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FINAL RANKINGS Am I missing something as some filters lower on the list have an overall LOWER number when all numbers added together vs filters higher up on the list ?
DONT KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO TEST FOR THIS DEFECT OF BYPASS VALVE NOT BEING FULLY SEALED ? th-cam.com/video/isgBoJdxP7I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dYPcz-3JSCkd7CPA
I was wondering if one thing to consider is the weight of oil used in the vehicle vs the restrictive flow testing you performed simulating 5W30 and 5W40 when hot I think it was ? For example my car takes 0W16 oil, so I'm thinking because of the lower weight or lower viscosity of 0W16 it would be "less restrictive " in testing for flow vs the ratings you got in your testing simulation 5w30 and 5w40. Am I thinking correctly on that ?
I am an HVAC business owner and Home Performance specialist. Filtration is huge in HVAC and you have to look at all variables. I have to say is that there are some very specific things you want to look at in the filtration world. In an ideal world, you want a filter that flows well, filters well and has a high capacity. You can't have them all. You have to pick what things are most important to you. The K&N AIR filters are free flowing and technically can make more power because they do not filter worth a darn. Same issue applies here. The Fram Endurance and Amsoil filters are identical filters made in the same plant by Champion labs. All the filters tested and shown at 10:20 are either made by Champion labs or Mann-Hummel. It's pretty simple math. The Fram Endurance and Amsoil filter nearly the best but the media is full Synthetic which filters really well to 20 microns and clogs fast. The question is how fast and how often should you change it before it hits the bypass or before the filter is actually clogged to increase oil pressure? I hate to say this, but if the data is accurate on this chart, then the Purolator BOSS wins pretty much across the board. Never thought I would say that. And before anyone gets their underwear in a bunch, think about the differences all over the table. I will probably still use the Amsoil EAO34/Fram FE3600 which are a different filter than they tested on this test. The Amsoil EAO filter product line and Fram Endurance / Royal Purple Extended Life filters are the 25k mile filters, not the 15k filter used in this test. For the most part, they are just bigger filters, and nobody should be doing 15k-25k oil changes anyways. Now I need to go buy two Purolator Boss filters that match the EAO34/FE3600 filters to cut one open and inspect new and use one for an oil cycle. Both of my personal vehicles recommend 10k mile changes, but we do between 5000-7500 miles, with various testing oils sent to Blackstone labs. I am putting together oil analysis between five vehicles, with different filters and oils. It just takes a little while to put miles on besides the work vans. Anyways, food for thought!!
Your point about 20 microns "clogging fast" ... there's more to the story than just micron size. The amount of filter media, and the style of media construction can vary. Surface loading design vs. depth loading design makes a difference in how long it takes to "clog". Also more capture media surface area, means more contaminant can be captured, and still retain good flow. The PB seems to have more media and more pleats to go along with its smaller orifice derived from the synthetic media. As you stated "simple math" ... but, that includes ALL the math (i.e. surface area of the capture media, horizontal / vertical profile of pleat angles, etc.). Going by micron size alone isn't the only indicator ... as we can see by the performance diff's for similar sized (synthetic) media.
Purolator and Wix are subsidiaries of Mann+Hummel. Mann is the OE supplier for many Mercedes, BMW, VWAG, and other auto manufacturers. Filtration is the weak link in any automotive application. You shouldn't be stretching your intervals further than 7k miles. Especially if you have direct injection and turbochargers.
I disagree with your statement about 15k oil changes. I use amsoil in every car truck and motorcycle i own. In every car and truck I change my oil with amsoil at the 15k interval to include the amsoil filter. I have been doing this for over 10 years and never have i blown an engine or had any mechanical failures as a result! Even in my motorcycles my oil changes are limited to 1 year intervals or 5000 miles and my diesels 15k miles plus or one year. Now with that being said I have lotlgged millions of miles on amsoil oil and filters every fluid in my vehicles is amsoil to include all filters. I have broken down my engines and transmissions on amsoil they look as clean as the day they rolled off the assembly line. I have used the other oils filters and broken down those engines down to find wear sludge and all types of trash in the heads and lower end i have a keen eye for detail as I was a mechanic and aerospace engineer for 20 years so i and see a cheap gimmick a mile away. Amsoil simply keeps impressing me time and time again and believe me i go out of my way to find a flaw in the product and I have yet to have a single complaint other then the high price of the product but the proofs is in the results!
I love how you just reference Project Farm as if he's a household name because you just know that in this audience, he is 😂. You guys are like his prodigal sons. Great tests. Slowly being more constrained was odd to watch unfold, but you paid it off.
Indeed he is! His videos are awesome! Thank you for the kind words. Lol, it was a joke based on the previous video were I excessively moved my arms, didn't noticed until the comments on the last video started rolling in, haha.
He seems to be a smart person but I don't feel that using lawn mowers and generators give everything a fair test. I have used Hot Shots Secret FR3 in my Nissan and I did notice a difference. His tests would lead you to believe that there was no difference because those lawn mower and generator engines run at fixed speeds typically. With the engine in a car the speed varies quite a bit and that is when you start to notice what difference there is if there is any at all. If you have bad luck just get some stuff that has a money back guarantee so you can get your money back if it turns out that you were right and it was just more of the same stuff. It is easy to become cynical with so many products being similar and then they are all just as mediocre. That is to say that _most_ of those additives that make miraculous claims are very similar and often seem to do nothing,
Watching his hand restraints get ever more restrictive made me laugh at first and then I realized it was a reference to Scotty Kilmer's flailing hands😂
This is what is needed in this segment of TH-cam. The guys who just cut open filters only goes so far. Seeing how they actually perform is the crucial information. Don't know about you, but im willing to sacrifice flow for filtration. Same with my air filter. Napa gold. Replace every other oil change to maintain flow. 10k for me.
I respect the Project Farm shoutout at the beginning. Not saying his tests are always the best, but really appreciate anyone that admit that their testing is not perfect and recommends people to do their own research and due diligence. Imo this is a sign of integrity and respect for others. The only type of people I trust to help inform me to make the best decision for me.
These are the only oil filter tests and comparisons on youtube worth anything of note and im here for it! Thanks for all the hard work and figuring out how to do this for people, because these are impressive tests and solid data!
@@lucasfallert4031 Not sure exactly to what you're referring. Larger area means more flow, yes. But that only becomes an issue as the filter nears plugging. Most of the time, there is more than enough area to maintain flow. I ran 15k filters to 25k+ a number of times without issue. I figured they were the same filters, why not. I figured it was Amsoil being safe. They were good for 25k originally, why not later. Never was an issue in a Toyota Corolla. May have been an issue in other engines that shed more metal.
I had an 09 Traverse 3.6 that trashed every oil/fiter combination I tried. Royal Purple, Mobil 1, Pennzoil, Dexos. At 5K they were all black as charcoal. I tried Amsoil and their filter. At the next 5K change it came out amber like Coca-Cola. Sold. Thank you for the videos. You validated my results. Can’t wait for your next one!!
SO EXCITED FOR THIS! about to watch it. You guys should do OEM oil filter shoot outs! With a Japanese manufacturer shoot out, along with American, etc!
ur first video got recommended to me and got me into binge watching all of ur vids!! keep up the good work and i am looking forward to see more test videos!
Great work fellas, It would be fantastic if you guys could incorporate the heavy duty side of filtration. Donaldson, Fleetgaurd, Caterpillar, Luberfiner, Baldwin, Volvo, to name a few. The information would certainly be awesome. Thank-you
Wow, this video is a game-changer for car enthusiasts and engineers alike! The rigorous testing process showcased here highlights the importance of using high-quality oil filters. The detailed analysis and visual comparisons provide valuable insights into the performance of each filter.The fact that you guys pushed the limits to extreme conditions demonstrates a commitment to excellence in engineering. The findings will undoubtedly help inform informed decisions when choosing the best oil filter for specific vehicle needs. Hats off to the team for conducting such a comprehensive and informative test. I'm looking forward to seeing more exciting experiments and tests from your team in the future. Keep pushing the boundaries of innovation and sharing your expertise with the world!🎉
That really depends on how you precieve the testing. It can also make the case for running the cheapest filter as well. Only the top performers where significant improvements and only in specific area's. They are always the most expensive and you still are not get a fantastic filter that does it all. If the engine is clean and well maintained and your air filter is doing it's job the oil filter should not be doing much. Especially if the oil is changed regularly and is a very high quality synthetic oil. You air filter doing it's job and not having any leaks in the air intake tract is super important to keep dust out.
This is definitely a game changer for me. I have devised a strategy to try and get the best of both worlds for tuner enthusiasts. After every oil change use a amsoil filter and drive it nice(because of reduced flow) for 100 miles or so to grab all the junk particles from the xp that barely filters then swap over to the wix xp filter and top off for your hard driving and high boost applications. A little more expensive but useful if you are trying to keep old german cars alive like those 1.8ts...
Thank you SOOO much! Your support is immensely appreciated. These tests are quite expensive and your donation help a lot towards that goal! Again, thank you for your support!
Man I really enjoy watching your videos! I’d love to see a test of some cullulose/ synthetic blend media filters such as the original wix, the red purolator, purolator one, the Bosch premium, and perhaps some OEM brands like Motorcraft, mopar, and ac Delco would be awesome! Keep up the good work!
@@Darkcruzer23 oh for sure but most of the stuff I’ve owned is older and uses conventional oil and filters so I’ve always been curious how they hold up
always great when you guys release another oil filter video. Excellent work. Interesting to see that a $20 price tag does not mean the absolute best filter.
@lukedonaldson1 we are glad, you enjoyed it. We try to have fun while doing these videos, and it's rewarding when you guys enjoy it! Thanks for watching!
I would like to see a some Cat filters tested. They're the best constructed filters I've seen by far. I'd like to know the test differences between the regular ones and advanced high efficiency too. Great video series.
@@joshquiroz No, I worked at a CAT dealer for several years. They are made by Donaldson. In fact most off road equipment companies filters are made by Donaldson.
You can run your car without an oil filter and the engine would still be "shine inside" if you changed your oil often enough but it would also probably be worn out.
Here is my opinion, do with it what you please. For the record this is the humble opinion of a physicist/car enthusiast. That is to say, do not trust me, verify what I say, if it checks out draw your own conclusion. 1) Particle Size Studies have shown (there are many look them up, Barris Marty is a good place to start) the size of particles which cause the most damage to piston rings and wear on the cylinder walls/sleeve are below 40 microns. If you want a quick explanation I can tell you that due to their lack of mass and propensity for overheating, they tend to accumulate on cylinder walls. Due to emission laws and the eagerness to improve mpg, manufacturers have lowered tolerances in piston rings, which further stops rings from dislodging the accumulation of particles on cylinder walls. Eventually these particles will cause wear on the cylinder walls and seize piston rings which leads to even more wear. 2) Oil Pressure During normal operating rpm, 2-3k, the oil pressure due to mechanical pressure is about 50-70 psi. Higher rpms and tighter tolerances can only increase pressure. Oil pressure is a good thing, it makes sure thar an engine is properly lubricated. The oil pressure is high in a normal operating engine, meaning that there is little to no pumping being done, at that point the oil pump is essentially a one way valve. Finally, 100% of the oil isn't going through the filter media, regardless of filter, at thousands of rpms the engine needs constant lubrication (specially engines using vvti and other variable valve timing engineering) and at thousands of cycles per minute the oil would disintegrate the filter media. The bypass valve during normal operation does not behave as a bypass valve, instead it is used to provide retardant pressure to force as much oil through the filter media as possible. In this regard the Mann filter is a complete failure, as it would essentially block filtration during normal rpms. If there is anything to take away from this video is that the Amasoil filter is the only filter which does what its suppose to do. Furthermore, the Mann filter has a needlessly poor design.
what about the k&n which was similar and removed an insane amount of particles are 21-40 microns? this comment definitely gave a lot of useful info thanks
I have been considering putting amsoil bypass filters on my cars for years. I would love love love if you would test them. honestly I think you should ask them to sponsor your video. If their filters proved awesome in your tests then I would buy 3 set ups in short order.
I would be interested in a size chart that notes which filters have identical designs but are different in length. I would then choose the tallest one I could fit in my car to get a step change improvement in each of your tests. In fact that would be a great next test: take a highly rated filter, and test it against the exact same filter but different length. Pretty please.
I'm beginning to think that a filter that finishes in the middle/front of the pack (like the Mann) is the best compromise. Thank you for opening my eyes! Now.... Bosch Premium please!
I just read the NAPA GOLD is better than the premium WIX XP by a lot. Both filters are made by WIX. Also, it was suggested that WIX is now making their filters in China. I just bought a NAPA GOLD filters for my F150 for over $17!!! I still think any WIX/NAPA filter is a good bet.
mann hummel owns champ, wix, and purolator. Napa gold is the black wix. Napa fleet is wix white. Never had either made outside USA for any 70s to 2010s vehicles or equipment I have worked on ever
@@davidweum NAPA gold filters are now made by various manufactures. You might get a filter made by Wix, you might get a filter made in China, and there are several other subcontractors making NAPA gold filters now. It can depend on where you live as well as NAPA does not like shipping filters (or other things) farther than needed. NAPA went into PR damage control after it was identified that they no longer appeared to use Wix on a popular TH-cam auto repair channel. Please see the "What's in the box" video on the "Royalty Auto Service" TH-cam channel about how NAPA answers all questions on their Oil Filters - posted about June 2024 (currently 6 months ago from when I posted this comment).
Been using Amsoil oil for decades and all my engines have make it to 500,000km (300,000km) I was using Amsoil filters but now I use Fram Ultra. 0 issues and my engine is spotless inside (using a boroscope) and compression is still factory on my current vehicle at 200K miles (320K KM)
🥱😴 a good engine design and just basic run of the mill store brand synthetic and an OEM quality filter could have produced the same results for all you know. 🤷🏻♂️
@@CedroCron - yea but obviously you’ve never compared the Amsoil to any other off the shelf synthetic. Like I said… what if the results will be THE SAME?!?! 😏😆
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about Yes I have... I don't buy premium when economy will do. I have lab data showing the difference. But you buy what suits you.
Great video! Exact! It’s interesting that you said the Mann filter with 153.5 particle count at the smallest particle range was “impressive”, where Amsoil had a count of 6.9 in the same range! Now THAT’S impressive. The Mann filter had over 20 times more particulate in the oil! With daily driver cars, the rpm is only above 3000 for a few seconds until it shifts and runs steady between 1200 and 1800 rpm, so the oil pump gpm I would guess would run around 4 to 6, way below the filter bypass valve setting.
Oh wow, this is the way to test things. No one can touch you, you are years ahead of every one else. You mentioned Project Farm in the video and even though his attempt is honest and with good intentions he does not have the level of "controlled testing" that you do. No body else does, just you. Period. Thank you so much. Now, I'm hoping that you will also device a way to test oils (volatility, viscosity, lubricity, friction, cleaning power, etc.) and get results that can actually help in real life. Yes, I also watched Project Farm oil testing but those results (after a very careful analysis) were all over the place (since he was not using such mindful controlled testing as you do). His data is not too useful, except for getting TH-cam viewers count, unfortunately. Your videos are truly useful in a day to day scenario, in a real life scenario. this is a certified hood classic
I've used Mobil 1 EP oil and filters for 20 years. My vehicles run like new. I'm a fanatic and this combo has worked for me! 2cars with 270k miles and pulling like new. Funny thing, I just ordered 6 BOSS Filters to try.😮
You guys continue to out-do yourselves! Not only are your finding empirical vs. opinion, but you also do a fantastic job at explaining the information in simple terms. And the cumulative hand restriction was hilarious! 😆Keep up the great work!
I was expecting to see AMS oil do better! Mann and Mobil 1 seemed to be great compromise options. And I still like K&N if you’ve ever held one the filter body construction feels extremely durable. I personally use the Tokyo Roki Oem filter on my Subaru STI and K&N on my Saab. Would like to see how WIX XP and Bosch premium do!
Thank you for watching, we tested the WIX XP on a previous video, make sure to go check it out. we will be testing the Bosch soon. Thank you again. Make sure to subscribe so you don't miss it.
Well, the Amsoil may have a slightly higher flow restriction (12 vs 9-11 psi, hardly a major delta), but that's the only filter that actually filtered out 21-38 micron particles, the other three didn't do jack squat in that range. There's obviously a strong correlation here, if you don't filter, your flow restriction will be spectacularly low (hello, Mobil1) 😀
Filtration is exactly why I use Amsoil over the others. The amount of time an engine spends with the bypass valve closed vs open is why filtration is my most important consideration. Great testing!
+1 for amount of time the bypass valve is open (cold) vs. closed. To go along with that ... if the oil is that cold, then the engine components are also cold (i.e. greater clearances), until things warm up a bit. One can get hyperfocused on the cold psi stat, but if you think it through, it makes a very small portion of time in the life of the engine that it applies. Also, if you simply allow the engine to idle a bit at start up, it is under a low load during this warming period. If it is THAT COLD, then you need to adjust your oil's Winter Weight (W) ... rather than use a filter that lets more contaminant through. Good to see Amsoil in (my) TOP 5. But, for those who don't want that much filtration, it's good to know that there are a few options that are only a little bit behind the Amsoil.
@@kentsouthers6244 this is also why I use 0w-40 rather than 5w-30 in the winter. The 40 weight applies to the simple fact that I’ve got 245k on my engine and it loves to burn oil (it’s a Honda thing). It’s time for an overhaul for my engine.
@@kentsouthers6244 Exactly. My Subaru uses 0w-30 and my two other cars use 5w-30. Both flow fine when they are below freezing and the 0w flowed great when I did an oil change once when the temp was below 0F
Thanks for taking viewer feedback to put Amsoil to the test. Fantastic data to allow different users to make more informed decisions. With Amsoil having the highest advertised micron rating, it's not terribly surprising to see it with higher flow restriction, imo. Then seeing it actually do the advertised filtering job was also good to see their claims backed up by testing. I currently run Amsoil filter on my 2015 Tacoma V6 and 2007 Accord I4. Seeing the flow restriction gave me some food for thought. Living in Auguata GA, I rarely see sub freezing temps. I think if i did live further North and regularly dealt with colder starts, I would be tempted to go with the Purolator boss. In fact, due to this series I'm considering switching regardless. Filtering is meant to prevent wear but if the filter is so restricted that the engine is oil starved, then it probably makes sense to have slightly less than the best filtering level to get that better flow rate. Great video.
@@LoveLikeaHurricane ROFL. I've never heard that before. That's funny. At least for the one used in this test, when cut open, it didn't appear to be torn. But that's good information to know. I'll need to dig into that.
If memory serves the critical micron size is between 3-5 (depending on engine) the distance between piston ring and cylinder wall. Larger particulates remain suspended in the oil or are caught by the filter. Point is, only an additional and restricted flow "bypass filter" removes particulates down to 1 micron.
Interesting! Happy to finally see the K&N on the new tester, the K&N PS-2001 that I daily drive has a bypass design closer to the "Mann" filter's design, albeit it's unique but the entire body moves via a spring on the bottom rather then the traditional plastic thingy. I'm surprised more companies don't implement the design as a single metal spring seems to me to be a way cheaper solution then a plastic piece, another spring, and stamped sheet metal to hold everything in place.
@@elpcmaster Yeah I'm very disappointed with the design of the K&N on here, I'm probably gonna switch to Mobile1 next oil change after verifying that it's design is somewhat decent. I've noticed some serious variances based on part models, for instance my vehicle has a 2WD and 4WD oil filter, literally the same exact motor, but the 2WD filter is half the size.
@@hammertime4257 Just because I praise some aspects of it doesn't mean I think it's the best there is. For my particular vehicle I prefer it as the design of the one on my vehicle is a lot different then the piece of crap shown in the video, as for why that is I have no idea.
Rewatching this and something occurred to me regarding the capacity test. If I understand the testing methodology, you keep introducing particulates until you reach the stated pressure difference indicatimg the filter media is saturated indicating the volume of particulates captured. This test would seemingly benefit a low micron filter though allowing for more of the particulates below the filtering media's threhold to remain in the oil while you must introduce enough of the test powder for there to be enough of the larger particles to saturate the filter media. The lower efficiency filter will not have actually captured all the introduced powder. It would make sense to me that a more efficient filter will fill up sooner with this test with fewer grams introduced without indicating which filter has a larger capacity, as part of fhe filter capacity for a lower filtering efficiency filter will be still in the oil. However, the test would still suggest which filters will become blocked sooner under real world conditions and therefore which maybe shouldn't be pushed to longer OCIs.
Best independent testing I've found. Would you consider doing endurence testing. I know it would take some time but would be very useful to the consumer. While any given filter might score well initially, what about simulating a time/miles test. Things like cold starts, sustained hot oil temps, pressure surges, sucking air from low oil uncovering pick up tube. I've heard of and personally seen the results of a failed oil filter. Things like seal blowing out, filter element coming apart, bypass valve sticking open or closed. My sone was driving a Ram 3500 diesel at a steady 70mph on the interstate with no load when the oil light flickered and the engine stopped. After a tow, the dealership determined that the filter media came apart blocking the inlet/outlet, stuck the bypass valve and blew out the gasket, then made a new gasket out of the loose filter media then ruptured the filter case and seized the engine. Ram bought him a new short block and installed under warranty only because it was a Mopar filter installed by the dealership.
I’ve tried several different filters on the same 2008 truck over the years every 5000 kilometres. For the past 3 ish years I’ve stuck with Mobil 1 because my engine starts quietly during cold Canadian winters. My engine is less smooth and louder (only on start up) with all other filters when it’s cold out. I would compare the louder sound I had as being similar to what an engine sounds like on first start up after having the oil changed. I don’t get that with the Mobil 1 at all, so I feel comfortable using that filter.
Thanks for doing these videos. 1K miles on my orange can of death and the 96 Honda Civic EX has valve tick when started very cold. Purolator Boss already purchased and I'm glad I made the right decision.
Loved this video! Really appreciate the great work you do on them. This is truly best way to test and understand a filter’s total capability! Just cutting it open and making physical evaluation that many people do on TH-cam isn’t doing anyone any favors as to which is the best oil filter!! Great job !!!!!! Makes me confident in sticking with my Purolator Boss choice. I was thinking about switching to Amsoil filter but will now stay with Purolator as it is nearly as good with filter performance, better flow restrictions, and definitely more dirt/contaminant capacity!!
Would love to see some OEM filters included, like AC Delco and so forth, so we can see how they compare to aftermarket. Would also be cool to also show the number results in the table, not just rankings. Just came across your videos and love them!
Basically Endurance and Amsoil are the same filter and Boss averages out to be the best one overall. XP and K&N have been overhyped and were never good filters.
Awesome vid, when I was living in NASCAR country, this guy swore by Wix filters, but not the platinum but the version below it, I believe it cross referenced with the Napa Gold filters.
Thank you guys for another awesome oil filter review 🤘🏻💪🏻👍😎🇺🇸 after watching fordbossme and your test results. The American made Purolator boss is going to be my main oil filter for the foreseeable future on ALL my vehicles!! Keep up the great work 🇺🇸👍😎🤘🏻💪🏻
LOL...green bands = not talking with your hands Got EEM!!! Keep em coming! I use WIX religiously on my vehicles...change the oil between 5000-7500 miles
The rank of each filter based on the category. A good example is the Purolator Boss, is ranking 3rd in Filtering, 4 in Hot Flow, 2 in cold flow and 1 in capacity. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
i would expect some of these results to altered rather radically when using a bigger filter size, say the old ph8A size of 5.1"... also, did this testing address the bypass pressure release rating differences, if any? the ph8A at 12psi, for instance.
Great video, I love these tests. As an Amsoil fan this was certainly interesting. You clearly demonstrated that the filter media and Amsoil is using seems to far ahead of everyone else tested. However the lack of capacity is concerning. Certainly driving home the point to never actually push these filters to their mileage limits. I do think that the Amsoil filter would great with Amsoil oil as that stuff somehow seems to flow better than almost any other I have seen as references by project farms videos and the fact that i myself have seen increased oil consumption or worse leaks from worn out engines when using amsoil vs other brands. While that sounds bad it really just points to amsoil being able to flow better and squeezing a larger amount of oil through very small imperfections or gaps. If you have a well maintained or new engine, this will result in less wear and better oil flow for bearings but in a worn out to very old engine it can simply make leaks worse or let more oil past piston rings and/or valve seals causing increased oil consumption.
To me, Amsoil SS is not a dedicated performance oil but it's an excellent daily drive kind of oil. Nice cold flow for cold starting and good cleaning capabilities, especially higher TBN. The viscosity is not very high but it's good for gas mileage. The price is also not that expensive if u have a membership.
@@multiluxem2218 what do you mean the viscosity is not very high? If it's, lets say, a 5W30 oil it has to fall within the test parameters for 5W30 to be rated a 5W30 oil etc. etc. right?
@@multiluxem2218 AMSOIL Signature Series oils surely are high performance oils. Like Amsoil says they are not for everyone, but are for those that appreciate and or need exceptional lubricants. For instance their Signature Series 0W40 is rated for Dodges with the high output engines like the Challenger that call for 0W40. And the 5W50 is speced for the Mustang and other high output engine Ford models. Then there is the Z Rod high zinc formula oils for hot rods & classic cars with flat tappet camshafts. Otherwise the Dominator Racing oils excell for hard core racing purposes. YES I am an AMSOIL fanboy and have been for over thirty years. I am also a small dealer only because I am a mechanic by trade and a retired amateur racer and have proven AMSOIL's performance to myself many times over. Ok?
@@oneninerniner3427 Yes. But 5w30 is actually a range of viscosity (9.3 to 12.5 cSt @100C), not representing a single viscosity. Oil from different manufacturers can have slightly different viscosity despite having the same viscosity grade. The kinematic viscosity of some Amsoil SS is actually on the relatively thinner side within the viscosity range (such as 5w30), like many big brand oil. This is listed on their product spec document. Some other oil, like Redline, may have higher kinematic viscosity, despite they are both 5w30. It doesn't mean Amsoil SS doesn't provide good protection, as there are many other things can affect it, such as additive package, etc. But lower kinematic viscosity may help lower mpg and better cold start.
I would like you to test used filters. It is time-consuming to change filters on my vehicles. Years ago it was common to change filters every other oil change. Now recommendations are to change the filter every oil change. I am now changing the oil every 5K miles and changing the filter every other oil change. Testing used filters would indicate how often a filter needs to be changed. Your test rig is awesome.
I think you should run this test again with the AMSOIL filter and using the AMSOIL Signature Series Oil. Because if AMSOIL designed this filter specifically for their oil (which would make sense) I would find that a more exact example. Not saying it would for sure change anything but just curious how different these values would be in that case. I have a feeling a lot of companies game the system to do really well on these standard tests rather than in real world applications.
i ran my 2016 lexus nx200t 3 ys, 2 mos & 2 days, (during pandemic), going 23,671 miles... running AMSOIL SS 0w20, that i use & sell, had it tested, only gained a little viscosity... 😍
Mobil 1 filters are available at Walmart for reasonable prices. I' ve been usiing them for years on my Corvettes and pickup trucks. All the engines have never had any wear problems.
I get my Amsoil filters for half the price you quoted... One of the cars i take care of used the exact filter you showed. Another car i take care of uses Mann filters (no Amsoil option available) So for between $10 and $14 I'll stick with the Amsoil ones and will gladly recommend the Mobil 1 to others that prefer something bought in a local store. Friends don't let friends pay full retail for Amsoil filters or oil. That particle test result was surprising... Surprising at how awful all the other filters were.
Haha! Thank you so much! We hope it does! A lot of fun making these videos but a lot of work and money so hopefully one day. Thank you for your support!
Issues, when did the bypass open rendering the filter useless? Micron rating, ie how well is it cleaning the oil? How much media is in each filter, ie how long will it really last. For me the interval will always be 5k for full synthetic in passenger style gas vehicle, 3k for diesel or hard working gas (trailering ect.). So the time at which it claims it will last is meaningless to me, but would be interested in contaminates filtered vs flow. If it flows well but filters less or not at all, or does it flow a little less oil but comes out pristine? Then at what gpm loss does a motor suffer or lose lubrication? This would determine the "best" filter.
You should throw the OG oil filter creator in Purolator Boss. I also prefer Wix XP when i can't find a Purolator Bossin stock. The Purolator is also the only one on the market that i could find that meets and excess Subarus specs for turbo cars.
I always used K&N HP-1008 on my 350z but now seeing it didn’t do that well I’m going to try the purolator boss this week. And it’s 3 bucks cheaper on Amazon vs the K&N
It would be interesting to see if there’s a difference between the AMSOIL EA15K which is in this video and the EAO filters which are supposedly meant for 25k miles …I recall learning somewhere that Wix manufacturers AMSOIL filters
How things have changed. Years ago, FRAM fell from grace and became the biggest piece of crap ever made, they used carbon steel staples and GLOBS of glue to secure the pleated paper, the elements were breaking apart and collapsing, blocking the flow in the filters! I NEVER used Fram on my 69' Charger and Barracuda with a Hemi and 383, and neither did any of my dozens of friends who had high performance engines. Wix, Purolator and GM were very good back in the 60's-80's, Happy to learn that Fram got their act together once again and straightened out their mess. Great VIDEO !
Would love to see you do one with Amaoil, Wix and any other winners you've had. If you actually take oil questions I have one for you that no one has seemed to be able to answer yet. Fantastic video guys thank you.
My engine has a VTC issue, which rears it head on super cold days. I suspect when it takes longer for oil to reach the top end. I have been using the Mobil 1 filter for its supposedly good flow. I see there are some other filters that might be as good or better for my needs. Thank you much for doing this testing.
The OEM filter that Volkswagen often sells is Mann. It can be Hengst or other brands but they are sourced in or near Germany. It would only make sense that they stay fairly local. That may be so that the parts don't cost a fortune in shipping. Also I tend to like German quality parts like their air and oil filters. Ever used Liqui Moly (Lubro Moly in Germany)? I have tried their oil and found myself using it again and again. It is about as expensive as Mobil 1 maybe a little bit more.
Thanks for this video, I just wish you had used the Amsoil EaO instead of the 15K. As its name implies, it is rated for 15K miles, that may have affected the holding capacity. I appreciate your commitment to keeping all conditions constant across your testing. One thing about efficiency, it has been noted that as the differential pressure (delta P) increases, some of the already captured particles are released affecting efficiency ratings. In your testing, you can't isolate that, but if you could stop the test when the delta P gets to 4psi, to compare to the particle count at 8psi (I think you stopped the test at 8) to get the efficiency at a lower delta P that might be helpful. An air filter will get more efficient as it loads up, but an oil filter will not. Keep up the good work!
Bob, thank you so much for all the info! We really wanted to do the EaO but unfortunately there was no cross reference to the filters we were using amsoil only offered a 15k oil filter. You have a good point on the efficiency, we went with the 8psi as it was the industry standard, but. Slower delta P could be very interesting to test.
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FINAL RANKINGS
Am I missing something as some filters lower on the list have an overall LOWER number when all numbers added together vs filters higher up on the list ?
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DONT KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO TEST FOR THIS DEFECT OF BYPASS VALVE NOT BEING FULLY SEALED ?
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I was wondering if one thing to consider is the weight of oil used in the vehicle vs the restrictive flow testing you performed simulating 5W30 and 5W40 when hot I think it was ?
For example my car takes 0W16 oil, so I'm thinking because of the lower weight or lower viscosity of 0W16 it would be "less restrictive " in testing for flow vs the ratings you got in your testing simulation 5w30 and 5w40.
Am I thinking correctly on that ?
I am an HVAC business owner and Home Performance specialist. Filtration is huge in HVAC and you have to look at all variables. I have to say is that there are some very specific things you want to look at in the filtration world. In an ideal world, you want a filter that flows well, filters well and has a high capacity. You can't have them all. You have to pick what things are most important to you. The K&N AIR filters are free flowing and technically can make more power because they do not filter worth a darn. Same issue applies here. The Fram Endurance and Amsoil filters are identical filters made in the same plant by Champion labs. All the filters tested and shown at 10:20 are either made by Champion labs or Mann-Hummel. It's pretty simple math. The Fram Endurance and Amsoil filter nearly the best but the media is full Synthetic which filters really well to 20 microns and clogs fast. The question is how fast and how often should you change it before it hits the bypass or before the filter is actually clogged to increase oil pressure?
I hate to say this, but if the data is accurate on this chart, then the Purolator BOSS wins pretty much across the board. Never thought I would say that. And before anyone gets their underwear in a bunch, think about the differences all over the table. I will probably still use the Amsoil EAO34/Fram FE3600 which are a different filter than they tested on this test. The Amsoil EAO filter product line and Fram Endurance / Royal Purple Extended Life filters are the 25k mile filters, not the 15k filter used in this test. For the most part, they are just bigger filters, and nobody should be doing 15k-25k oil changes anyways.
Now I need to go buy two Purolator Boss filters that match the EAO34/FE3600 filters to cut one open and inspect new and use one for an oil cycle. Both of my personal vehicles recommend 10k mile changes, but we do between 5000-7500 miles, with various testing oils sent to Blackstone labs. I am putting together oil analysis between five vehicles, with different filters and oils. It just takes a little while to put miles on besides the work vans.
Anyways, food for thought!!
Looking @ Purolator’s website, they are saying their Boss Series is a full synthetic filter media..good to know I suppose.
Your point about 20 microns "clogging fast" ... there's more to the story than just micron size.
The amount of filter media, and the style of media construction can vary. Surface loading design vs. depth loading design makes a difference in how long it takes to "clog". Also more capture media surface area, means more contaminant can be captured, and still retain good flow. The PB seems to have more media and more pleats to go along with its smaller orifice derived from the synthetic media.
As you stated "simple math" ... but, that includes ALL the math (i.e. surface area of the capture media, horizontal / vertical profile of pleat angles, etc.). Going by micron size alone isn't the only indicator ... as we can see by the performance diff's for similar sized (synthetic) media.
Over the years I have often seen Purolator do well in these comparisons.
Purolator and Wix are subsidiaries of Mann+Hummel. Mann is the OE supplier for many Mercedes, BMW, VWAG, and other auto manufacturers.
Filtration is the weak link in any automotive application. You shouldn't be stretching your intervals further than 7k miles. Especially if you have direct injection and turbochargers.
I disagree with your statement about 15k oil changes. I use amsoil in every car truck and motorcycle i own. In every car and truck I change my oil with amsoil at the 15k interval to include the amsoil filter. I have been doing this for over 10 years and never have i blown an engine or had any mechanical failures as a result! Even in my motorcycles my oil changes are limited to 1 year intervals or 5000 miles and my diesels 15k miles plus or one year. Now with that being said I have lotlgged millions of miles on amsoil oil and filters every fluid in my vehicles is amsoil to include all filters. I have broken down my engines and transmissions on amsoil they look as clean as the day they rolled off the assembly line. I have used the other oils filters and broken down those engines down to find wear sludge and all types of trash in the heads and lower end i have a keen eye for detail as I was a mechanic and aerospace engineer for 20 years so i and see a cheap gimmick a mile away. Amsoil simply keeps impressing me time and time again and believe me i go out of my way to find a flaw in the product and I have yet to have a single complaint other then the high price of the product but the proofs is in the results!
I love how you just reference Project Farm as if he's a household name because you just know that in this audience, he is 😂. You guys are like his prodigal sons. Great tests. Slowly being more constrained was odd to watch unfold, but you paid it off.
Indeed he is! His videos are awesome! Thank you for the kind words. Lol, it was a joke based on the previous video were I excessively moved my arms, didn't noticed until the comments on the last video started rolling in, haha.
He seems to be a smart person but I don't feel that using lawn mowers and generators give everything a fair test. I have used Hot Shots Secret FR3 in my Nissan and I did notice a difference. His tests would lead you to believe that there was no difference because those lawn mower and generator engines run at fixed speeds typically. With the engine in a car the speed varies quite a bit and that is when you start to notice what difference there is if there is any at all. If you have bad luck just get some stuff that has a money back guarantee so you can get your money back if it turns out that you were right and it was just more of the same stuff. It is easy to become cynical with so many products being similar and then they are all just as mediocre. That is to say that _most_ of those additives that make miraculous claims are very similar and often seem to do nothing,
@@charleshines2142 Placebo effect is a real thing. That's the point of bench testing. I'll trust his imperfect tests over your opinion.
I am an avid Project Farm fan and when I saw the title I knew PF was gonna be in there somehow. Love these videos
@@charleshines2142they most certainly do …….. nothing .😊
The hand and arm restraints progressively get more and more aggressive throughout the video had me dying 😂. Great video, as always 👌
@Adam-nv9zo, thanks for watching! We are glad you enjoy the video!
Lol his hands taped to the table made him unable to point at the camera.
Now it Scotty Kilmer's turn
Watching his hand restraints get ever more restrictive made me laugh at first and then I realized it was a reference to Scotty Kilmer's flailing hands😂
I noticed they are all green also, is that a reference towards MANN FILTER?
This is what is needed in this segment of TH-cam. The guys who just cut open filters only goes so far. Seeing how they actually perform is the crucial information.
Don't know about you, but im willing to sacrifice flow for filtration. Same with my air filter. Napa gold. Replace every other oil change to maintain flow. 10k for me.
I respect the Project Farm shoutout at the beginning. Not saying his tests are always the best, but really appreciate anyone that admit that their testing is not perfect and recommends people to do their own research and due diligence. Imo this is a sign of integrity and respect for others. The only type of people I trust to help inform me to make the best decision for me.
From the list, Purolator Boss seems the best overall pick. Thanks for the hard work testing all filters with real data!
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Why? It's filter efficiency sucks.
@@wiredforstereo ranked second for filtration "sucks"?
@@foojub6907 That doesn't mean anything.
@@wiredforstereo just like your comment
I’m glad channels like this exist to take the marketing gimmicks out of oil filters and expose the truth.
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❤ love your videos!!! Please do OEM filters next,
Please include Toyota filters!!!
@troy3052, we are glad you love the videos, we put a lot of effort into them. We are planning on doing OEM filters soon. Stay tuned!
Agreed. I'd love to see toyota and motorcraft filters tested.
@@Clayshooter100I can save you the trouble , Motorcraft filters are piss poor $4.00 junk
@@BrandRanksWould love to see the Honda A02 👍
Interesting testing. One thing I noticed is that the AMSOIL filter has the best rated filtering at 20 microns opposed to the 30 microns of the others
Flow is not as good though, definitely something to think about especially if you live somewhere with freezing temps
@@jaynikk758you could also put in a lower cold weight rated oil (ex: 0w-30 vs 5w-30) for your pre-winter oil change. That should help
A ratio of flow rate Vs filter performance (specifically around normal operating speeds and conditions) will be the best metric for me.
These are the only oil filter tests and comparisons on youtube worth anything of note and im here for it! Thanks for all the hard work and figuring out how to do this for people, because these are impressive tests and solid data!
Would love to see Amsoil EAO filter (25k mile) tested against the EA15K filter (15k mile)!
They're the same media. They just relabeled them at 15k miles early on because of capacity. I remember when this happened.
@@wiredforstereo, interesting. Flow should be improved as well though, due to more filter surface area?
@@lucasfallert4031 Not sure exactly to what you're referring. Larger area means more flow, yes. But that only becomes an issue as the filter nears plugging. Most of the time, there is more than enough area to maintain flow.
I ran 15k filters to 25k+ a number of times without issue. I figured they were the same filters, why not. I figured it was Amsoil being safe. They were good for 25k originally, why not later. Never was an issue in a Toyota Corolla. May have been an issue in other engines that shed more metal.
I had an 09 Traverse 3.6 that trashed every oil/fiter combination I tried. Royal Purple, Mobil 1, Pennzoil, Dexos. At 5K they were all black as charcoal. I tried Amsoil and their filter. At the next 5K change it came out amber like Coca-Cola. Sold. Thank you for the videos. You validated my results. Can’t wait for your next one!!
LOL on the tape and ropes. That's beautiful.
SO EXCITED FOR THIS! about to watch it. You guys should do OEM oil filter shoot outs! With a Japanese manufacturer shoot out, along with American, etc!
We are glad! Thanks for watching and the suggestions!
ur first video got recommended to me and got me into binge watching all of ur vids!! keep up the good work and i am looking forward to see more test videos!
Motor oil geek here- great content. Keep up the great work. Subbed!
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Wow! Great testing and maybe you can expand this to engine air filters someday.
Yes, great idea! Thank you for the support
Great work fellas,
It would be fantastic if you guys could incorporate the heavy duty side of filtration.
Donaldson, Fleetgaurd, Caterpillar, Luberfiner, Baldwin, Volvo, to name a few.
The information would certainly be awesome.
Thank-you
Thanks for the support and the suggestions!
Donaldson makes the filters for Caterpillar, Bobcat and several other OEMs.
Wow, this video is a game-changer for car enthusiasts and engineers alike! The rigorous testing process showcased here highlights the importance of using high-quality oil filters. The detailed analysis and visual comparisons provide valuable insights into the performance of each filter.The fact that you guys pushed the limits to extreme conditions demonstrates a commitment to excellence in engineering. The findings will undoubtedly help inform informed decisions when choosing the best oil filter for specific vehicle needs.
Hats off to the team for conducting such a comprehensive and informative test. I'm looking forward to seeing more exciting experiments and tests from your team in the future. Keep pushing the boundaries of innovation and sharing your expertise with the world!🎉
That really depends on how you precieve the testing. It can also make the case for running the cheapest filter as well. Only the top performers where significant improvements and only in specific area's. They are always the most expensive and you still are not get a fantastic filter that does it all. If the engine is clean and well maintained and your air filter is doing it's job the oil filter should not be doing much. Especially if the oil is changed regularly and is a very high quality synthetic oil. You air filter doing it's job and not having any leaks in the air intake tract is super important to keep dust out.
Wow! Thank you so much for this kind comment. your support is greatly appreciated!
But this is nothing new at all. Those things (filtration, bypass, quality of paper, oil analysis etc.) are in the textbooks since the 70's easily.
This is definitely a game changer for me. I have devised a strategy to try and get the best of both worlds for tuner enthusiasts. After every oil change use a amsoil filter and drive it nice(because of reduced flow) for 100 miles or so to grab all the junk particles from the xp that barely filters then swap over to the wix xp filter and top off for your hard driving and high boost applications. A little more expensive but useful if you are trying to keep old german cars alive like those 1.8ts...
Thanks!
Thank you SOOO much! Your support is immensely appreciated. These tests are quite expensive and your donation help a lot towards that goal! Again, thank you for your support!
Man I really enjoy watching your videos! I’d love to see a test of some cullulose/ synthetic blend media filters such as the original wix, the red purolator, purolator one, the Bosch premium, and perhaps some OEM brands like Motorcraft, mopar, and ac Delco would be awesome! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for your support. really appreciate your comment! All of those are great suggestions! we will be doing some OEMs soon.
the fram video they did, 2 were cellulose and 2 were synthetic and the synthetic did so much better
@@Darkcruzer23 oh for sure but most of the stuff I’ve owned is older and uses conventional oil and filters so I’ve always been curious how they hold up
always great when you guys release another oil filter video. Excellent work. Interesting to see that a $20 price tag does not mean the absolute best filter.
Also the restraints are funny af. All the comments from the last video yall took seriously LOL.
@lukedonaldson1 we are glad, you enjoyed it. We try to have fun while doing these videos, and it's rewarding when you guys enjoy it! Thanks for watching!
I thought the particle count was derived from the filtered oil meaning a better filter would yield lower particle counts in the oil. 7:39
I would like to see a some Cat filters tested. They're the best constructed filters I've seen by far. I'd like to know the test differences between the regular ones and advanced high efficiency too. Great video series.
Great suggestions! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel.
I would love to see Cat filters tested too
Are Cat filters made by fleet guard?
@@joshquiroz No, I worked at a CAT dealer for several years. They are made by Donaldson. In fact most off road equipment companies filters are made by Donaldson.
I use mobile 1 for over 25 years. All my engines are nice and shine inside. 👍🏾good video I learned a lot.
What is the longest you have left the same filter on? How many miles?
You can run your car without an oil filter and the engine would still be "shine inside" if you changed your oil often enough but it would also probably be worn out.
Thanks for doing a Mann filter. I've love to see a Baldwin and a Mahle, as well..... and ACDelco.
Thanks for watching and the suggestions!
Also add super tech😊
And Wix. I bet Wix will beat all these filters by far
@@BrandRanksso I didn't quit understand the mann back valve. Are you saying it's a better design or a worse design??
@@andymike6575Wix is on here and didn’t do to well.
I have been using Fram Ultra filters and will switch to Mobil 1 thanks to this video. I need higher flow for these big V8 engines.
I just might step up to the Synthetic Endurance after this.
@@ericchang5217 I have stocked up on a bunch of the Fram Titanium filters.
Here is my opinion, do with it what you please. For the record this is the humble opinion of a physicist/car enthusiast. That is to say, do not trust me, verify what I say, if it checks out draw your own conclusion.
1) Particle Size
Studies have shown (there are many look them up, Barris Marty is a good place to start) the size of particles which cause the most damage to piston rings and wear on the cylinder walls/sleeve are below 40 microns.
If you want a quick explanation I can tell you that due to their lack of mass and propensity for overheating, they tend to accumulate on cylinder walls. Due to emission laws and the eagerness to improve mpg, manufacturers have lowered tolerances in piston rings, which further stops rings from dislodging the accumulation of particles on cylinder walls. Eventually these particles will cause wear on the cylinder walls and seize piston rings which leads to even more wear.
2) Oil Pressure
During normal operating rpm, 2-3k, the oil pressure due to mechanical pressure is about 50-70 psi. Higher rpms and tighter tolerances can only increase pressure. Oil pressure is a good thing, it makes sure thar an engine is properly lubricated. The oil pressure is high in a normal operating engine, meaning that there is little to no pumping being done, at that point the oil pump is essentially a one way valve. Finally, 100% of the oil isn't going through the filter media, regardless of filter, at thousands of rpms the engine needs constant lubrication (specially engines using vvti and other variable valve timing engineering) and at thousands of cycles per minute the oil would disintegrate the filter media. The bypass valve during normal operation does not behave as a bypass valve, instead it is used to provide retardant pressure to force as much oil through the filter media as possible. In this regard the Mann filter is a complete failure, as it would essentially block filtration during normal rpms.
If there is anything to take away from this video is that the Amasoil filter is the only filter which does what its suppose to do. Furthermore, the Mann filter has a needlessly poor design.
what about the k&n which was similar and removed an insane amount of particles are 21-40 microns? this comment definitely gave a lot of useful info thanks
So if Valvoline Restore and Protect works as claimed then it would potentially be the best engine oil regarding your point #1.
I have been considering putting amsoil bypass filters on my cars for years. I would love love love if you would test them. honestly I think you should ask them to sponsor your video. If their filters proved awesome in your tests then I would buy 3 set ups in short order.
The results for Purulator Boss are incredible, great content !!
Yes, Thank you so much for watching. Glad you enjoyed!
I would be interested in a size chart that notes which filters have identical designs but are different in length. I would then choose the tallest one I could fit in my car to get a step change improvement in each of your tests. In fact that would be a great next test: take a highly rated filter, and test it against the exact same filter but different length. Pretty please.
Great idea! thanks you for the suggestions. we still have several to go, but we will look into it.
The FRAM endurance isn't even a FRAM built filter, but a filter built by Champ Labs ,who also builds the Amsoil filter
Same filter as the Amsoil.
@@elpcmaster & SuperTech & similar to AC Delco gold too
@@daewooparts most likey
I'm beginning to think that a filter that finishes in the middle/front of the pack (like the Mann) is the best compromise.
Thank you for opening my eyes! Now.... Bosch Premium please!
Thank you for watching! yes, it really depends on your needs and how often you change your filter.
Awesome instalment in the series. Would love to see Napa Gold (or WIX equivalent), AC Delco Ultragaurd Gold, Purolator One, and OEM options next.
Great suggestions! Thank you for watching and supporting the channel.
I just read the NAPA GOLD is better than the premium WIX XP by a lot. Both filters are made by WIX. Also, it was suggested that WIX is now making their filters in China.
I just bought a NAPA GOLD filters for my F150 for over $17!!!
I still think any WIX/NAPA filter is a good bet.
mann hummel owns champ, wix, and purolator. Napa gold is the black wix. Napa fleet is wix white. Never had either made outside USA for any 70s to 2010s vehicles or equipment I have worked on ever
@@davidweum NAPA gold filters are now made by various manufactures. You might get a filter made by Wix, you might get a filter made in China, and there are several other subcontractors making NAPA gold filters now. It can depend on where you live as well as NAPA does not like shipping filters (or other things) farther than needed.
NAPA went into PR damage control after it was identified that they no longer appeared to use Wix on a popular TH-cam auto repair channel.
Please see the "What's in the box" video on the "Royalty Auto Service" TH-cam channel about how NAPA answers all questions on their Oil Filters - posted about June 2024 (currently 6 months ago from when I posted this comment).
@@perryallan3524 I simply look on the box when I buy it. So far it's been "WIX" 100% of the time.
I would love to see a cartridge oil filter comparison.
Great suggestion! That would require several modifications, but we will look into it for the future. thanks for watching!
Excellent test once again! OEM filters video is gonna blow up.
Why? They aren't so special. They are only made to just barely meet a spec.
The level of effort and detail in these reviews is amazing. Ridiculously informative.
Thank you so much. It means a great deal to hear this. Thanks for watching!
Been using Amsoil oil for decades and all my engines have make it to 500,000km (300,000km) I was using Amsoil filters but now I use Fram Ultra. 0 issues and my engine is spotless inside (using a boroscope) and compression is still factory on my current vehicle at 200K miles (320K KM)
🥱😴 a good engine design and just basic run of the mill store brand synthetic and an OEM quality filter could have produced the same results for all you know. 🤷🏻♂️
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about Oil analysis reports say otherwise. But go ahead.
@@CedroCron - yea but obviously you’ve never compared the Amsoil to any other off the shelf synthetic. Like I said… what if the results will be THE SAME?!?! 😏😆
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about Yes I have... I don't buy premium when economy will do. I have lab data showing the difference. But you buy what suits you.
Couñt your blessings. Fram has a bad reputation. You've gone from bad to worse. Why DONT you use Amsoil filters now? 🤔
Great video! Exact! It’s interesting that you said the Mann filter with 153.5 particle count at the smallest particle range was “impressive”, where Amsoil had a count of 6.9 in the same range! Now THAT’S impressive. The Mann filter had over 20 times more particulate in the oil! With daily driver cars, the rpm is only above 3000 for a few seconds until it shifts and runs steady between 1200 and 1800 rpm, so the oil pump gpm I would guess would run around 4 to 6, way below the filter bypass valve setting.
Oh wow, this is the way to test things. No one can touch you, you are years ahead of every one else. You mentioned Project Farm in the video and even though his attempt is honest and with good intentions he does not have the level of "controlled testing" that you do. No body else does, just you. Period. Thank you so much.
Now, I'm hoping that you will also device a way to test oils (volatility, viscosity, lubricity, friction, cleaning power, etc.) and get results that can actually help in real life. Yes, I also watched Project Farm oil testing but those results (after a very careful analysis) were all over the place (since he was not using such mindful controlled testing as you do). His data is not too useful, except for getting TH-cam viewers count, unfortunately. Your videos are truly useful in a day to day scenario, in a real life scenario.
this is a certified hood classic
I've used Mobil 1 EP oil and filters for 20 years. My vehicles run like new. I'm a fanatic and this combo has worked for me! 2cars with 270k miles and pulling like new.
Funny thing, I just ordered 6 BOSS Filters to try.😮
Love the arms being taped down more and more as the video progresses
Haha, glad you enjoyed the comedy. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel.
You guys continue to out-do yourselves! Not only are your finding empirical vs. opinion, but you also do a fantastic job at explaining the information in simple terms. And the cumulative hand restriction was hilarious! 😆Keep up the great work!
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I was expecting to see AMS oil do better! Mann and Mobil 1 seemed to be great compromise options. And I still like K&N if you’ve ever held one the filter body construction feels extremely durable. I personally use the Tokyo Roki Oem filter on my Subaru STI and K&N on my Saab. Would like to see how WIX XP and Bosch premium do!
Thank you for watching, we tested the WIX XP on a previous video, make sure to go check it out. we will be testing the Bosch soon. Thank you again. Make sure to subscribe so you don't miss it.
I’ll go with Amsoil when I can. The dirt loading shouldn’t be an issue in an engine that is working and I want my filter… to filter.
I would be very interested in OEM branded oil filters. Like toyota/Lexus, GM, Ford, etc etc
OEM is just branded. Like Toyota oil, it’s literally just rebranded Mobil 1 and they charge a premium for it.
The restraints were a great idea. Kudos to whoever thought of it. You took a minor annoyance and changed it into a charming bit of humor.
Thank you for watching appreciate you taking the time to comment this.
Please keep the videos coming. Absolutely great job.
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If you’re not supposed to use the nut on the k&n, how are you supposed to torque it to spec?
Well, the Amsoil may have a slightly higher flow restriction (12 vs 9-11 psi, hardly a major delta), but that's the only filter that actually filtered out 21-38 micron particles, the other three didn't do jack squat in that range. There's obviously a strong correlation here, if you don't filter, your flow restriction will be spectacularly low (hello, Mobil1) 😀
You did it! the typical "O face to get views" thumbnail NEVER fails!!! 👏👏👏
Filtration is exactly why I use Amsoil over the others. The amount of time an engine spends with the bypass valve closed vs open is why filtration is my most important consideration. Great testing!
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+1 for amount of time the bypass valve is open (cold) vs. closed. To go along with that ... if the oil is that cold, then the engine components are also cold (i.e. greater clearances), until things warm up a bit. One can get hyperfocused on the cold psi stat, but if you think it through, it makes a very small portion of time in the life of the engine that it applies. Also, if you simply allow the engine to idle a bit at start up, it is under a low load during this warming period. If it is THAT COLD, then you need to adjust your oil's Winter Weight (W) ... rather than use a filter that lets more contaminant through. Good to see Amsoil in (my) TOP 5. But, for those who don't want that much filtration, it's good to know that there are a few options that are only a little bit behind the Amsoil.
@@kentsouthers6244 this is also why I use 0w-40 rather than 5w-30 in the winter. The 40 weight applies to the simple fact that I’ve got 245k on my engine and it loves to burn oil (it’s a Honda thing). It’s time for an overhaul for my engine.
@@kentsouthers6244 Exactly. My Subaru uses 0w-30 and my two other cars use 5w-30. Both flow fine when they are below freezing and the 0w flowed great when I did an oil change once when the temp was below 0F
It's all I use in my Shelby GT350 with their signature series 5w-50 oil
I would love to see oem filters or even supertech filters!
So is purolator boss the best overal oil filter on the market?
Thanks for taking viewer feedback to put Amsoil to the test. Fantastic data to allow different users to make more informed decisions.
With Amsoil having the highest advertised micron rating, it's not terribly surprising to see it with higher flow restriction, imo. Then seeing it actually do the advertised filtering job was also good to see their claims backed up by testing.
I currently run Amsoil filter on my 2015 Tacoma V6 and 2007 Accord I4. Seeing the flow restriction gave me some food for thought. Living in Auguata GA, I rarely see sub freezing temps. I think if i did live further North and regularly dealt with colder starts, I would be tempted to go with the Purolator boss. In fact, due to this series I'm considering switching regardless.
Filtering is meant to prevent wear but if the filter is so restricted that the engine is oil starved, then it probably makes sense to have slightly less than the best filtering level to get that better flow rate.
Great video.
puralator is probably better flowing....because it is still occasionally sometimes found with torn media.....which gives it the name Tearolator
@@LoveLikeaHurricane ROFL. I've never heard that before. That's funny. At least for the one used in this test, when cut open, it didn't appear to be torn. But that's good information to know. I'll need to dig into that.
@@benjaminguider1048 which would also explain why it had better capacity. Higher filtration should tend to do worst in capacity.
If memory serves the critical micron size is between 3-5 (depending on engine) the distance between piston ring and cylinder wall. Larger particulates remain suspended in the oil or are caught by the filter. Point is, only an additional and restricted flow "bypass filter" removes particulates down to 1 micron.
Interesting! Happy to finally see the K&N on the new tester, the K&N PS-2001 that I daily drive has a bypass design closer to the "Mann" filter's design, albeit it's unique but the entire body moves via a spring on the bottom rather then the traditional plastic thingy. I'm surprised more companies don't implement the design as a single metal spring seems to me to be a way cheaper solution then a plastic piece, another spring, and stamped sheet metal to hold everything in place.
K&N is one of the worsts on here. Glad to know. I will not be using K&N anymore.
@@elpcmaster Yeah I'm very disappointed with the design of the K&N on here, I'm probably gonna switch to Mobile1 next oil change after verifying that it's design is somewhat decent. I've noticed some serious variances based on part models, for instance my vehicle has a 2WD and 4WD oil filter, literally the same exact motor, but the 2WD filter is half the size.
Your first comment was praisingthe K&N @linuxguy1199
@@hammertime4257 Just because I praise some aspects of it doesn't mean I think it's the best there is. For my particular vehicle I prefer it as the design of the one on my vehicle is a lot different then the piece of crap shown in the video, as for why that is I have no idea.
Rewatching this and something occurred to me regarding the capacity test.
If I understand the testing methodology, you keep introducing particulates until you reach the stated pressure difference indicatimg the filter media is saturated indicating the volume of particulates captured.
This test would seemingly benefit a low micron filter though allowing for more of the particulates below the filtering media's threhold to remain in the oil while you must introduce enough of the test powder for there to be enough of the larger particles to saturate the filter media. The lower efficiency filter will not have actually captured all the introduced powder.
It would make sense to me that a more efficient filter will fill up sooner with this test with fewer grams introduced without indicating which filter has a larger capacity, as part of fhe filter capacity for a lower filtering efficiency filter will be still in the oil.
However, the test would still suggest which filters will become blocked sooner under real world conditions and therefore which maybe shouldn't be pushed to longer OCIs.
Best independent testing I've found.
Would you consider doing endurence testing. I know it would take some time but would be very useful to the consumer. While any given filter might score well initially, what about simulating a time/miles test. Things like cold starts, sustained hot oil temps, pressure surges, sucking air from low oil uncovering pick up tube. I've heard of and personally seen the results of a failed oil filter. Things like seal blowing out, filter element coming apart, bypass valve sticking open or closed.
My sone was driving a Ram 3500 diesel at a steady 70mph on the interstate with no load when the oil light flickered and the engine stopped. After a tow, the dealership determined that the filter media came apart blocking the inlet/outlet, stuck the bypass valve and blew out the gasket, then made a new gasket out of the loose filter media then ruptured the filter case and seized the engine.
Ram bought him a new short block and installed under warranty only because it was a Mopar filter installed by the dealership.
I’ve tried several different filters on the same 2008 truck over the years every 5000 kilometres. For the past 3 ish years I’ve stuck with Mobil 1 because my engine starts quietly during cold Canadian winters. My engine is less smooth and louder (only on start up) with all other filters when it’s cold out. I would compare the louder sound I had as being similar to what an engine sounds like on first start up after having the oil changed. I don’t get that with the Mobil 1 at all, so I feel comfortable using that filter.
Best oil filter testing on YT
Thanks for doing these videos. 1K miles on my orange can of death and the 96 Honda Civic EX has valve tick when started very cold. Purolator Boss already purchased and I'm glad I made the right decision.
Thank you for watching! Yeah , buying a good quality filter is cheap insurance!
Loved this video! Really appreciate the great work you do on them. This is truly best way to test and understand a filter’s total capability! Just cutting it open and making physical evaluation that many people do on TH-cam isn’t doing anyone any favors as to which is the best oil filter!! Great job !!!!!! Makes me confident in sticking with my Purolator Boss choice. I was thinking about switching to Amsoil filter but will now stay with Purolator as it is nearly as good with filter performance, better flow restrictions, and definitely more dirt/contaminant capacity!!
Damn right.
Would love to see some OEM filters included, like AC Delco and so forth, so we can see how they compare to aftermarket.
Would also be cool to also show the number results in the table, not just rankings.
Just came across your videos and love them!
Basically Endurance and Amsoil are the same filter and Boss averages out to be the best one overall. XP and K&N have been overhyped and were never good filters.
Awesome vid, when I was living in NASCAR country, this guy swore by Wix filters, but not the platinum but the version below it, I believe it cross referenced with the Napa Gold filters.
gold is the wix xp last I saw.
@@jsomething2I don’t think so because my car application is 57055 but the XP has the 57055XP part number.
Thanks for watching!
Napa GOLD is not Wix XP. GOLD is the standard WIX filter.
@@ronaldjurkovich4397 ahh you are right, I forgot the xp is their racing filter.
Another great vid!! How about testing the Motorcraft oil filter next? It also has a bypass at the base.
@heyboy33333, we are planning to test OEM filters in future videos. Thanks for watching and keep an eye for that notification.
I use Motorcraft OEM filters on both my Focus and Mustang.
@@derekgardin1512 I do the same in my Explorer
Thanks for including the Mobil 1 filter. I'm glad to see it's a good performer.
Thanks for watching!
Did you not see the results? One of the worst in filtration.
@@elpcmaster It came in 5th overall, I wouldn't call that one of the worst!
Mobil had 252.9 wear causing particles and Amsoil had 6.9! I wouldn’t want 246 more particles in my oil!
@@darrylsjodin7184 I believe those particles were smaller than 20 microns, I may be wrong.
Thank you guys for another awesome oil filter review 🤘🏻💪🏻👍😎🇺🇸 after watching fordbossme and your test results. The American made Purolator boss is going to be my main oil filter for the foreseeable future on ALL my vehicles!! Keep up the great work 🇺🇸👍😎🤘🏻💪🏻
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LOL...green bands = not talking with your hands
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Keep em coming!
I use WIX religiously on my vehicles...change the oil between 5000-7500 miles
Haha, thanks for watching!
10:09 what do these numbers mean?
The rank of each filter based on the category. A good example is the Purolator Boss, is ranking 3rd in Filtering, 4 in Hot Flow, 2 in cold flow and 1 in capacity. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
@@BrandRanks so lower is better
Correct
i would expect some of these results to altered rather radically when using a bigger filter size, say the old ph8A size of 5.1"... also, did this testing address the bypass pressure release rating differences, if any? the ph8A at 12psi, for instance.
Great video, I love these tests. As an Amsoil fan this was certainly interesting. You clearly demonstrated that the filter media and Amsoil is using seems to far ahead of everyone else tested. However the lack of capacity is concerning. Certainly driving home the point to never actually push these filters to their mileage limits. I do think that the Amsoil filter would great with Amsoil oil as that stuff somehow seems to flow better than almost any other I have seen as references by project farms videos and the fact that i myself have seen increased oil consumption or worse leaks from worn out engines when using amsoil vs other brands. While that sounds bad it really just points to amsoil being able to flow better and squeezing a larger amount of oil through very small imperfections or gaps. If you have a well maintained or new engine, this will result in less wear and better oil flow for bearings but in a worn out to very old engine it can simply make leaks worse or let more oil past piston rings and/or valve seals causing increased oil consumption.
Actually,Amsoil CLEANS deposits left by inferior oils. The esters in Amsoil rejuvenates most seals over time after having cleaned out sludge.
To me, Amsoil SS is not a dedicated performance oil but it's an excellent daily drive kind of oil. Nice cold flow for cold starting and good cleaning capabilities, especially higher TBN. The viscosity is not very high but it's good for gas mileage. The price is also not that expensive if u have a membership.
@@multiluxem2218 what do you mean the viscosity is not very high? If it's, lets say, a 5W30 oil it has to fall within the test parameters for 5W30 to be rated a 5W30 oil etc. etc. right?
@@multiluxem2218 AMSOIL Signature Series oils surely are high performance oils. Like Amsoil says they are not for everyone, but are for those that appreciate and or need exceptional lubricants. For instance their Signature Series 0W40 is rated for Dodges with the high output engines like the Challenger that call for 0W40. And the 5W50 is speced for the Mustang and other high output engine Ford models. Then there is the Z Rod high zinc formula oils for hot rods & classic cars with flat tappet camshafts. Otherwise the Dominator Racing oils excell for hard core racing purposes. YES I am an AMSOIL fanboy and have been for over thirty years. I am also a small dealer only because I am a mechanic by trade and a retired amateur racer and have proven AMSOIL's performance to myself many times over. Ok?
@@oneninerniner3427 Yes. But 5w30 is actually a range of viscosity (9.3 to 12.5 cSt @100C), not representing a single viscosity. Oil from different manufacturers can have slightly different viscosity despite having the same viscosity grade. The kinematic viscosity of some Amsoil SS is actually on the relatively thinner side within the viscosity range (such as 5w30), like many big brand oil. This is listed on their product spec document. Some other oil, like Redline, may have higher kinematic viscosity, despite they are both 5w30. It doesn't mean Amsoil SS doesn't provide good protection, as there are many other things can affect it, such as additive package, etc. But lower kinematic viscosity may help lower mpg and better cold start.
I would like you to test used filters. It is time-consuming to change filters on my vehicles. Years ago it was common to change filters every other oil change. Now recommendations are to change the filter every oil change. I am now changing the oil every 5K miles and changing the filter every other oil change. Testing used filters would indicate how often a filter needs to be changed. Your test rig is awesome.
I think you should run this test again with the AMSOIL filter and using the AMSOIL Signature Series Oil. Because if AMSOIL designed this filter specifically for their oil (which would make sense) I would find that a more exact example. Not saying it would for sure change anything but just curious how different these values would be in that case. I have a feeling a lot of companies game the system to do really well on these standard tests rather than in real world applications.
You have an excellent point here.
i ran my 2016 lexus nx200t 3 ys, 2 mos & 2 days, (during pandemic), going 23,671 miles... running AMSOIL SS 0w20, that i use & sell, had it tested, only gained a little viscosity... 😍
Mobil 1 filters are available at Walmart for reasonable prices. I' ve been usiing them for years on my Corvettes and pickup trucks. All the engines have never had any wear problems.
I just bought m1 204a filter for my jeep wj v8 for 5 dollars on Walmart. I bought 6 of them
What Filters are 1ST, 2ND and 3RD in that order of what to buy regardless of price?
Thank you
I presume the filter order in the chart in the overall rating.
Your table of data is confusing.
I feel like the weights need to be explored more how important is flow to an engine?
@@stormsilva2079yeah is a low number good or bad,
Would you be able to provide the filtering efficiency results below 21 microns?
I get my Amsoil filters for half the price you quoted... One of the cars i take care of used the exact filter you showed.
Another car i take care of uses Mann filters (no Amsoil option available)
So for between $10 and $14 I'll stick with the Amsoil ones and will gladly recommend the Mobil 1 to others that prefer something bought in a local store.
Friends don't let friends pay full retail for Amsoil filters or oil. That particle test result was surprising... Surprising at how awful all the other filters were.
Yes!!! The hand movement in this video is much improved! Now, do something about that bobbing head and you’ll be nearly perfect!
Haha! I'll restraint it next time.
Algorithm, bless this channel. In the name of former CEO Wojcicki, Amen.
Haha! Thank you so much! We hope it does! A lot of fun making these videos but a lot of work and money so hopefully one day. Thank you for your support!
I know you did the WIX XP but what about just the regular WIX?
Also Baldwin filters.
Yes, planning on it! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel.
Why were your hands tied together?😮
Its a youtube kink.
Issues, when did the bypass open rendering the filter useless? Micron rating, ie how well is it cleaning the oil? How much media is in each filter, ie how long will it really last. For me the interval will always be 5k for full synthetic in passenger style gas vehicle, 3k for diesel or hard working gas (trailering ect.). So the time at which it claims it will last is meaningless to me, but would be interested in contaminates filtered vs flow. If it flows well but filters less or not at all, or does it flow a little less oil but comes out pristine? Then at what gpm loss does a motor suffer or lose lubrication? This would determine the "best" filter.
You should throw the OG oil filter creator in Purolator Boss. I also prefer Wix XP when i can't find a Purolator Bossin stock. The Purolator is also the only one on the market that i could find that meets and excess Subarus specs for turbo cars.
I always used K&N HP-1008 on my 350z but now seeing it didn’t do that well I’m going to try the purolator boss this week. And it’s 3 bucks cheaper on Amazon vs the K&N
It would be interesting to see if there’s a difference between the AMSOIL EA15K which is in this video and the EAO filters which are supposedly meant for 25k miles …I recall learning somewhere that Wix manufacturers AMSOIL filters
How things have changed. Years ago, FRAM fell from grace and became the biggest piece of crap ever made, they used carbon steel staples and GLOBS of glue to secure the pleated paper, the elements were breaking apart and collapsing, blocking the flow in the filters! I NEVER used Fram on my 69' Charger and Barracuda with a Hemi and 383, and neither did any of my dozens of friends who had high performance engines. Wix, Purolator and GM were very good back in the 60's-80's, Happy to learn that Fram got their act together once again and straightened out their mess. Great VIDEO !
As the Purolator has done so well, why not test the lower version of it?
Would love to see you do one with Amaoil, Wix and any other winners you've had. If you actually take oil questions I have one for you that no one has seemed to be able to answer yet. Fantastic video guys thank you.
My engine has a VTC issue, which rears it head on super cold days. I suspect when it takes longer for oil to reach the top end. I have been using the Mobil 1 filter for its supposedly good flow. I see there are some other filters that might be as good or better for my needs. Thank you much for doing this testing.
Thank you so much for watching. Yeah the Mobil one has great flow, but some have even better during cold temperatures. Glad you enjoyed!
I am happy. Great job not flailing about *and* adding entertainment value!!
Everyone forgets about the oil filter when thinking about oil changes. Very happy you did this video
Thanks for watching!
Just you man,
Any future videos testing the MicroGard Select oil filter that O'Reilly auto parts sales?
Yes, I would like to know more about the microgard select also!
The OEM filter that Volkswagen often sells is Mann. It can be Hengst or other brands but they are sourced in or near Germany. It would only make sense that they stay fairly local. That may be so that the parts don't cost a fortune in shipping. Also I tend to like German quality parts like their air and oil filters. Ever used Liqui Moly (Lubro Moly in Germany)? I have tried their oil and found myself using it again and again. It is about as expensive as Mobil 1 maybe a little bit more.
Thanks for this video, I just wish you had used the Amsoil EaO instead of the 15K. As its name implies, it is rated for 15K miles, that may have affected the holding capacity. I appreciate your commitment to keeping all conditions constant across your testing. One thing about efficiency, it has been noted that as the differential pressure (delta P) increases, some of the already captured particles are released affecting efficiency ratings. In your testing, you can't isolate that, but if you could stop the test when the delta P gets to 4psi, to compare to the particle count at 8psi (I think you stopped the test at 8) to get the efficiency at a lower delta P that might be helpful. An air filter will get more efficient as it loads up, but an oil filter will not. Keep up the good work!
Bob, thank you so much for all the info! We really wanted to do the EaO but unfortunately there was no cross reference to the filters we were using amsoil only offered a 15k oil filter. You have a good point on the efficiency, we went with the 8psi as it was the industry standard, but. Slower delta P could be very interesting to test.