Maybe my favorite VG villain of all time. A fascinating study of a once good woman driven to mad extremes by the sheer crushing weight of a mad, extreme, almost unbearable set of circumstances. And her voice actress is AMAZING.
Plus that added so easily missed dialogue of her ALMOST talking herself out of it, only for her Sword to spin her thoughts back towards violence and death…so good.
This is in all seriousness my favorite boss from the entire series, bar none. I know DAII gets a lot of flak (most of it undeserved imo), but how anyone can say this is not an awesome final boss is beyond me.
I love the DA series but Bioware is incapable to make good boss fights. This is the "best"? -Fight with the boss for 20 seconds. -Then she summons some pointless minions while she is invincible, because that is good. A boss fight is the best when you don't actually fight the boss. -Then she comes back again so you can hit her some more. -Then she goes away again and you can fight more pointless mobs, just like you did throughout the entire game. -Rinse and repeat. Sorry but this is shit. I'd rather have a desperate battle against the Boss and the minions simultaneously(like in Golems of Amgarrak where your build is truly tested) than this. Of course that is also unfair and can be infuriating, but still better than this. Same with inquisition where your character can be so unbalanced that you can kill the boss within 5 seconds. But at least you achieved that through knowing the game. In DA2 it does not matter how weak or strong you are, because every fight is the same.
@@ZRoberto399 I found her hard. I play on Nightmare mode though, all the time, with friendly fire. This video looks like the user didn't enable friendly fire? Made me think more critically of my choices.
@@ZRoberto399 Play on nightmare maybe? It's also funny how you point finger at this and Inquisition while everyone knows DAO is the easiest game of the series.
It's just so much lore in here. Templars CAN'T do magic. At all. They are templars. Their powers vain magic cabilities. The more lyrium in them, the more is that nullification aura strenghtens. She is getting her power from an "old god". Meaning that lyrium being alive, was corrupted by a dark gods blood, like how darkspawn and people are being corrupted by it. Meaning that there was 1 original corrupt god, who changed somehow, and his blood is corrupting other old gods who escaped the fade, !who corrupt the living, the lyrium and everything else. Whats more interesting is, that this was not the first case. As red lyrium is pre-second sin thing, meaning that it existed before darkspawn. It existed long before it from an old gods blood. So much lore!
@@Kareszkoma the first old god corrupted was Andruil, she went in a hunt for an forgotten one and came back in full crazy mode. I'm really want DA4 to have some of the forgotten ones.
Oh fuck, I've been searching for ages for a clip of this battle that has all three of her stun dialog interludes in it. Everyone always kills her before she has a chance to say them, or avoids the AoE attack.
Meredith lost it, her mind was poisoned by the Idol, just like Bartrand. She thinks that she’s immune to the Idol, but she’s not. The whole thing regarding who started it? Meredith, the Idol or Anders? Meredith purchased the idol and fashioned it into a sword, Orsino knew the necromancer who killed Leandra and kept quiet about it. The idol fed Meredith illusions and paranoia of blood magic. Anders persuaded Hawke to help him under the guise of separating Justice from Anders. If Anders hadn’t done it, do you think the Grand Cleric would suggest a peaceful solution for Meredith and Orsino’s feud?
Elthina never lifted a finger to actually do a thing, you can talk it over with her many times during the game. She'd never present a solution. I kinda understand Anders here, why he was her as quite the issue here. Of course besides the fact he can't just blow up the templars without blowing up the mages, the Grand Cleric doing nothing while having the power doesn't actually differ at all from supporting the status quo.
It's true, Meredith should have been put down. Without speaking specifficaly about how she treat the mages, here are the two reasons for me : 1 : Despite her regulations (no matter justified or not), more and more mages turned to blood magic. It should have risen a concern to her capacity to maintain order in the the Circle. 2 : There was the affair with Ser Alrick and "solution of tranquility". True, Meredith didn't authorised this, but the fact that ser Alrick did it anyway, plus the fact that templars helped mages to escape the gallows showed that her authority wasn't entirely respected.
Varric explains to Cassandra at the end that it was pretty much a combination of everything going out of control. Meredith crushed the mages, contributing the latter to resort to Blood Magic to defend themselfs, which fuels Meredith's paranoia making her crush the mages even more. In between, Meredith adquires the Red Lyrium idol, which fuels her paranoia even more. And finally, Anders destroyed the Chantry, killing the one person that has some control over Meredith, which gives her the excuse she was seeking to kill all mages.
I feel really bad for her and strongly believe she could have been redeemed given the right environment. She has been through a lot in her life I can truly sympathize with letting hate win.
You know, really makes you wonder that if this is how strong she was just being *near* Red Lyrium, how powerful would she have been as a true Red Templar?
@@starsfalldown1234567 I thought it was a great plotwist in Absolution, but the animation and the way the story progressed, it felt like they stole a lot from "The Legend of Vox Machina". Meredith had so much potential as an antagonist, so bringing her back will definetly be interesting
@@terra_the_nightingale135 Anders started it. She was just protecting the city. Btw, she was right - Orsino was a blood mage that allowed damned necromancer to kill Hawke`s Mom
Левон Аведисьян I mean... her intentions were GOOD... but her actions weren’t. Orsino was a damn idiot and there were crazy blood mages about, but that doesn’t make her actions any better. Normally, you could say the ends justify the means, but in this case Meredith’s end goal wasn’t even good because she was c r a z y
@@terra_the_nightingale135 i think there's nothing wrong or crazy in her actions, until chantry explosion. She is just bitter and agressive. She gone really mad only when she shows red lyrium idol. Whole DA2 finale is a big dumb mess, where your choices don't matter, except for followers. It was right to slay the mages, and her craziness is just a bad plot twist from bioware
Левон Аведисьян I can understand, the red Lyrium is what drove her crazy. She even told Orsino that she didn’t want to treat the mages and him wrongly, it she had no choice. I don’t think she’s completely awful, though I am a much bigger Mage supporter than Templar.
Choosing Varric and Anders for the final fight? *Bold.* P.S. Compare this great game and it’s setting to the childish Barbie-like story in the BG3. Jesus, Z-gens what have you become now… -_-
here i am again getting goosebumps because of this amazing voice acting of meredith
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Maybe my favorite VG villain of all time. A fascinating study of a once good woman driven to mad extremes by the sheer crushing weight of a mad, extreme, almost unbearable set of circumstances. And her voice actress is AMAZING.
Plus that added so easily missed dialogue of her ALMOST talking herself out of it, only for her Sword to spin her thoughts back towards violence and death…so good.
This is in all seriousness my favorite boss from the entire series, bar none. I know DAII gets a lot of flak (most of it undeserved imo), but how anyone can say this is not an awesome final boss is beyond me.
Her voice, though.. powerful, majestic, so expressive, so menacing.
I love the DA series but Bioware is incapable to make good boss fights. This is the "best"?
-Fight with the boss for 20 seconds.
-Then she summons some pointless minions while she is invincible, because that is good. A boss fight is the best when you don't actually fight the boss.
-Then she comes back again so you can hit her some more.
-Then she goes away again and you can fight more pointless mobs, just like you did throughout the entire game.
-Rinse and repeat.
Sorry but this is shit. I'd rather have a desperate battle against the Boss and the minions simultaneously(like in Golems of Amgarrak where your build is truly tested) than this. Of course that is also unfair and can be infuriating, but still better than this. Same with inquisition where your character can be so unbalanced that you can kill the boss within 5 seconds. But at least you achieved that through knowing the game. In DA2 it does not matter how weak or strong you are, because every fight is the same.
The plot is amazing, the characters are lovely, the level design is shit
@@ZRoberto399 I found her hard. I play on Nightmare mode though, all the time, with friendly fire. This video looks like the user didn't enable friendly fire? Made me think more critically of my choices.
@@ZRoberto399 Play on nightmare maybe? It's also funny how you point finger at this and Inquisition while everyone knows DAO is the easiest game of the series.
This odd she wants to arrest and subjugate mages but looking at the ending she is performing magic herself. Second of all she is admitting she is mad.
But in her crazed mind she’s blessed by the maker and her power comes from Him
It's just so much lore in here. Templars CAN'T do magic. At all. They are templars. Their powers vain magic cabilities. The more lyrium in them, the more is that nullification aura strenghtens.
She is getting her power from an "old god". Meaning that lyrium being alive, was corrupted by a dark gods blood, like how darkspawn and people are being corrupted by it. Meaning that there was 1 original corrupt god, who changed somehow, and his blood is corrupting other old gods who escaped the fade, !who corrupt the living, the lyrium and everything else.
Whats more interesting is, that this was not the first case. As red lyrium is pre-second sin thing, meaning that it existed before darkspawn. It existed long before it from an old gods blood. So much lore!
@@Kareszkoma the first old god corrupted was Andruil, she went in a hunt for an forgotten one and came back in full crazy mode. I'm really want DA4 to have some of the forgotten ones.
@@laylachristina5605 oh yeah i guess your right. Huh you really can trace a lot of the thedas's bullshit back to the elves
@@Kareszkoma I mean if you think about it lyrium is just Magic Lite™
Oh fuck, I've been searching for ages for a clip of this battle that has all three of her stun dialog interludes in it. Everyone always kills her before she has a chance to say them, or avoids the AoE attack.
I had no idea she said all of this it adds some much depth to her character it’s honestly so sad
After all these years, I now know why Meridia and Elenwen's voice sounded familiar.
now i hate meridias voice even more in skyrim.
Also kind of funny, their names. "Meredith" "Meridia"
Meredith lost it, her mind was poisoned by the Idol, just like Bartrand. She thinks that she’s immune to the Idol, but she’s not.
The whole thing regarding who started it? Meredith, the Idol or Anders?
Meredith purchased the idol and fashioned it into a sword, Orsino knew the necromancer who killed Leandra and kept quiet about it. The idol fed Meredith illusions and paranoia of blood magic.
Anders persuaded Hawke to help him under the guise of separating Justice from Anders. If Anders hadn’t done it, do you think the Grand Cleric would suggest a peaceful solution for Meredith and Orsino’s feud?
Elthina never lifted a finger to actually do a thing, you can talk it over with her many times during the game. She'd never present a solution. I kinda understand Anders here, why he was her as quite the issue here. Of course besides the fact he can't just blow up the templars without blowing up the mages, the Grand Cleric doing nothing while having the power doesn't actually differ at all from supporting the status quo.
It's true, Meredith should have been put down. Without speaking specifficaly about how she treat the mages, here are the two reasons for me :
1 : Despite her regulations (no matter justified or not), more and more mages turned to blood magic. It should have risen a concern to her capacity to maintain order in the the Circle.
2 : There was the affair with Ser Alrick and "solution of tranquility". True, Meredith didn't authorised this, but the fact that ser Alrick did it anyway, plus the fact that templars helped mages to escape the gallows showed that her authority wasn't entirely respected.
Varric explains to Cassandra at the end that it was pretty much a combination of everything going out of control.
Meredith crushed the mages, contributing the latter to resort to Blood Magic to defend themselfs, which fuels Meredith's paranoia making her crush the mages even more. In between, Meredith adquires the Red Lyrium idol, which fuels her paranoia even more. And finally, Anders destroyed the Chantry, killing the one person that has some control over Meredith, which gives her the excuse she was seeking to kill all mages.
I feel really bad for her and strongly believe she could have been redeemed given the right environment. She has been through a lot in her life I can truly sympathize with letting hate win.
the statue part was really cool
I didn't know Frollo had a sister.
HAD.
a new hand touches the beacon
You know, really makes you wonder that if this is how strong she was just being *near* Red Lyrium, how powerful would she have been as a true Red Templar?
She's way scarier than coffee face imo
It's her in the Netflix show I think
Meredith is dope
She definitely was at the end !
She's so powerful she bleached Carver's hair
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Red lyrium Wynne is scarier than red lyrium Meredith FYI
Meredith looks like Frollo
This doesn't make any sense, she was in the gallows petrified for two years, it has to be a demon disguised as her
Red lyrium turns people into walking rock monsters. Why be surprised she's still alive.
@@starsfalldown1234567 I thought it was a great plotwist in Absolution, but the animation and the way the story progressed, it felt like they stole a lot from "The Legend of Vox Machina". Meredith had so much potential as an antagonist, so bringing her back will definetly be interesting
so this is how she survived....tecnically we didn't really destroyed her
Hawke really sucks at making sure their villains stay, you know, dead lol
@@GenshinLover283 Next time, the Arishok and Orsino are going to show up, alive 🤣🤣
@@GenshinLover283warden is also bad at killing ppl. This is da tradition at this point :/
@@GenshinLover283warden is also bad at killing ppl. This is da tradition at this point :/
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Meredith reminds me a lot of Marjorie Taylor Greene if you really think about it
I cant stress enough that Knight-Commander Meredith did nothing wrong... other than failing to stop Hawk and his evil plans.
I could of saved her
damn, in my memory she was the like coolest boss ever to me, now i watch it, it's just ...not aged well?
#meredithdidnothingwrong
Ehhhh I gotta say killing a bunch of people and literally destroying the city’s pretty bad
@@terra_the_nightingale135 Anders started it. She was just protecting the city. Btw, she was right - Orsino was a blood mage that allowed damned necromancer to kill Hawke`s Mom
Левон Аведисьян I mean... her intentions were GOOD... but her actions weren’t. Orsino was a damn idiot and there were crazy blood mages about, but that doesn’t make her actions any better. Normally, you could say the ends justify the means, but in this case Meredith’s end goal wasn’t even good because she was c r a z y
@@terra_the_nightingale135 i think there's nothing wrong or crazy in her actions, until chantry explosion. She is just bitter and agressive. She gone really mad only when she shows red lyrium idol. Whole DA2 finale is a big dumb mess, where your choices don't matter, except for followers. It was right to slay the mages, and her craziness is just a bad plot twist from bioware
Левон Аведисьян I can understand, the red Lyrium is what drove her crazy. She even told Orsino that she didn’t want to treat the mages and him wrongly, it she had no choice. I don’t think she’s completely awful, though I am a much bigger Mage supporter than Templar.
Choosing Varric and Anders for the final fight? *Bold.*
P.S. Compare this great game and it’s setting to the childish Barbie-like story in the BG3. Jesus, Z-gens what have you become now… -_-
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