Guy in my local shop showed me this on a sig 2022 I think. When my initial score turned out 98 he couldn't believe a 25 year old kid did better then him. It turned into a friendly competition and he lost 3 times. He asked me how I was as good as I was compared to his 78-82 and laughed and told him I dry fire practice with double action revolvers and double action only on my berreta 92. He busted out a 92 and my scores dropped to around 85 to 92 and a lot slower, he tried it and he dropped to 62-84. Needless to say I bought the mantis and a sig 2022 after our contest. Made him a little more happy since I just spent close to a grand in his shop.
I got the x3 , I trained with it for a few weeks in between idpa matches, my average total points down for matches was 30-40, the match after training was only 6 points down The guided courses in the app are fun and they keep adding more
I’ve had my X10 for about 3 weeks. I’m still learning how to fully use it. I will say that to get the full benefit from this device, you have to treat this training as if you are at the range with a very astute instructor. I get physically tired after about 100-200 “ rounds “ in a session. Dry fire scores have grown into low 90s but my live fire is still in the mid 70s. I’ve got work to do. Overall I’m very pleased with Mantis. I’ve ordered the Laser Academy and will pair the X10 and the Laser Academy to see how they work together.
I want to hear your results when you do - Right now, I'm under the impression that it's going to be a choice between "Am I gonna be using the laser academy, or the X10 this session?", but I have nothing but guesswork and knowledge of how iPhone apps work to base that idea on. (From a programmer's perspective, it ain't easy to have two separate apps actively doing their thing at the same time on an iPhone/iPad, but it's not impossible - just difficult, to put it mildly)
I used the mag rail attachment for my 43X and it works great! They also sell "blanks" that go in your magazine to keep the mag from locking open every time you cycle the weapon. They really have though of everything. I would highly recommend getting a flashlight holster if you plan on using it in a rail mount configuration.
Thanks for the review it was very helpful. I had heard about the mantis x on the radio but wasn't really sure how it worked. I think I'm going to get one. I think my wife will Iike it too. I like your videos and your tag line.
To really test one's skill, just standing there and dry fire to a static target under controlled circumstances just isn't realistic for what this is really best for after one learns the fundamentals ==> Unless one wants to just feel good about getting "above 90%" to make themselves feel good about how they good they are standing still, target stationery, make 100% you're aiming at the 0.025mm spot you're intending to hit, breathe out and then pull the trigger on a controlled exhale...That's how most of us train in the restrictive indoor ranges. I know I did. ===> And I "thought" I was a pretty accurate shooter. Well, the Mantis X10 Elite proved how amazingly pathetic I was in a "stress drill!" It's really a game-changer, especially holster-dry-firing-reholster. Highly recommend! Great vid!
I have an older Mantis system but never used it too much. But I found out they have a trade-in program where you send in your older model and get a reduced price on an upgrade. Now that I finally found a new job, I plan to do that and get the X10. I think the X10 is actually a tiny bit smaller than the older model I have, because the rail on my Walther PPS is total garbage and the older Mantis doesn't fit very well on it and I really have to jam it on there. Ultimately, the Mantis system is really impressive and has a ton of features. It might look complicated but it's not hard to get started. Just take your time with it and there's help available to explain the things that you might not understand.
The gen 2 Mantis units (X2, X3, X7, X8, and X10) are about half the size and weight of the original and have much better data rates and battery life. They also have a quick attach system designed to mount to your standard Picatinny or Weaver-style rails. Our trade-in program is available here: mantisx.com/pages/trade-in-program Our MagRail adapter for the PPS M2 is available here: mantisx.com/products/magrail-walther-pps-m2-9mm-magazine-floor-plate-rail-adapter
Awesome video. Great detail about this product. The only thing that I would like to be added is how you read the diagram. I am not that knowledgeable about guns or computer savvy. I am a fairly old guy that decided to get a gun now that times are getting worse in the country. I do have some basic training with my gun. I am just looking at something that may cost me a little less to improve accuracy. Overall I love the video great job.
There is a magazine mount for this...mounts to the base of your magazine...works well for an EDC or other pistol that you don't want to reconfigure. Great system...saved lotssss of time teaching basics before my wife fired her first round...raises and establishes confidence big time.
I wonder how this would work pairing it with one of those laser systems like laser hit. I still want to see where I'm "hitting" on a target during dry fire.
Is dry firing safe for the firing pin on the Glock 19? I would love to get this but don’t want to damage my firearm. Will this damage from excessive dry firing?
One, in my mind, the only solution will be more US Based Ammo manufacturers to meet this alarming New Trend (what ever the cause) to meet this new demand, remembering the already military needs. Seen too much Russian and other foreign manufactured being made available. Live round training along with this is or would be great, but live round firing is a MUST!
It's too bad the gun manufacturers don't get on the ball is start producing or having someone else produce to their specs the airsoft that is exactly identical 2 weight trigger pull everything to their firearms
First thing is you might want to get your facts right, not criticizing just want to mention the Mantis x 10 (latest model), comes with a adapter for the bottom of your magazine. The Mantis X10 will perform holster draw analysis along with all the other mantis training AIDS.
And what is the cost of this system? All purchases must be budgeted. Thank you for sharing and be safe. Do I need a special dry fire mag or can my regular magazine with snap caps work especially for my M&ps?
mixed feelings.. 25+ years ago I wouldn't play first person shooting games online, why would I want to show off how good I can shoot, fly, etc? data collection is a big business for decades now.
Our situation since last year 2020 has changed from personal self-defense against crime related individual threats to having defend against armed hostile mobs driven by outside interests. We face what is termed militarily intermediate force opposition. So our mindset needs to change. My suggestion is use of a 22 LR (if you can get).... why is practically in a city or your house the likelihood of over penetration is reduced. Yet the effectivity is not really effected, 40 ft/lbs of energy is adequate in military terms to kill or stop aggressive action with penetrating projectiles... this goes up somewhat with advanced intermediate force weapons which do not penetrate the body. Civilians in America struggle with modern legal system when confronted by a self defense event, normally. The current situation is not as it as been before. Currently, we must plan for rioters throwing fire bombs or rocks or beating with clubs etc. all are deadly weapons or extremely injurious... with occasional lethally armed threats, but public thinks these are superficial threats... they are not. Some intermediate solution needs to be available. From a traditional legal analysis lethal force defense is justified, but juries are people who make decisions from their own experience in life. And, we are not facing individual crime tactical defenses, here. The experience of our civilization is the American legal system does not function to find the truth, it is based on balance of the facts and applicable law, and the issuance of its judgements is in finality, without recourse. Riotous mobs are in our law are not homogeneous and equally responsible, they are legally judged from the stand point of each individual's action and intent. But now is no longer the fear of a single individual as in a a criminal or occasional mass shooter... you have to plan defense around a more likely scenario of a hostile mob, which is acting with coordinated command and control. However, any defensive action take will be adjudicated from the basis of uncoordinated individual assault, so you would have to justify your actions in court as to each individual, without the defense of it being a hostile mob acting in united intent mentality, or that such was directed with unitary purpose. Defending your house and family inside against such hostile mob, does have a reasonable option open, that is legally feasible in our society and the legal situation as it exists in America. The Swiss situation has some similarity during WW2 where the NAZIs wanted to invade, but could not as it was militarily not feasible; as the Swiss could muster around 15 -16 armed trained men per square Kilometer and the Germans 2.3 . Though the Swiss had much fewer people, they had well stocked defensive positions throughout the country and 5 years provisions for the entire population. We do not have that or the coordination. You face a dangerous, well funded and planned insurgency, more like Israel. This lady will explain what is Agenda 2030 is.... the video is from about an interview at the Alsberg Conference 6-7 years ago... in Denmark where she was speaking, th-cam.com/video/rqMe1DH3qrU/w-d-xo.html Continued in Reply
Israel has 60 years of experience with our current situation in America. Dealing with hostile insurgencies driven by foreign interests, using domestic factions in the Palestinians. These riots and civil unrest are everyday things in the territories by domestic terrorists. We now face this too They have found intermediate force weapons are ideal for living with it. Using full military force is not feasible due to outside such as UN interests interference and support of the using 22 LR Ruger 10/22 with scopes to dissuade these types by shooting less-lethally in the foot or leg.... then when needed shooting for the head or chest... or shooting the numerous pitbulls dogs the hostile Palestinians use to harass defense operation. There is video of that around, I will not post links here as this forum might take them down... Second with the ammo shortage and with ability to simply get on a plane and go else where leaving it all behind not commonly open one is faced with the situation as to Stalingrad and the holdout German forces... where depletion of your ammo and limits of hiding places, will lead to defeat and probable death. No one should be wasting ammo. Ammo cost is irrelevant in either a market where it is not available or production cannot keep up with demand... you will pay up... or run out and losses ability to defend yourself. I will relate though what you might face. I think probably you would simply stay in the home if you could, we could not... my opinion is you would face similar.
I've had this for 2 years and it's the absolute best training device I've ever used.
This is what we love to hear from our customers!
Looks like a great product especially in these troubling times.
Guy in my local shop showed me this on a sig 2022 I think. When my initial score turned out 98 he couldn't believe a 25 year old kid did better then him. It turned into a friendly competition and he lost 3 times. He asked me how I was as good as I was compared to his 78-82 and laughed and told him I dry fire practice with double action revolvers and double action only on my berreta 92. He busted out a 92 and my scores dropped to around 85 to 92 and a lot slower, he tried it and he dropped to 62-84. Needless to say I bought the mantis and a sig 2022 after our contest. Made him a little more happy since I just spent close to a grand in his shop.
I got the x3 , I trained with it for a few weeks in between idpa matches, my average total points down for matches was 30-40, the match after training was only 6 points down
The guided courses in the app are fun and they keep adding more
I like that it coaches you to correction.
I’ve had my X10 for about 3 weeks. I’m still learning how to fully use it.
I will say that to get the full benefit from this device, you have to treat this training as if you are at the range with a very astute instructor. I get physically tired after about 100-200 “ rounds “ in a session.
Dry fire scores have grown into low 90s but my live fire is still in the mid 70s. I’ve got work to do.
Overall I’m very pleased with Mantis. I’ve ordered the Laser Academy and will pair the X10 and the Laser Academy to see how they work together.
I want to hear your results when you do - Right now, I'm under the impression that it's going to be a choice between "Am I gonna be using the laser academy, or the X10 this session?", but I have nothing but guesswork and knowledge of how iPhone apps work to base that idea on. (From a programmer's perspective, it ain't easy to have two separate apps actively doing their thing at the same time on an iPhone/iPad, but it's not impossible - just difficult, to put it mildly)
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I’ll use my phone for the laser and my iPad for the X10.
@@25N77 Yes, but you would do it only for dry fire. One question: that little picatinny rail in the package is in fact the mag base mount?
The thumbnail for this video is great, its opening a box, inside a box, inside a box, inside a box....forever!
I have been going to the range like 2 times a week and 9mm 115 or 124 grain are 16 dollars box of 50.
BTW, I live in Puerto Rico 🇵🇷👍
I used the mag rail attachment for my 43X and it works great! They also sell "blanks" that go in your magazine to keep the mag from locking open every time you cycle the weapon. They really have though of everything. I would highly recommend getting a flashlight holster if you plan on using it in a rail mount configuration.
Thanks for the review it was very helpful. I had heard about the mantis x on the radio but wasn't really sure how it worked. I think I'm going to get one. I think my wife will Iike it too. I like your videos and your tag line.
I haven't been shooting in well over a year since this ammo cost an arm and leg. Good thing it's fishing and motorcycle riding time!
Sadly Biden drove the gas price high then it were
@@SlavicCinnamonRollie556 Yes, knew that was coming but it's still much cheaper then Ammo
I was just looking at various dry firing systems this morning, nice timing with this video 👍
You managed to find the best one on the market!
Realistic pellet guns BB guns and airsoft guns you can still get practice and draws in for cheap!
Great video. I just my Mantis x10 elite, this gave me the info I was looking for to get started. Thank you so much.
thank you for the video sootchoo!!!!! keep up the great work!!! don't stop what you are doing!!
To really test one's skill, just standing there and dry fire to a static target under controlled circumstances just isn't realistic for what this is really best for after one learns the fundamentals ==> Unless one wants to just feel good about getting "above 90%" to make themselves feel good about how they good they are standing still, target stationery, make 100% you're aiming at the 0.025mm spot you're intending to hit, breathe out and then pull the trigger on a controlled exhale...That's how most of us train in the restrictive indoor ranges. I know I did. ===> And I "thought" I was a pretty accurate shooter. Well, the Mantis X10 Elite proved how amazingly pathetic I was in a "stress drill!" It's really a game-changer, especially holster-dry-firing-reholster. Highly recommend! Great vid!
I have an older Mantis system but never used it too much. But I found out they have a trade-in program where you send in your older model and get a reduced price on an upgrade. Now that I finally found a new job, I plan to do that and get the X10.
I think the X10 is actually a tiny bit smaller than the older model I have, because the rail on my Walther PPS is total garbage and the older Mantis doesn't fit very well on it and I really have to jam it on there.
Ultimately, the Mantis system is really impressive and has a ton of features. It might look complicated but it's not hard to get started. Just take your time with it and there's help available to explain the things that you might not understand.
The gen 2 Mantis units (X2, X3, X7, X8, and X10) are about half the size and weight of the original and have much better data rates and battery life. They also have a quick attach system designed to mount to your standard Picatinny or Weaver-style rails.
Our trade-in program is available here: mantisx.com/pages/trade-in-program
Our MagRail adapter for the PPS M2 is available here: mantisx.com/products/magrail-walther-pps-m2-9mm-magazine-floor-plate-rail-adapter
Saved us lots of time and ammo teaching our family the basics before first round downrange...plus keeps seasoned shooters honest..lol
I need to get me one!
I received mine today and let me say it is awesome! I agree with your review of the Mantis X10.👍👍
Got a fishing license, taking up fishing 🎣 again still enjoy the out doors , done ✅ playing the ammo game🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Outstanding tool sootch keep rockin brother...
That's really neat, definitely worth looking into. Thanks Sootch!
Thanks Nicholas, It's so easy to use and I've been dryfire training all morning.
Thanks just what I've been looking for.
Thanks for the detailed view of the app.
I didn’t know it was rifle friendly too!
The X10 works on pistols and rifles, as well as shotguns and bows!
Awesome video. Great detail about this product. The only thing that I would like to be added is how you read the diagram. I am not that knowledgeable about guns or computer savvy. I am a fairly old guy that decided to get a gun now that times are getting worse in the country. I do have some basic training with my gun. I am just looking at something that may cost me a little less to improve accuracy. Overall I love the video great job.
Great video...is there something you can use so that you can practice the follow through? Without reracking the slide
Now I suppose the Mantis X10 will become scarce and expensive. hahahaha
What are the rubber rectangles wrapped in the blue rubber band for??? Nobody ever says
Scotch, combine this with the DryFireMag and it's really good!
Haven't heard of that. What does it add, functionality-wise, to the Mantis system?
@@clamum When using the Mantis X10 sensor with DryFire Mag, you will not have to rack the slide after each shot.
Thanks, Sootch
The only thing I don’t get is how does the device register that you pulled the trigger?
Time to dive into mine!! I HATE dryfire!!
Even with this tool, you still need to rack the slide after every shot? Defeats the purpose of serious training.
another great video
Which is the vehicle behind you sir??❤️❤️
snap caps should come with the kit
I saw on the news where Winchester and Browning is raising the prices on their ammo and it's no wonder damand so high they can make money
Mine is on the way! Should be here next week! Did you try the draw analysis or mag mount?
How often do you use this system these days?
.37c/round, mag butt attachment. Interested in getting one!
You need the dry fire mag
The car speaks volumes.
What target or distance for dry ? Any distance?
My EDC has a cmr204 light on the front so would be no room to put this unless I dinked around with my weapon's configuration.
Nice analytics, though.
There is a magazine mount for this...mounts to the base of your magazine...works well for an EDC or other pistol that you don't want to reconfigure. Great system...saved lotssss of time teaching basics before my wife fired her first round...raises and establishes confidence big time.
Great video. What kinda truck do you have there big timer?
What if u don’t have a rail on your pistol
I wonder how this would work pairing it with one of those laser systems like laser hit. I still want to see where I'm "hitting" on a target during dry fire.
Check out the new Mantis Laser Academy app for the point of impact data you're looking for
@@MantisX And both apps can run on the same device in the same time?
Is dry firing safe for the firing pin on the Glock 19? I would love to get this but don’t want to damage my firearm. Will this damage from excessive dry firing?
No you will not damage the firing pin but you could use snap caps if you wanted to.
Is this the only training system for handguns or rifles ???
I have an STI 2011 Eagle - do they have an adapter for it?
As of today 1k rnds is $500-600 not factoring in shipping.
I’ve wanted one for years, my birthdays coming up.
Where?
@@alanbailey1696 there’s this thing called the internet, your actually on it right now. Use the google machine to overpay for ammo!
One, in my mind, the only solution will be more US Based Ammo manufacturers to meet this alarming New Trend (what ever the cause) to meet this new demand, remembering the already military needs. Seen too much Russian and other foreign manufactured being made available. Live round training along with this is or would be great, but live round firing is a MUST!
Can you do a double or triple tap and will it register them?
Thank you
Will
The minimum split times for the Mantis X sensors is currently 0.2 seconds
Is it working for the live fire during ISPC?
It's too bad the gun manufacturers don't get on the ball is start producing or having someone else produce to their specs the airsoft that is exactly identical 2 weight trigger pull everything to their firearms
I NEED ONE...seems to be a great product. $249. Seems like alot.being on disability s.s. would be hard..
We have a $99 version called the Mantis X2 for dry-fire practice only!
Racking the slide every time to take a dry fire shot is bad training. Get a training dry fire mag that prevents this.
I always worry dry fire will ruin my guns
On striker fire it's fine, if anything it will lighten and improve the trigger. I've always heard stay away from dry firing hammer and rim fire.
First thing is you might want to get your facts right, not criticizing just want to mention the Mantis x 10 (latest model), comes with a adapter for the bottom of your magazine. The Mantis X10 will perform holster draw analysis along with all the other mantis training AIDS.
On Amazon?
The mantis x7 is but not this one I've checked
You verified that the gun was unloaded but you didn’t stick the magazine back in it why not you do that on everyone of your other videos
And what is the cost of this system? All purchases must be budgeted. Thank you for sharing and be safe. Do I need a special dry fire mag or can my regular magazine with snap caps work especially for my M&ps?
The Mantis X10 is available for $249.99. You can use the system with regular snap caps, no problem!
Got my first pistol bought this for it safety course some range time and MantisX will help I think
🔥👌💯💪
Hopefully, Joe, Nancy and Chuck are not watching this video! 😀
Dry fire practice is great. But have you ever tried dry fire practice... ON WEED?
Ah man, that made me Lol!
Pozdrawiam w sobota
Or you can play Duck Hunt.
Does like everyone have bones? and if they do why is all the se skeletons evil cause I'm good if I got em
👍😎🍺🍩🔧
You have to be a rocket scientist just to operate that thing
I keep hearing Mantis Sex
This ammo shortage is aids
Unless you can work on a computer without having to read a manual it is not easy for everyone
mixed feelings.. 25+ years ago I wouldn't play first person shooting games online,
why would I want to show off how good I can shoot, fly, etc?
data collection is a big business for decades now.
1st
Our situation since last year 2020 has changed from personal self-defense against crime related individual threats to having defend against armed hostile mobs driven by outside interests. We face what is termed militarily intermediate force opposition. So our mindset needs to change. My suggestion is use of a 22 LR (if you can get).... why is practically in a city or your house the likelihood of over penetration is reduced. Yet the effectivity is not really effected, 40 ft/lbs of energy is adequate in military terms to kill or stop aggressive action with penetrating projectiles... this goes up somewhat with advanced intermediate force weapons which do not penetrate the body. Civilians in America struggle with modern legal system when confronted by a self defense event, normally. The current situation is not as it as been before.
Currently, we must plan for rioters throwing fire bombs or rocks or beating with clubs etc. all are deadly weapons or extremely injurious... with occasional lethally armed threats, but public thinks these are superficial threats... they are not. Some intermediate solution needs to be available. From a traditional legal analysis lethal force defense is justified, but juries are people who make decisions from their own experience in life. And, we are not facing individual crime tactical defenses, here. The experience of our civilization is the American legal system does not function to find the truth, it is based on balance of the facts and applicable law, and the issuance of its judgements is in finality, without recourse. Riotous mobs are in our law are not homogeneous and equally responsible, they are legally judged from the stand point of each individual's action and intent. But now is no longer the fear of a single individual as in a a criminal or occasional mass shooter... you have to plan defense around a more likely scenario of a hostile mob, which is acting with coordinated command and control. However, any defensive action take will be adjudicated from the basis of uncoordinated individual assault, so you would have to justify your actions in court as to each individual, without the defense of it being a hostile mob acting in united intent mentality, or that such was directed with unitary purpose. Defending your house and family inside against such hostile mob, does have a reasonable option open, that is legally feasible in our society and the legal situation as it exists in America.
The Swiss situation has some similarity during WW2 where the NAZIs wanted to invade, but could not as it was militarily not feasible; as the Swiss could muster around 15 -16 armed trained men per square Kilometer and the Germans 2.3 . Though the Swiss had much fewer people, they had well stocked defensive positions throughout the country and 5 years provisions for the entire population. We do not have that or the coordination. You face a dangerous, well funded and planned insurgency, more like Israel. This lady will explain what is Agenda 2030 is.... the video is from about an interview at the Alsberg Conference 6-7 years ago... in Denmark where she was speaking, th-cam.com/video/rqMe1DH3qrU/w-d-xo.html
Continued in Reply
Israel has 60 years of experience with our current situation in America. Dealing with hostile insurgencies driven by foreign interests, using domestic factions in the Palestinians. These riots and civil unrest are everyday things in the territories by domestic terrorists. We now face this too They have found intermediate force weapons are ideal for living with it. Using full military force is not feasible due to outside such as UN interests interference and support of the using 22 LR Ruger 10/22 with scopes to dissuade these types by shooting less-lethally in the foot or leg.... then when needed shooting for the head or chest... or shooting the numerous pitbulls dogs the hostile Palestinians use to harass defense operation. There is video of that around, I will not post links here as this forum might take them down...
Second with the ammo shortage and with ability to simply get on a plane and go else where leaving it all behind not commonly open one is faced with the situation as to Stalingrad and the holdout German forces... where depletion of your ammo and limits of hiding places, will lead to defeat and probable death. No one should be wasting ammo. Ammo cost is irrelevant in either a market where it is not available or production cannot keep up with demand... you will pay up... or run out and losses ability to defend yourself. I will relate though what you might face. I think probably you would simply stay in the home if you could, we could not... my opinion is you would face similar.
Stailingrad... holding out practice