MyEnergi Zappi Electric Vehicle Charge Point Installation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- MyEnergi Zappi Electric Vehicle Charge Point Installation
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Jordan great vid , do you need to do a zappi installers course before being able to fit them. Thanks Tim
Hi, did you by chance drill though the DPC there @ 25:00. What would be the minimum depth expected to lay armoured cable. Some say it should be at least 1ft down.
These TH-cam sparks are all musical! Jordan plays the guitar, John ward plays the organ and Bundy plays the flexible conduit
R u an electrician
That CT Clamp cable: might be a good idea to use a cable tie around the cable in the harvi box to provide some strain relief in case it gets pulled.
Good idea!
Or tie a knot in the cable
The Zappi got some really clever functions.
I love the solar charge option, and I understood from another video from the MyEnergy channel that with the Harvi its possible to monitor the amount of energy generated by your solar panels as well by fitting CT clips on the cables coming from the inverter.
As a result it's possible to see how much current is going in or out the grid, into the car and from the solar panels, and then the usage of other consumers in the house can be seen as a result.
In the future they will offer a switch box to make other consumers in the house like a washing machine or tumble dryer intelligent, they are switched on when there is a surplus of solar energy.
This can be a great advantage when having a smart meter which monitors consumption and feedback from or into the grid, in the near future in the Netherlands consumption from the grid will cost 3 times as much as you get payed for feedback, and this may apply to other countries as well.
So worth using as much as possible of your own generated power directly.
Also a big advantage is the built in type A DCR.
I wish I had you as my installer. I had a right cowboy. Blew out a brick being too heavy handed: cracked another brick;. Broke two drills due to overheating when drilling an earthing rod. Drilled my charger to the wall in situ causing the internals to be full of brick dust, and finally, pinned the cable to plasterboard without using wall plugs. Apart from that perfect. :). Thanks for sharing
Ah sorry to hear that! You get what you pay for i'm afraid, we are expensive but good!
From what I've seen of your videos being across the pond, the Zappi is a really cool and intelligent charger.
Great video. Very well described performance and functionality with the install process. What I really like is that as a DIYer I can prepare for an electrical installation of an EV charger in the future by getting suitable cable under my floors from the consumer unit to an outside location. This way I do not need to have SWA screwed to my outside walls. This video confirms the capacity rating and prep work ahead of an installer coming in.
The Storm SWA glands are very similar in design to Pro Term SWA glands which I first saw and liked at a trade show around 2010. As a result I gave up on the brass SWA because the Pro Term were so easy to fit and did a much better job of connecting the armour and sealing around the outer sheath.
I retired just before EV charging really started in earnest.
Always something new to learn. Keep up the good work.
Excellent vid Jordan . To good in fact as it will make non electricians think they can get away with installing them themselves. Shame about the extra holes in the wall but sometimes it can’t be helped.
By far the best channel for electricians keep the good work up 👍
Thanks! 😁
The zappi made a victory fanfare sound from final fantasy. Cool.
Good video. Enjoyed the start to finish job including wiring. Well done mate keeping me busy watching your TH-cam videos whilst on lockdown.
Thanks! 😁
being from the usa one thing i love is your armoured cable system seems a little pain in the ass with the glands but so much stronger than our direct burial pvc polymer coated cables
Yeah it’s a pain to work with but you get used to it.
The direct burial cable was a bear to strip, but easy to bury and not so unwieldy as SWA . On the other hand the BX cables I found were weird
From one electrician to another.. Good job! Great video, very thorough
really good video Jordan. well explained, from start to finish and showing how to wire everything up as well. 10/10 mate.
Thanks!
You certainly got a lot done in one day! Great job and very neat.
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I wish I knew what all that meant! Lovely neat installation. 👌
Great stuff Jordan...nice job :-) those Zappi's have stolen the market, makes things much simpler.
Yeah they are great
This was really interesting. Do you not need the armoured to be 18” under the path with yellow warning tape above? For some reason I though you did but good to see I’m wrong as I need to go under a similar path for my own install. Great video!
just purchased the slicer, old school as always used the hacksaw, was taught that way.
Really enjoy your videos mate... Good to see your ev stuff is going well 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks! 😁
52:37 You hear: Zappy is now happy! :-)
Greetings from germany
Thanks!
Beautiful job Jordi, thank you for the video
so interesting in the UK there are so many brands of Ev chargers. I'm a sparky in North America and we mostly install the tesla wall connectors or a nema 14-50 outlet and the adaptor from tesla.
Very professional! I really enjoy your uploads even though I know absolutely nothing about electrics.
Thanks!
Artisan Electrics You’re welcome mate.
Your a pro technician. Always inspiring. I've always wanted to be a sparky but never had the opportunity but watching your vlogs always inspires me to start from level 1 even though I'm 48 years old 😜. Do you think it's too late for me? Please advise, would appreciate your feedback. Thanks
You can do it!
Great video, lots of these will be going into homes in the next few years, good to see how its done,
Thanks!
the beep tunes is win tune in final fantasy lmao
9:33 Speeded-up drill sounds just like a dentists drill - arghhh!
😂
Great work .. thank you .. I need to do Ev charging course .. I can’t certify .. thanks for sharing your knowledge
The happy noise is actually the victory fanfare music from Final Fantasy 7. Wonder how they got away with that.
That ff7 beep from the zappi!
😂
52:36 Some engineer at MyEnergi is a big fan of Final Fantasy games XD
37:43 "I hate the ocean, said the sailor" :-)
HI there I just looked at the section below the TH-cam video, You are a veritable Father Christmas, with all the offers. I guess most are generically generated. As I can't take advantage of the lb50 electricity discount as I'm way down in the Nether regions of the planet Christchurch New Zealand.
Nice job a bit ott with all the safety gear to drop them little holes though
Wow i laughed so hard when Zappi made that tune :P And I can tell you that it is the music from the game Final Fantasy VII after you won a battle :P
*stops routing the armoured into the board to clean up the messy board*
nice. I'm sure whoever is in there next will appreciate it.
Check the buss bar underneath mate. Those two types of wylex MCB ‘do not’ line up along the bottom. They are a few mm out!
I done an EICR the other day. Had a mixture of NSB and NHX MCB’s, buss bar was bent to make it fit!
Hi! Thanks for the tip!
The new wylex mcb’s are not compatible with the old consumer units , at least that was the advice I received from wylex when I enquired before.
I think you’ll find that the torque for the main Isolator screws are greater than 2.3Nm -probably 3 or 3.5 Nm. I’m always reluctant to touch the buss bar with my fingers (I’ll use my long nose pliers) even if I’ve proven dead.
Good call!
Every time I watch your videos it cost me bloody money lol...armeg magnetic screwdrivers orderd..armeg hole saw orderd... do I have something similar already..yes... do I need these new tools...no... are you still going to order them... yes lol
Great video that Zappi V2 seems much less of a faff than the Tesla charger.
@Artisan Electrics I also spotted that when you drill through the wall from inside the cupboard with the consumer unit in it you also appear to have drilled through the damp proof course and you didn't answer Chris B's comment either when he passed comment about that you conveniently ignored it. If I had done that I would have ensured that I blew all of the Loose dust out of the hole before I passed the armoured cable through and then after inserting the armoured cable I would have pumped the hole full of clear silicone in order to try and restore the integrity of the DPC otherwise it's quite likely that you could end up getting Rising Damp in the wall .
At least it is something that you should be more aware of on your next install
Thanks well spotted! You’re probably right.
The silica packs that have come with new shoes, the charging point etc would probably help a little with the moisture in your toolbox.
Good point! I was thinking one of those little dehumidifiers?
Top tip, you can buy large silica gel packs very cheaply on ebay / Amazon.
I have these in my tool cases, particularly useful for precision stuff that often gets damp like my spectra laser level.
The other thing is to keep a bit of scouring pad in the box and some wd40, a quick rub will get any surface rust off and the wd40 will give a bit of protection.
Excellent video very detailed thank you
Thanks!
Nice video, I would of used metal cleats on the SWA-Regulation 521.10. 202 I know it seems OTT for the position of the cable, but I was previously picked up on an NICEIC inspection for using plastic cleats in a similar situation to your install
Really nice video 🙏🏽
Love your videos. What size cable have you used to supply the charging unit?
Nice job...did you forget the backplate from the Zappi that you've fitted on other videos ?
Going to ask my wholesaler to get some of those storm glands in.
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The happy noise is the victory sound after a battle in a game called final fantasy 7.
Cool!
Eyeup Jordan, you must mean business now pal, a high vis gaffas jacket!👍
Steven Murphy 😂 it was just raining!
Great as always . Loving these longer more in detail videos. I can't wait to fit 1 of these especially as they do away with rods. How long did you wait to become an approved installer for my energi after sending in paperwork?
David thanks! Yeah it took a while but glad I did it.
David I like these full length vids, shows it how it really is in the real world.
Great video, just one thing though the 100a sticker on the main cut out is not necessarily the size of the fuse fitted, it could be an 80a fuse less.
Yeah in that case you would have to ask the DNO what it is I guess
If you ever need another good pair of ferule crimps buy the knipex 97 53 09 ones if have one at work and one privete the go up to 16mm2 and are front crimping pliers.
Thanks I will check them out!
I understand that EV chargers (like the Zappi) require to be connected Type A (or Type B) RCD or RCBO at the consumer unit. It was my understanding that this Type A RCBO (or RCD) requires to be double pole. Could you please confirm that this is correct? Did you connect the new MCB for EV to the existing Double Pole RCD?
Great video!! I have a couple of questions,
1) why have you went onto the non rcd way? I'm assuming there is a reason? I know the have a 6ma rcd inside the charger there self,
2) have you done a video on setting up the charger and Harvey and Eddie?
3) whats this back plate that someone said you might have forgotten?
Hi! Thanks for watching.
1. The cable doesn’t need RCD protection as it’s armoured and clipped direct. If I put it on an RCD it would have to be a type B RCD as it’s upstream from the Type A RCD with 6mA DC protection that’s built in to the Zappi.
2. I’ve not done a video on this maybe I should...
3. The back plate is just to protect the tethered cable from being scratched against the wall. It clips on to the top of the Zappi and is held on by a couple of screws at the back.
Get some silica gel and dot them around ya tool boxes/van. Stops the rust.
Order the sachets on Amazon.
Why do you use the percussion drill for the drilling the brick? Would you not use the SDS all the time surely it's quicker?
Luke Heffernan because getting the SDS out the van takes longer than using what he used
So what make u recommend for outdoor caravan mains socket need charging AND PLUG MY GASLESS WELDER IN SOMETIMES.CHARGING JUST FOR CAMPERVAN LIFEPO4 BATTERY 105AH .
first class work A1
I love watching your videos and always learn plenty by watching them. I wanted to ask a question though about the supply cable. Would you consider using a 2 core SWA with blue and brown conductors? If you go into a plastic CU you can add a link to the earth bar as a continuation of the armourings rather than a bonding conductor. If you go into a metal CU, the link could be omitted as the metal body of the CU would finish the link to the earth bar. By using at 2 core cable you would be using the steel armourings to form a very large CSA conductor for fault current. I know you will have considered this option. Is there a reason why you don't use two core which would avoid the parallel paths you get when you have an earth conductor and and earth link from the gland? Keep up the good work.
HI, Did you issue the customer with a Part P completion certificate to satisfy Building control?
Invest in some Knipex wrench pliers mate. So much better to use than grips for armour glands
Thanks I will check it out
Completely agree, absolutely perfect for glands and crome plates so dont go rusty or seize up.
We are pivoting towards EV and Solar, how many hours does the job take on a billing question?
Well done mate, nice and neat 👍🏻
Cracking job !! Any chance you can come to Witney, Oxon - need new / upgraded consumer unit, (you’ll see why !!) main isolator & meter box and zappi fitted?
Nice install, could we get a updated van tour video soon please and thank you.
Yeah sure!
Storm glands look good have to give them a go
Yeah they are good
Maybe I’ve missed something but is there a mitigating factor that enables you connect a new circuit into the combustible enclosure?
Great video, that car charger covers half the EV charging course 😂
Yep! 👍
Myenergi have made the installation of EV car chargers so much easier with the ZAPPI
@@leebutterworth7465 definitely!
Is it me or did he miss adding the right hand device to the buzz bar?
Hi Jordan, Zappi say that with their load management you dont have to notify the DNO, however the OLEV forms asks for evidence that the DNO has been notified, I'd appreciate your view?
Why didn’t you install the backplate? If the gland is too big, how will it make a good earth connection to the SWA?
I am in the process of trying to have a a charger installed by BP Pulse. It's included with the car I am buying otherwise I would never be using BP Pulse based on the experience so far. Many online forms to fill in and the questions keep coming, including ones that I have already answered! Just to save them sending out someone to do a survey! Anyway I am not going to trust them to run the supply cable and will get my local Spark to do it neatly rather than easily! Is 10mm 3 core SWA off a 32A or 40A MCB on the non-RCD side of the main CU what he should be running? I have asked BP Pulse but no reply !!
Very good video mate...
Up in Scotland we were told by SELECT & NICEIC that we should be fitting SPDs for EV points due to the value of the equipment especially with car plugged in. How do you get round not Installing them. Are you doing risk assessments & passing responsibility onto client.
Interesting, thanks for the info. Down here nobody has told me that yet, but I guess it makes sense. Just makes an expensive job even more expensive tho! I’ve only been told they need to be fitted when doing consumer unit changes, which we do fit SPDs as standard now.
excellent informative video , do you need to put a notice on CU to say new colours used ?
Hi great video as ever. My garage supply has a 50A supply fed from a Type B 30mA rcbo could that be used? Love the look of this unit especially with the wireless ct's
Hi what size armoured cable did you use ? Thanks
Hi, brilliant video, can I ask what size of armoured cable di you use
Nice bro
If you were to run a single cable to a garage consumer unit to run an EV, a power circuit and a lighting circuit, what size armoured cable and MCB would you use?
Probably a 16mm 3 core on a 50A MCB
Thanks for the vdeo. With regards to the depth of the cable just under the slab, does that comply with regs?
I'm interested in the part where you talk about not having to inform the dno about the 60A main fuse with this charger. You said that it has the ability to restrict the current used so it doesn't go over 60A but what about the rest of the current being used inside the house. Does it have the ability to detect the current being used inside the house and adjust for that? Thank you and great video as always
Yes it reads the total load on the whole house and ramps down the charger if it gets close to 60amps or whatever you set it to as max
So what is the charging times like when it reduces the current it can charge with?
How does the Hub connect to the Zappi? I'm thinking of installing on a garage which is separate to the house and quite a way from the router. Worried that if it connects over WIFI that the signal might be too weak.
Great video! Really helpful! I am wondering though, is the PEN fault detection necessary for indoors garages? According to BS7681 section 722 is just for outdoors, am I wrong??
Thanks!
Hi Artisan. Brilliant video as usual. Am I right in thinking that the cables etc cost about £60 on top of the Zappi charger?
Tim Payne this one is tethered so the cable is included in the price. If you have just a socket you need to get a cable but most cars supply a cable with the car.
Have you just damaged the DPC? I thought you weren’t suppose to damage damp proof ?
56:10 why dose the zappi not just have WiFi and connect directly to the internet itself ? Why do you need an extra box?
Where did you purchase the Zappi V2 from? Isn't there like a 6 week wait for them?
I wonder the same :/
You can get them next day from certain places
I have a secret supplier! 😉
@@artisanelectrics ha! Can you buy direct from myenergi when your a approved installer?
Hi there, my garage does not have existing power and 40m from my house... Question: Is there any issues with splitting the the garage incoming supply between the Zappi charger (obviously not greater than the main supply 32A MCB)... Would welcome any advice as I would prefer to run on one main cable not two in my scenario.. Would welcome any advice from the Artisan Guru... thanks Ivan
may have been easier using some T&E, then done a joint in a wiska box on the front of the house rather than risk going through the damp course. I never understand why people put earth clamps outside exposed to the weather, we may have external clamps but the copper just corrodes, i know with those ground boxes they can be tricky to get a clamp on the inside, but it can be done. Obviously you had no option because the cable was too short.
Yeah good comment thanks.
I’d have moved the earth clamp to the inside of the huge gas meter box saves any weathering in the future
@@leebutterworth7465 those boxes are a pain to bond, there's a few big nuts and some flexi pipe and very little solid copper pipe, they are a crap design but I think you can just get a clamp on it though.
@AnthoyCharles I’d try my utmost to get a weatherproof bond on an external gas pipe
@@leebutterworth7465 yeah your right, I see bonding clamps all the time open to the elements I have even showed the NIC guy and he just says what's wrong with it, it's an external clamp, then when I mention corrosion he says yeah I have a point, that's what you are up against.
wait, it makes final fantasy sounds?
i dont have an ev, but i need one of those chargers
Would 5x6mm cable be enough for 22kw? Or would i need 5x10mm cable? (3 phase) Thanks
Hi Jordan,
What size is your armoured cable.
Regards
Why are all these customers out mine are always in maybe I look untrustworthy 🥴
😂
Would you choose the Tesla power wall instead ?