It’s weird that when Tails wasn’t a genius in Adventures you excused it as being because that aspect of his character hadn’t been introduced yet, but when the same thing was the case in SatAM it was a negative. In fact, SatAM even had Tails doing more techy stuff by the end.
Actually, AoStH Tails had more technical development in the middle of the series, from "Tails in Charge" to "Tails Prevails". So AoStH Tails is technically the better version, because he isn’t braindead or rams himself to trees on purpose like his SatAM counterpart.
I think the problem with SatAm Tails is that he was starting to develop at the end, but we sadly didn’t get to see where that was going. That is one thing I’d hold against the show: not developing Tails as a character and featuring more of him earlier in the show.
Approval of God: Naoto Ohshima, the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog, has said in Twitter posts that he enjoys Sonic SatAM. The DiC staff gave him a poster of the show's characters, which he keeps framed in glass: "Sonic was born in the image of the United States. I love American Sonic. Thank you." - Naoto Ohshima
Sonic Satam is what gave Archie the idea to make comics of them, but ever since Satam didn't get season 3 because of Power Rangers and Ken Pender's doings, Sonic Satam never got that season 3
For me, SatAM is the perfect tone for Sonic; dark but still good kid-friendly fun when it needs to be to make things not feel edgy like Shadow the Hedgehog or 06 lol. For me, Sonic being just pure comedy takes away the dark atmosphere from the final levels in the classic era and the dramatic adventure from the early 3D games. SatAM gets that balance, as well as portraying Sonic himself correctly, Adventures also just feels like a lazy Bugs Bunny clone lol.
Agreed, which doesn't make itself inherently bad, but we already had reruns of Bugs Bunny on Cartoon Network back then. Sonic SatAm had more faith in it's audience to appreciate the subtly of what was happening and very much mirrored the Archie Sonic Comics of the time quite beautifully.
That’s not to say Sonic having a comedic tone while being serious is a bad idea in of itself. Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 definitely has this nice blend of AoStH and SatAM in terms of world building and character growth… which I can’t say the same for the games after Adventure 2.
SatAM's Robotnic is always going to be the bar by which I compare Robotnic by. And I've never seen a better one. The stakes felt real and you never knew when the piper would come calling. I'll almost always chose well crafted drama over a similar goofy show. But as you said, that is my preference.
I loved SatAM's Robotnic when i were a teen, but now i prefer Adventures Robotnik. As i grown older, Drama plots became predictable to me, and well-crafted drama is heavily predictable. Because i see "Oh, now they're going to add the suspense... such a cliche" "Oh, now i don't know how the fight will end because of suspense... what a cliche... well, i predict that one of heroes would survive or not. Oh, he survived, it was one of my two predictions, what a cliche." I don't feel immersed with that. But Being the goofball... that's the purpose of Eggman/Robotnik. Besides... the very best villain would combine being a goofball and actual creepy villain. Because i would be scared if the ruler of tyrannical empire acts like a clown. That's called Psychological Attack. Make your opponents to think that you're a fool so they would be fooled by that. Real genius knows how to ACT like a fool, while hiding genius. As one guy said "I would be pretty scared to see a warrior who's so confident, that he wears pink armor" Same thing with Goofy Genius.
@@KeyleeTamirian In honesty, when you have a character who is so apathetic to the point of not caring about the situation, you’re driving away your fans.
@@KeyleeTamirianI can't say I agree with you thinking Goofy and creepy is the definitive villain type, as the thing about villains is their variety, how they act, if a villain wasn't goofy and was just a brooding tyrant you CAN make him terrifying, to just make all villains goofy/creepy would just end up being boring in the end route
AoStH's Robotnik is so much more memorable IMO. His mannerisms, his exaggerated movements and form, Long John Baldry's voice acting: you could tell the man was having a lot of fun in that recording studio. He was silly, but he stuck with me. SatAM's Robotnik? Jim Cummings is an excellent voice actor, but Robotnik himself is...forgettable. He's the generic angry villain. The standard "I'll kill all of you!" kind of villain who has no other motivation than being a cruel tyrant for no reason.
@@whaleping Paramount Robotnik has a motivation - trust issues after being orphaned combined with superiority complex thanks to his superior intellect. Universe under the control of his reliable robots still be reliable too.
I’m sorry but why would you disrespect satam robotnik. I do like Aosth robotnik but satam robotnik is a great villain, not a generic villain. Are you thinking that every serious robotnik version is generic? What?! Bruh. Why? What the hell?
Sally is a CHIPMUNK, not a squirrel. Also, Tails wasn't as established much as a brainiac mechanic in 1993, nobody knew what he was going to become in 10 years.
Chipmunk /ˈCHipˌməNGk/ _noun_ A burrowing ground *squirrel* with cheek pouches and light and dark stripes running down the body, found in North America and northern Eurasia.
@@chrisrj9871 Not just a rectangle, but a special rectangle to see who's the most box-like. This Sonic Riders joke didn't work out as well as I thought it would, but anyways, please point out what way pointing out that saying "squirrel" to refer to -Ricky-chan- Sally Acorn is taxonomically accurate is irrelevant.
As a SatAM fan I was pained by the wins that Adventures got. But, if I’m being objective, I can’t disagree either. Especially as compared to the actual game. That being said I think, you just made me realize WHY I liked SatAM so much. It was nothing like the game but it was also nothing like all the shows at the time. Ren and Stimpy, Earthworm Jim, The New Adventures of the Pink Panther… the list goes on. They were all series that comprised of unrelated shorts with near nonexistent connective tissue. Meanwhile SatAM not only had seasons long plot lines, but it was far more high stakes and darker than just about anything out there. It was the doorway to the heavier stuff. So yeah now that you mention it Adventures was the more definitive video game cartoon, but I think SatAM was more ‘groundbreaking’
Always preferred Adventures. Sure the show was lighthearted, but it was fun, colourful and exciting. It was much closer in tone to the games as well, with Sonic and Tails taking on the show stealer that is Long John Baldrys Robotnik. SatAM was far too dark for its own good, and has little to nothing to do with the mega drive games. Plus Tails was shoved aside, but in adventures he’s always there and even gets some episodes to save the day. Sure SATAM was ok, but I wasn’t a sonic fan for dark stories and drama, I watched it because I wanted to see Sonic fight Robotnik like in the mega drive games. It’s like if they made a Mario show where he was a ptsd scarred Vietnam vet and Bowser was a drug baron addicted to heroin. It doesn’t fit what made me like the characters,
Oh a new Pup video! Fantastic! Comparing the two Sonic cartoons? Well this will be pretty one-sided... Story: gets a draw. Oh. OH. This is going to be good.
@@STikER326 yeah pretty much after felt that too. I don’t see how AoStHH music or tone was more inline with the games. SonicSatAM was more in line with the games and remember that Sonic CD and Was already a thing and Sonic 3 was about to drop when these shows started plus even Knat made an appearance. I also notice and how he faulted Sonic SatAM for not having Tails not being the tech of the crew but not AoStHH. Sonic SatAM had tails more of techy in the second half of the show. There were only a few episode that had Tails as a techy in AoStHH.
Near the end of the SatAM they had a story where tails is growing up and starting to help sonic with missions, it’s really cool to see him grow and become a part of the duo over time, it’s a shame they cancelled it right after tails started joining the missions
maltese 84 I often wonder that myself since it ended on cliffhanger! I heard that tails would have been on more missions and knuckles would have been introduced eventually. I thought the glowing eyes at the end were from knuckles but apparently the show runner says they were snively
@maltese 84 But it can't be Naugus', because he doesn't have conjoined eyes. Also, it's dumb to make Chaotic Neutral character into a Chaotic Evil character, especially when we just met that character in just one episode.
Old comment, but Ben Hurst stated before passing that he planned for Season 3 to be the rise of tails. Because in the early episodes Sally treated him like a 5 yr old "funny kiss", bedtime stories etc.
I never saw the darker toned cartoon until many years later, but I know I've seen the lighter toned one a good deal as a kid. In terms of storytelling and character development, Sonic SatAM gets the award. In terms of surrealist and absurdist humor, no contest, Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog takes the cake.
No. Sonic underground was lame cause the story never progressed, but I at least didn't feel bored while watching it. (Whatever the non satam show was called cough cough)
Why there was two Sonic the Hedgehog shows in 1993: According to Robby London, DiC originally made a deal to produce only the darker, more story-driven Sonic cartoon for ABC to air on Saturday mornings. However, DiC also wanted to go further and produce additional episodes for weekday syndication as well, similar to what DiC has previously done with The Real Ghostbusters, but Mark Pedowitz, the then-senior vice president of business affairs and contracts at ABC, who expected the Sonic cartoon to air *exclusively* *on* *ABC,* rejected the idea, saying that if DiC puts the show in syndication, then it *won't* be on their network. ABC wouldn't agree to the deal until London came with a proposition that DiC would produce a separate, vastly different Sonic show for syndication instead, the end result of which became Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog.
The only way I could see them ranked against each other without it being based off of personal biases is by looking at if they met the thematic goals that they aimed to achieve, like being in the relationship between characters, the characters personality, their world around them, or the conflict. These are the things we should look at objectively when it comes to a competition between to shows like this
Honestly I prefer Adventures because it was my first Sonic cartoon so yeah it is nostalgia based but it is my choice. To be honest I am surprised the Sonic fanbase didn't complain about Tails being too brown in Adventures.
It's nice to see someone who doesn't write 'Adventures' off as the all-round inferior show, many Sonic fans write it off as objectively terrible and you'll rarely hear a 'Saturday' fan that sings that show's praises while acting like 'Adventures' shouldn't exist. From a quality and seriousness perspective, 'Saturday' is the clear winner, it is the more polished and better made show all around...But at the same time it feels more like a cartoon that wants to be Star Wars than a Sonic show. It feels like they really wanted it to be about the Freedom Fighters, but were obligated to have Sonic, Tails and Robotnik there for marketing purposes. The Sonic elements are heavily downplayed and they barely reference the games outside of Sonic, Robotnik, the Rings, and occasionally Tails when the writers remember he exists. Adventures makes liberal references to the games, we get the Chaos Emeralds (one even requires Rings to be reached, like the Sonic 2 Special Zones), Zones are name-dropped (Marble Zone, Casino Night Zone, Special Zone, etc), Robotnik actually has Badniks, Tails is a major character like in the games, the music is a closer fit to the games (Sonic's theme is a remix of the Intro Theme from the first 2 games), and Robotnik wants to remake Mobius in his image (like how Eggman wants to make Eggmanland, Robotnik turns an amusement park into Robotnikland). Saturday Robotnik seems to be content with ruling a desolate, barren wasteland populated entirely by Swatbots, Adventures Robotnik wants an intact Mobius where everyone fears, or ideally admires him. Also ironically it's the goofy, wacky Adventures show that delves more into Robotnik's character. Saturday Robotnik is a 1-dimensional villain with no real motivation other than desiring power for its own sake. We never find out WHY he wants to rule Mobius so badly or how polluting it and destroying its ecosystem is something he wants. Adventures Robotnik is doing it because of his own gigantic, but fragile ego. He had an abusive mother who raised him to be evil (and still abuses him even as an adult), he lost the girl he loved to his high school rival, and he had a strong desire to be admired and respected. Even Sonic realises why Robotnik turned out so rotten after meeting his mom, he's clearly someone who never knew love and even creates a surrogate family whom he also abuses and robot wives because he's lonely. I'm not saying he's some deep, nuanced, well-written character, but the writers put in more effort to flesh out his backstory, motivation and dynamic with the rest of the cast. Saturday Robotnik is just evil for its own sake. I also never really bought the relationship between Sonic and Sally, his reckless, risk-taking, non-serious personality is a constant annoyance for Sally and her uptight, serious, no-nonsense personality makes Sonic feel tied down. It's like they wanted to replicate the relationship between Han Solo and Princess Leia, but it just doesn't work with how incompatible Sonic and Sally are if they looked at their relationship realistically.
Screwed by the Network: Despite pulling in solid ratings against Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and being connected with a mega-hit game series, Sonic SATAM got cancelled for two reasons: Disney had just bought ABC and decided to clean house concerning their Saturday lineup (which would lead to One Saturday Morning emerging a couple years later), and many of ABC's stations tended to delay the lineup or preempt it entirely to air local news or sports. As a result, some people didn't see the show until USA Network put it on as part of their Action Extreme Team block.
Okay, let's get right into this. My take on your categories: Story - SatAM Characters - Tie Animation - SatAM Music - AoStH Voice Cast - AoStH Villain - AoStH Sonic - Tie AoStH still got more points, but I like SatAM more
I wouldn't compare Adventures to Ren and Stimpy, that show made very little sense. Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog slapstick was more like Stephen Spilberg's Tiny Toons Adventures and Animaniacs.
To me, SatAM for story, but AoStH wins the character department. You have to remember, both those shows were using Sonic 1&2 for reference, including their Game Gear counterparts, so Knuckles doesn’t exist in either one… and even if Sonic CD and Sonic 3 was released during Season 2 of SATAM, they still didn’t take advantage of having more elements from the games in tasteful manner (Blast to the Past has a Floating Island and Time Stones, but neither element are related to each other in the actual games).
Comparing These two Sonic shows is literally the same as comparing Teen Titans and Teen Titans Go. One is obviously the more mature, more realistic approach to more serious themes, while still being able to show comedic effects. The other is the equivalent to the form of comedy you'll find in a Spongebob episode. Funny, extremely whimsical and cartoony, but lacking in substance and depth, and you won't get much of anything else but a cheap laugh from a worn out gag.
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog is my favorite of the two, I found it more entertaining because it's hilarious and Grounder, Scratch and Coconuts are my favorite minions out of all the Sonic cartoons.
Thank you for creating this video comparing the differences between these sonic shows. While I don't share your preference between the two, I thank you for reminding me which one was which.
*One I grew up as a kid on... the other I discovered the brilliance denied to me from a young age* Oh god... Please Pup don’t make me do this.... 7:46 CHIPMUNK. Do you SEE a giant tail on her??
This was No Contest, even more so is that Adventures Ran 3 Years of Air Time while Saturday only went on for 1 Year, so Adventures Lasted 2 more Years than Saturday
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog was on Fox, but it was syndicated. Sonic the Hedgehog (a.k.a. Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog and SatAM), on the other hand, was a Saturday morning network opponent. It was also on syndicated on many UPN, Fox, The WB and independent stations later in the 90's.
Technically Asoth only ran in 1993. There was an X-mas special released in 1996 though which is why you get 93-96, but it literally was just 1 episode out of 66.
Yes someone with TASTE. I always bring up the “Virgin SatAM vs Chad AOSTH” image. Glad there’s people out there who prefer to just turn off their brain and enjoy the screwball ride.
Both are great. But I can't help but enjoy the things that were given so much thought and care. SatAM was groundbreaking and 25 years of a comic was made after it. People want the Freedom Fighters back and I hope Sonic Prime mentions them at least with the whole multiverse concept
the adventures of sonic the hedgehog is comparable to teen titans go and sonic sat am is comparable to teen titans in that one is silly and the other more dramatic teen titans and sonic sat am even both ended with a cliffhanger
I prefer The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog because the episodes have so much comedy and I remeber Robotnik's famoue catchphrase " I hate that Hedgehog" it cracked me up😀😅😂🤣.
I grew up watching Adventures on Toon Disney when they were doing re-runs, I also have vague memories of watching Underground. I was generally a late Sonic fan, I first met him at my cousins house, they both had a genesis and I first played Sonic 2, and watched them also play Sonic Adventure on Dreamcast. My first system was the N64, so I missed the whole SEGA vs Nintendo war. I watched Satam back in 2007, its definitely a great show, but I would honestly say I have more affection towards Adventures. Satam is by no means terrible, it got robbed of a 3rd season and it could have been better if more territory was explored. Power Rangers took Sonic's hype away, which is meaningless the more you think about it. Pokemon and DBZ came out quickly and DEMOLISHED Power Rangers. Makes me wonder how things would have played differently if Satam was never cancelled.
Now do a version of this that also includes Sonic Underground. Earlier in my life, these three cartoons formed a good bit of what I knew of the series; I couldn't recognise Dr. Eggman when I saw him illustrated in an ad for the Dreamcast games! I did, however, learn more about the various branchs and even saw all three of these cartoons. Now I have a chance to read the entire original run of "Sonic the Comic" and a vast chunck of history of "Archie Comics SatAM".
I like aosth slightly more. I just like how weird,funny, and surreal it is. And not to forget all the classic jokes and ytps it created. Satam is a bit overrated but it’s still a pretty good show.
Overrated is harsh. There was so much love put into the show. 25 year comic, the longest for a video game character came from it. People want Sally back and the freedom fighters today. I think underrated would be more accurate.
I have a theory: what if aosth happend before Satam and when robotnick finally took over mobius, sonic took things more serious and soon met the freedom fighters
To be honest, i like aosth more than satam sonic. Mostly it fits more to the game rather than going darker theme. But i do like satam sonic if aosth have too much weirdness And aosth robotnik have very goofy eggman voice Also, PINGAS
Both shows are amazing in their own right, but Satam is definitely my favorite of the two. I wish they would have continued making Satam at the time, but at the same Aosth made me laugh lot. Aosth was probably the show to watch if your having a bad day, it's the type of show to make you forget all your worries and just have good time watching. I give two thumbs up to both shows, as a sonic fan.
Imagine if sonic cartoons was still airing and a special featuring green hill zone and with abandoning the characters except for tails beginning Sonic 2
It’s weird that when Tails wasn’t a genius in Adventures you excused it as being because that aspect of his character hadn’t been introduced yet, but when the same thing was the case in SatAM it was a negative. In fact, SatAM even had Tails doing more techy stuff by the end.
Actually, AoStH Tails had more technical development in the middle of the series, from "Tails in Charge" to "Tails Prevails". So AoStH Tails is technically the better version, because he isn’t braindead or rams himself to trees on purpose like his SatAM counterpart.
It's because Tails ends up fixing stuff in AOSTH.
@@Speed_311 that’s exactly my point.
@@robbiewalker2831 I know.
I think the problem with SatAm Tails is that he was starting to develop at the end, but we sadly didn’t get to see where that was going. That is one thing I’d hold against the show: not developing Tails as a character and featuring more of him earlier in the show.
Approval of God: Naoto Ohshima, the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog, has said in Twitter posts that he enjoys Sonic SatAM. The DiC staff gave him a poster of the show's characters, which he keeps framed in glass:
"Sonic was born in the image of the United States. I love American Sonic. Thank you." - Naoto Ohshima
That’s funny, I showed AoStH to him on Facebook and he enjoyed that. I think that statement Naoto said was meant for BOTH of the shows.
Don't tell that to Pariah695
Sonic Satam is what gave Archie the idea to make comics of them, but ever since Satam didn't get season 3 because of Power Rangers and Ken Pender's doings, Sonic Satam never got that season 3
Project SEA3ON looks promising and has a trailer out
For me, SatAM is the perfect tone for Sonic; dark but still good kid-friendly fun when it needs to be to make things not feel edgy like Shadow the Hedgehog or 06 lol. For me, Sonic being just pure comedy takes away the dark atmosphere from the final levels in the classic era and the dramatic adventure from the early 3D games. SatAM gets that balance, as well as portraying Sonic himself correctly, Adventures also just feels like a lazy Bugs Bunny clone lol.
Agreed, which doesn't make itself inherently bad, but we already had reruns of Bugs Bunny on Cartoon Network back then. Sonic SatAm had more faith in it's audience to appreciate the subtly of what was happening and very much mirrored the Archie Sonic Comics of the time quite beautifully.
So true!
That’s not to say Sonic having a comedic tone while being serious is a bad idea in of itself. Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 definitely has this nice blend of AoStH and SatAM in terms of world building and character growth… which I can’t say the same for the games after Adventure 2.
YES
SatAM's Robotnic is always going to be the bar by which I compare Robotnic by. And I've never seen a better one. The stakes felt real and you never knew when the piper would come calling. I'll almost always chose well crafted drama over a similar goofy show. But as you said, that is my preference.
I loved SatAM's Robotnic when i were a teen, but now i prefer Adventures Robotnik. As i grown older, Drama plots became predictable to me, and well-crafted drama is heavily predictable. Because i see "Oh, now they're going to add the suspense... such a cliche" "Oh, now i don't know how the fight will end because of suspense... what a cliche... well, i predict that one of heroes would survive or not. Oh, he survived, it was one of my two predictions, what a cliche." I don't feel immersed with that. But Being the goofball... that's the purpose of Eggman/Robotnik. Besides... the very best villain would combine being a goofball and actual creepy villain. Because i would be scared if the ruler of tyrannical empire acts like a clown. That's called Psychological Attack. Make your opponents to think that you're a fool so they would be fooled by that. Real genius knows how to ACT like a fool, while hiding genius.
As one guy said "I would be pretty scared to see a warrior who's so confident, that he wears pink armor" Same thing with Goofy Genius.
@@KeyleeTamirian In honesty, when you have a character who is so apathetic to the point of not caring about the situation, you’re driving away your fans.
@@robbiewalker2831 Yet at the same time drawing people who enjoy this kind of characters.
@@KeyleeTamirianI can't say I agree with you thinking Goofy and creepy is the definitive villain type, as the thing about villains is their variety, how they act, if a villain wasn't goofy and was just a brooding tyrant you CAN make him terrifying, to just make all villains goofy/creepy would just end up being boring in the end route
@@lordx7013 Yeah.
I somewhat prefer side-villains, Team Rocket style.
AoStH's Robotnik is so much more memorable IMO. His mannerisms, his exaggerated movements and form, Long John Baldry's voice acting: you could tell the man was having a lot of fun in that recording studio.
He was silly, but he stuck with me.
SatAM's Robotnik? Jim Cummings is an excellent voice actor, but Robotnik himself is...forgettable. He's the generic angry villain. The standard "I'll kill all of you!" kind of villain who has no other motivation than being a cruel tyrant for no reason.
I mean, any version of Robotnik doesn’t have a clear reason for doing what they do.
@@whaleping Paramount Robotnik has a motivation - trust issues after being orphaned combined with superiority complex thanks to his superior intellect. Universe under the control of his reliable robots still be reliable too.
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I’m sorry but why would you disrespect satam robotnik. I do like
Aosth robotnik but satam robotnik is a great villain, not a generic villain. Are you thinking that every serious robotnik version is generic? What?! Bruh. Why? What the hell?
Also…PINGAS-
Sally is a CHIPMUNK, not a squirrel. Also, Tails wasn't as established much as a brainiac mechanic in 1993, nobody knew what he was going to become in 10 years.
Chipmunk
/ˈCHipˌməNGk/
_noun_
A burrowing ground *squirrel* with cheek pouches and light and dark stripes running down the body, found in North America and northern Eurasia.
@@bubbykins4864 - I fail to see how that's relevant. A square's a rectangle, but nobody calls it a rectangle.
@@chrisrj9871 Not just a rectangle, but a special rectangle to see who's the most box-like. This Sonic Riders joke didn't work out as well as I thought it would, but anyways, please point out what way pointing out that saying "squirrel" to refer to -Ricky-chan- Sally Acorn is taxonomically accurate is irrelevant.
As a SatAM fan I was pained by the wins that Adventures got. But, if I’m being objective, I can’t disagree either. Especially as compared to the actual game.
That being said I think, you just made me realize WHY I liked SatAM so much. It was nothing like the game but it was also nothing like all the shows at the time. Ren and Stimpy, Earthworm Jim, The New Adventures of the Pink Panther… the list goes on. They were all series that comprised of unrelated shorts with near nonexistent connective tissue. Meanwhile SatAM not only had seasons long plot lines, but it was far more high stakes and darker than just about anything out there. It was the doorway to the heavier stuff.
So yeah now that you mention it Adventures was the more definitive video game cartoon, but I think SatAM was more ‘groundbreaking’
Always preferred Adventures.
Sure the show was lighthearted, but it was fun, colourful and exciting. It was much closer in tone to the games as well, with Sonic and Tails taking on the show stealer that is Long John Baldrys Robotnik.
SatAM was far too dark for its own good, and has little to nothing to do with the mega drive games. Plus Tails was shoved aside, but in adventures he’s always there and even gets some episodes to save the day. Sure SATAM was ok, but I wasn’t a sonic fan for dark stories and drama, I watched it because I wanted to see Sonic fight Robotnik like in the mega drive games. It’s like if they made a Mario show where he was a ptsd scarred Vietnam vet and Bowser was a drug baron addicted to heroin. It doesn’t fit what made me like the characters,
ASOTH is like The Emperor’s New Groove. SATAM is like Kingdom of the Sun.
Anyone else remember sonic underground?
@@targettoad691 sonic satam fanbrat
Yep!
@@spooktoonz sonic underground sucks.
Don’t remind me
Yep
Oh a new Pup video! Fantastic! Comparing the two Sonic cartoons? Well this will be pretty one-sided...
Story: gets a draw.
Oh. OH.
This is going to be good.
...and it turned out to be one-sided anyway in the end
@@STikER326 yeah pretty much after felt that too. I don’t see how AoStHH music or tone was more inline with the games. SonicSatAM was more in line with the games and remember that Sonic CD and Was already a thing and Sonic 3 was about to drop when these shows started plus even Knat made an appearance. I also notice and how he faulted Sonic SatAM for not having Tails not being the tech of the crew but not AoStHH. Sonic SatAM had tails more of techy in the second half of the show. There were only a few episode that had Tails as a techy in AoStHH.
Near the end of the SatAM they had a story where tails is growing up and starting to help sonic with missions, it’s really cool to see him grow and become a part of the duo over time, it’s a shame they cancelled it right after tails started joining the missions
maltese 84 I often wonder that myself since it ended on cliffhanger! I heard that tails would have been on more missions and knuckles would have been introduced eventually. I thought the glowing eyes at the end were from knuckles but apparently the show runner says they were snively
maltese 84 yeah that’s the one! It’s been quite awhile since I’ve seen it. I wish they continued because the show was getting better and better
@maltese 84 But it can't be Naugus', because he doesn't have conjoined eyes. Also, it's dumb to make Chaotic Neutral character into a Chaotic Evil character, especially when we just met that character in just one episode.
Old comment, but Ben Hurst stated before passing that he planned for Season 3 to be the rise of tails. Because in the early episodes Sally treated him like a 5 yr old "funny kiss", bedtime stories etc.
I never saw the darker toned cartoon until many years later, but I know I've seen the lighter toned one a good deal as a kid. In terms of storytelling and character development, Sonic SatAM gets the award. In terms of surrealist and absurdist humor, no contest, Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog takes the cake.
What we can all agree on is that both are infinitely better than the abysmally bad Sonic Underground
Hard disagree there
No. Sonic underground was lame cause the story never progressed, but I at least didn't feel bored while watching it. (Whatever the non satam show was called cough cough)
Why there was two Sonic the Hedgehog shows in 1993:
According to Robby London, DiC originally made a deal to produce only the darker, more story-driven Sonic cartoon for ABC to air on Saturday mornings. However, DiC also wanted to go further and produce additional episodes for weekday syndication as well, similar to what DiC has previously done with The Real Ghostbusters, but Mark Pedowitz, the then-senior vice president of business affairs and contracts at ABC, who expected the Sonic cartoon to air *exclusively* *on* *ABC,* rejected the idea, saying that if DiC puts the show in syndication, then it *won't* be on their network. ABC wouldn't agree to the deal until London came with a proposition that DiC would produce a separate, vastly different Sonic show for syndication instead, the end result of which became Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog.
Now if someone tries to touch me in a way or place that makes me feel uncomfortable, I know that’s no good!
Mobotnik Studios I never knew it was a meme till this May 2020
@@SonicandDucktalesProductions (jaw goes down for the rest of my life)
It's a shame that sonic satam never got its 3rd season.
I do adore AOSTH as much as I like Sonic, but SATAM wins this round for being the BEST Sonic show ever in my opinion as it first aired around AOSTH.
The AoStH Sonic just feels more in character for some reason
The only way I could see them ranked against each other without it being based off of personal biases is by looking at if they met the thematic goals that they aimed to achieve, like being in the relationship between characters, the characters personality, their world around them, or the conflict. These are the things we should look at objectively when it comes to a competition between to shows like this
Honestly I prefer Adventures because it was my first Sonic cartoon so yeah it is nostalgia based but it is my choice. To be honest I am surprised the Sonic fanbase didn't complain about Tails being too brown in Adventures.
It's nice to see someone who doesn't write 'Adventures' off as the all-round inferior show, many Sonic fans write it off as objectively terrible and you'll rarely hear a 'Saturday' fan that sings that show's praises while acting like 'Adventures' shouldn't exist. From a quality and seriousness perspective, 'Saturday' is the clear winner, it is the more polished and better made show all around...But at the same time it feels more like a cartoon that wants to be Star Wars than a Sonic show. It feels like they really wanted it to be about the Freedom Fighters, but were obligated to have Sonic, Tails and Robotnik there for marketing purposes. The Sonic elements are heavily downplayed and they barely reference the games outside of Sonic, Robotnik, the Rings, and occasionally Tails when the writers remember he exists.
Adventures makes liberal references to the games, we get the Chaos Emeralds (one even requires Rings to be reached, like the Sonic 2 Special Zones), Zones are name-dropped (Marble Zone, Casino Night Zone, Special Zone, etc), Robotnik actually has Badniks, Tails is a major character like in the games, the music is a closer fit to the games (Sonic's theme is a remix of the Intro Theme from the first 2 games), and Robotnik wants to remake Mobius in his image (like how Eggman wants to make Eggmanland, Robotnik turns an amusement park into Robotnikland). Saturday Robotnik seems to be content with ruling a desolate, barren wasteland populated entirely by Swatbots, Adventures Robotnik wants an intact Mobius where everyone fears, or ideally admires him.
Also ironically it's the goofy, wacky Adventures show that delves more into Robotnik's character. Saturday Robotnik is a 1-dimensional villain with no real motivation other than desiring power for its own sake. We never find out WHY he wants to rule Mobius so badly or how polluting it and destroying its ecosystem is something he wants. Adventures Robotnik is doing it because of his own gigantic, but fragile ego. He had an abusive mother who raised him to be evil (and still abuses him even as an adult), he lost the girl he loved to his high school rival, and he had a strong desire to be admired and respected. Even Sonic realises why Robotnik turned out so rotten after meeting his mom, he's clearly someone who never knew love and even creates a surrogate family whom he also abuses and robot wives because he's lonely.
I'm not saying he's some deep, nuanced, well-written character, but the writers put in more effort to flesh out his backstory, motivation and dynamic with the rest of the cast. Saturday Robotnik is just evil for its own sake. I also never really bought the relationship between Sonic and Sally, his reckless, risk-taking, non-serious personality is a constant annoyance for Sally and her uptight, serious, no-nonsense personality makes Sonic feel tied down. It's like they wanted to replicate the relationship between Han Solo and Princess Leia, but it just doesn't work with how incompatible Sonic and Sally are if they looked at their relationship realistically.
The only thing I remember from this shows...: SnooPING AS usual I see
For your information Snively is Robotnik's nephew, Nuff said.
How is this even a question? Sonic SatAM was phenomenal.
"im surprised they could use in the Hall of the Mountain King due to copyright" my dude that's a nearly 150 year old song
Who else thinks Sonic's parents are Dead in Satam
Their not they kinda follow the archie comics so they were roboticized
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 well his dad is almost dead so...
@@percivalknightoftheflames855it's the other way around, Archie was based on satam
Screwed by the Network: Despite pulling in solid ratings against Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and being connected with a mega-hit game series, Sonic SATAM got cancelled for two reasons: Disney had just bought ABC and decided to clean house concerning their Saturday lineup (which would lead to One Saturday Morning emerging a couple years later), and many of ABC's stations tended to delay the lineup or preempt it entirely to air local news or sports. As a result, some people didn't see the show until USA Network put it on as part of their Action Extreme Team block.
So it's kinda confirmed that SatAM is literally just early Archie Sonic as a show.
Archie Sonic was adapted from SATAM.
@@PlanetZoidstarthank you for clarifying this
AoSTH lacked the dark atmosphere.
SatAM lacked good Personality
Satam had good personality. It just got Canned too early which isn’t fair
I love Aosth because PINGAS!
Okay, let's get right into this.
My take on your categories:
Story - SatAM
Characters - Tie
Animation - SatAM
Music - AoStH
Voice Cast - AoStH
Villain - AoStH
Sonic - Tie
AoStH still got more points, but I like SatAM more
Let's not forget more episodes... AoStH! 😎
AOSTH feels a little more like animaniacs to me
Ren and Stumpy? Where the hell do you get that from? Aosth is more inline with the old 1930s/Max Fletcher cartoons.
I prefer the adventures of sonic the hedgehog because it haw more episodes, more comedy, and is less predictable
I'm going to destroy everyone by saying my honest opinion.
Sonic Underground is better than SatAM.
I honestly agree
Sally's father is a squirrel but her and her mother are chipmunks.
I wouldn't compare Adventures to Ren and Stimpy, that show made very little sense.
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog slapstick was more like Stephen Spilberg's Tiny Toons Adventures and Animaniacs.
SATAM by a long shot in the story and character department.
To me, SatAM for story, but AoStH wins the character department. You have to remember, both those shows were using Sonic 1&2 for reference, including their Game Gear counterparts, so Knuckles doesn’t exist in either one… and even if Sonic CD and Sonic 3 was released during Season 2 of SATAM, they still didn’t take advantage of having more elements from the games in tasteful manner (Blast to the Past has a Floating Island and Time Stones, but neither element are related to each other in the actual games).
Eh....... you just like the old 30s-50s Disney and WB shorts type.
Of course there was always Sonic Underground.
What do you mean? Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog wasn't educational. I dunno where you got THAT from...apart from the Sonic Sez segments.
Wdym? Aosth is educational sonic sez!
Comparing These two Sonic shows is literally the same as comparing Teen Titans and Teen Titans Go. One is obviously the more mature, more realistic approach to more serious themes, while still being able to show comedic effects.
The other is the equivalent to the form of comedy you'll find in a Spongebob episode. Funny, extremely whimsical and cartoony, but lacking in substance and depth, and you won't get much of anything else but a cheap laugh from a worn out gag.
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog is my favorite of the two, I found it more entertaining because it's hilarious and Grounder, Scratch and Coconuts are my favorite minions out of all the Sonic cartoons.
Thank you for creating this video comparing the differences between these sonic shows.
While I don't share your preference between the two, I thank you for reminding me which one was which.
9:05: I get it!
6-S = Success. NEAT!
Actually, Sonic the Hedgehog is referred to SatAM
I think sonic underground is better
It's not a complete Pup experience without the adZinco comment.
Sonic Underground is underrated
Adventures is better because of how goofy it is, plus it’s like Sonic 2: the anime
*One I grew up as a kid on... the other I discovered the brilliance denied to me from a young age*
Oh god...
Please Pup don’t make me do this....
7:46
CHIPMUNK. Do you SEE a giant tail on her??
This was No Contest, even more so is that Adventures Ran 3 Years of Air Time while Saturday only went on for 1 Year, so Adventures Lasted 2 more Years than Saturday
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog was on Fox, but it was syndicated. Sonic the Hedgehog (a.k.a. Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog and SatAM), on the other hand, was a Saturday morning network opponent. It was also on syndicated on many UPN, Fox, The WB and independent stations later in the 90's.
While I enjoyed AoSTH, I also enjoy SatAM moreso than Adventures!
ATOSH sonic could crush SATAM robotnik
He was close when he called the SSSSS Squad the 6S's.
Because in the comics, their shorter name was the S6
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog will always be my second favorite Sonic Cartoon, right behind Boom.
Sonic SatAM. Although Underground is my personal favourite tbh
Same here. Underground will probably always be my favorite, (It has Manic the Hedgehog in it for crying out loud.) But SatAM is a very close second.
in my opinion Satam should have won theme like did you not here the theme song blue streak speeds by SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it's kinda sad Aosth ran until 96 while Satam only made it to 94 ...
Technically Asoth only ran in 1993. There was an X-mas special released in 1996 though which is why you get 93-96, but it literally was just 1 episode out of 66.
Here are my top 3 Sonic animated series:
1. Dorkly's Sonic
2. LowBrow's Sonic for Hire
3. AoStH
😂😂😂 true
Yes someone with TASTE.
I always bring up the “Virgin SatAM vs Chad AOSTH” image. Glad there’s people out there who prefer to just turn off their brain and enjoy the screwball ride.
Both are great. But I can't help but enjoy the things that were given so much thought and care. SatAM was groundbreaking and 25 years of a comic was made after it. People want the Freedom Fighters back and I hope Sonic Prime mentions them at least with the whole multiverse concept
Each is great in its own way. But only one of them - indeed, only one TV show in the entire world - graced us with the holy gift of PINGAS!
Plus they made tails not extremely smart as he should’ve been
Back then he wasn't really as tech savvy as he is now
I was aware of AOSTH, but not the other show growing up.
the adventures of sonic the hedgehog is comparable to teen titans go and sonic sat am is comparable to teen titans in that one is silly and the other more dramatic teen titans and sonic sat am even both ended with a cliffhanger
WOW. You're extremely on point. That is deadly accurate. You should do reviews. Teen titans go and teen titans. MIND BLOWN.
The Teen Titans has nothing to do with Sonic
@@samuelarriaza1283hes making a point read what hes saying
I notice you used the Satam Robotnik I put together and edit up on your thumbnail XD
I prefer The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog because the episodes have so much comedy and I remeber Robotnik's famoue catchphrase " I hate that Hedgehog" it cracked me up😀😅😂🤣.
I like Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM) Sonic SatAM is cool.
I've only seen Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog.
I love Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog the most because it is so comical during my childhood.
Sonic satam is so much better
I grew up watching Adventures on Toon Disney when they were doing re-runs, I also have vague memories of watching Underground. I was generally a late Sonic fan, I first met him at my cousins house, they both had a genesis and I first played Sonic 2, and watched them also play Sonic Adventure on Dreamcast. My first system was the N64, so I missed the whole SEGA vs Nintendo war.
I watched Satam back in 2007, its definitely a great show, but I would honestly say I have more affection towards Adventures. Satam is by no means terrible, it got robbed of a 3rd season and it could have been better if more territory was explored. Power Rangers took Sonic's hype away, which is meaningless the more you think about it. Pokemon and DBZ came out quickly and DEMOLISHED Power Rangers. Makes me wonder how things would have played differently if Satam was never cancelled.
Final Verdict: Pingas
Fynn the Fox you should watch Las Tortugas Pingas from Argentina 🇦🇷😂
Aosth is better And aosth robotnik better
But SatAM Robotnik....
Give me nightmare...
Technically, Sally is a chipmunk/squirrel hybrid.
7:41 who I think could have made a great introduction into the games/canon with Forces
I love both but I think I like adventures a little more mostly because of how absolutely over the top and goofy it is
Sonic SatAM is the best Sonic series
^ This.
Now do a version of this that also includes Sonic Underground. Earlier in my life, these three cartoons formed a good bit of what I knew of the series; I couldn't recognise Dr. Eggman when I saw him illustrated in an ad for the Dreamcast games! I did, however, learn more about the various branchs and even saw all three of these cartoons. Now I have a chance to read the entire original run of "Sonic the Comic" and a vast chunck of history of "Archie Comics SatAM".
We do not speak about that abomination
17:02 LOOKS low quality dude.
Tails does become a genius in adventures in later episodes
SatAM is better!
Satam is my Favourite Sonic Series
AOSTH.
I watched both back in the early 90s. I always thought AOSTH was better . SATAM was too serious and not that funny.
yessss and boring sometimes. its like so depressing.
I find that aosth is more accurate to the games and I like it more but I wish it had some more serious moments like in satam.
What did you just say about me
I like aosth slightly more. I just like how weird,funny, and surreal it is. And not to forget all the classic jokes and ytps it created. Satam is a bit overrated but it’s still a pretty good show.
Overrated is harsh. There was so much love put into the show. 25 year comic, the longest for a video game character came from it. People want Sally back and the freedom fighters today. I think underrated would be more accurate.
I have a theory: what if aosth happend before Satam and when robotnick finally took over mobius, sonic took things more serious and soon met the freedom fighters
Theory is kinda off bc sonic and Sally knew each other since childhood and where is the six Ss?
@@pixilatedink.7920 good point
To be honest, i like aosth more than satam sonic.
Mostly it fits more to the game rather than going darker theme.
But i do like satam sonic if aosth have too much weirdness
And aosth robotnik have very goofy eggman voice
Also, PINGAS
Satam was better in every way
Sonic the Saturday Morning cartoon was better.
AOSTH for the win
I'm going to go with
*[Insert Road to El Dorado "Both" Gif Here]*
Both shows are amazing in their own right, but Satam is definitely my favorite of the two. I wish they would have continued making Satam at the time, but at the same Aosth made me laugh lot. Aosth was probably the show to watch if your having a bad day, it's the type of show to make you forget all your worries and just have good time watching. I give two thumbs up to both shows, as a sonic fan.
Adventures is the funny show, Saturday is the story show
Adventures of sonic the HEDGEHOG is better
Long John Baldry. Sounds like a pirate’s name.
Imagine if sonic cartoons was still airing and a special featuring green hill zone and with abandoning the characters except for tails beginning Sonic 2
Fun fact jim Cummings was almost the voice of robotnik in the adventures cartoon he only voiced in the pilot
0:16
EXACTLY