video.
1. In video you say Redline bearing weighs 16.30 grams after test . WERE DOES 16.30 EVEN COME FROM ?
2. If your calculations are correct the Redline bearing wear scar should be 15 times the size of the wear scar of the Amsoil wear scar and by looking at bearing picture at the end THAT IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE as the wear scars look NEARLY IF NOT IDENTICAL !
Are you an amsoil dealer ?
I MEAN WERE DOES 16.30 EVEN COME FROM ?
Think about it wear scars clearly look identical and in vid you reference 16.30 verbally and 16.29 visually on vid for Redline which would make same wear scar for Amsoil and Redline.
Expected after following all the championship, I'm a little disappointed with Redline it got its behind kicked against Mobil 1 it would never be a good challenger against Amsoil.
It's the one oil I've used in my VW golf R that does minimal wear to the high pressure fuel pump cam follower. I'm able to go 3 times longer without changing it, it also doesn't burn as easily as other oils. Mobile one was Theodore I've used for oil consumption. Over 10000 km I lose half a quart of redline where mobile one was 1.5 - 2
I like that Redline seems a bit heavier on the flow test, for summer use...
Just checked Walmart and all the Mobil 1 extended performance are $25.77
Great test but I'd go back and retest Amsoil vs Redline but add Motorkote to Redline. And see if Motorkote helped Redline. Would be a great test to see if Motorkote actually helps.
ubangiestomp Add some Amsoil to it that should help lol
Pouring by hand like in your first test is horrible, I stopped watching at that point.
Mobile 1
Can you try AMZOIL Vs Acdelco ?
That’s like comparing Jenna Jameson to Tammy fay baker. 🙄
This channel is a ripoff of project farm
I dont understand oil was being tested the same way over ten years ago on TH-cam also go back to the tournament meaning the very first video he declared to be a tournament video look at the date then look at my first video that i declared a tournament video mine was first its ok with me. But i dont consider a video of mine or his the start of the tournament if i made a old video then later started a tournament and there after counted the video from the past as part of it because that means you didn't figure out the tournament idea until you first mentioned in your video and then made the video but its important people know i made the tournament from my own idea because college basketball is big where i live.
Street Racing Therapy there are many oil tests that are similar, and Nate does a good job of comparison. He’s not ripping off anyone else’s videos.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO Brother don't pay attention to that comment, That aint nothin but hating at its finest your real people know what's up! Thanks for the video, I been waiting for this 1!!!!
Your high right now ain't u haha
You can say the same about almost every single video on TH-cam lol it TH-cam you idiot
I never used before redline but amsoil for sure is great , ibtried to switch on different oils from amsoil and they just don’t work as good as amsoil, now I will try redline
Give us an update on which one you like better
These tests are meaningless. There is a good chance that bottom shelf Kmart brand synthetic could surpass these oils using the tests put forth. Real world pumpability, wear and add pack retention are real tests along with oil analysis after use. I don't understand all these videos with the same meaningless tests.
Amsoil is shi*