A selection of basic mistakes often made on CBT road rides. CBT = Compulsory Basic Training Topgear don't do bikes any more by the way. I still do bikes all the time!
I always found that having passed my car driving test before hand that it was a hell of a lot easier. Already knew the rules of the road and only had to worry about bike control and things like lifesavers.
Of course it is, if you have been on the road it will be. When i passed my big bike test and did my car test i didnt even need lessons because i was always so aware and safe from being on my bike, i found car driving was alot easier.
Me too. I just passed my motorbike test a couple of days ago after having driven a car for 10 years so knowing what I need to do on the road was, for the most part, second nature. Luckily I had already some motorbike experience from when I was younger and just riding my Dad's bike around the house and on private property so I knew where the motorcycle controls were and what they were used for so that helped too. The slow speed maneuvers and the extra observations that are required on a motorcycle I had to learn and work on. I plan on continuing to practice my slow speed stuff even though I have finished my test and all now because they are useful skills to keep sharp for the day when you may need them.
@Scoupe400 I learned to drive a car first, but rode a bike for 4 years before getting my first car. Learning to drive first made knowing how to ride better (rules of the road etc) as I feel a CBT doesn't teach half of what you need to know. But riding for years before actually driving has made me way more alert in a car than most other drivers. I think car drivers who have never ridden are too zoned out.
I actually found them funny plus went with the riding mistakes well. The blue scooter rider was terrible - surprised they let him out for the road ride... plus thankfully it was a quiet Sunday!! Accident waiting to happen there!
Glad I watched this I'll watch it over and over until it's drilled into me what I should, and should not do, then when I do my CBT I wont cause a heart attack for my instructor.
I was cracking up 😂 sorry know it’s serious as I passed my CBT today in howling gale force winds and torrential rain I thought I may have cocked up a few times this cheered me up ! , please listen to your instructors !!!!!
Compulsory Basic Training (CBT) - It's Training not a Test! First things first - Compulsory Basic Training (CBT) is not a test, it is a structured training course. It is not possible to fail the course. Most people will complete the training within a day.
Steven green yes you can fail, it is training not a test but you can fail, if you are a danger to others or yourself and don't show signs that you no what the rules of the road are then you fail, when I did my CBT the guy before me in the morning failed due to this and another had failed between me doing CBT and mod1 which was only a week, learn the highway code, go out with someone as a pillion or passenger in a car and get use to the rules of the road and you will be fine, if you already drive just brush up on your skills first it doesn't hurt and there's more at stake if you go wrong on a bike. when doing mod 2 as well the examiner was stricked with me as I already drove so just bare that in mind but best thing I've done and complete different way of life, good luck to you all, ride safe.
from an instructor - its a play on words really. strictly if you fail to complete training you come back to continue from where you left off. if you fail a test you have to retake the whole test *generally* i feel sometimes schools may use fails as perhaps a reason to charge extra over and above what they should
i do find it surprising how fast a newbie is expected to learn .. I did my CBT and went from car park doing figure 8's and going round in a circles straight to road in one day ! i know that's only way to learn but i did find it a bit much to take in. ..We did learn about junctions, give way, lanes ..etc but was only "simulated" on car park .. and its a huge amount to remember (as well as looking out for other cars) when you actually on road, and its very different to a car park.. am shocked government chose this method to learn people to ride a bike for first time.. well the complexity of road sense to be more precise, riding part easy.. no wonder new riders get knocked off
There is indeed a lot to know and deal with. Back in the day, most folk cycled before getting a powered two wheeler, so knew stuff. And motorbikes were the transport of the working class to get to the factories, so Govt didn't want to make it too tricky to get going. And on a bike you do pay attention, cos you know it will hurt if you get it wrong! Easy for folk to switch off in a car and feel very protected and safe, yet can cause a huge amount of death and mayhem. So, some historical reasons and some reality, is why CBT allows you to head out on the road as a learner. These days, most young folk could do with knowing more about the road system first, quite a few haven't even ridden a bicycle on the road as the taxi of Mum & Dad have taken them everywhere!
Thank you.. and you abolsulty right DVSA should change it so thy must do a Theory Test in conjuntion with the normal CBT it be much more beneficial to a new rider.
@Richard Mather true .some riding schools don't give a shit and rush through it, and not explaining things , they just want money ..that much is obvious when you been on a CBT for a long time and have to keep retaking it (the way they are with outer students I mean)
@@cyberjack I was a mature yet total novice at my recent CBT, had told the school I attended that I was beforehand, was ok initially with balance etc however my problem came with using the throttle, in my earpiece I was barked orders not to do this, or that with the throttle (which I didn't realise-being a novice!). There was no training or detailed instruction on how to use the throttle and brakes in combination before getting on the bike! so just had to guess. It became clear I was making a mess of it, but in reality they should have checked with me beforehand that I knew how and when to use, and not use, the controls such as the throttle on the motorbike, before taking the cash! I quit the day half way through as I didn't feel safe. I may try again in the future after doing some research - pity the school didn't tell me to do that first!
@@pauldunn81 yeah that's not your fault really , that's obviously a rubbish riding school . some are better than others clearly.. most schools do a free taster session , so you can get to know your teacher a bit better .. if you don't feel safe and comfortable then the school/teacher not for you .. don't hurt to shop around
Just a little tip to the guys out there, the guy at the beginning having trouble coming to a stop. The easiest way to avoid this, and it really is simple... Just make sure when you brake to a stop that the wheel and handlebars are straight. If you stop with the wheel turned or at an angle the bike's weight will be off center and you'll be caught off balance suddenly when you have to support it. Also another rookie mistake is to try and use your weight to move the bike, keep your inner thighs hugging the tank, you should be holding on with your legs more than your hands. Always lean in with the bike as you turn, don't cross up...
@@senpaibushido7911 some of us just have more common sense... so no, we havent all been exactly there... my first lesson with a driving instructor told me i was a natural and it felt like that too. Some people just cant do it naturally, or even with training.
I'm so glad I had the benefit of about 11 years driving before I decided to do my CBT! Knowing the basics really helps lol! Got my MOD 2 on the 14th of May. Feeling very confident :D
i found that riding a bicycle on the road for the months before doing my cbt helped me a lot. i was not overly distracted by cars pulling out and being in close proximity to me because i was used to it. it also improved my road sense quite a bit, i would highly recommend it
Cycling would be quite useful experience! Having some experience and knowledge of the road system will be helpful! Back in the day when they invented CBT majority of youngsters all rode push bikes and had used the road system before. These days most have never ridden a cycle on the roads. Been driven around by parents for 16+ years but some haven't even looked out the window much! White lines and road signs - what do they mean! One proposed change the DVSA are planning on making is getting folk to do a full Theory Test before CBT. In many ways probably a good idea, but will put some folk off. And some Questions are a tad obscure and how they score the Hazard Perception part is sometimes very weird.
@@martinadi6922 as someone who has had a full car license for a few years, would that mean I would have to do a theory test before a CBT if this change is made, currently looking into expanding my vehicle use to bikes on top of my car
@@jake-the-neko5531 Hi - don't have to do a bike Theory Test before a CBT. Have to know the road system and have some more options on a bike than in a car. More vulnerable on a bike than in a car! Must take care and good jobs and know where to position!
@@jake-the-neko5531 Hi - no you don't have to do a bike Theory Test before CBT. Only if doing a whole bike test! 4 stages for full licence! CBT, Theory, Mod 1, Mod 2.
On my first day, a woman driving a range rover reversed into a major road whilst I was going downhill at probably 35 mph, I was leading and there were lots of cars behind me, I panicked, instead of finding an escape route or simply just going around her leaving a big gap, and not even thinking that she wont just blindly reverse into the road. I decided to slow down and continue keeping focus on her... I am lucky I had a fantastic instructor, she shielded me from the cars rolling down hill behind me. I made a few other mistakes but this was the dangerous one.
I did a lot of these mistakes only today. It's all well and good to say "read the highway code" but for first timers like me and many others, hands and feet don't always do what the brain tells them when they're on the road, especially at roundabouts when panic can set in!!
hello. i just my cbt first time. and the things to remeber is 1,2 and 3 . with that i mean the position in the road. 1.is the left side of the road when turning left. 2. is the center/centre of the road.(always stay in center of road). position 3. is right side of road for turning right. when turning left do right mirror, left mirror, left shoulder, indicate left and then move to position 1 and always cancel the indicator after or when half way into the turn. and turning right is the same but go left mirror right mirror. right shoulder indicate right and move to position 3. also before you turn always do a lifesaver and after the turn move back to defensive position or position 2. hope this helps you.
+holdmybeer when turning left without stopping, it's best to keep to center/right so that you can see round the corner before turning. in my experience atleast. Same when going right, just keep to center/left
I was taking my CBT not too long ago. I didn't get to module E (on the road) since I had a bit of inconsistency with the motorcycle control. I dumped the clutch a few times (won't happen again) and so I didn't feel comfortable enough going onto the road and I wasn't ready. I'll be taking it again though to complete it. :) A lot of the mistakes in this video was ridiculous though XD
When I did my CBT (Not to slate these riders) but once I got a feeling for the bike I was riding (for example, Clutch control) I was absolutely fine but maybe that's because I was always interested in the way roads work and love bikes
+DNM That immediately puts you at an "Advantage" - I spent a lot of my teenage and young adult life cycling on roads. So I learned how to handle myself. I passed my CBT with no issues and I later passed my DAS with no minors.
I've been riding for 10 years now and during that time my lifesavers have gradually trickled off. The number of actual situations where they're relevant and useful is a tiny fraction of the total number you're 'supposed' to do them in. A lot of the time they're unnecessary and a distraction if you've been paying attention to your mirrors and the overall situation.
+boiledelephant Indeed - lifesavers are boring! There's never anyone in your blindspot, ah! until there is! Habits are good instead of deciding 'do I need to look now?', and when someone is in your blindspot, it will always be surprising. So, I'm glad I looked! It's not hard to look in the mirror and a quick turn of the head to check the parrot on your shoulder! And it might save your ass!
I generally ride between 5-8k a year and always do lifesavers. On average I think it's about once maybe twice a year I "save" my own life. Ride safe folks.😊
Exactly my thoughts on looking over the shoulder on a bus or 20 mph speed limits before coming to London , useless . Then I started working as a bus driver in London 😂 the amount of zombies crossing the road from your blind spot is scary or crackheads suddenly stepping on the road just in front of you without even looking towards the road beforehand . Useless in some parts of the world , absolutely necessary in others . Not doing a lifesaver on a Saturday evening near some pubs or clubs in London is a big risk
I been riding 30+ years now (shit that went quick, including aboard) and I would still recommend a lifesaver before every turn or change of direction.... Or at least keep a close check on what is following you in your mirrors, their driving behaviour and how close they are to you...The closer they are the less respect you will get from them usually...... You just never know and you never stop learning... I passed my test riding a trials style bike.. it had a better steering ark than a road bike.. I have my then girlfriend to thank for kicking my ass out of the warm bed on a wet drizzly Sunday morning to get to the test location about 12 miles away.... I am glad to see quite a few newcomers to biking even to this day..... Assume your invisible until you know cagers ( Cagers = 3-4+ wheeled transport) have seen you and you will not go far wrong.. There are advanced courses available too.. just to check you haven't adopted any bad riding habits over the years since passing the CBT.. Keep it between the kerbs and hedge rows folks...
Indeed! Glad you've had a fun 30 years riding! Knowing what's around you is indeed vital. The last 'mirror-look', called a lifesaver for a reason, is usually very 'boring'! "There's never anyone sitting in my blindspot!" True! But - Eeek! Until there is!! "Wow, thank god I checked as there was a ****** whizzing past me! That was a surprise, but my habit of looking, saved my ass!! Phew!!" No surprise - no accident. It is surprising when someone's in your blindspot that you hadn't already spotted, but checking before moving will let you be happily surprised rather than knocked off!! Habits are usually handy, don't need the 'mental strain' of deciding to look or not this time? I always look, and just very rarely the ***** whizzing by at an odd moment didn't then get me!! (not so rare in heavy city traffic of course, and it's not just cars who might be alongside, but could be cyclists or other bikers!) Plan for the possibility and the worst, hope for the best, and check.
Martin ADI: A few years ago me and some mates did our second road trip to Faro.. Folkestone, Calais, down through France via Mansell, Bordeaux then on into Spain via Seville.. Finally down to Portugal turn right.. One of our crowd had just past his test only a few weeks before the road trip.. he rode his mums Virago I think.. faultlessly.. The boy done very well.. but he was a super fit football nut.. As you may know? Long rides can take their toll on the forearms, cramp in the legs and back ache (the severity of which can depend on what you ride?) We encouraged regular stops every so often and better if it was a place of interest to wash up, grab a coffee or energy drink and wind down.. We all kept our eyes on the new comer but he had savvy.. was in no hurry to impress anyone and he wasn't impatient riding.. a natural.. it was heart warming to see.. I have just gone through a few years of not wanting anything to do with bikes at all and not really sure why? I kept the bikes of course and readied them for storage. Now I am getting keen again to ride.. The weather plays a big part in that too I think.. Regarding this some numb nuts maybe in your blind spot business.. I know roughly when they will appear there... it will usually be the one time you don't want to bother checking...:0)
I tried my CBT on Friday, went from knowing next to nothing about riding a motorcycle to being pretty decent in 2 hours and then had another 2 hours to show consistency while on the test track, got through all that without any issues and yet my instructor said "I don't think you're ready to be on the road just yet, call back for another session and we'll nail it". I was so disappointed, even more so now I've seen the quality of some riders in this video...
LastChanceGaming2011 Oh dear! Did your instructor explain the why and what aspects needed to be improved? Without proper feedback how do you know what's missing or what to work on? If they don't charge you extra then you've not 'lost' anything but I'd ask for some clear feedback.
Shows you know what your shouldn't be doing! ;) Some of the errors are fairly hilarious (as long as you survive!) - how can they get it so wrong? I do wonder! Anyway, have fun, and safe riding! :)
I've been driving for 4 or 5 years now and cycling on the road for 9 years and even now I am reading up before doing my CBT so I don't make simple mistakes, If I came across a rider like this during the times of his error he would of been in trouble.
I know this footage is old, and some of the rules and reg's may have change moderately, but thanks anyway, this has given me insight as II would like to do full test CBT & stages 1&2, as I'd like to get a 2009 Yamaha Vmax. A long term change and more fun!
How do you achieve basic machine control before you start your CBT? It’s really difficult to find opportunities to do this. That’s my biggest bugbear with CBT. My wife had such a steep learning hill to climb and bottled out twice. I need to get her on a bike off-road perhaps.
they teach you this on your CBT. You'll get a run down of the bike and how it works and they will have you go around a course in a parking lot a few times untill you start to get used to it
@@robertse4026 absolutely but my wife had never ridden a bike and she couldn’t be expected to pick it up in a couple of hours. Even I struggled having not ridden for thirty years!
I'd have no objection to filming on any CBTs I run. I guess if you're going to be able to identiffy anyone from the film it would be good to ask their permission first!
There is so much information out there these days with the internet and youtube so I don't think anyone really has much of an excuse for not doing a small bit of research before the CBT. Having said that, we all have to start somewhere and we were all learners once.
@@Chiefxyz Sadly sir you are wrong. Hopefully by the time you go for your theory and hazard perception test you will have read the highway code. I looked back through all the highway code editions to 1993 and the wording hasn't changed up to the latest edition of the highwaycode (17 Sept 23). The wording is as follows: Amber means ‘stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the Amber appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident. I am hoping you aren’t a DVSA approved instructor, if you are you should be embarrassed not knowing. If not, you now know what amber means. Heres to safer riding🙈🙉🙊🏍 You are welcome🤙🏻👌🏻👍🏻
4:00 my friend strayed over the lines on a roundabout and got not off by a van. He wasn't hurt luckily bug I'm always careful of lane position on roundabouts now.
I personally feel like we need to put more into CBT, and possibly integrating parts of the A1/A2 tests, primarily for the sake on the off chance that most if not some newbie riders won't know basics of the road. You also need to understand that theirs alot of mental preparation and stress behind these things, primarily due to the fact its not a big safe metal box, and one mistake can lead to life or death. Coming from a guy who passed his CBT a month ago and had a brown pants moment of taking a corner too quickly and veering into an empty oncoming lane.....still passed!
Hi Jack, we do send everyone a Highway Code quiz to get them to do some research about the road system before CBT. We often now have youngsters getting pushed onto mopeds by their parents who want to not have to give them lifts everywhere. If so, we send them more info about prep with their offspring. Back in 1990 when CBT was introduced by DVSA most youngsters had ridden bicycles to school for many years, and maybe done cycle proficiency. Many these days haven't ridden a push bike, but been driven everywhere by the taxi of mum & dad! We suggest they discuss the road system when they have them with them in their car. Also tell them a bit about O-S-M (p-s-l) and "No surprise, No accident" is a good concept. And there are only two things you can do with the word "if" - ask "what if?" or end up saying "if only!". Hee hee. And yes, one difference with cars is that you are more 'awake' on a motorbike as part of your head knows getting anything wrong will hurt! And the weather also has your attention.
Most riders on this video making these mistakes such as position, gear changing, balance etc are worried about failing their lesson and conscious of the instructor behind. The truth is you can never fail your CBT, anyone can do it. After 9 years of riding, I consider myself a very experienced and safe motorcyclist. But it takes 3 things (experience/age and learning). But riding a bike is probably the most enjoyable thing anyone can do, and the most affordable too.
Technically it's not a 'fail' you just haven't reached the required standard. But yes, some people have to come back again cos they are not safe to be let out on the roads. Most of the mistakes in the video are because of a lack of knowledge of the road system not cos I'm following them! ;)
Videos like this make me so nervous to do my CBT, Im going for a 125 in a few days and I have only been on the back of a bike once before and that was a few days ago, but i feel as though everything thats being said is just I know that im going to make so many mistakes
Hi - you can start practicing now! Look at the highway code, Try a practice Theory Test online at gov .uk Look at the cars & bikes on the road - where are they going? who's going to go first? why did they stop there? etc etc Two parts to being safe & completing CBT: can you control the bike? do you understand the basics of the road system? You don't need to be on a bike to work on the road system bit now! Have fun!
Yes your bicycle experience will help lots. Some 16yr olds are pushed onto mopeds by Mum & Dad taxi and haven't any road experience, so do struggle to stay safe and complete CBT.
Can you chose to do your theory on a a geared bike even if you have never riden on a moter bike at all? I dont want to ride a moped i want to learn geared bikes.
I guess you mean 'your CBT'! Don't need a bike for your Theory! :) Yes, you can do CBT on a geared or non-geared bike. Having completed it, you can ride a geared or non-geared bike. Have fun!
Hi - I guess that as long as you're just using it for educational purposes and not direct commercial ones, then I don't mind you using it. Hope its useful!
I don't think you really have to pay for tickets, if there isn't a bike bit, just stick it somewhere its not in anyones way (cars or pedestrians). Feel free to correct me if im wrong with that anyone
please tell me you made some of them come back for extra training. I've never seen such awful riding. I thought I was bad when I got my first moped 12 years ago but this is shocking!
I'm doing my CBT for the first time soon so I'm definitely nervous, but from watching this I'm not sure if these students are having their nerves get the better of them or if they've never even ridden a bicycle on the road! Stopping before turning off a road when there's no traffic blocking your path; going practically straight across a roundabout... What?! I don't ride my bicycle on the roads much but even I know you don't do that stuff. Either way: thanks for the upload as it's nice to see the mistakes that can be made on the road so I can try make the CBT easier on myself. :)
+Korsfestelse I think this is probably from some of the worst trainee's they've had. I'm going for my CBT as well very soon and I don't think I'll be nearly as bad. You'll be ok.
+vkotis Indeed, it's not one person riding that badly! A collection of 'moments' as you say. Most people do quite well, and especially if someone has risen a bicycle on the road that will help.
Hi - presumably you mean if you've done it on a 50cc moped? Yes, even if you do CBT on a twist-and-go moped you can ride that or anything up to 125cc after it, geared or not geared. (as long as you're 17+).
I drove 3h for my cbt went to McDonald’s and my only fault was not turning off indicators straight away which we later found out the bike sometimes even tho pressed didn’t cancel the indicators also pulled into station instead of McDonald’s haha
I rode a bike for the first time last week and failed because I cut over a roundabout Didn’t get up to speed Left indicators on alot Basically dangerous things however i was quite annoyed but the mistakes are things i would’ve expected to fail on but i did well on alot of things but had i been passed after the mistakes i’d of questioned the trainers IQ
Ok, can someone explain, what was the mistake, when he entered the road on the left on a one way road . I know at the end of the road , for a right turn he was supposed to be in the right lane.
@@martinadi6922 even if he missed the one way sign, surely he would have seen the markings on the road? There was no observation whatsoever, totally unaware of anything going on around him. I know it's daunting going out on the road for the 1st time but still, instinct kicks in. I'd never rode a geared machine in my life before my CBT but for me it was the only way to learn as my goal was to gain Cat A which I done and never looked back.
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Not quite. They appeared to be keeping to the speed limit.
@@PoisonousPen😂 I mean time is money
I always found that having passed my car driving test before hand that it was a hell of a lot easier.
Already knew the rules of the road and only had to worry about bike control and things like lifesavers.
Of course it is, if you have been on the road it will be. When i passed my big bike test and did my car test i didnt even need lessons because i was always so aware and safe from being on my bike, i found car driving was alot easier.
Opposite way round for me I could pass my driving theory test easier
Me too. I just passed my motorbike test a couple of days ago after having driven a car for 10 years so knowing what I need to do on the road was, for the most part, second nature. Luckily I had already some motorbike experience from when I was younger and just riding my Dad's bike around the house and on private property so I knew where the motorcycle controls were and what they were used for so that helped too. The slow speed maneuvers and the extra observations that are required on a motorcycle I had to learn and work on. I plan on continuing to practice my slow speed stuff even though I have finished my test and all now because they are useful skills to keep sharp for the day when you may need them.
I found learning on the bike made driving a car much easier. lol different folks
@Scoupe400 I learned to drive a car first, but rode a bike for 4 years before getting my first car.
Learning to drive first made knowing how to ride better (rules of the road etc) as I feel a CBT doesn't teach half of what you need to know.
But riding for years before actually driving has made me way more alert in a car than most other drivers. I think car drivers who have never ridden are too zoned out.
These sound effects are so cringey lol
+Kailem Gibbs Indeed! Seemed suitable for the standard of riding! :)
I know haha. Don' t know what goes some of these guys heads when they do these silly things
I actually found them funny plus went with the riding mistakes well.
The blue scooter rider was terrible - surprised they let him out for the road ride... plus thankfully it was a quiet Sunday!! Accident waiting to happen there!
i liked the sound effects! They reinforced the pluses and the negatives !
Glad I watched this I'll watch it over and over until it's drilled into me what I should, and should not do, then when I do my CBT I wont cause a heart attack for my instructor.
I was cracking up 😂 sorry know it’s serious as I passed my CBT today in howling gale force winds and torrential rain I thought I may have cocked up a few times this cheered me up ! , please listen to your instructors !!!!!
I crashed into a bush on my CBT and still passed :P
Compulsory Basic Training (CBT) - It's Training not a Test! First things first - Compulsory Basic Training (CBT) is not a test, it is a structured training course. It is not possible to fail the course. Most people will complete the training within a day.
Steven green yes you can fail, it is training not a test but you can fail, if you are a danger to others or yourself and don't show signs that you no what the rules of the road are then you fail, when I did my CBT the guy before me in the morning failed due to this and another had failed between me doing CBT and mod1 which was only a week, learn the highway code, go out with someone as a pillion or passenger in a car and get use to the rules of the road and you will be fine, if you already drive just brush up on your skills first it doesn't hurt and there's more at stake if you go wrong on a bike. when doing mod 2 as well the examiner was stricked with me as I already drove so just bare that in mind but best thing I've done and complete different way of life, good luck to you all, ride safe.
from an instructor - its a play on words really. strictly if you fail to complete training you come back to continue from where you left off. if you fail a test you have to retake the whole test *generally* i feel sometimes schools may use fails as perhaps a reason to charge extra over and above what they should
yea and i do pushups with no arms
@@stevengreen5038 my mate failed twice broke his leg, and sold his bike lol
Thank you so much, this is really really helpful! I'll watch it a few more times before my CBT!
i do find it surprising how fast a newbie is expected to learn .. I did my CBT and went from car park doing figure 8's and going round in a circles straight to road in one day ! i know that's only way to learn but i did find it a bit much to take in. ..We did learn about junctions, give way, lanes ..etc but was only "simulated" on car park .. and its a huge amount to remember (as well as looking out for other cars) when you actually on road, and its very different to a car park.. am shocked government chose this method to learn people to ride a bike for first time.. well the complexity of road sense to be more precise, riding part easy.. no wonder new riders get knocked off
There is indeed a lot to know and deal with. Back in the day, most folk cycled before getting a powered two wheeler, so knew stuff. And motorbikes were the transport of the working class to get to the factories, so Govt didn't want to make it too tricky to get going. And on a bike you do pay attention, cos you know it will hurt if you get it wrong! Easy for folk to switch off in a car and feel very protected and safe, yet can cause a huge amount of death and mayhem.
So, some historical reasons and some reality, is why CBT allows you to head out on the road as a learner. These days, most young folk could do with knowing more about the road system first, quite a few haven't even ridden a bicycle on the road as the taxi of Mum & Dad have taken them everywhere!
Thank you.. and you abolsulty right DVSA should change it so thy must do a Theory Test in conjuntion with the normal CBT it be much more beneficial to a new rider.
@Richard Mather true .some riding schools don't give a shit and rush through it, and not explaining things , they just want money ..that much is obvious when you been on a CBT for a long time and have to keep retaking it (the way they are with outer students I mean)
@@cyberjack I was a mature yet total novice at my recent CBT, had told the school I attended that I was beforehand, was ok initially with balance etc however my problem came with using the throttle, in my earpiece I was barked orders not to do this, or that with the throttle (which I didn't realise-being a novice!). There was no training or detailed instruction on how to use the throttle and brakes in combination before getting on the bike! so just had to guess. It became clear I was making a mess of it, but in reality they should have checked with me beforehand that I knew how and when to use, and not use, the controls such as the throttle on the motorbike, before taking the cash! I quit the day half way through as I didn't feel safe. I may try again in the future after doing some research - pity the school didn't tell me to do that first!
@@pauldunn81 yeah that's not your fault really , that's obviously a rubbish riding school . some are better than others clearly.. most schools do a free taster session , so you can get to know your teacher a bit better .. if you don't feel safe and comfortable then the school/teacher not for you .. don't hurt to shop around
Really enjoyed watching this- at points I was having a good giggle at the sound effects :)
Just a little tip to the guys out there, the guy at the beginning having trouble coming to a stop. The easiest way to avoid this, and it really is simple... Just make sure when you brake to a stop that the wheel and handlebars are straight. If you stop with the wheel turned or at an angle the bike's weight will be off center and you'll be caught off balance suddenly when you have to support it. Also another rookie mistake is to try and use your weight to move the bike, keep your inner thighs hugging the tank, you should be holding on with your legs more than your hands. Always lean in with the bike as you turn, don't cross up...
these people shouldnt be let out of their house unsupervised
Nice profile picture mate!
they are learners my friend - we have all been there... every single one of us
@@senpaibushido7911 some of us just have more common sense... so no, we havent all been exactly there... my first lesson with a driving instructor told me i was a natural and it felt like that too. Some people just cant do it naturally, or even with training.
Doing my CBT next week. Driven a car for 30+ years still learnt somethings from this video, thanks.
Good luck buddy just passed mine today with no road experience
@@Taylor-uq1ce I only bloody passed it
@@nodrog051 well done lad 👍🏼
This is great. I take for granted these little things I do sometimes. Biker of over 6 years... Will never forget my scary cbt. x
Well done - good to reflect on what you do and how far you've progressed! Hope the CBT wasn't TOO scary! :)
I'm so glad I had the benefit of about 11 years driving before I decided to do my CBT! Knowing the basics really helps lol! Got my MOD 2 on the 14th of May. Feeling very confident :D
Please take care though. Confidence can come before a fall. I am noticing that becoming relaxed is helping me ride better. Go well!
i found that riding a bicycle on the road for the months before doing my cbt helped me a lot. i was not overly distracted by cars pulling out and being in close proximity to me because i was used to it. it also improved my road sense quite a bit, i would highly recommend it
Cycling would be quite useful experience! Having some experience and knowledge of the road system will be helpful! Back in the day when they invented CBT majority of youngsters all rode push bikes and had used the road system before. These days most have never ridden a cycle on the roads. Been driven around by parents for 16+ years but some haven't even looked out the window much! White lines and road signs - what do they mean! One proposed change the DVSA are planning on making is getting folk to do a full Theory Test before CBT. In many ways probably a good idea, but will put some folk off. And some Questions are a tad obscure and how they score the Hazard Perception part is sometimes very weird.
@@martinadi6922 as someone who has had a full car license for a few years, would that mean I would have to do a theory test before a CBT if this change is made, currently looking into expanding my vehicle use to bikes on top of my car
@@jake-the-neko5531 Hi - no you don't have to do a Theory test before a CBT. Only a Theory if doing a full bike riding test with DVLA.
@@jake-the-neko5531 Hi - don't have to do a bike Theory Test before a CBT. Have to know the road system and have some more options on a bike than in a car. More vulnerable on a bike than in a car! Must take care and good jobs and know where to position!
@@jake-the-neko5531 Hi - no you don't have to do a bike Theory Test before CBT. Only if doing a whole bike test! 4 stages for full licence! CBT, Theory, Mod 1, Mod 2.
2:15 lol 😂😂😂😂😂 bro I literally thought my mum was calling me because I have that as my ringtone🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Im taking my CBT soon and I am so glad that I watched this video as I now know what not to do!
Really useful video , thanks for uploading!
The sound effects hahaha, I like the roundabout analogy too =P
But that last one... VERY lucky it was a quiet day.
On my first day, a woman driving a range rover reversed into a major road whilst I was going downhill at probably 35 mph, I was leading and there were lots of cars behind me, I panicked, instead of finding an escape route or simply just going around her leaving a big gap, and not even thinking that she wont just blindly reverse into the road. I decided to slow down and continue keeping focus on her... I am lucky I had a fantastic instructor, she shielded me from the cars rolling down hill behind me. I made a few other mistakes but this was the dangerous one.
Your videos have made me kinda understand what I'm doing
this was very informative.thankyou
This is a good video, simple things catch people out
That guy on the moped was horrible
Pretty much every CBT rider is. That's what CBTs are for :P
good video:) Helps those who wish to get on the road!
I did a lot of these mistakes only today. It's all well and good to say "read the highway code" but for first timers like me and many others, hands and feet don't always do what the brain tells them when they're on the road, especially at roundabouts when panic can set in!!
Informative video!
Thank you for a speedy reply :-)
I wonder if the time will come when I think driving a car is a crazy idea, and not the other way round.
Very informative
I've done 5 cbts and you feel proper sorry for the newbies when following along with the instructor going nuts at someone! 😄❤️😎👍
hello. i just my cbt first time. and the things to remeber is 1,2 and 3 . with that i mean the position in the road. 1.is the left side of the road when turning left. 2. is the center/centre of the road.(always stay in center of road).
position 3. is right side of road for turning right. when turning left do right mirror, left mirror, left shoulder, indicate left and then move to position 1 and always cancel the indicator after or when half way into the turn. and turning right is the same but go left mirror right mirror. right shoulder indicate right and move to position 3.
also before you turn always do a lifesaver and after the turn move back to defensive position or position 2.
hope this helps you.
+holdmybeer when turning left without stopping, it's best to keep to center/right so that you can see round the corner before turning. in my experience atleast. Same when going right, just keep to center/left
I was taking my CBT not too long ago. I didn't get to module E (on the road) since I had a bit of inconsistency with the motorcycle control. I dumped the clutch a few times (won't happen again) and so I didn't feel comfortable enough going onto the road and I wasn't ready. I'll be taking it again though to complete it. :) A lot of the mistakes in this video was ridiculous though XD
When I did my CBT (Not to slate these riders) but once I got a feeling for the bike I was riding (for example, Clutch control) I was absolutely fine but maybe that's because I was always interested in the way roads work and love bikes
+DNM That immediately puts you at an "Advantage" - I spent a lot of my teenage and young adult life cycling on roads. So I learned how to handle myself. I passed my CBT with no issues and I later passed my DAS with no minors.
Funny video like the sound effects lol
You're easily amused...
I like the sound effects haha :-)
Very important video as sometimes the simplest of mistakes cause the most harm
those sound effects got me haha
Passed my test nearly 5 years ago via direct access and this video still gives me anxiety! Good luck to all the participants
Useful video - thanks
On my cbt I turned into the wrong side of the road and had to swerve between two cars, but because of how I handled the situation I PASSED.
I really hope i'm not like this. But time will tell. Thank you for the video i will be doing my CBT test next month.
This has made me fear my CBT now 😩😂
good video,I am thinking of doing my bike test,been driving now for 12years and looking forward to a change...
I've been riding for 10 years now and during that time my lifesavers have gradually trickled off. The number of actual situations where they're relevant and useful is a tiny fraction of the total number you're 'supposed' to do them in. A lot of the time they're unnecessary and a distraction if you've been paying attention to your mirrors and the overall situation.
+boiledelephant Indeed - lifesavers are boring! There's never anyone in your blindspot, ah! until there is! Habits are good instead of deciding 'do I need to look now?', and when someone is in your blindspot, it will always be surprising. So, I'm glad I looked! It's not hard to look in the mirror and a quick turn of the head to check the parrot on your shoulder! And it might save your ass!
I generally ride between 5-8k a year and always do lifesavers. On average I think it's about once maybe twice a year I "save" my own life. Ride safe folks.😊
Exactly my thoughts on looking over the shoulder on a bus or 20 mph speed limits before coming to London , useless . Then I started working as a bus driver in London 😂 the amount of zombies crossing the road from your blind spot is scary or crackheads suddenly stepping on the road just in front of you without even looking towards the road beforehand . Useless in some parts of the world , absolutely necessary in others . Not doing a lifesaver on a Saturday evening near some pubs or clubs in London is a big risk
I been riding 30+ years now (shit that went quick, including aboard) and I would still recommend a lifesaver before every turn or change of direction.... Or at least keep a close check on what is following you in your mirrors, their driving behaviour and how close they are to you...The closer they are the less respect you will get from them usually...... You just never know and you never stop learning... I passed my test riding a trials style bike.. it had a better steering ark than a road bike.. I have my then girlfriend to thank for kicking my ass out of the warm bed on a wet drizzly Sunday morning to get to the test location about 12 miles away.... I am glad to see quite a few newcomers to biking even to this day..... Assume your invisible until you know cagers ( Cagers = 3-4+ wheeled transport) have seen you and you will not go far wrong.. There are advanced courses available too.. just to check you haven't adopted any bad riding habits over the years since passing the CBT.. Keep it between the kerbs and hedge rows folks...
Indeed! Glad you've had a fun 30 years riding!
Knowing what's around you is indeed vital. The last 'mirror-look', called a lifesaver for a reason, is usually very 'boring'! "There's never anyone sitting in my blindspot!" True! But - Eeek! Until there is!! "Wow, thank god I checked as there was a ****** whizzing past me! That was a surprise, but my habit of looking, saved my ass!! Phew!!" No surprise - no accident.
It is surprising when someone's in your blindspot that you hadn't already spotted, but checking before moving will let you be happily surprised rather than knocked off!! Habits are usually handy, don't need the 'mental strain' of deciding to look or not this time? I always look, and just very rarely the ***** whizzing by at an odd moment didn't then get me!! (not so rare in heavy city traffic of course, and it's not just cars who might be alongside, but could be cyclists or other bikers!)
Plan for the possibility and the worst, hope for the best, and check.
Martin ADI: A few years ago me and some mates did our second road trip to Faro.. Folkestone, Calais, down through France via Mansell, Bordeaux then on into Spain via Seville.. Finally down to Portugal turn right.. One of our crowd had just past his test only a few weeks before the road trip.. he rode his mums Virago I think.. faultlessly.. The boy done very well.. but he was a super fit football nut.. As you may know? Long rides can take their toll on the forearms, cramp in the legs and back ache (the severity of which can depend on what you ride?) We encouraged regular stops every so often and better if it was a place of interest to wash up, grab a coffee or energy drink and wind down.. We all kept our eyes on the new comer but he had savvy.. was in no hurry to impress anyone and he wasn't impatient riding.. a natural.. it was heart warming to see.. I have just gone through a few years of not wanting anything to do with bikes at all and not really sure why? I kept the bikes of course and readied them for storage. Now I am getting keen again to ride.. The weather plays a big part in that too I think.. Regarding this some numb nuts maybe in your blind spot business.. I know roughly when they will appear there... it will usually be the one time you don't want to bother checking...:0)
I'm glad they included the music....
I tried my CBT on Friday, went from knowing next to nothing about riding a motorcycle to being pretty decent in 2 hours and then had another 2 hours to show consistency while on the test track, got through all that without any issues and yet my instructor said "I don't think you're ready to be on the road just yet, call back for another session and we'll nail it". I was so disappointed, even more so now I've seen the quality of some riders in this video...
LastChanceGaming2011 Oh dear! Did your instructor explain the why and what aspects needed to be improved? Without proper feedback how do you know what's missing or what to work on? If they don't charge you extra then you've not 'lost' anything but I'd ask for some clear feedback.
This now makes me worried to do my CBT which I will be doing in 2 months time. :/ do you get shown the high way code basics are shall I buy a book?
Watched this so many times now, even after passing my CBT I still enjoy the video, odd eh? :P
Shows you know what your shouldn't be doing! ;)
Some of the errors are fairly hilarious (as long as you survive!) - how can they get it so wrong? I do wonder! Anyway, have fun, and safe riding! :)
I thought I screwed up on my first time but nowhere near as bad as this! Feeling a bit more confident for this weekend when I try again now :-)
Ahh well least he enjoyed his self and almost got a love tap
I have my a2 soon and this helps even thought its for cbt
Looking at the helmet cam. Trainee wasn’t the only one who didn’t do any lifesavers.
I've been driving for 4 or 5 years now and cycling on the road for 9 years and even now I am reading up before doing my CBT so I don't make simple mistakes, If I came across a rider like this during the times of his error he would of been in trouble.
Very helpful, got few months left before i take my CBT and hopefully i will do better then this guy. :)
Riding a peddle bike for years surely gave me the road sence before doing my cbt, thankfully my cbt wasn't anything near as bad as this 😂
I don't get the one way road bit. All the arrows were pointing forward, isn't he allowed on that road?
Where was he at the end when turning right?
I was really socked about how the pizza is delivered.
The patience needed…
I know this footage is old, and some of the rules and reg's may have change moderately, but thanks anyway, this has given me insight as II would like to do full test CBT & stages 1&2, as I'd like to get a 2009 Yamaha Vmax. A long term change and more fun!
on my 125cc exam, i dropped the clutch too hard while throttling... did an accidental small wheelie while my butt slided all the way back. passed lmao
Good vid that.. i'm an instructor too. This is about our day in a nutshell on cbt!! das is much easier eh lol
I hope I wasn't like this on my CBT hahaha. And did you use Logic Pro 9s loops for this?
No, iMovie mostly. Glad you enjoyed it.
How do you achieve basic machine control before you start your CBT? It’s really difficult to find opportunities to do this. That’s my biggest bugbear with CBT. My wife had such a steep learning hill to climb and bottled out twice. I need to get her on a bike off-road perhaps.
they teach you this on your CBT. You'll get a run down of the bike and how it works and they will have you go around a course in a parking lot a few times untill you start to get used to it
@@robertse4026 absolutely but my wife had never ridden a bike and she couldn’t be expected to pick it up in a couple of hours. Even I struggled having not ridden for thirty years!
Cheers, good video. In your opinion would someone be allowed to wear a properly secured helmet camera (no mic cable etc) during their CBT?
I'd have no objection to filming on any CBTs I run. I guess if you're going to be able to identiffy anyone from the film it would be good to ask their permission first!
Thanks for the feedback :)
There is so much information out there these days with the internet and youtube so I don't think anyone really has much of an excuse for not doing a small bit of research before the CBT. Having said that, we all have to start somewhere and we were all learners once.
luckily for me I passed my CBT first try
As an instructor you should know that an amber light means stop, and you rode through an amber light.
Amber does not mean stop, it means prepare to stop (in case you are too far)
@@Chiefxyz Sadly sir you are wrong. Hopefully by the time you go for your theory and hazard perception test you will have read the highway code. I looked back through all the highway code editions to 1993 and the wording hasn't changed up to the latest edition of the highwaycode (17 Sept 23). The wording is as follows: Amber means ‘stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the Amber appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident.
I am hoping you aren’t a DVSA approved instructor, if you are you should be embarrassed not knowing. If not, you now know what amber means. Heres to safer riding🙈🙉🙊🏍
You are welcome🤙🏻👌🏻👍🏻
Those scooters make some funny old noises dont they, LOL
man i miss my vanvan
did they end up failing?
that last bloke is a knob fair play
4:00 my friend strayed over the lines on a roundabout and got not off by a van. He wasn't hurt luckily bug I'm always careful of lane position on roundabouts now.
I think I'd quite enjoy being an instructor! Especially for CBTs :D
+VtwinVlogster It's quite fun most of the time, and very rewarding, but there's no shortage of surprises! :)
No doubt, I don't think I've been riding long enough to qualify though. License is free of endorsement so far, so that's a good start :D
I personally feel like we need to put more into CBT, and possibly integrating parts of the A1/A2 tests, primarily for the sake on the off chance that most if not some newbie riders won't know basics of the road. You also need to understand that theirs alot of mental preparation and stress behind these things, primarily due to the fact its not a big safe metal box, and one mistake can lead to life or death.
Coming from a guy who passed his CBT a month ago and had a brown pants moment of taking a corner too quickly and veering into an empty oncoming lane.....still passed!
Hi Jack, we do send everyone a Highway Code quiz to get them to do some research about the road system before CBT. We often now have youngsters getting pushed onto mopeds by their parents who want to not have to give them lifts everywhere. If so, we send them more info about prep with their offspring. Back in 1990 when CBT was introduced by DVSA most youngsters had ridden bicycles to school for many years, and maybe done cycle proficiency. Many these days haven't ridden a push bike, but been driven everywhere by the taxi of mum & dad! We suggest they discuss the road system when they have them with them in their car. Also tell them a bit about O-S-M (p-s-l) and "No surprise, No accident" is a good concept. And there are only two things you can do with the word "if" - ask "what if?" or end up saying "if only!". Hee hee.
And yes, one difference with cars is that you are more 'awake' on a motorbike as part of your head knows getting anything wrong will hurt! And the weather also has your attention.
Most riders on this video making these mistakes such as position, gear changing, balance etc are worried about failing their lesson and conscious of the instructor behind. The truth is you can never fail your CBT, anyone can do it. After 9 years of riding, I consider myself a very experienced and safe motorcyclist. But it takes 3 things (experience/age and learning). But riding a bike is probably the most enjoyable thing anyone can do, and the most affordable too.
Technically it's not a 'fail' you just haven't reached the required standard. But yes, some people have to come back again cos they are not safe to be let out on the roads.
Most of the mistakes in the video are because of a lack of knowledge of the road system not cos I'm following them! ;)
I'm always surprised to see people who clearly have not observed the simple rules of the road before taking a CBT.
Confessions of a bike Instructor. We could write a book :-) Its still the best job though ......
Indeed! (except when it's lashing down!). "Born to ride forced to work!" Hang on, my work is riding! Yippee!
Some people need to stay indoors 😂
Blimey!!!!
Videos like this make me so nervous to do my CBT, Im going for a 125 in a few days and I have only been on the back of a bike once before and that was a few days ago, but i feel as though everything thats being said is just I know that im going to make so many mistakes
Hi - you can start practicing now! Look at the highway code, Try a practice Theory Test online at gov .uk Look at the cars & bikes on the road - where are they going? who's going to go first? why did they stop there? etc etc Two parts to being safe & completing CBT: can you control the bike? do you understand the basics of the road system? You don't need to be on a bike to work on the road system bit now! Have fun!
i cycle and i’m looking to do a cbt and even i know these things
Yes your bicycle experience will help lots. Some 16yr olds are pushed onto mopeds by Mum & Dad taxi and haven't any road experience, so do struggle to stay safe and complete CBT.
Can you chose to do your theory on a a geared bike even if you have never riden on a moter bike at all? I dont want to ride a moped i want to learn geared bikes.
I guess you mean 'your CBT'! Don't need a bike for your Theory! :)
Yes, you can do CBT on a geared or non-geared bike. Having completed it, you can ride a geared or non-geared bike. Have fun!
I have passed my CBT and my car licence and stuff like this makes me nervous becasue i could end up doing something really stupid.
if you fail just try agin when people say ive crashed while doing my cbt the ent cuz if they have instant fail
A mandatory course of highway code must be implemented in a college or a DSA office would be ideal.
Martin I would like to use your video as a training tool. Could you please let me know how much it would cost to purchase the video. Thank you
+Kenny Brookes Tracey O'Brien Hello - to be honest I've no idea. What situation do you want to use it for? Have you any idea?
We are DVSA Approved Motorcycle Instructors who would like to use the video before inroad CBT rides.
Hi - I guess that as long as you're just using it for educational purposes and not direct commercial ones, then I don't mind you using it. Hope its useful!
I'm a little unsure of parking, where do I park and where do I put my ticket etc? Any info is helpful thanks
I don't think you really have to pay for tickets, if there isn't a bike bit, just stick it somewhere its not in anyones way (cars or pedestrians). Feel free to correct me if im wrong with that anyone
DEATHbyCAI ok thank you
Not exactly sure what was wrong with his turn into the 1 way road at around 2:30?
Nothing at all, except he'd not noticed the signs and markings so didn't know it was a 1 way road. :)
Barrow and Ulverston!
Imagine a learner making mistakes? Jesus that's nuts! If I were an instructor, I'd post a video with shitty effects on it too!
please tell me you made some of them come back for extra training. I've never seen such awful riding. I thought I was bad when I got my first moped 12 years ago but this is shocking!
I'm doing my CBT for the first time soon so I'm definitely nervous, but from watching this I'm not sure if these students are having their nerves get the better of them or if they've never even ridden a bicycle on the road! Stopping before turning off a road when there's no traffic blocking your path; going practically straight across a roundabout... What?! I don't ride my bicycle on the roads much but even I know you don't do that stuff.
Either way: thanks for the upload as it's nice to see the mistakes that can be made on the road so I can try make the CBT easier on myself. :)
+Korsfestelse I think this is probably from some of the worst trainee's they've had. I'm going for my CBT as well very soon and I don't think I'll be nearly as bad. You'll be ok.
+vkotis Indeed, it's not one person riding that badly! A collection of 'moments' as you say. Most people do quite well, and especially if someone has risen a bicycle on the road that will help.
It's a hell of a lot for a beginner to take in.
I'd recommend someone with no driving experience to do a lot of cycling beforehand.
I'm doing my cbt soon but I have one question can I ride a 125 geared bike when I have done my cbt
Hi - presumably you mean if you've done it on a 50cc moped? Yes, even if you do CBT on a twist-and-go moped you can ride that or anything up to 125cc after it, geared or not geared. (as long as you're 17+).
+Real Rider ok thanks and in 17 and have seen all of my mates ride geared 125 bike with a cbt lol
I drove 3h for my cbt went to McDonald’s and my only fault was not turning off indicators straight away which we later found out the bike sometimes even tho pressed didn’t cancel the indicators also pulled into station instead of McDonald’s haha
if that was the same rider id be thinking about taking him back to the centre. read the highway code, come back on another day for the ride. foool
I rode a bike for the first time last week and failed because
I cut over a roundabout
Didn’t get up to speed
Left indicators on alot
Basically dangerous things however i was quite annoyed but the mistakes are things i would’ve expected to fail on but i did well on alot of things but had i been passed after the mistakes i’d of questioned the trainers IQ
Ok, can someone explain, what was the mistake, when he entered the road on the left on a one way road . I know at the end of the road , for a right turn he was supposed to be in the right lane.
As he entered the 1 way road he didn't see the signs and markings, so didn't know it was. Several handy clues. His position going in was ok.
@@martinadi6922 even if he missed the one way sign, surely he would have seen the markings on the road? There was no observation whatsoever, totally unaware of anything going on around him. I know it's daunting going out on the road for the 1st time but still, instinct kicks in. I'd never rode a geared machine in my life before my CBT but for me it was the only way to learn as my goal was to gain Cat A which I done and never looked back.
That's crazy...