Movement Teacher Reacts To Functional Patterns - Does it Work? [REACTION]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2021
- In this video I'm reacting to the @functionalpatterns method by Naudi Aguilar, is it really working or is it just another gimmick?
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Agree that FP has some very good stuff, but community is like cult, they think that FP is universal and only solution for every body problem.
Don't know them a lot but it reminds me of movement training a lot :)
Would have to judge for myself tbh, do you speak from experience with them?
@@thegroundedman2191 I started following FP and Naudi few years ago, I am a member of few FP groups on social networks and tried FP online course.
@@BREx1000 Got it, thanks for the feedback :)
I agree!!! But my reality is that most of the people I train are in that kind of shape to begin with. I have to get people up to a certain level before they can even begin to dive into more traditional movement training. So I think that this would probably be a good program to get people to a certain level, then it’s up to them to decide to use it or lose it. Sorry for the long message, hope you’re having a good summer!
Agreed. Thanks brother :)
Hey man! Great video - I think you've made some good points. I started the 10 week course and have been doing review videos to understand FP more. As you are asking here, is it just a gimmick...? To answer that question you'd have to study the concepts and the coaching philosophy more. I think the reason it comes across like a cult is because inherently the fitness industry will consume and regurgitate everything and corrupt a philosophy to generate money. So FP is protecting its intellectual property so that those who study it can benefit the most and keep the work focused on results. I hope that makes sense but stop by my channel and see how my stance on it has shifted.
Thanks for the insights, definitely will
What does it mean to be functional? It's easy. You can do straightening with 100kg, 150kg, but if you have to give this weight to someone at the level of your head, how do you do that? which you can control up there. so the weight you can lift from the dead lift position you have to be able to lift to head level, that means to be functional.
I sit and watch only videos where I see only discussions about functional training for daily activities in which the back must be "locked in a safe position" there is no such thing in real life in an emergency under stress, I have another theory about this training with moderate weights in "incorrect positions" just to prepare the spine for such unexpected shocks
Hey, great video! Any update on trying it out?
would be cool to see you do their 10 week course then respond
Definitely, I actually bought it with my brother and none of us finished it yet lol, the fact that you have to wait a week between each level is pretty annoying imo
Naudi is showing some of Sonnon's Circular Strength Training exercises. He studied with him, along with Gary Gray and Paul Check.
He’s against any kind of stretching and yoga lol he is God 😂
I guess you have to do "movnat erwan le corre" next
lol ok
And Animal Flow
@@ThePortlandsocrates and GMB
@@moredatesmorefiber3526 good call…I know them well.
@@ThePortlandsocrates how do you know them?
Some of there shit sounds good but jumping around with weights even if light not a good idea.
What does it mean to be functional? It's easy. You can do deadlift with 100kg, 150kg, but if you have to give this weight to someone at the level of your head, how do you do that? which you can control up there. so the weight you can lift from the dead lift position you have to be able to lift to head level, that means to be functional.

For what it’s worth, I went from traditional strength and conditioning to “movement” training, Ido Portal’s school, GMB, etc and my body became way more mobile and I “felt” a lot better, until I started to feel worse. My martial arts training partner introduced me to FP, and I was mixing it with everything else for about 6 months, until I realized that I was working at cross-purposes and eventually swallowed the bitter “functionality” pill. I only train FP now, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. People can call it a cult or whatever they want, and I don’t want to get into all that. What I would say is that it’s a highly disruptive technology and that it will still take some time for the mainstream to catch up to what is actually going on with it.
Thanks for sharing Abram! I definitely get you, although my experience has been different with movement training, mainly from being able to create a more personal training program, so I don't have pains or anything tbh.
Still - FP is super interesting and I've heard that story a few times by now.
Do you feel fulfilled by training just with FP? It seems too functional to me and without any play.
@@thegroundedman2191 That’s a great question, and I could probably write a whole essay in response. Most people come to FP because they are in pain and nothing else is working. These people range from elderly to young, and from high level athletes to wheelchair bound. Just like with any movement practice there are lots of different progressions. FP focuses on the big four, standing, walking, running, and throwing. The basic principle is that you don’t do cartwheels and backflips until you address those four realities adequately. The question is what does it mean to address those things adequately? That’s difficult to answer. Even though I’m not in pain anymore, I don’t mess around with hand balancing, gymnastic rings, and other exercises that seem to only create compression and degeneration on my tissues. The deeper reason i don’t do this is because the more precise I get into FP protocols the more I feel like my body is regenerating and reversing the aging process, and this feels like the wise direction to go. I could be deluding myself with a lack of objectivity, but I use far more metrics to accurately measure my progress than I used to when I trained in other paradigms. As far as play goes, I guess that would depend on how you define play. I think if you dig deeper into the movement protocols in FP you’ll find that a lot of the exercises are really fun. I wish you the best of luck on your path.
@@abramizaackaplan6723 Great answer my man, really appreciate you.
FP sounds super interesting for me as a tool to be able to do other things with, not as the target.
But I completely get your pov and it makes sense.
All the best!
I've done a considerable amount of GMB's system. I've also worked with a FP practitioner (one of Naudi's original guys from Seattle). I am also a competitive martial artist, for what it's worth.
I had some serious injuries and issues, all of which GMB's systems helped me address and alleviate. It was pretty awesome actually, and the empirical nature of things made me a huge proponent of what they do.
My experience with FP was less than stellar. We worked on shoulder strengthening, mobility, and articulation. The specific posture they had me working from as a baseline felt too artificial and constrained. I felt there was too much scapular elevation. I didn't particularly enjoy it, and it didn't feel super effective. Although, I think a modified version of it would be pretty good. This was at the old heardquarters in Seattle.
To be more specific, it was a kind of rotation and counter rotation with a weighted cable pull. Very similar, but more rigid, to Yuri Marmerstein's band methods. I really like Yuri's band series, and it's economically viable for everyone in the general population.
The FP practitioner also did a bit of what he considered "myofascial release" on my quadriceps. This was an important element of my negative experience with them, because of their prices.
This individual clearly had NO PROFESSIONAL TRAINING with regards to deep tissue massaging and fascial work. Even if they understood the theory and concepts, they were unable to produce the effective results that one would find, when working with a actual professional with experience in say, Rolfing, or any other method of myofascial release.
The FP coach simply... "dropped an elbow" on the quadricep and used the tip of the elbow to move around a "knot" or "trigger-point" in a very ineffective way. I could have done better with a self-massage with my Rogue Supernova or lacrosse ball.
This is not an argument that FP is ineffective, because their practitioners are NOT trained experts at tissue work. But what I think is that they shouldn't even try to do tissue work if they don't understand it at a high-level. I don't expect my martial arts coaches to do tissue work either, even though both disciplines focus on training and working with the body.
So - what about FP more generally? I think they have some pretty cool protocols, and as a system, there's gotta be a lot of good stuff. I would love to learn more one day, but I won't pay an arm and a leg and join a cult-like group to learn what they know. I have an incredible amount of experience with skilled bodyworkers, internal martial arts, and even more esoteric practices from China, India, and Tibet that are psychophysical in nature.
There is nothing novel under the sun. It seems that FP has found some effective methods and packaged them together; integrated them into a coherent system. We can call that novel, to be fair, but the methods themselves have already existed on this earth. A human being can learn to understand the same principles and develop their own, more personalized approach to training that includes the best aspects of FP and any other training system in the world.
Functional Patterns has some good principles, encouraging moving over focusing on just training muscles. However, the vilification of traditional S&C practice and Naudi's understanding (or lack thereof) of the mechanisms for adaptation and his disdain for peer reviewed evidence is a red flag for me.
FP is cult like is it's adherence to the word of Naudi and seems to think FP is a panacea or vastly superior to all other methods of training, which goes against the research. Also to my knowledge you have to sign a NDA on signing up for the online program which again is a serious red flag.
With all the years he proclaims to have been working with clients refining his knowledge of A&P and biomechanics Naudi would have a lot more credibility if he released papers for review of his practice if he wants to substantiate his claims.
He definitely talks the talk when it comes to sounding good to the average gym goer or novice to training, and they may well get results they want, but the whole FP system is unscientific, protectionist (despite Naudi claiming to try to change and enlighten an admittedly flawed industry) and offers no more than most other methods of training.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I do agree that keeping it in and not opening it up just causes harm and creates red flags for most people, and it does remind me of cult behavior.
I sit and watch only videos where I see only discussions about functional training for daily activities in which the back must be "locked in a safe position" there is no such thing in real life in an emergency under stress, I have another theory about this training with moderate weights in "incorrect positions" just to prepare the spine for such unexpected shocksI sit and watch only videos where I see only discussions about functional training for daily activities in which the back must be "locked in a safe position" there is no such thing in real life in an emergency under stress, I have another theory about this training with moderate weights in "incorrect positions" just to prepare the spine for such unexpected shocksI sit and watch only videos where I see only discussions about functional training for daily activities in which the back must be "locked in a safe position" there is no such thing in real life in an emergency under stress, I have another theory about this training with moderate weights in "incorrect positions" just to prepare the spine for such unexpected shocks
Naudi has that personality because people should be respected until proven stupid, and many people do that right out of the door. If they don’t address imbalances they are kicking the can down the road like he said in the video and showing their ignorance.
Naudi has that personality because he has a personality disorder.
Naudi Aguilar ain't perfect and has faults and flaws of his own. His system does resonate with me. His fanatic followers are more insufferable. Certainly better than Joshua Fabia.
Many great people have flaws, happy to hear it resonates with you - do you practice it regularly?