When using the Fennec, I recommend using the P890 as your secondary, since they both fire the same round, they will share ammo and will therefore give you some extra ammo per life
@@thelittledetailscr7231 I think the point isn't to have a secondary to swap to, just to give you more fennec ammo before you have to swap to a ground weapon if you're poppin off
From personal experience, it's way too easy to run out of ammo when using the Double Tap mod, even more so than the Fennec normally does. I'd recommend running the P890 as your secondary. If you add the 12rnd Mag and Akimbo to it, you get an extra 4 mags for your DT Fennec (72 Reserve vs the normal 24) This extra ammo may let you get away with not running scavenger, which is normally a must-have with the Double Tap Fennec! Great Video as Always!
11:01 I see you Ace! I love those flash grenade transitions you throw in there sometimes. The little bits of effort are really impressive to see from someone that works so hard on everything else.
Flash hiders are really underrated in this game, one that helps with recoil steadiness would be better with this gun imo. They actually provide recoil bonuses, like recoil stabilization that helps with visual recoil and side to side bounce, and/or recoil steadiness that helps with vertical recoil control like the vertical grips. The actual flash hider part is really good too: makes visibility while shooting a lot better and makes the gun more pleasant to shoot because of that, while the muzzle breaks can be pretty harsh with their muzzle flash and general shakiness of the gun and camera
Flash hiders have potential but the atrocious attachment balance and brutaly punishing stat trade-offs just make em unusable sadly. We need a flash hider that only hides flash and is free/super tiny downside.
If you pair the no stock with the phase 3 grip, you gain speed and sprint out without harming recoil at all, it’s actually one of the options I use consistently with it
The vector is my favorite gun. Thank you for taking time to make these gun guides. I can imagine that they take a really long time to make so I hope you are still taking care of yourself
Thanks so much man ! Your dedication and patience towards those videos are simply outstanding ! Big shoot out to you ... The back end work must be draining and probably very underrated .. Been following you since WII and pretty much not missing one since ! Hats off man and huge thanks for what you are doing for the community !
The most important part about the burst mag is the ability to one burst of both shots are headshots within the provided ranges. It feels like using a shotgun sometimes because you just pull the trigger and people die
Because of the high rate of fire I think you'd much prefer recoil control over damage range since 1 extra bullet to kill isn't that big of a deal when your rpm is almost 1100
Correct, and I don't feel like any of the barrels are worth using on this gun. The only thing they may give that is nice is bullet velocity but doubt it's enough to be worth the ads speed decrease. Actually most of the guns I've used so far I haven't had a barrel on.
Honestly I think the PDSW is more reliable than the Fennec overall. Only slightly slower than the Fennec in both TTK and movement but the recoil is like half of the Fennec so it's way more forgiving and on average, you'll probably kill quicker with the PDSW.
The Fennec 45 was the gun I had my best games with the weekend on Shipment. It's just so snappy and it's ttk seemed to be the most consistently fast. Everything else was pretty indicernable with a crazy outlier being the Raall MG with the canted laser sight. A little bit of play adjustment and if you got in my way with that thing it was over for you. I had my biggest games with that thing and it was fun as hell. Also fun was the Bryson 800 and Deagle after grinding all auto weapons.
I just wish they would make the body of the gun, the part ahead of the trigger, as thick as the vector actually is. That’s where the mechanical magic of the vector lies. The counter weight that mitigates most of the recoil as it cycles through rounds after each shot.
@@luisrosario3781 see the thing is, back in MW2019, Infinity Ward was approached by KRISS (the manufacturer of said, Vector) and allowed them to use the model and official name for the gun, completely free of charge IW declined. Why? They had already made the model and weren't going back
@@Flour-4 Hmmm... Interesting. I just found it strange that a huge bulk of the weapons in MW2 (2022) don't have their respective names, barring the M4, M16, and a few others that I'm forgetting. It's interesting that you mentioned that because the Vector made several appearances before MW (2019) under its respective name, such as the OG MW2, BO2, and Ghosts.
@@luisrosario3781 in MW2 many weapons were given fake names due tol lawsuit concerns Recently a lawsuit regarding real firearms in video games "promoting" the use and exposure of guns to younger audiences caused Remington (I'm sure you've heard of them at some point), to go bankrupt, resulting in many firearms manufacturers withdrawing their rights in mainstream titles such as CoD It's a weird case and the reasoning behind most weapons being given phony-ass names in MW2, I find it more confusing how the M4, M16 etc got off the hook lol
I used the Double Tap attachment. It's great for flanking/ninja stealth build. I would add Scavenger or Munitions Box. I had fun using the Double Tap, currently for the 1st battle pass in A10 there's a Fennec blueprint called Hacksaw it has the Double Tap attachment
I was waiting for you to cover this gun! Thanks for talking about the double tap mod it is bu far my favourite setup in the game but is the magazine small boy oh boy!
The fennec is very fun, I used the double tap mod when going for longshots. But thought that it kinda sucked at longer ranges and I see why now, it's weird that it gives you a great boost to your ranges but makes it terrible at long range. I feel like it at least should have kept a good headshot multiplyr at range
@@TheXclusiveAce With a full move speed build on the vector (3 ms attachments + double time) I am still getting passed by knife players, perhaps the attachments are lying/bugged? I seem to recall this happening a lot in 2019
The Fennec is an amazing gun and possibly the most fun to shoot. I can't count the times I hear "no way" or "whhaaatt the“ from the other killed players. Smokes them. Great videos XA always eager to watch.
You finally made a vid on my secret weapon. I used the burst fire to complete the 50 long range SMG kills for the prestige 1 Mastery and never turned back. The hacksaw blueprint comes almost perfectly kitted for this challenge. Love this gun
Once I’m done leveling up all the guns (just have the snipers left to level up), I’ll make my class with this one using double tap. It feels really nice and that 2 round burst goes out incredibly fast and follow up bursts are fast as well.
I love using this thing as a hipfire machine. Take off the stock, use the Merc (or similar) Foregrip, Hipfire Laser (the one that helps both hipfire and sprint out), 45 round mag and the Covert Ops Barrel, and this thing shreds. Plus you are super fast, which can make you an absolute terror on small maps (or on big maps, if you can flank well).
Ace, thanks for this video. I've been trying to get the "50 longshots with SMGs" prestige challenge done and have been struggling for a while with landing shots at the necessary range in this game. After watching this I got the Fennec blueprint from the Battlepass with the Double Tap mod (I think it's called Hacksaw) and tried that, but kept getting killed before I could land a second or third burst - that is until I tried putting it in single fire mode. Suddenly I'm able to land 2-4 shots to the head/neck or upper torso seemingly faster than I was able to fire 2 bursts. I don't have the Fennec leveled enough to play around with attachments, but with this blueprint as it is it has an ADS speed that feels like a marksman rifle with damage similar to a battle rifle with a fire rate cap that seems to be faster than I can pull the trigger (for context I play with controller on Xbox with the triggers flipped so my finger only has to move as far as it takes to click the shoulder button). It also has very little flinch due to being an SMG and if someone gets too close I don't even ADS because the hip fire is good enough I can just rapidly pull the trigger with my crosshairs over them and win the fight against pretty much anyone who isn't using a shotgun. It reminds me a lot of the FAL from MW2019 before they fixed the Merc foregrip and nerfed the No Stock attachment. As long as you are using it at reasonable ranges it feels like both a sniper and a sniper support weapon. The biggest downside is the ammo capacity. In three matches (about 30 minutes) I went from having 22/50 longshots to 38/50 longshots, so if you are struggling with the SMG longshot challenge like I have been and are confident in your trigger finger I highly recommend trying the Fennec with the Double Tap mod in single fire mode. I hope this helps, and good luck.
Range fennec: use the burst attachments but replace the muzzle with the ZLR 16.5 barrel. Better range and bullet velocity along with not loosing pretty much any ads time
I love to turn the fennec into a long boi, especially in warzone. Basically the "Hacksaw" blueprint but with the 45 round mag. Not rly an smg anymore, but damn it looks good and feels good (apart from the horrible ads speed).
I maxed the fennec out with the pro tuned double version. Definitely was one favorite guns to use so far. Have not used it in war zone yet, but I’m probably.y going try it out over the next couple days.
Love the double tap mod, deletes people so quick The base recoil pattern looks so different it could be two different guns. Seems to have a higher than usually variance On a side note, I’ve noticed few of the suggested builds have a barrel which is a shame since that was so big in mw2019. The negatives are too punishing
For some reason it feels like it’s better than the MW2019 version. It felt really good to use but could use some small buffs. The 8 shot kills need to be removed and the headshot multiplier could use a slight buff. The double tap mod also needs that weird last damage drop off fixed so it doesn’t take so many shots
Burst-fire smg connoisseur here, Liked the burst mode in mw19, like it even more in this game. I miss the ability to snipe people with it (didn't lose its 4 hit kill potential in mw19 at even countersnipe ranges iirc) but it's a bit more balanced all around now. Doesn't hurt that it's much harder to keep a good ads speed with other builds... that being said I do think that going straight from 4 hits to 8 is overkill. Burst smgs are so niche that they really didn't have to keep it in check any more, the 12 round mag is enough
I hope you cover the FTAC first in the battle rifle line. I made a very fun and effective build where I built it towards speed (aim down sight speed and sprint to fire speed).
It wasn’t mentioned but based on the stats. It appears you can get a 2 shot kill with the Double Tap Mod with headshots. With some math it appears 55ms would be the 2 shot ttk.
Try the Fennec "Hacksaw" blueprint, it's the only SMG build with a "Sniper" pro tune and it really does reach out and touch people much much farther and more accurate than most SMG builds.
Ok, question: If we modify the bullet velocity of a subsonic gun (we put a longer barrel, or a supressor that increases bullet velocity, or high velocity ammo) will we lose the subsonic benefits (no tracers, enemy skulls not showing)?
I believe Ace tested this and found that you in fact do NOT lose the Subsonic Benefit, no matter what Attachments you put on a gun that's already Subsonic by default. I could be wrong on this, take it with a grain of salt, but iirc, that's the case with all Weapons that are already Subsonic.
I do LOVE the Fennec. It and Hurricane are my two favorite SMG's in the game. Double tap can be an interesting way to run the gun, though I tend to run it with one of the longer barrels. I've also been seeing most players that run SMG's are using the fennec in my personal experience. Either the Fennec, MP7 or MP5. In that order usually. The P90 and hurricane don't come up that often, but do pop up now and again. And I never see anyone using the BAS-P. Not that I blame them. The thing needs a buff somewhere, it gets outclassed by everything. I still haven't even ground out the levels because I just die so much.
Since I unlocked it I don't use anything else except when playing more open maps where I like the M4. To be honest I'm surprised more people aren't using the Fennec
i like running the longest barrel available and suppressor that increasea range to extend the 4 and 5 shot kill range as much as possible. downside is ads is atrocious but if u can deal with the ads it absolutely shreds. as soon as i started using it i started going off hitting 20+ killstreaks multiple times.
I was struggling with this gun and I stopped upgrading it at level 20. Can't quite put my finger on the issue but I was having way more fun with the G3
Ace: "I think this gun is underrated. I don't see too many people using it. But all I see is 10 out of 12 people in the lobby running around with gold Fennecs.
This has been my go to gun for any small to med size map. For Shoothouse, I was destroying people. You do have to have the 45rnd mag though. Its useless otherwise. This is also for aggressive playing. If you like to charge into objectives and run around a map, this is your gun. If you’re a more lay back and hold corners player, stick with assault rifles.
Except the model they made is like the Vector's inbred cousin. No way that recoil system would fit in that tiny space behind the magazine in this game lol
Do we know if the barrels have the same range increases when using the double tap mod? Thinking about the 16.5 barrel plus double tap for doing my plat longshots...
Are you considering doing more attachment breakdowns? For example muzzle attachments and their ads and range properties? With the fennec the question is what range values silencers give versus barrels as the barrels make it quite slow.
The fennec was the last smg I got gold, and it was after the bas-p had already come out, so I actually unlocked platinum on it before I even finished leveling it up, using the double tap mod lol
hey... want to know what runs faster than fenec and knife combined ? make a custom weapon blueprint using already excisting one, use your own parts and tunings, save it, use it on your loadout, now it should say that you are using the "pro -tuned" tunings on your own loadout, go to firing range and the weapon will most likely load in as an invalid weapon and not load and you can move around unarmed, works the best with mp7s myth maker BB, the game permanently unloads you primary tho until you switch loadouts/make it just the base gun just a word of warning
Yo Ace, I love your videos! I'm curious if you could do a video on whether or not the "casual/objective/high kills" lobby options make ANY difference whatsoever? I am a father, a coach, and I work full-time. I love parts of the game but have found it difficult to enjoy because the lobbies I am in are not casual by any means. Thanks man!!
Love/hate the double tap mod. Up close is cool, but anything past 30m requires absolutely perfect aim while on the move or you'll get pasted! Plus, the slow bullet velocity doesn't help at more medium ranges where an opponent is running fast. Also, chews through that 12-round mag pretty quickly and then you're reloading yet again (and, as we saw, the reload speed isn't the best).
When using the Fennec, I recommend using the P890 as your secondary, since they both fire the same round, they will share ammo and will therefore give you some extra ammo per life
This is good to know
Wouldn't you want to avoid using them together since they pull from the same ammo pool? So, if you run out with one, you run out with the other?
@@thelittledetailscr7231 that’s only if your gonna be using both weapons frequently
@@thelittledetailscr7231how often are you gonna be using the secondary anyways? Just treat it as an additional ammo reserve. Lol
@@thelittledetailscr7231 I think the point isn't to have a secondary to swap to, just to give you more fennec ammo before you have to swap to a ground weapon if you're poppin off
From personal experience, it's way too easy to run out of ammo when using the Double Tap mod, even more so than the Fennec normally does. I'd recommend running the P890 as your secondary. If you add the 12rnd Mag and Akimbo to it, you get an extra 4 mags for your DT Fennec (72 Reserve vs the normal 24) This extra ammo may let you get away with not running scavenger, which is normally a must-have with the Double Tap Fennec! Great Video as Always!
Man, the akimbo P890s are absolute monsters. They are just ridiclous in CQC
@@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer He's saying run Akimbo to have the extra ammo for the Fennec.
@@CentrifuzeI mean still he’s not wrong
Ah yes, the KRISS Vector, Faster SMG in any Game there is, along with some other Fast SMGs like Skorpion EVO, Mac10, and maybe some other SMG
I really feel like the double tap mod (in both mw-‘19 and mw2-‘22) is more for SnD than respawn. Just my opinion
Adding those vertical lines to the recoil plots is a nice touch, thanks for that
11:01 I see you Ace! I love those flash grenade transitions you throw in there sometimes. The little bits of effort are really impressive to see from someone that works so hard on everything else.
It’s crazy to me Ace hasn’t hit the 1mil mark yet, this is my favorite CoD TH-camr 🥰
I know right. No one puts in quite the effort that he does
@@DS3Enjoyer TrueGameData?
I can explain why
@@bobdarrick2628 Why
Stats are a niche subject that most players aren't really interested in.
Nice, Battle Rifles next, that's what I've been waiting for
Flash hiders are really underrated in this game, one that helps with recoil steadiness would be better with this gun imo. They actually provide recoil bonuses, like recoil stabilization that helps with visual recoil and side to side bounce, and/or recoil steadiness that helps with vertical recoil control like the vertical grips. The actual flash hider part is really good too: makes visibility while shooting a lot better and makes the gun more pleasant to shoot because of that, while the muzzle breaks can be pretty harsh with their muzzle flash and general shakiness of the gun and camera
Flash hiders have potential but the atrocious attachment balance and brutaly punishing stat trade-offs just make em unusable sadly. We need a flash hider that only hides flash and is free/super tiny downside.
Does anyone know what the ADS penalty on flash hiders are, though?
@Willow i bet its like 60ms 😂
Honestly I'm kinda confused why Ace puts a muzzle break on every loadout. They don't really seem to do enough to warrant the hit to ADS speed.
@@Scroolewse Casual console players need more help controlling recoil
the TTK on this thing up-close is crazy!
If you hit your headshots then. It shreds even more.
If you pair the no stock with the phase 3 grip, you gain speed and sprint out without harming recoil at all, it’s actually one of the options I use consistently with it
Op.
No, that stock destroys your recoil and there's no compensating for it
@@highermedia no it doesn’t you must be bad
It definitely affects your recoil. Depends what range you want to hit at
@@Chiz1992 if you can’t hit from thirty meters w the no stock you’re bad the gun is literally just all straight recoil
I maxed this last night. It was a lot better than I thought it would be.
The vector is my favorite gun. Thank you for taking time to make these gun guides. I can imagine that they take a really long time to make so I hope you are still taking care of yourself
I think this Fennec really does the mighty Vector dirty especially with its rear grip and it also sounds weird as hell
Going to the range to drop some freedom seeds with mine today. It really is a great firearm.
Thanks so much man ! Your dedication and patience towards those videos are simply outstanding ! Big shoot out to you ... The back end work must be draining and probably very underrated ..
Been following you since WII and pretty much not missing one since ! Hats off man and huge thanks for what you are doing for the community !
The most important part about the burst mag is the ability to one burst of both shots are headshots within the provided ranges. It feels like using a shotgun sometimes because you just pull the trigger and people die
Because of the high rate of fire I think you'd much prefer recoil control over damage range since 1 extra bullet to kill isn't that big of a deal when your rpm is almost 1100
Correct, and I don't feel like any of the barrels are worth using on this gun. The only thing they may give that is nice is bullet velocity but doubt it's enough to be worth the ads speed decrease. Actually most of the guns I've used so far I haven't had a barrel on.
Could say the same thing abt missing 1 or 2 shots. Recoil is low for me
@@tatri292 Well the 8.5 inch might be worth it for the slight boost to ADS speed with a minimal hit to recoil.
I mean, technically the gun is based on the KRISS vector so the recoil should be better than you'd expect
Honestly I think the PDSW is more reliable than the Fennec overall. Only slightly slower than the Fennec in both TTK and movement but the recoil is like half of the Fennec so it's way more forgiving and on average, you'll probably kill quicker with the PDSW.
I think it would be nice to know how the barrels and magazines impact movement speed just as you did in mw2019 gun guide. Keep up the great work!
The Fennec 45 was the gun I had my best games with the weekend on Shipment. It's just so snappy and it's ttk seemed to be the most consistently fast.
Everything else was pretty indicernable with a crazy outlier being the Raall MG with the canted laser sight. A little bit of play adjustment and if you got in my way with that thing it was over for you. I had my biggest games with that thing and it was fun as hell.
Also fun was the Bryson 800 and Deagle after grinding all auto weapons.
It makes me so happy that the vector is dominant in this game, always used this gun against ump users back on the og MW2
Is there currently an SMG in MW2 that is based on the UMP?
@Noobsmasher69 well they kind of did in MW 2019 but it wasn't based on the actual UMP and it was not really good
@@fuzzynuttz5092 that thing is such a pos in real life
Crutch SMG.
Uzi was banned in pro/esport in MW2, now its the Vector
Best cod TH-camr. No waffle or bs …. Or kid talk. Hard facts.
I just wish they would make the body of the gun, the part ahead of the trigger, as thick as the vector actually is. That’s where the mechanical magic of the vector lies. The counter weight that mitigates most of the recoil as it cycles through rounds after each shot.
I do agree that they should've made the receiver thicker, but I do quite like the thinner, sleeker look, even if it makes NO FRIGGIN SENSE-
Maybe certain trademarks or copyright reasons? Maybe the same reason that the name "Fennec 45" is used in place of "Vector"?
@@luisrosario3781 see the thing is, back in MW2019, Infinity Ward was approached by KRISS (the manufacturer of said, Vector) and allowed them to use the model and official name for the gun, completely free of charge
IW declined. Why? They had already made the model and weren't going back
@@Flour-4 Hmmm... Interesting. I just found it strange that a huge bulk of the weapons in MW2 (2022) don't have their respective names, barring the M4, M16, and a few others that I'm forgetting.
It's interesting that you mentioned that because the Vector made several appearances before MW (2019) under its respective name, such as the OG MW2, BO2, and Ghosts.
@@luisrosario3781 in MW2 many weapons were given fake names due tol lawsuit concerns
Recently a lawsuit regarding real firearms in video games "promoting" the use and exposure of guns to younger audiences caused Remington (I'm sure you've heard of them at some point), to go bankrupt, resulting in many firearms manufacturers withdrawing their rights in mainstream titles such as CoD
It's a weird case and the reasoning behind most weapons being given phony-ass names in MW2, I find it more confusing how the M4, M16 etc got off the hook lol
I almost always just listen to these and look at the charts, well I looked near the end and saw Ace himself and you’re a handsome guy 👍
I used the Double Tap attachment. It's great for flanking/ninja stealth build. I would add Scavenger or Munitions Box. I had fun using the Double Tap, currently for the 1st battle pass in A10 there's a Fennec blueprint called Hacksaw it has the Double Tap attachment
I was waiting for you to cover this gun! Thanks for talking about the double tap mod it is bu far my favourite setup in the game but is the magazine small boy oh boy!
The fennec is very fun, I used the double tap mod when going for longshots. But thought that it kinda sucked at longer ranges and I see why now, it's weird that it gives you a great boost to your ranges but makes it terrible at long range. I feel like it at least should have kept a good headshot multiplyr at range
is move speed calculated by primary + secondary is does it only matter what you are actively holding?
Gun in hand is all that matters
@@TheXclusiveAce With a full move speed build on the vector (3 ms attachments + double time) I am still getting passed by knife players, perhaps the attachments are lying/bugged? I seem to recall this happening a lot in 2019
@@deecolon3236 The knife is faster in Tac Sprint but not regular sprint unless they buffed the knife with the S1 Reloaded update.
This thing shreds up close
The Fennec is an amazing gun and possibly the most fun to shoot. I can't count the times I hear "no way" or "whhaaatt the“ from the other killed players. Smokes them. Great videos XA always eager to watch.
Will say I was hoping to see a hip fire build for this though, just cause it's so fast with everything. Thank you for all the other info on it!
You finally made a vid on my secret weapon. I used the burst fire to complete the 50 long range SMG kills for the prestige 1 Mastery and never turned back. The hacksaw blueprint comes almost perfectly kitted for this challenge. Love this gun
Thanks! Been waiting for this.
Once I’m done leveling up all the guns (just have the snipers left to level up), I’ll make my class with this one using double tap. It feels really nice and that 2 round burst goes out incredibly fast and follow up bursts are fast as well.
Another awesome video by ace !
Love this gun, it's my go to gun and the first one I got gold for. Loved the vector from the og MW2 so happy to see it back!
I love using this thing as a hipfire machine. Take off the stock, use the Merc (or similar) Foregrip, Hipfire Laser (the one that helps both hipfire and sprint out), 45 round mag and the Covert Ops Barrel, and this thing shreds. Plus you are super fast, which can make you an absolute terror on small maps (or on big maps, if you can flank well).
Ace, thanks for this video. I've been trying to get the "50 longshots with SMGs" prestige challenge done and have been struggling for a while with landing shots at the necessary range in this game. After watching this I got the Fennec blueprint from the Battlepass with the Double Tap mod (I think it's called Hacksaw) and tried that, but kept getting killed before I could land a second or third burst - that is until I tried putting it in single fire mode. Suddenly I'm able to land 2-4 shots to the head/neck or upper torso seemingly faster than I was able to fire 2 bursts. I don't have the Fennec leveled enough to play around with attachments, but with this blueprint as it is it has an ADS speed that feels like a marksman rifle with damage similar to a battle rifle with a fire rate cap that seems to be faster than I can pull the trigger (for context I play with controller on Xbox with the triggers flipped so my finger only has to move as far as it takes to click the shoulder button). It also has very little flinch due to being an SMG and if someone gets too close I don't even ADS because the hip fire is good enough I can just rapidly pull the trigger with my crosshairs over them and win the fight against pretty much anyone who isn't using a shotgun. It reminds me a lot of the FAL from MW2019 before they fixed the Merc foregrip and nerfed the No Stock attachment. As long as you are using it at reasonable ranges it feels like both a sniper and a sniper support weapon. The biggest downside is the ammo capacity. In three matches (about 30 minutes) I went from having 22/50 longshots to 38/50 longshots, so if you are struggling with the SMG longshot challenge like I have been and are confident in your trigger finger I highly recommend trying the Fennec with the Double Tap mod in single fire mode. I hope this helps, and good luck.
You put so much work into the vids!!
thank you for breaking down the double tap mod. definitely gonna try it out now 💯
Range fennec: use the burst attachments but replace the muzzle with the ZLR 16.5 barrel. Better range and bullet velocity along with not loosing pretty much any ads time
Surprised he didn't give a hip fire build, I've been having a lot of fun using like that, surprisingly accurate
I do the same. Hip fire high speed build is hilarious
I love to turn the fennec into a long boi, especially in warzone. Basically the "Hacksaw" blueprint but with the 45 round mag. Not rly an smg anymore, but damn it looks good and feels good (apart from the horrible ads speed).
I maxed the fennec out with the pro tuned double version. Definitely was one favorite guns to use so far. Have not used it in war zone yet, but I’m probably.y going try it out over the next couple days.
I think the two major reasons mire people don’t use them is the fact that our operators only carry two spare clips and that the reload that’s forever.
the fennec and lachman sub has my favorite sounds of gunfire in this game
Love the double tap mod, deletes people so quick
The base recoil pattern looks so different it could be two different guns. Seems to have a higher than usually variance
On a side note, I’ve noticed few of the suggested builds have a barrel which is a shame since that was so big in mw2019. The negatives are too punishing
Nice to know it has the fastest ADS speed because that means you can use more bullet velocity attachments to compensate and make it more well rounded.
Thx Ace. Love the fennec.
Fennec is one of my all time favorite SMGs
For some reason it feels like it’s better than the MW2019 version. It felt really good to use but could use some small buffs. The 8 shot kills need to be removed and the headshot multiplier could use a slight buff. The double tap mod also needs that weird last damage drop off fixed so it doesn’t take so many shots
Love this gun!!! Straight up bullet hose. Recoil reduction attachments make it spit hate real steady.
Burst-fire smg connoisseur here, Liked the burst mode in mw19, like it even more in this game. I miss the ability to snipe people with it (didn't lose its 4 hit kill potential in mw19 at even countersnipe ranges iirc) but it's a bit more balanced all around now. Doesn't hurt that it's much harder to keep a good ads speed with other builds... that being said I do think that going straight from 4 hits to 8 is overkill. Burst smgs are so niche that they really didn't have to keep it in check any more, the 12 round mag is enough
I haven’t tried the double tap mod but I love this gun it’s so much fun to use.
I hope you cover the FTAC first in the battle rifle line. I made a very fun and effective build where I built it towards speed (aim down sight speed and sprint to fire speed).
It wasn’t mentioned but based on the stats. It appears you can get a 2 shot kill with the Double Tap Mod with headshots. With some math it appears 55ms would be the 2 shot ttk.
It can be with 1 headshot and an upper torso shot aswell. Suprised it wasn’t mentioned.
Great Content!. It would be cool if you had a summary video. The SMG with the best range, each movement, etc.
I've loved using the double tap mod
The Lead Laser.
That’s what I call my Fennec.
Also, the RAAL with the setup I have is called the Lead Dozer.
The TTK values check out. I remember losing gunfights with ARs at quite a distance so it makes a lot of sense now
Try the Fennec "Hacksaw" blueprint, it's the only SMG build with a "Sniper" pro tune and it really does reach out and touch people much much farther and more accurate than most SMG builds.
The ADS penalties are so ridiculous in this game - they clearly don’t want people really moving around/playing aggressively
i mean, if you're sprinting around that much, should be easy to close that distance, so you don't need the range
yet it's still doable.
Honestly not had a problem with this at all, if anything I'm able to play more aggressively in this COD
@lunchpin I agree I really like the changes they've made to this game alot. I definitely can afford to be more aggressive then in MW2019
They just don't want people running around with Lazer accurate weapons with insane ads...
The double tap attachment is no joke. Shit melts
Double tap was a god send when it came to getting longshots with it.
been waiting for this!
Ok, question: If we modify the bullet velocity of a subsonic gun (we put a longer barrel, or a supressor that increases bullet velocity, or high velocity ammo) will we lose the subsonic benefits (no tracers, enemy skulls not showing)?
I believe Ace tested this and found that you in fact do NOT lose the Subsonic Benefit, no matter what Attachments you put on a gun that's already Subsonic by default. I could be wrong on this, take it with a grain of salt, but iirc, that's the case with all Weapons that are already Subsonic.
AGREE. The mag mod made leveling this a lot better.
double tap mod set up for max aim walk speed is insanely fun on this weapon
The 2 shot burst available on this gives me hope we might get the AN-94 at some point.
I do LOVE the Fennec. It and Hurricane are my two favorite SMG's in the game. Double tap can be an interesting way to run the gun, though I tend to run it with one of the longer barrels. I've also been seeing most players that run SMG's are using the fennec in my personal experience. Either the Fennec, MP7 or MP5. In that order usually. The P90 and hurricane don't come up that often, but do pop up now and again. And I never see anyone using the BAS-P. Not that I blame them. The thing needs a buff somewhere, it gets outclassed by everything. I still haven't even ground out the levels because I just die so much.
Yh the Bas P is absolutely garbage
this was by far my least favourite SMG to rank up weirdly enough, was basically unusable with the base mag
Since I unlocked it I don't use anything else except when playing more open maps where I like the M4. To be honest I'm surprised more people aren't using the Fennec
i like running the longest barrel available and suppressor that increasea range to extend the 4 and 5 shot kill range as much as possible. downside is ads is atrocious but if u can deal with the ads it absolutely shreds. as soon as i started using it i started going off hitting 20+ killstreaks multiple times.
I was struggling with this gun and I stopped upgrading it at level 20. Can't quite put my finger on the issue but I was having way more fun with the G3
Ace: "I think this gun is underrated. I don't see too many people using it.
But all I see is 10 out of 12 people in the lobby running around with gold Fennecs.
This has been my go to gun for any small to med size map. For Shoothouse, I was destroying people. You do have to have the 45rnd mag though. Its useless otherwise. This is also for aggressive playing. If you like to charge into objectives and run around a map, this is your gun. If you’re a more lay back and hold corners player, stick with assault rifles.
I used this gun in shipment and dropped my highest kill game of 142
Staple gun for the win !
1:53 is this for all SGM's?
Great hip fire so you can ditch aim down sight time if you want.
Can't wait till you cover the taq M, people been sleeping on it
Yeah this is definitely the most fun smg to use. It rocks
I would be interested to see your weapon section of the stats page sir! Just curious on favorite guns, headshots, stuff like that.
Honestly I'm so happy they're somewhat accurate with the fennec's recoil given the Super V system
It was such a fun gun to get gold with.
Except the model they made is like the Vector's inbred cousin. No way that recoil system would fit in that tiny space behind the magazine in this game lol
The vector in Tarkov is really good. UMP is pretty awesome as well. We finally get the Aug this next wipe! And the honey Badger :)
Do we know if the barrels have the same range increases when using the double tap mod? Thinking about the 16.5 barrel plus double tap for doing my plat longshots...
Just got it gold a few days ago my new fav gun
Are you considering doing more attachment breakdowns? For example muzzle attachments and their ads and range properties? With the fennec the question is what range values silencers give versus barrels as the barrels make it quite slow.
I ALWAYS PULLED VECTOR VS VAL/MP5/M4 SWEATY BOYS ON MW2019
I WAS HOPING PEOPLE STILL HATED IT THIS YEAR LOL
The fennec was the last smg I got gold, and it was after the bas-p had already come out, so I actually unlocked platinum on it before I even finished leveling it up, using the double tap mod lol
How exactly did you get long shot kills with it for that?
@@scmsean i used the battle pass blueprint and skill lol
@@Purplepentapus_ I got long shots with 2 SMGS. I quit after that. It wasn't fun.
Tier 1 everyone just camps, so camping for long shots sucked.
@@scmsean zarqwa hydro, best map for it
Swap the muzzle attachment for the long barrel. ADS in the low 300’s, 4 shot kill at 50m.
Great job
I can see the double tap fennec being crazy in search and destroy
I like this gun very much!
hey... want to know what runs faster than fenec and knife combined ? make a custom weapon blueprint using already excisting one, use your own parts and tunings, save it, use it on your loadout, now it should say that you are using the "pro -tuned" tunings on your own loadout, go to firing range and the weapon will most likely load in as an invalid weapon and not load and you can move around unarmed, works the best with mp7s myth maker BB, the game permanently unloads you primary tho until you switch loadouts/make it just the base gun just a word of warning
was this just reuploaded? could have sworn i saw this recommended yesterday or the day before
Yo Ace, I love your videos! I'm curious if you could do a video on whether or not the "casual/objective/high kills" lobby options make ANY difference whatsoever? I am a father, a coach, and I work full-time. I love parts of the game but have found it difficult to enjoy because the lobbies I am in are not casual by any means. Thanks man!!
I'd like to see what the ranges are after the longest barrel and suppressor and double tap mod lol.
1:17 doesnt the glock say it fires 20 rounds a second as its description? Wouldn’t that make the fennec 2nd in fire rate?
The x13 has a fire rate of 923RPM
@@TheXclusiveAce ah ok thank you, sad that they can even get their own gun descriptions correct
If you look at how that gun operates IRL you'll understand the lack of recoil. Pretty cool design
Love/hate the double tap mod. Up close is cool, but anything past 30m requires absolutely perfect aim while on the move or you'll get pasted! Plus, the slow bullet velocity doesn't help at more medium ranges where an opponent is running fast. Also, chews through that 12-round mag pretty quickly and then you're reloading yet again (and, as we saw, the reload speed isn't the best).
The double tap mod is a demon in Tier 1
I love this gun just like how I loved spitfire in bo4.
Video 14 asking Ace to bring tier 1 ranges back to gun guides