How To Set Up A Crowd Microphone For Worship
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- Why the heck would I need a crowd mic? How do I even set it up? Don't stress out too hard because in this video, Jake and I set up a congregation mic for our in ear mix at church. We found a super cheap microphone that gets the job done well, we show you how to place your mic, and then there's a few demonstrations of the crowd mic in action with Jake's in ear mix. This mic set up is a game changer, and helps an in ear mix feel immensely less isolated.
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I use a pair of Sony shotgun microphones placed low on center stage in an X-Y configuration to minimize phase cancellation issues. We set up in a school cafeteria every week, which prevents us from hanging the microphones. I apply a high-pass filter set to about 170 Hz to help reduce the sounds coming from the subwoofers. Additionally, I add a gentle 2 dB boost around 9 kHz to add clarity to the sounds of applause. The stereo pair sounds fantastic in the IEMs as well as the live-streaming video. I reverse pan the microphones at FOH for the live-stream mix so that viewers receive a proper sound perspective of our worship services. Surprisingly, that does make a difference, although I'm certain that most viewers don't notice or even care. Attention to details. Ambient (crowd) microphones truly make a difference and I highly recommend using them for IEMs and live-streaming purposes.
Thank you so very much for taking the time to give us some insight on how you have your shotgun mics configured.
Would you kindly be able to tell me if the phase canceling you mention is what I might be dealing with? I purchased this mic, and tested it. I only tested one. Voices only, talking or singing, sound great. But when a piano is played, the mic doesn't even pic the sound up. It's like it's canceling it out completely! I do not know enough about what I'm doing to understand all the lingo. If I had two mics, and placed them in a configuration like you're talking about, could that help me? Thanks!
I like to compress my audience alot like 15db of compression I set a ratio of from 6:1 to 8:1 and bring threshold down until I get that 15 or so db of compression. Just blends way better and it's loud and proud during transition which I think is super important for the broadcast mix.
I'm working on this myself in our church. I've long had some general room mics to pick up the acoustics of the room, but they don't pick up the congregation very well. Our youth has had a shotgun mic for awhile but hasn't used it recently. I borrowed it to experiment with it for the stream. Our room isn't acoustically sound, so we have a lot of challenges in it. However, I've experimented with the shotgun mic on one of the side wings and it's working fabulously for the stream. I'm planning to get two and return the one to the Youth so I can mic two areas of the congregation for the stream mix. We're not on in-ears yet, but we hope to be on in-ears in the next year or so, at least for the praise team singers. This is helpful for understanding that I'm actually doing it right. Now I need to settle on a brand. The Youth shotgun is a Rode. I'm open to suggestions for the best one.
I have used 2 cardioid mics from my drum set. And result was great. So I definitely recommend you to use stereo in ears.
Thanks for this! Crowd mics were a game changer for us. Side note ... my biggest take away from this video was that cable spool idea. Great idea! One of our biggest time wasters is tangled cables. Thanks for all you do!
Alex Hawkins me too. Little thinks help sometimes the most.
If you have the processing available, you can add a compressor(s) to the audience mics that are sidechained to the Main L-R buss, the Vocal Group, etc. that will duck them down when the worship or speaking is what you need to focus on, and let them fade in to fill in between. This has been very effective for us in "automating" the audience mics so they're providing the ambience without cluttering up the mix or decreasing intelligibility.
@Matin Massinger - Hello Martin, I would love to learn more about you sidechain setup. I have 2 mics hanging down from the ceiling in stereo pointing toward the crowd. They're about 10 feet apart. I sometimes feel like they're overshadow my vocals or they're not picking up the crowd enough. I have a x32 mixer.
What mixer do you have? Any more detailed info on how you’ve set that up? We have an X32 and I really want to improve our IEM mixes.
Hey, @@countstoneula! It's been a while since I did this on an M32/X32, but I believe you would select the channel(s) your audience mics are on, and go to the compressor, or "Dynamics," tab. Then, you press the down arrow to go to the second page of parameters. On the far right should be "Key Source," which I believe can be set to any Channel, Aux, or Buss. So, you would select your main L-R output, or perhaps your Vocal Buss, or whatever you want to activate the compressor on your audience mics in order to duck them out of the broadcast mix. I would suggest a fairly steep ratio, medium attack, and super slow release. That will help this to be a little more transparent. I would also suggest a fairly aggressive HPF and LPF on your audience mics, which will help them not introduce a ton of unhelpful information (I use a HPF around 3-400Hz, and a LPF around 4-6kHz). Let me know if this is helpful... Good luck!
Hey, @@danielalexis9409 ! I'm sorry to just be responding. It's been a while since I did this on an M32/X32, but I believe you would select the channel(s) your audience mics are on, and go to the compressor, or "Dynamics," tab. Then, you press the down arrow to go to the second page of parameters. On the far right should be "Key Source," which I believe can be set to any Channel, Aux, or Buss. So, you would select your main L-R output, or perhaps your Vocal Buss, or whatever you want to activate the compressor on your audience mics in order to duck them out of the broadcast mix. I would suggest a fairly steep ratio, medium attack, and super slow release. That will help this to be a little more transparent. I would also suggest a fairly aggressive HPF and LPF on your audience mics, which will help them not introduce a ton of unhelpful information (I use a HPF around 3-400Hz, and a LPF around 4-6kHz). Let me know if this is helpful... Good luck!
@@martinmassingerlots of great tips!! Thanks, I’ll give it a try this weekend. I’m going to get my iPad app running so I can control all these parameters while mixing my IEMs. Thanks again for these tips!!
3:10 I’m nervous about you spinning that mic on bro
*music playing in mind* "You spin me right round baby right round, like a record baby...."
Thinking the same!! Yikes. Just loose the pole and turn that.
A few tips; crowd mics aren't only useful for capturing the crowd singing, they are very useful for capturing all kinds of reactions such as laughter, and applause. So you want to be ready for hand clapping, whistling, screaming, and depending on where you are and what's going on, you could even have instruments in the crowd such as tambourines, whistles and even vuvuzelas. Lol. It would be helpful to have compression, and aim for the high end frequencies. Also keep a watch on feedback. For setups where there is a mix of in-ear-monitors and floor wedges, please don't put any of the crowd mic signal into floor wedges because that's likely to cause feedback.
We are still using analog mixer. I'm guessing you don't connect the crowd mics to the main mix? this
would cause feedback
1:45 not very accurate. Shotgun microphones are very directed toward the front, so straight out. But it will also pick up quite a lot from the back and from the sides. So you have to keep that in mind to not have feedback from the monitor/main boxes.
I was just going to jump in the comments about this. Shotguns pick up quite a bit from behind, even long tubes. This AT 875 behaves more like a supercardiod than a standard shotgun like NTG 4 or MKH416.
But it's not possible for it to create a feedback loop if you aren't running it through FOH or monitors. Congregation mics are only needed for livestream, recording and IEMs; not FOH/monitors.
Try putting it on your trust totem with an Manfrotto Clamp. You can put it up high so it’s like having a mike from the top.
Such a good idea. Thanks for sharing!
Right on time when I was thinking abut this because our recording doesn't have that live vibe. Thanks for the confirmation, and God bless.
I had the opportunity to chat with a retired TV engineer recently who had worked on the UK's BBC1 'Songs of Praise' programme which broadcasts hymns sung by congregations in churches around the UK each Sunday. He said they used many mics to get as many angles on the sound as possible, and that way no one voice is likely to dominate the recordings. It's very effective and each congregation often sounds bigger than it actually is. In our church we have one condenser mic hanging from the ceiling and it works well, but more would be better, especially if they could all feed into one channel on the mixer, but I guess that would require a separate mixer to combine the signals because I don't think mics can be daisy-chained.
Just put them in an aux or matrix on youre console and you’re done
we've got two Rode NT5's as croud mic's. really great.
this works we do it for our livestream to get the live sound back in the remix.... i do with a wireless sennhiser
What the team I serve on does (Central Church, Las Vegas) we have 4 crowd mica that divide the crowd in 1/4 so we get more of a stereo ambience. Rather than just the middle section.
Hey Jake, thanks for this video. Really insightful and helpful :) thank you for all you guys do.
Thanks for all the great information you are providing. It appears from the comments that no one else has experienced the issue that we had. We use in ear monitors with the Behringer P16Ms and have a channel available for a crowd mic. Each musician could have as little or as much as they wanted. The mic was positioned about 5 feet in front of the front row and was aimed at the center of the room. There seemed to be a significant delay to what we were hearing in our headphones. The congregation was several milliseconds behind us, which then was about doubled getting back to the crowd mic. It was throwing our timing off (we don't use a click track). We haven't really had time to experiment around with mic placement, etc., so now we only use it for the recorded ministry.
Could you post a video on how you route the crowd mic in the mixer? How to do record the crowd mic without inserting it into the Main LR mic? How do you route it into ProTools/Logic Pro?
Can you make a video on how you route the crowd mics for the wing? Having a bit of trouble routing both of mine and finding the right gain as its causing feedback
Hello! Thanks for the skill-sharing! My question is does your worship team has a choir and could you describe the technical part of how the sound captures? Do they sing into the dynamic or condenser mics? How do they hear themselves? Thanks!
What song is that in the example section? Cant seem to find it,any help is appreciated! Thanks ❤
The mic cable spool...the cringe I experienced when I saw that lol. That’s one way of really testing your XLR’s durability.
We use some old choir mics for our congregation and we have them setup in Stereo and man it's a whole nother level having them integrated in the mix.
I completely agree! It keeps your mix from sounding so dry
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Is there a spesific reason for picking an shot gun? There is a sound comming in from the back of the mic. (I wouldn‘t put it therefore at Center Stage)
I purchased one of these microphones and tested it. It worked fine when there were only voices singing or talking, but when the piano was playing, it seemed to cancel the mic out and it didn't record anything through the livestream. I tried placing the mic at different angles, facing away from the piano, facing toward, sideways, etc. - and even further away from the piano in the back of the room. Everytime, the piano seemed to cause the mic to shut off/cancel. Any ideas? We are in and old building with fairly high ceilings.
I'm having a huge issue with my ambient room mics -- I have set them up, and I have them routed to our p16's and we can hear them great! However, no matter how much I send them to the live stream mix, we can't hear them in our live stream... What am I doing wrong? How do I route them so that we can hear them in the livestream bus as well as the p'16's? HELP! :) We are using the x32... Thanks!
I always made the mistake of using vocal mics for the crowd mics and they picked up everything.
We have a bigribbon mic on like row two on the same mic stand holding the livestream-smartphone (which gets a separate audio mix from the qu-16.)
What is the model number of the sony.
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Great video! I have one question though: what if you have a congregation where there’s a lot of screaming (in the spirit) and you don’t want to have that in the mix? Is it then good to abandon the whole concept of ambient mic? Or is there a way around that?
Compressor, EQ
Have you switched back from the Studiolive 32SC?
So avoid dirtiness in you.mix , you just have.to lower the gain and the volume?
The amount of people who believe in absolute bollocks is terrifying
We’re starting to use these mics at my church. I’m a drummer and we play with sequences. Any advice you guys have, as far as, how do I handle the room mics in my ears? I feel like they could add delay to my ears, enough that could maybe make me get off tempo.
The best advice possible is: dial the sound to your taste. Test different variations of volume and balance and choose the one that makes you the most comfortable.
Ballast Media has some great videos about crowd mics.
We use the same mics we got two of those, they worked well for us. We experienced a couple different spots we ended up putting them beside the speakers not too close
So I have set up a pair of crowd mics and I'm using a Midas 32 mixer. I cannot stop them from going through the mains. I turned the Main Bus off, I tabbed over to their send tab and muted the Main (15 &16) channels, I attempted using DCAs, without any luck. What am I missing???
I wouldn't necessarily use a shotgun for that, I guess it depends on the specifics of the room. I'd consider a matched stereo pair of condenser cardioids. Set up in either XY or simply Y, as this is generally the recommendation from top industry professionals for capturing room ambience. I think this is a more versatile option, if say you wanted to record a church Choir or concert event in a space that has good acoustics, reverb ambience etc. This may not be your church, but if say you have a sweet sounding venue, you'd have the ability to do that really well.
A cheap option would be Samson CO2, much better would be Lewitt LCT140 Air.
The Lewitts have some switch settings that improve versatility & are a very well regarded mic commonly used for instruments, overheads & room sound.
On the other hand, a shotgun has a very narrow polar pattern and does less well at rear rejection which is often limited to specific frequencies. A cardioid would give wider room coverage & better rear rejection which makes them better at capturing room sound, rather than just a small spot within the congregation.
Anyway, experimenting with different option generally leads to better venue specific solutions. Hire gear is an affordable way to do that.
hye... how much crowd mic are u using ?? 1 pair.. left and right?? and 1 question... if i stream the full band jamming from studio.. can i use it?? and where the position this mic??? tq...
Should you use a congregation mic if you don’t have a large congregation? The room will be pretty live. More ppl in the room dampens the sound. Would you recommend still using it?
At our church, we just changed rooms, to a much smaller room. We don't have IE monitors, but a couple wedges. However, a few times I couldn't hear the leader (myself being the drummer) due to the congregation being so loud. ^^ Such a great problem to have! hahahaha
I used 2 AKG high end pencil mic’s in an X-Y configuration. We were blessed and had a chance to leave our worship room for the youth and finished the larger room in the building and got a blank canvas so now we use some hanging tiny shotgun mic’s from the roof with the ceiling having an aesthetic clean wood frame and lights that hide everything in plain sight. This is by far a better and more useful way to record the congregation in my opinion the best way. It is super versatile and it basically is non existent and never needs set up! I can use a mic stage L to get the Body in the mix if the C or Stage R is kinda dead. It’s nice to choose 4 room Mic’s to choose from and a slightly different sound by muting others to keep noise floor low.
Not a congretation mic. Its a crowd mic
You should give a try to the tbone EM9900 (don't know if it's sells in your area). It's cheaper and really good. It should make the job as well. You also don't speak about it but those mic needs to pass through a 31 band GEQ. You can really gain more db if you kill unwated frequencies. I would also go for two of those, paning stereo and you'll be in heaven.
....So if you want to record vocals and guitar coming out of a single solo amp, like a Fender Acoustasonic....you could get one of these, put it in front of it, and get good sound into your smartphone I am guessing.......
We put ours on the far sides of the stage to send them out in stereo. They sound great!
Ideally you would want them in the center in a YX or AB configuration. Putting them on either side of the stage to achieve stereo might give you issues with cancellations of different frequencies.
Robert Friedriszik good idea! So far, it sounds good and I haven’t had too many problems with cancellation
@@RyanJohns I'm just saying it might 😅 I'm a broadcast engineer and work on live sporting events and it's just very bad practice. But there's also a lot of regulations for us from the EBU to achieve proper stereo atmospheric sound of the crowds.
Robert Friedriszik I’ll have to give it a shot!!
I've taken to putting our room mic in the baptismal when it's empty, but I'm getting too much room verb and not enough room people, so time to find a new spot.
I think you got the type of micros wrong. Shotgun mics get sounds from the back and also sides, cardioid mics are the ones who don't. Besides that, great video! God bless.
Can't do IEMs without house mic! I feel like I'm just singing in my head with my fingers in my ears! So isolated!
"Natural" Reverb, hearing congregation, hear pastor as I play behind prayer (don't want that mic in ears just for that), hear sound booth (or band that don't have mics) talk to me during practice (no talk back in ears, same reason), hear congregationon live stream,...
We also just pointed an old choir mic at the congregation. Hanging between mains. Works pretty well.
Right on with this one Jake.
I'm confused why did you use a shotgun mic? Aren't those intentionally hyper directional? I imagine a shotgun would pick up the least amount of the entire crowd.
I guess it is because picking up too many sounds (like those from speakers) will blur the monitor mix. Plus the congregation mic is mainly for getting the feel instead of actually listening to every detail happening in the congregation, a shotgun mic will be a good choice which is easier to manage 🤔 If the venue is large I think they may have more than one shotgun mic.
We have one and I use it periodically for iem.. Where we have it right now (back of stage) there is too much "reverb" and throws off how I hear my guitars... I definately need to move the mic: I do suffer from feeling isolated from the congregation with a silent stage and IEM's.
I guessing you're not having the audience mic going through FOH whilst the service is running? ...I sure hope not. 🤔
Has there been an update to this video? I'm looking to do this mostly for our live stream as we are now at about 50% at home and 50% attending. Though we do have 1 musician that uses in ear monitors and might appreciate it.
How did you guys end up setting up/EQing that mic? I've heard some that put a really dramatic high pass filter on it. Any tips or tricks?
harry kane?
What’s the best EQ for crowd mic??
I Got a set of behringer condensers for like $70 and is working very good.
can you tell me what software do you use for metronome and machine that says fill, all in, chorus? Thank you
I'm sure it adds a LOT to your live stream mix. Our live streams are a pretty good mix but they're missing that "live" feel because there's no crowd. I've been pushing for this for a while. I'll get them to do it eventually. 😉
Same feeling too. Though I'm a Catholic (since this setup is mostly applied to other Christian denominations), I think adding the audience's (or congregants') reaction to the broadcast/livestream mix makes it more complete, making one attending the Mass/service virtually as if he/she is inside the venue. Tried in some of our Masses (services), they sound better I think with some of the reactions heard, as well as the reverb inside the church. But my problem is too much air or background or white noise from inside the church, as well as frequency noise from our fan despite the cables we used for the mics are balanced.
@@marionmarcel08 Either your gain is too high on the mics or they're placed too far from the crowd or a nasty combination of the 2. Move them closer to the people and lower the gain. Plus, you can run no EQ with high and low cuts to reduce the hiss and other "noise" that's not in your standard vocal range. On my house mix, I cut my vocals from ~150Hz for male vocals to ~184Hz for females. On my broadcast mix, I cut them all sound ~212Hz or higher. You might think it makes them sound thin but, it cleans up a LOT of stage noise from drums, bass and other instruments. Keeping that in mind, you'll be able to clean up your crowd mics.
@@kevinmcd112 How do you have a copy of your vocals so that you can edit your vocals only on the livestream?
Tell us more about Jake Tuned channel. You running Waves? What's up there?
LOL on the manscaped advertisement middle of the video!
What would you recommend for something that I could suspend from the ceiling?
What's the best EQ for Stream mix.
Are there any crowd mics that can be hanged? We dont have space to put it in the front of house.
Hey brother! Getting a lot of help from your channel. Thanks.
I have two Samson C03 mics right under each speaker in stereo.
What do you prefer to use as a second microphone to hear the congregation?
Hey, I got a question.
- My congregation room (or chapel) for my church is a small room, ~20 ft by 40 ft by 9 feet; the room is a rectangle, flat, and there is no elevated stage for the worship team.
- Envision the worship team at one of the skinny ends of a rectangle, not the wider sides of the shape
- Starting from the bottom of the rectangle/room, the worship team uses about 12 ft (of the 40 ft) and the PA speakers are positioned at 12 feet facing the congregation.
- The congregation is positioned ~6 feet away from the PA (18 ft from the bottom of the rectangle/room)
Questions:
- If I want to use a crowd mic, where should I place it? In front of the worship leader's (middle of the rectangle) mic facing the crowd? Hanging from the ceiling (center of the rectangle) at 12ft or 18 ft away from the bottom of the rectangle/room?
If I use a crowd mic, will it only pick up one person singing since the room is small?
Thanks body of Christ!
I would recommend you use 2 shotgun (uni-directional microphones), and not 1. I would have them hanging from the ceiling by the 1st row facing the crowd. You can either have them together in the middle in a 'Y' configuration (facing the corners of the room) or have them about 6 ft apart facing the back of the auditorium. Try different configurations and see what works best for you.
hi... how do i get the crowd mics to go only to my record mix (matrix)? x32
What’s your eq setup for crowd mics ??
Bonjour et bravo pour toutes les vidéo que tu fais, elles sont super intéressantes et répondent souvent aux questions que je me pose pour mon église. Continue Jake 👍🏻👍🏻
If you can hang these, these are awesome. We use these both for choir mics and for congregation fill. I hang them from our lighting trusses and face them straight down - picks up awesome congregation singing fill sounds.
www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/8660edbf634f9ce7/index.html
Same mic here, white one hung permanently in a Sunday-hired hall, so not noticeable. Did quickly realise we needed a delay to prevent an echo from the mains. So also not suitable for in ears, and added a shotgun at the front.
We run 2 Behringer b5 each side of stage, was such a game changer for us
Love the idea of voice prompt throughout the song
Hey!! I use a music stand at my church right now, but I am wanting to get away from it to engage more with the congregation. Could you make a video on how to memorize a worship set??
Anne Cookie You can place music sheets with lyrics and chords on the floor👍🏻other than that you would have to just memorize the lyrics😂and chords
Wow thanks for the great info. At my church we currently use a pair of Shure PG48 dynamic mics to get our crowd sound, with the gain turned up all the way! After watching this video I'm recommending we get shotgun mics! The only thing I'm worried about is that I noticed these mics need phantom power. Our mixer only has one switch which sends phantom power to all the channels, will this not damage other equipment connected which doesn't need that power?
You can get an external phantom power supply like the Behringer MicroPower PS400 Phantom Power Supply to just power that one channel.
@@DocNo27 Thanks for getting back to me. Much appreciated!
Great content. Thank you for what you do!
You do the service in a cinema?
What app does he use for his in ears 🕵🏽
I've thought about this too.
We send a room mic primarily to in ears only. We use a Shure beta 91a. Our worship team loves it. We prop it in the center, angled towards the congregation (propped against t stage). No one ever notices that it’s there, it’s in line with the speakers, but also catches some stage ambience. Stage ambience is important, so that they feel like they are still in the room. We used to do small diaphragm stereo mics, but it was unnatural. The boundary mic is very natural to how we actually listen to sound from the stage. We’re very happy with it.
Also, our iems are wired, using the p16s from behringer, so they can control the volume.
You use a kick drum mic for a crowd mic? Interesting.
Thank you!
We use two Behringer C-2 Studio Condenser Mic Matched Pair, a cardioid pattern. Placed floor level on each side of the platform.
Randal Ovcen what’s a matched pair
This id for Stereo settings, thye fit togheter.
Hello!
What Digital Mixer did you use? Is it a Behringer X series?
M32r simular though
@@lukeramlet275 thx so much, I'm trying to get digital mixer for my church
"Stage"
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How would you eq a crowd mic?
I'd cut low end to 120Hz or so just so it doesn't boom during preaching and to maybe 500 during worship so you don't get all boomy idk that's just me id love some input from Jake :)
To me, the mic only audio, starting at 5:50 in the video, was by far the best and natural sounding. Also, it requires one fewer sound system tech to mix it, and that's sometimes crucial in smaller churches. it's already mixed since the mic is getting the house audio. Set master input level and you're good. Thanks for this excellent demo!
Just a thought, but if you're going to have someone test a mic for more than a few seconds, you might have them read out of a Bible.
nah not necessarily lol
@@ildjess, I didn't say it was necessary, but it does make it easier for the person who is testing the mic because they don't have to think up something to say.
I like watching Luke struggle. Lol
@@Churchfront Yes, yes you do, maybe a little too much lol.
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We put our congregation no where because we don’t have one
If I had that click track with voiced instructions going through my IEMs i would quit this Sunday. All that should be rehearsed and understood by every member of the team before the service. If I had to listen to that I would quit tomorrow.
pretty lame right?
I listened to the IEM feeds of a major band awhile back (I believe it was U2) and they had the same cues happening. For songs they’ve played thousands of times. Just food for thought.
Perfect example of a band that’s lost all passion for their music and continues carrying on strictly for money.
Actually our teams varies the music week to week. Hard to learn all the parts and flow but fun continually learning new stuff,
i love the voice reminders because I have a lot going and don't mind the help/reminder, You may be one with a great memory and always know where you are in the music but you CAN easily tell that some band members are waiting for the first note/beat/feeling of the "next" event in a song to find out where they are. Sad but true. Also I treat a click track like a drummer. Just to keep time. We get off sometime BUT the click brings us back.
🤔🤔🤔 I know literally world class musicians that use this. Obviously all musicians and singers should rehearse individually but nothing wrong with these tools.
He said "stage". I'm out! lol! (If it's a stage, it's for entertainment. It's a "platform", it's for worship)
Sorry... I disliked the video because, to my eyes and viewpoint, a Church’s altar is not a concert stage. It is the place where you bring Praise, Worship, your tears to the lord to offer and ask for forgiveness, repentance... Churches these days... 🤷🏻♂️
Ruben Chavez what makes you assume those things don’t happen at this church?
@Chad T I’m didn’t assume anything nor imply those things didn’t happened there. I saw only a stage and as stated in the video, it’s a church (we both know they refer to the temple as we are the church of God) but never the video showed anything else besides seats and the stage (they pretty much showcased all of it) and that’s pretty much it, you don’t have to assume anything. It’s all there for anyone to see. 🙄
Ruben Chavez it’s a tech-related video, not a church service. Maybe you clicked on a wrong link or something.
I'm pretty sure he mentioned that they are a mobile setup and this is not their building. I know he has mentioned that in other videos as well.
Church isn't the building or the stage. just saying