Ben, you were truly an inspiration for all Writers in fiction. You loved your fans, you put so much effort into your work, you had pride in what you did. Truly, I wish that you were around today to lead SEGA in the right direction. You're missed and your work is still remembered as the best. R.I.P, Ben. :'-(
This show may have been short-lived, but it will forever live on in the fans. It sure did in the Archie comic, 23 years after the show ended. Thank you for making something special Ben.
@@TUM_Toons I know. I'm doing that. Because I saw the comic and they don't really follow the notes that was left behind for season 3 let alone even match the style and tone of the show. It feels like it belongs in a comic and like it's not even the same series. And that's what the animation is of. I LIKE it, don't get me wrong. But it feels off to me for being season 3. So I was writing one too and hopefully I can animate it but... that takes forever. lmao I'm gonna be real here. lol
He really did something with that show. He designed this thing that really combined the best of all these genres, instead of just phoning it in like most video-game spin-off TV shows. This show had a real magic to it (especially in the First Season)... and was under-appreciated. Ben Hurst is a true visionary.
ABC college football killed this great series too. As much as I love college football, Sonic was my show growing up. R.I.P Ben Hurst. You were great man.
Screwed by the Network: Despite pulling in solid ratings against Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and being connected to a mega-popular video game series, the show got cancelled for two reasons: one, Disney had just bought ABC and decided to clean house concerning their Saturday lineup (which would lead to One Saturday Morning emerging a couple years later), and many of ABC's stations tended to delay the lineup or preempt it entirely to air local news. As a result, some people didn't see the show until USA Network put it on as part of their Action Extreme Team block.
The thing I still don't get is, from what I remember, Sonic and PR were NEVER in the same time slot. Sonic came on at 7 in the morning while PR came on some time later 8am or 9am). So, Sonic never went head to head with Power Rangers. It just had a really crappy time slot.
What Could Have Been: The show's third season was completely laid out and prepared, and then ABC cancelled it: The Freedom Fighters (now called "Freedom Builders") would have begun the process of rebuilding Mobotropolis, Rotor spearheading the transformation, and Sonic finding that Victory Is Boring. Unbeknown to them, Snively would be sneaking about Robotropolis, gathering intel on the Freedom Fighters and plotting to attack them outright. For a time, Snively is able to place himself in a position of power, proving himself as formidable a foe as Robotnik, if not more so. However, his time as head villain would prove short lived thanks to the efforts of the Freedom Fighters, and in a moment of desperation would free Naugus, Robotnik, and King Acorn from the void. Naugus immediately takes on the title of main villain, using the King as bait to lure Sally in, making Robotnik into his Snively equivalent, and in turn making Snively nothing. Snively was slated to defect to the Freedom Fighters in retaliation, although he would secretly plan to betray them at some point, Antoine being the only one to notice - and ultimately stop - Snively's plans. The show apparently would have eventually confirmed, as some fans had already speculated, that Mobius was Earth All Along, with the story set millennia after a world-purging nuclear war that wiped out humans and caused animals to become sapient. Robotnik and Snively were to be the last humans alive and had been off-planet on a space colonization mission when the war struck. After betraying and killing the rest of their crew, they returned to Earth and, due to relativity, landed after the animals had already assumed control of the planet. Tails would have matured and played a much larger role as an official member of the Freedom Fighters, even showing a bit of a rebellious side and would save Knothole Village from a major disaster. Furthermore, his relationship with Sonic would have been closer to the games. Dulcy would have come into her full powers. All Ben Hurst said about that was, “You don’t want to see a dragon when she gets mad.” Sally would be romanced by someone other than Sonic, though in the end Sonic would eventually come out on top. Sonic would also undergo a major personality change. Nicole's backstory would be told, revealing that she was once a Mobian child that was brainwashed into a computer program by Robotnik. At some point NICOLE would be restored to her former self, becoming a part of the Freedom Fighters. At some point, Knothole would "get crunched". Knuckles was supposed to appear at the end of the season and was going to be more of a main character for an also never made fourth season.
I swear the president of the conpany the aired sonic satam *intentionally* pit it against some tv show that was selling like hotcakes, Oh wait he *did*. The guy hated sonic satam so yep, thanks to that guy we never got Season 3.
@@wiibrockster Is there any source which lists the ratings for the show? Because I haven't come across anything that's week to week, or even talks about season two. The data must exist, but I don't know where it is publicly on the Internet
@@wiibrockster Upon cancellation, the cartoon ranked #9 for all of Saturday Morning with a 5.2 rating, an estimated 4.8 million viewers during its second season, according to the Media Studies Journal, Volume 8, Issues 3-4.
Avery Merrick the source cited for that info seems to come from a journal published in the summer of 1994. If that’s the case, that rating information is for season one, not season two. Using google books isn’t helpful to see the full context, unfortunately
Why there was two Sonic series in 1993: According to Robby London, DiC originally made a deal to produce only the darker, more story-driven Sonic cartoon for ABC to air on Saturday mornings. However, DiC also wanted to go further and produce additional episodes for weekday syndication as well, similar to what DiC has previously done with The Real Ghostbusters, but Mark Pedowitz, the then-senior vice president of business affairs and contracts at ABC, who expected the Sonic cartoon to air exclusively on ABC, rejected the idea, saying that if DiC puts the show in syndication, then it won't be on their network. ABC wouldn't agree to the deal until London came with a proposition that DiC would produce a separate, vastly different Sonic show for syndication instead, the end result of which became Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog.
Think it was cause the ratings were getting lower cause ABC decided to air it at the same time as The Power Rangers. So dumb. But hey because it was cancelled so early I reckon the fan base for it got stronger. Most cancelled series have better fan bases and so many people want SatAM S3 and the freedom fighters to show up and games (Particularly Sally)
He was in the process of trying to revive the attempt to start season 3 of SATam but as soon as he brought a man named Ken Penders on to his team Penders called Sega behind Hurst's back and completely derailed the attempt thus closing the door forever on the third season.
Dreymor Katal even if Hurst didn't get a chance to revive the third season, we can set up a petition to bring them back and finish the cliffhanger once and for all or we can create the third season ourselves without Sega but I need information about Ken Penders
Damn, Ken Penders (according to Francis Jeremy Xavyer (AKA JeremyX) @TheDeltaOtaku from Twitter) "Let's see, going behind Ben Hurst's back to talk to SEGA about a potential season 3 and ruining Hurst's relationship with SEGA...and then suing SEGA and BioWare in 2012 over Sonic Chronicles because he wants to own everything about that world even though he's a bad creator... Lemme put it this way, he's basically a catalyst as to why the comic was canceled and why Sonic games stinks now because of all these BS mandates." Just look up this video at the 3:18 minute mark: th-cam.com/video/oXT7hGbR-vY/w-d-xo.html
Ben, you were truly an inspiration for all Writers in fiction. You loved your fans, you put so much effort into your work, you had pride in what you did. Truly, I wish that you were around today to lead SEGA in the right direction. You're missed and your work is still remembered as the best. R.I.P, Ben. :'-(
Well said...
@@wiibrockster I had a look on the Internet to find out what happened to Ben... diabetes got him at just 49. May he RIP. 😢
This show may have been short-lived, but it will forever live on in the fans. It sure did in the Archie comic, 23 years after the show ended. Thank you for making something special Ben.
It is a shame that Ken Penders killed Ben's attempt on reviving Satam.
He won't kill mine.
And I have bite to back up my bark.
That probably sounded like something Sonic would say. c:
Wait what?
@@Axxidous the fans be making a non canon SatAM Season 3
@@TUM_Toons I know. I'm doing that. Because I saw the comic and they don't really follow the notes that was left behind for season 3 let alone even match the style and tone of the show. It feels like it belongs in a comic and like it's not even the same series. And that's what the animation is of. I LIKE it, don't get me wrong. But it feels off to me for being season 3. So I was writing one too and hopefully I can animate it but... that takes forever. lmao I'm gonna be real here. lol
It's true sadly.
Thank you. You made so many people dream... R.I.P, Ben.
His passion for the series is so inspiring
We love you Ben, Rest In Peace. :(
He really did something with that show. He designed this thing that really combined the best of all these genres, instead of just phoning it in like most video-game spin-off TV shows. This show had a real magic to it (especially in the First Season)... and was under-appreciated. Ben Hurst is a true visionary.
RIP Mr Hurst we miss you but your legacy lives on through us who loved Sonic Satam
ABC college football killed this great series too. As much as I love college football, Sonic was my show growing up. R.I.P Ben Hurst. You were great man.
Kevin Paige it’s a bunch of armatures playing a rinsed version of rugby
Those two dislikes are Ken penders,and the person Ken penders was holding at gun point
Nah, they’re both Tamers12345
@@115zombies935 I HATE Tamers12345 SO MUCH! He disgraces Sonic Underground's fandom! He thinks Sonic and Bartleby are in love!
@@Angie2343 Tamers is based, and it’s just a fact that they are in love
@@115zombies935 No, they're not. Watch the show again.
@@Angie2343 I rewatch Tamer’s sonic underground every week. It gets better every time!
R.I.P. Ben Hurst I wish you could have finished this series...
We can re-create his dream for the future no matter what
@Bullet you mean team sea3on? Because they already exist, and are working hard
and that dream is now :D
R.I.P.
Dang bro lived and breathed this series
R.i.p Ben hurst
When I watch that show, it was just amazing of how they done
I truly miss ben hurst so much….
Screwed by the Network: Despite pulling in solid ratings against Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and being connected to a mega-popular video game series, the show got cancelled for two reasons: one, Disney had just bought ABC and decided to clean house concerning their Saturday lineup (which would lead to One Saturday Morning emerging a couple years later), and many of ABC's stations tended to delay the lineup or preempt it entirely to air local news. As a result, some people didn't see the show until USA Network put it on as part of their Action Extreme Team block.
The thing I still don't get is, from what I remember, Sonic and PR were NEVER in the same time slot. Sonic came on at 7 in the morning while PR came on some time later 8am or 9am). So, Sonic never went head to head with Power Rangers. It just had a really crappy time slot.
@@Elric_Winchester
Both shows did in the 1994-95 season.
WE MISS YOU, BEN! Sonic Underground wouldn't be the same without you.
What Could Have Been:
The show's third season was completely laid out and prepared, and then ABC cancelled it:
The Freedom Fighters (now called "Freedom Builders") would have begun the process of rebuilding Mobotropolis, Rotor spearheading the transformation, and Sonic finding that Victory Is Boring. Unbeknown to them, Snively would be sneaking about Robotropolis, gathering intel on the Freedom Fighters and plotting to attack them outright. For a time, Snively is able to place himself in a position of power, proving himself as formidable a foe as Robotnik, if not more so. However, his time as head villain would prove short lived thanks to the efforts of the Freedom Fighters, and in a moment of desperation would free Naugus, Robotnik, and King Acorn from the void. Naugus immediately takes on the title of main villain, using the King as bait to lure Sally in, making Robotnik into his Snively equivalent, and in turn making Snively nothing. Snively was slated to defect to the Freedom Fighters in retaliation, although he would secretly plan to betray them at some point, Antoine being the only one to notice - and ultimately stop - Snively's plans.
The show apparently would have eventually confirmed, as some fans had already speculated, that Mobius was Earth All Along, with the story set millennia after a world-purging nuclear war that wiped out humans and caused animals to become sapient. Robotnik and Snively were to be the last humans alive and had been off-planet on a space colonization mission when the war struck. After betraying and killing the rest of their crew, they returned to Earth and, due to relativity, landed after the animals had already assumed control of the planet.
Tails would have matured and played a much larger role as an official member of the Freedom Fighters, even showing a bit of a rebellious side and would save Knothole Village from a major disaster. Furthermore, his relationship with Sonic would have been closer to the games.
Dulcy would have come into her full powers. All Ben Hurst said about that was, “You don’t want to see a dragon when she gets mad.”
Sally would be romanced by someone other than Sonic, though in the end Sonic would eventually come out on top. Sonic would also undergo a major personality change.
Nicole's backstory would be told, revealing that she was once a Mobian child that was brainwashed into a computer program by Robotnik. At some point NICOLE would be restored to her former self, becoming a part of the Freedom Fighters.
At some point, Knothole would "get crunched".
Knuckles was supposed to appear at the end of the season and was going to be more of a main character for an also never made fourth season.
They were literally sitting on a gold mine and they decided to shit on it
Yeah that sounds like a dream series Sonic SatAM is my favorite animated version of the character. Where did you get your information from
@@superdudex17 TV Tropes.
@@averymerrick excuse me sir, i heard he already have some small ideas for the season 4, do you know something about it?
I've seen this many times on dvd and i don't remember the part after the credits.
I had exchanged emails with him before i started my voice acting . He will always be a inspiration
What if Ben Hurst Was Still Alive And Then He Would Not Been Died In August 10, 2010
I swear the president of the conpany the aired sonic satam *intentionally* pit it against some tv show that was selling like hotcakes, Oh wait he *did*. The guy hated sonic satam so yep, thanks to that guy we never got Season 3.
Satam still pulled despite great ratings despite compeating with MMPR
@@wiibrockster Is there any source which lists the ratings for the show? Because I haven't come across anything that's week to week, or even talks about season two. The data must exist, but I don't know where it is publicly on the Internet
@@dtlurker FOUND YOU FAKER!
@@wiibrockster
Upon cancellation, the cartoon ranked #9 for all of Saturday Morning with a 5.2 rating, an estimated 4.8 million viewers during its second season, according to the Media Studies Journal, Volume 8, Issues 3-4.
Avery Merrick the source cited for that info seems to come from a journal published in the summer of 1994. If that’s the case, that rating information is for season one, not season two. Using google books isn’t helpful to see the full context, unfortunately
Please complete Ben’s vision. Not these United Satams Fans comics which are not canon (despte what they claim)
It’s basically STCO (Sonic The Comic Online)
Why there was two Sonic series in 1993:
According to Robby London, DiC originally made a deal to produce only the darker, more story-driven Sonic cartoon for ABC to air on Saturday mornings. However, DiC also wanted to go further and produce additional episodes for weekday syndication as well, similar to what DiC has previously done with The Real Ghostbusters, but Mark Pedowitz, the then-senior vice president of business affairs and contracts at ABC, who expected the Sonic cartoon to air exclusively on ABC, rejected the idea, saying that if DiC puts the show in syndication, then it won't be on their network. ABC wouldn't agree to the deal until London came with a proposition that DiC would produce a separate, vastly different Sonic show for syndication instead, the end result of which became Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog.
R.i.p Sonic satam
There was no excuse to cancel SonicSatam if ABC allowed a show like Madeline in their lineup the next season.
especially since both shows were made by the same company.
Think it was cause the ratings were getting lower cause ABC decided to air it at the same time as The Power Rangers. So dumb. But hey because it was cancelled so early I reckon the fan base for it got stronger. Most cancelled series have better fan bases and so many people want SatAM S3 and the freedom fighters to show up and games (Particularly Sally)
@@zbazza6978z nonsense
The ratings were doing just fine
Thank you for posting this
It sucks that Pender put a stop to Hurst bringing back SATAM. The Jerk.
Did Ben Hurst make any information about the third season of sonic Satam before he died god rest his soul
He was in the process of trying to revive the attempt to start season 3 of SATam but as soon as he brought a man named Ken Penders on to his team Penders called Sega behind Hurst's back and completely derailed the attempt thus closing the door forever on the third season.
Dreymor Katal even if Hurst didn't get a chance to revive the third season, we can set up a petition to bring them back and finish the cliffhanger once and for all or we can create the third season ourselves without Sega but I need information about Ken Penders
I almost forgot, do you know where Ken Penders live and how I can contact him thanks
Byron Dunbar thanks mate
Rip.
ben hurst was so good at writing U_U
Come on Everyone lets convince Sega to make a 3rd season and make Ben Hurst proud it was his dream after all
th-cam.com/channels/qt_nJIqqXLX2avpnoxmpMA.html
Damn, Ken Penders (according to Francis Jeremy Xavyer (AKA JeremyX)
@TheDeltaOtaku from Twitter)
"Let's see, going behind Ben Hurst's back to talk to SEGA about a potential season 3 and ruining Hurst's relationship with SEGA...and then suing SEGA and BioWare in 2012 over Sonic Chronicles because he wants to own everything about that world even though he's a bad creator... Lemme put it this way, he's basically a catalyst as to why the comic was canceled and why Sonic games stinks now because of all these BS mandates."
Just look up this video at the 3:18 minute mark: th-cam.com/video/oXT7hGbR-vY/w-d-xo.html
Sad this series never concluded, it’s clear that a lot of stuff was planned to happen.
Same for Sonic Underground.
Canceling Sonic for sports= mega fail for TV network
AWESOME
Mario disliked this
Or Ken Penders.
Maybe both
@@GrantDaily who’s that?
@@sliat1981 he was writer of the archie comics in the early 2000’s
Amazing after all those years of void! This series l mostly affected me as a child. I did not like the other sonic tv series
Where is that interview from?
Thanks
I have a question, Ben Hurst. Why does Princess Sally always wear her boots?
He died in 2010.
@404 TV That explains it.
@@EddieKyteABCDEFG12345678910 It's easier to draw. Remember that you have to draw her thousands of times.
He's in the afterlife at the moment.
@@Angie2343 I have a question: Why didn't you comment on the "Tickled Pink" video I made?
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