You keep mentioning teleporting Angels can't teleport or fly anymore. The only angels that could probably fly would be the archangels and they're all trapped in hell.
I think the unknown creature who was Cole's father is a nod to a monster from the X-files, the character's name was Eugene Tooms and he would kill and steal livers from at least three people to consume before entering a cycle of hibernation for a period of time. I can't remember if it's every thirty or sixty years where he reemerges.
Jimmy was dead during his first episode, when he and Cas were separate the third episode before the finale in season 4. His soul left the body making Cas the only inhabitant of it
@@patrickmcguire7896 I think in My Bloody Valentine in season 5, Jimmy is supposedly the reason Cas craves red meat, and that's the last we hear about Jimmy being in the body still. I do however think it's weird that Jimmy should be in the body after Raphael smites Cas, but not after Lucifer does so, as seems to be the most accepted time for when Jimmy's soul left. I've seen people speculate that Jimmy also made it through Lucifer destroying the body, only later leaving it for Heaven, fx after Cas' season 6 death. I don't think the show ever explicitly says when?
I quite like that the show brings up the cost to angels possessing someone, and how an angel can't really "live a life" in a possessed vessel, without raising a whole bunch of questions about the consent of the human they inhabit. It's an interesting theme I loved so much in season 4's "The Rapture'. One interesting point however, is what gets established with Gadreel's possession of Sam. If a human soul can reject an angel from their body at any point, why don't we see that at points like this?
So once again Jer, when the angels felled at the end of season 8 they lost their wings, and cannot teleport anymore. Burning Angel wings as the season 9 opener indicates that
In season 4 "The Rapture", Castiel was yanked back to heaven. Jimmy is shot by his demon-possessed wife. Castiel returns in Jimmy's daughter, Claire. With his dying breath, he begs Castiel to take him instead of his daughter so she could lead a normal life.
Angels can’t teleport anymore Jer. When they lost their wings they lost their ability to do that. They technically weren’t teleporting they were just flying fast as fuck. No wings = no flying
IRISH? I’m Irish, and I’d love if Rowena and Crowley were Irish but that accent is Scottish. Rowena has a Scottish accent. Crowley was originally called Fergus MacLeod (pronounced Mc-Cloud). That name is so ridiculously Scottish. I understand the confusion a touch as the Irish and Scottish are Celtic kin essentially.
Rowena is Scottish and we love her!!! an absolute queen!! i'm glad the horrible Cas/Hannah plot is done, and yes Jimmy is dead he died when Cas was killed by either by Raphael or Lucifer (i can't remember)
I think Hannah is the only angel I've seen so far that was sympathetic to her human so much that she left her body to go back to her family. Even Cas didn't do that.
To be fair, Cas' situation is quite different to Hannah's. Cas needed a vessel to help attempt to stop the Apocalypse. Then Jimmy died and went to Heaven when Lucifer killed Cas. As a sidenote, that really should have happened when Raphael killed Cas at the end of season 4, as he did the same thing Lucifer did. Presumably God decided to put Jimmy back the first time, but not the second? Regardless, after the immediate danger of the Apocalypse, there was no Jimmy to give the vessel back to. There has been no point where the entire world wasn't in danger that Cas could give control back to Jimmy. I think Cas' big mistake was not facing the Novak family after all this. I get that there has been many points where it would be difficult or even impossible, but there has been quite moments where he could have gone to them, or at least tried, to explain what happened to Jimmy and give them closure. He promised Jimmy to take care of them, but failed that promise.
To be fair, Cas' situation is quite different to Hannah's. Cas needed a vessel to help attempt to stop the Apocalypse. Then Jimmy died and went to Heaven when Lucifer killed Cas. As a sidenote, that really should have happened when Raphael killed Cas at the end of season 4, as he did the same thing Lucifer did. Presumably God decided to put Jimmy back the first time, but not the second? Regardless, after the immediate danger of the Apocalypse, there was no Jimmy to give the vessel back to. There has been no point where the entire world wasn't in danger that Cas could give control back to Jimmy. I think Cas' big mistake was not facing the Novak family after all this. I get that there has been many points where it would be difficult or even impossible, but there has been quite moments where he could have gone to them, or at least tried, to explain what happened to Jimmy and give them closure. He promised Jimmy to take care of them, but failed that promise.
While I’m a diehard Destiel shipper I didn’t have a problem with Cas and Hannah. I thought it was nice for Castiel to have his own life outside of the brothers. This is also the perfect set up for his next arc
Okay let’s be real Dean let Cole beat him up. Still Dean ended up coming out the bigger man in the end, I just hate it whenever he speaks so little of himself
You wanted Cas & Crowley, there ya go. I never liked the Cas/Hanah stuff so I am glad that is done. I didn't need to see Cole again, but that was okay. I am intrigues on Rowena being Crowley's mama.
Way back in season 4, it was established that angels are "junkless" Then we had April.. reaper but a form of angel and Cas and this one it sure looked like Cas was reacting to Hannah's junk..right? continuity..sigh
Cas and Anna had a thing actually before she fell. Or it was at least strongly hinted at. Gabriel was basically a manwhore. Both are examples from the Kripke era, meaning its not really breaking continuity.
So you know, dean was not possessed. The mark turned dean himself into a demon and then Sam cured him with Castiel’s help.
Fun fact. Ruth Connell (Rowena) and Rob Benedict (Chuck) are expecting a baby IRL.
Seriously?
right now？😮
thanks, I didn't know that. interesting fact
I’m sure you’ve read it plenty of times now haha but dean wasn’t possessed, he was the demon. Basically as you said it was ‘dean without humanity’
You keep mentioning teleporting Angels can't teleport or fly anymore. The only angels that could probably fly would be the archangels and they're all trapped in hell.
My girl Rowena is finally here!!!
Rowena - Scottish witch. Crowley (Fergus) from Scotland.
I think the unknown creature who was Cole's father is a nod to a monster from the X-files, the character's name was Eugene Tooms and he would kill and steal livers from at least three people to consume before entering a cycle of hibernation for a period of time. I can't remember if it's every thirty or sixty years where he reemerges.
Tooms was creepy af🙂
23:28 as someone who is Scottish I found it so funny that’s what you thought an Irish accent sounds like 😂
Dean was 26 in season 1, Sam was 22.
8:45 Yeah, the deamon dude looks at ROWENA and thinks she's not hot enough? 😂😂😂 Deamon dude's trippin'.
Jimmy Novak been dead ever since Lucifer exploded Castiel.
Jimmy was dead during his first episode, when he and Cas were separate the third episode before the finale in season 4. His soul left the body making Cas the only inhabitant of it
@@patrickmcguire7896 I think in My Bloody Valentine in season 5, Jimmy is supposedly the reason Cas craves red meat, and that's the last we hear about Jimmy being in the body still.
I do however think it's weird that Jimmy should be in the body after Raphael smites Cas, but not after Lucifer does so, as seems to be the most accepted time for when Jimmy's soul left. I've seen people speculate that Jimmy also made it through Lucifer destroying the body, only later leaving it for Heaven, fx after Cas' season 6 death. I don't think the show ever explicitly says when?
I quite like that the show brings up the cost to angels possessing someone, and how an angel can't really "live a life" in a possessed vessel, without raising a whole bunch of questions about the consent of the human they inhabit. It's an interesting theme I loved so much in season 4's "The Rapture'. One interesting point however, is what gets established with Gadreel's possession of Sam. If a human soul can reject an angel from their body at any point, why don't we see that at points like this?
So once again Jer, when the angels felled at the end of season 8 they lost their wings, and cannot teleport anymore. Burning Angel wings as the season 9 opener indicates that
In season 4 "The Rapture", Castiel was yanked back to heaven. Jimmy is shot by his demon-possessed wife. Castiel returns in Jimmy's daughter, Claire. With his dying breath, he begs Castiel to take him instead of his daughter so she could lead a normal life.
100% had a crush on Crowleys mom first time i watched this show.. for some reason lol
Angels can’t teleport anymore Jer. When they lost their wings they lost their ability to do that. They technically weren’t teleporting they were just flying fast as fuck. No wings = no flying
IRISH? I’m Irish, and I’d love if Rowena and Crowley were Irish but that accent is Scottish. Rowena has a Scottish accent. Crowley was originally called Fergus MacLeod (pronounced Mc-Cloud). That name is so ridiculously Scottish. I understand the confusion a touch as the Irish and Scottish are Celtic kin essentially.
Rowena is Scottish and we love her!!! an absolute queen!! i'm glad the horrible Cas/Hannah plot is done, and yes Jimmy is dead he died when Cas was killed by either by Raphael or Lucifer (i can't remember)
Jimmy died when he got stabbed in season 4 by that random demon who yanked him. He told Castiel to take him instead of his daughter.
@@The_Jupiter2_Mission - Jimmy was shot by his demon possessed wife.
S4 EP20 "The Rapture". 😉
@@cup_cuppy_cuppers5817 That's the one I meant. I got the stab part wrong.
I think Hannah is the only angel I've seen so far that was sympathetic to her human so much that she left her body to go back to her family. Even Cas didn't do that.
To be fair, Cas' situation is quite different to Hannah's. Cas needed a vessel to help attempt to stop the Apocalypse. Then Jimmy died and went to Heaven when Lucifer killed Cas. As a sidenote, that really should have happened when Raphael killed Cas at the end of season 4, as he did the same thing Lucifer did. Presumably God decided to put Jimmy back the first time, but not the second?
Regardless, after the immediate danger of the Apocalypse, there was no Jimmy to give the vessel back to. There has been no point where the entire world wasn't in danger that Cas could give control back to Jimmy.
I think Cas' big mistake was not facing the Novak family after all this. I get that there has been many points where it would be difficult or even impossible, but there has been quite moments where he could have gone to them, or at least tried, to explain what happened to Jimmy and give them closure. He promised Jimmy to take care of them, but failed that promise.
To be fair, Cas' situation is quite different to Hannah's. Cas needed a vessel to help attempt to stop the Apocalypse. Then Jimmy died and went to Heaven when Lucifer killed Cas. As a sidenote, that really should have happened when Raphael killed Cas at the end of season 4, as he did the same thing Lucifer did. Presumably God decided to put Jimmy back the first time, but not the second?
Regardless, after the immediate danger of the Apocalypse, there was no Jimmy to give the vessel back to. There has been no point where the entire world wasn't in danger that Cas could give control back to Jimmy.
I think Cas' big mistake was not facing the Novak family after all this. I get that there has been many points where it would be difficult or even impossible, but there has been quite moments where he could have gone to them, or at least tried, to explain what happened to Jimmy and give them closure. He promised Jimmy to take care of them, but failed that promise.
All angels lost their wings when they were cast out by Metatron. They can no longer teleport.
Mother?!?
"It's at the edge of a blade or the barrel of a gun." Yeah, something sharp for sure.
they cant teleport. not since the fall.
Cole's off now to pick up the ladies at SPN conventions.
Harass the underage girls, you mean.
Crowley always said he was son of a witch ....
You are going to like Rowena ❤
Scottish jer not Irish 😂
Feeergus....❤Rowen
Hibbing 911 is next... You betcha❣️
This is one of my favorite eps. All the story lines are so sad. And Rowena rocks!
While I’m a diehard Destiel shipper I didn’t have a problem with Cas and Hannah. I thought it was nice for Castiel to have his own life outside of the brothers. This is also the perfect set up for his next arc
The second best red head in the series!!!!!!!!!
Yesss👏👏
I love Rowena!!
Dean still is being pushed to kill, but he is controlling it by an act of will.
Rowena! one of my favorite characters!
Okay let’s be real Dean let Cole beat him up. Still Dean ended up coming out the bigger man in the end, I just hate it whenever he speaks so little of himself
Rowena has a Scottish accent, not Irish.
A single mann tear 😅
Rowena! 😍😍😍
Rowena...YAY!!
Rowena ❤
You wanted Cas & Crowley, there ya go. I never liked the Cas/Hanah stuff so I am glad that is done. I didn't need to see Cole again, but that was okay. I am intrigues on Rowena being Crowley's mama.
Rowena my Queen!!!
The scenes with Castiel and the other angels are so boring, though I do love those with Crowley and the brothers.
Way back in season 4, it was established that angels are "junkless"
Then we had April.. reaper but a form of angel and Cas and this one it sure looked like Cas was reacting to Hannah's junk..right?
continuity..sigh
Cas and Anna had a thing actually before she fell. Or it was at least strongly hinted at. Gabriel was basically a manwhore. Both are examples from the Kripke era, meaning its not really breaking continuity.
The angels true forms are junkless. You think when an angel possesses a human, their junk just disappears? LOL.
You think Gabriel, mister ''porn'', never used his junk? ''Junkless'' was just an insult Dean threw at Uriel...
Rowena❤