BMW E30/E36/E34 RacingDiffs LSD conversion set | 188mm differential (medium case)
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- How to properly install LSD conversion set into BMW differential type 188mm (medium case). That includes following models: E28, E30, E32, E34, E36, E38, Z3.
Important Note:
Please make sure to lubricate all parts during assembly. Use oil for Limited slip differentials only!
Otherwise premature wear of components may occur.
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I have this kit in my turbo e30 thats running 350rwhp on 235 advans. The car drives normal, no clunking or chirping on corners. Ive given it the absolute berries and it hooks up really well. Very predictable. I wouldnt bother spending big on an lsd unless you plan on doing lots of skids or drifting. If its a street car and you need traction this kit is perfect. Highly recommended bang for buck.
Thank you! Much appreciated! ❤
@@RacingDiffs how many pounds are the spring pressures? I want to up the spring rate to experiment with it. I is great bang for the buck and street use, but since I have it I want to do some experimentation.
4 springs create an overall force of 2500 kg when compressed to the operating position.
Are you still using it? How reliable is it in a long term use?
I pulled it out after 250k km to showcase how it looked.
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GREAT TASTE IN MUSIC!!! I LOVE IT!
Thank you🙂
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Great video ! Thank you! I've just installed mine. I'm excited to test it. Thank you !
Pleasure!
did u have to shorten the flanges or did they fit fine without doing it
@@MouhammadAlMahdi Yes, you have to do it
@@pierreheck5637 how did you short the flanges. I dont have this machine, like in the video.
You can do it with a hand grinder if you have a steady hand 👍🏻
Very good!!!
On the video the smaller one just slipped in. There is no slipping one of the rods in for mine. I don't know why I have the side holders that hold the springs in completely off so it should be as spreaded as possible allowing at least a little bit it just won't go in The middle of the LSD and yes I did oil the parts and everything so I'm very confused
Where are the bolts which hold the axel stumps in place?
Do you build something like this for W202 Mercedes C230K?
Okay differential ring gear bolts all off and got the LSD inside the pumpkin. Now I'm trying to figure out how to get the middle rod through. I'm using the smallest one and it just won't go through. It's like it's too big. Is there any mistake you could think of that I did cuz I'm following the video the whole way
What is the seal OEM number?
Going to start tearing apart the car tomorrow before I get too far in what oil should I grab from the auto parts store I think you mentioned something about it needed to be different in lower text on the video because of the LSD
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Thanks again ☺️😎
Hey i bought the 168mm conversion kit for my e36 but im not sure what kind of machine that is to shorten the flanges
Lade machine
👏👍
will there be coming a video for the 168 diff e36? I would LOVE that!
Coming soon! Please subscribe to our channel.
I have put their conversion kit in my E30 168mm diff, you can find the video on my channel
Hi
Interested in this kit.
Can you please give more details about how it performs?
Comparet with an LSD .
What are thr PROs and CONs ?.
Thanks.
Hi, you have all that info on this link.
www.racingdiffs.com/collections/lsd-conversion-sets
if i take the diff apart like that, there is no need to adjust anything new in the diff? this version looks different than that from your page, machining flanges still needed?
That's right. Just put side shims as they were, and you don't have to adjust backlash. We have improoved version now, but cutting of flanges is still required. If you don't have access to lathe, you can do it with hand grinder too.
wil it be the same procudure for the 168 e36 diff?
Even more simple. 👍🏻
I ordered two 188mm kits, but unfortunately I think I got the wrong kits delivered. I definitely have an e36 with a 188mm differential, but none of the kits would fit into the differential. The kit I got is too big to fit between the spider gears. Besides it looks different to the kit shown in the video. What should I do now?
Please write an email to office@racingdiffs.com
I have an e34. I need an lsd. This open diff was not meant to go on such a classic bimmer
We have the same kit for E34, if you are interested?
Hi, thanks for the video. For your new kit we dont have need the machinisme for remove 4 mm ? Is directly mountable ?
That's right 👍🏻
@@RacingDiffswhat if i did remove the 4mm?
Nothing, all works just fine.
Hi racing diff,
So I used my VIN and search the BMW actalogue and found that I have a Type 188K Diff installed on my BMW 330i E46 Sedan Europe M54, July 2000. Proceduce shown on this video, is thesame procedure I will have to follow if doing the conversion or is the spec different for diff Racing Diff kits.? Thanks for your reply in advance
Hello,
The procedure is very similar. But we do have a video for 188k model.
th-cam.com/video/bLESfhaCROE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EN2JueY3P7gKmlFn
Does it fit the 540i E34? i’ve been hearing things from Mechanics around me that it could be an issue to instal an LSD on my 540i
That is 210mm diff type, we have model available in stock. No issues whatsoever. Check link below
racingdiffs.com/collections/lsd-conversion-sets/products/bmw-e46-e90-e92-e39-e60-lsd-conversion-set
Do u need to cut the axle flange down on a 98 323is??
Yes you do. But you can do it easily using hand grinder👍🏻
I'm so baffled how yours just slid straight in like butter and mine is just like it's not meant to be but it looks like it should work but you hammer it and it's like nope not going to happen. You can hammer as much as you want but it's just not going to happen. Sorry about being mad earlier but I watch the video. It works out for you and then I go to do it myself and it doesn't work for me when I'm following the steps perfectly😢
Hello, how much would it cost, if you install it on my e36 325i?
Send us email and we can discuss about it. Generally we don't do installation, but we can recomend services near you which can do the job properly.
Damn, was thinking to get this for a track car, but seeing the comments, it's not that suitable for it as it's not built to be durable on track?
For serious track usage, we have other solutions. It all depends on the budget. Drop email to office@racingdiffs.com for advice.
Is it possible to clutchkick it everyday on dry streets? Or shut I be gentle?
Why not😀
Do I have to shorten the flunges? (BMW 135i E82)
Yes. But if you don't have access to a lathe machine, you can do it with a hand grinder.
Do you also offer the same kit with 40% of locking? Searching for that
If you want 40% lock, you will need whole carrier unit. We have it available for 650€ + shipping.
I'm trying to purchase progressive LSD conversion for my E36 328is five speed manual it has the 293 open differential I just don't know what millimeter to pick and I don't want to get it wrong
You need 188mm LSD conversion kit for sure.
Thank you very much 👍
Pleasure to be of help.
why shorting them 4mm ? have i to ddo that is that a must ??
You need to make clearance for the plates. This is the crucial thing, and it can't be shipped. But it is quite easy.
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how much is the blocking percentage of this kit? and for an intensive use of drifting how long can it last before it breaks?
It is 20-25% lock, but it is designed for daily usage, not heavy duty drifting.
Ford Sierra LSD conversion Video plz
Will do soon👍🏻
How do these hold up to aggressive use (racing/drift). I notice a lot less surface area compared to the clutch pack style. Could I expect similar performance and life span compared to oem style?
It is not for competition use. Street use only👍🏻
@@RacingDiffs describe street use?
@@colemabro driving the car on streets🙂
@@RacingDiffs is it okay to use by ‘daily drift’ ?
It is designed for daily usage.
Bonjour est il obligatoire d’usine les tête de cardans fe 4mn?
Yes, it is necessary to make the set work properly. If you don't have access to a machine shop, then you can simply cut them with a hand grinder 👍🏻
Hi. I saw an older video from racingdiff installation and it needed modification from diff wheels on an lathe. Do you develop new kits? I have a 323ti (so e30 diff in 188 size), is the kit plug'n'play without any other modification that reduce flanges??
Exactly. This new Easy mount kits doesn't require modification of spider gears. Only shortening of flanges. And installation is the same as differentials are the same type.👍🏼
On the 4 mm shortening, is it absolutely positively necessary? And if so, I only have a belt sander and an angle grinder will those suffice?
My progressive LSD arrived in the mail but the deliverers decided not to deliver it so we had to go to the building and get it ourselves and in the process figured out our trunk was broken so I had to drive all the way home with me in the back holding the trunk down 🤣
You will have one more thing to remember the LSD installation of the hand tool is perfectly fine🙂
I got a new TH-cam account so this is my new account and I did. Ended up purchasing it and there's a metal ring in there that I'm not sure what the heck it's for and the video doesn't show the ring in it as far as I know
This is a spare snap ring for the central pin, in case you break yours during installation.👍🏻
Do you have to shorten the flanges? Are there more tourque specs given?
You need to shorten flanges for ceratin (not all) BMW models. Which torque spec do you need?
@@RacingDiffswould the flanges need to be shortened for a 1995 325i with a 3.15 ratio
@rafaelgutierrez5167 yes. We are preparing the video about that. It will be available on Friday.
Why shorten output flange ?
Ti avoid them rubbing against the plates.
Do you recommended installing new bearings and seals when doing the conversion?
Not necessarily, but it is a good opportunity to get all done once the diff is disassembled 👍🏻
@@RacingDiffs it works on E46 325 compact?
Is it possible to send you guys my differential for the install?
I'm affrad that shipping cost would exceed the value of the job itself. Therefore we are making tutorials so you can do it locally.
My car is a 1989 320i E30 with a 3.91 open diff 168mm case, the problem is that its making whinning/humming noise at high speed, I live in Romania and no one repairs differentials for e30 here, what can i do?
You can do it by yourself. We have the complete kit available with all bearings and seals. Price is 179eur + shipping. You can use this video as a reference to learn how to change bearings and seals.
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@@RacingDiffs But i dont think its the bearings that cause the humming, I think the gear inside are damaged, or not? Can you help me please?
This is the least possible option. Gear can get damaged only if the diff vas driven with 0 oil onside. On the other hand, bearings and seals should be replaced from time to time.
@@RacingDiffs I understand, Well, Can you give me the link to the bearings I need? I cant find it on the site, thank you so much
Sure. The link is below.
racingdiffs.com/collections/bearings/products/bmw-differential-bearing-set-type-mm-millimeter-e30-e36-e34
How can you know which kit fits your e36? Or e30
Which model you have?
@@RacingDiffs a have a 1996 e36 320i
You need the kit type 168mm. Check the link below.
racingdiffs.com/collections/lsd-conversion-sets/products/bmw-e46-e90-e92-e39-e60-lsd-conversion-set
do you machine 4mm off of each flage or 2mm off of each?
4mm of each.
If i do a burn out, Will it lock up?
It sure will. That's the point of the LSD conversion set 👍🏻
@@RacingDiffs yeah but i dont know anything about the looking %. Like How much is 25% compared to 70%. Is it How much power i Can hold before it slips?
If your car has 100Nm, for example, 25% lock LSD means that 1 wheel with less traction gets 25 Nm.
Is there another method of shortening the flanges? Not everyone has a lathe machine lol
You can use the hand grinder too.
On my differential I've gotten the pumpkin out of the middle. I just can't figure out how to remove the weird star-shaped. I think oil catch thing. I don't know what it's exactly called but If you have any tips on how to remove please let me know. I'm very confused by it and I don't think I can get the gear off if I don't get the thing off
If I remember correctly, you need 12 angled socket 19.
Sorry I think you're thinking of the ring gear. I'm trying to explain something that I don't know the name but you have a picture of it on the small case. E36 differential video. The wallpaper photo shows a little star thing that surrounds in between the bearing and the actual differential That's what I'm trying to remove that I don't know how to
Correction E36 small case 75% LSD 4 clutch video cover 👍
I got the star thing that I was talking about off but is there a way that I can put that LSD square with the springs in it in the differential without having to remove the ring gear. I am breaking every tool that I have Just trying to get one singular bolt off of the ring gear.
Never mind vice down everything down
This converts your stock open diff to a mechanical LSD? Does this work for the small case 2,79 from an '84 325e?
I think it will fit . They have different kits for different casings . S, M & L.
30% lock?
25% declared.
The only thing I can think of that I could possibly do is message you through the Instagram and do like a FaceTime putting it together. Can't think of anything else. I do so much s*** watch tutorials everything and it just somehow doesn't help God. Unbelievable. Don't worry about responding real quickly. I'm giving up for a good little bit cuz smash my thumb so pissed are the clutches different or same? Could that be a problem? I'm trying to think and I can't think of anything that's wrong. It's driving me nuts
Why do you need to shorten the flanges and the purpose
That is necessary to creat clearence for conversion set. Otherwise it won't work as flanges will prevent plates from blocking gears.
I have a non m3 lsd so do I still have to shorten the flanges? Somone told me you only have to shorten the flanges if you have a m3 lsd diff.
@@CityHunt3R911 if you had a LSD why would u do this
@@Silv3rdragonsz I didnt but I bought one after I posted this, so I'm not getting this anymore
Do you provide overseas Delivery?
Of course.
How about installation? is there a trusted place? I'm from Indonesia🤙
@@thomasrustiawan9085 we don't have any contacts there. Been selling sets to Indonesia, but we don't know any trusted mechanics there.
Any Precautions when fitting the conversion set? not to mess up? and is 25% lock from the conversion set is enough to do drifting?
@@thomasrustiawan9085 just stock to the video and you will do good. Check testing videos to see how it should perform. But won't be good for competition drifting. This is more street variant.
If you can't think of any mistakes that I did I don't know. Ask me questions just anything I need to figure this out. I didn't go all this way just to f****** not have it f****** work when I'm doing everything everything right? God it makes me f****** crazy cuz I do everything right and it's not right somehow
I cant cant wrap my head around how it works
Check out this video.
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Just eondering how u will get it off if need lol
That's easy. Press it back through the output flange hole, tighten blocking tools again, and take it out. The same way it came in.
You hit the center pin in with a hammer, big risk of breaking locking clip, you apply threadlocker the wrong way..
Atleast thats what you say in your instructon video of the 3 most common faults people do when mounting.
You should delete this video so people dont do it wrong after watching it..