Bro you need to understand this loki is from 2012 and after he went to tva he understood what he did in new York was wrong so what if he wanted to 2012 to stop it
@@caske77I think I have another theory on another place Loki could have time slipped.I think Loki time slipped to 2018 where Thanos attacks him and Thor's space ship and kills Loki in Infinity War, which may be why we see a random guy walking on Thanos's ship as soon as Thanos starts choking him.
actually it doesn’t because when he says “he still stabbed thor afraid he would change the future” makes no sense since he knows changing anything would mean nothing
Nope he never wanted to 100% conquer earth. He was just always the same Loki looking for attention. Him saying it’s too late was him knowing he already set him self as the villain or potentially hinting at thanos who he made a deal with (or both)
@@repomang ofc not but Marvel decided to make Loki series after Loki getting lots of love from the fans after thor Ragnarok and they actually were going to make a movie but ended up making a series and everything in the series is created and thought of after the first Avengers so this theory is wrong and like I said Loki was just being Loki and was deceiving Thor
@@repomangyou do not have to be a movie director to figure out basic logic. Time slipping wasn't on the table jet it wasn't been written. You can't say because they made some decisions now they all ready planned it in the past.
Just because it hadn't been thought of yet doesn't mean it can't be true. That's called a retcon. It isn't true though because that's not how time travel works in MCU.
@@justinecsalengojust only works when they show in screen? Well I don’t think he time slipped back then but it’s fun to have that theory so guys please don’t kill it
@@caske77why would he stop the fight though? What purpose does that serve? He’s beyond that at this point. He doesn’t care about changing the past he cares about protecting the multiverse and preparing for Kang. And if he did want to stop 2012, even though he really has no reason to, why wouldn’t they show it or at least reference it in Loki season 2?
It was the sceptor consuming his mind since it had the mind stone. He just snapped out of it at that point which is why he said it's too late. Was doing the same thing to the avengers when they all started arguing on helicarrier.
Maybe thanos left something to control the mind stone that's why loki didn't even know he was controlled and that's why vision was weak in infinity war not like what if vision.😊
Yeah I don't think Loki was ever evil I he just wanted respect and to be loved he even said this to Thor he went the wrong way about it but was good at heart ,the scepter was altering his thoughts probably why Thanos gave it to him to try lock him onto the dark side he snapped out of it for a second here and seen what he had done before the stone took back over and it would explain why Loki turns good so quickly in his series coz he already was he's shown that his way never worked and learns to find a new way by the time the series ends he his exactly what he wanted friends respect and love but his and the thing he thought he wanted (to rule ) now has a completely different meaning, burdened with glorious purpose hold everything to together but never get to see them again
Possible theory but I don't think so since they haven't even planned out the Loki show till years later but I'm sure marvel uses old scenes like that and justify why they acted like that to their newer shows
The day that Loki and Thor meet again, will be a beautiful moment, not during a battle against each other. Fans will be crying in the aisles with joy when it happens.
Personally, I think Loki just escape from the Mind Stone influence for few seconds since we know if he did all of this it was because the stone amplify his negatives feelings. Which don't mean he's not responsible for everything he did, but maybe id the stone didn't influence him for one moment he was able to realise what he was doing
The reason is likely because Loki was scared of Thanos so Loki was considering listening to Thor but then he remembered thanos so that’s probably what happened
Brother i think this could be true but even if loki time slipped the animation of slipping will play somehow and would have in this situation too also that loki in 2012 was pure evil at the time no anti hero like Ragnarok and stuff, so it was just his mischief maybe to make thor stop focusing and allowing loki to land a strike.
i hate these types of nonsense theories that people make out of thin air. i mean the time slipping concept came in marvel 11 years after the avengers movie. i don't know how people get these absurd ideas as theories.
That's just not at all even close to what happened. If he time slipped we not only would've seen it, but he also wouldn't be confused at all. He also wouldn't have chosen that time to go to. He had already made his choice before the doors opened and his choice was not a selfish one. He wouldn't time slip for something selfish like that while already committing to something so selfless. He had long given up the life he had during avengers and he wouldn't want to go back there to see his brother fighting him again. If he went back anywhere, if he chose to be that selfish during that moment, it wouldn't be to see his brother. It would be to see his mother.
I think it would've been a really good theory if he time slipped at this moment unwillingly like he wasn't able to control it at the beginning .. because if he wanted to see him one last time it makes sense that he time slips at a better more calm moment .. or even cooler theory that when Thanos arrived into Thor's ship Loki time slips there because when Thanos said the stone or your brother's head he didn't hesitate and choose to sacrifice his brother but he suddenly said stop because he time slipped at the perfect moment and then he said to Thor the sun will shine on us again .. and right before he dies he came back to the loom
I think he was halfly mind controlled by thanos. It is possible since the staff, a.k.a Mind Stone was given to Loki so he could obtain Space stone and conquer earth as thanos's minion. Thor's words for a second freed the Mind control, but it didn't last long. Or another theory, it was another loki's trick like that with a snake.
noway they thought of that way back than, so here is my theory: the guys behind the loki series were watching avangers 2012 and this scene happenes and they are like: "dude, what happened there? that doesn't make any sence!" another guy respondes: "than let's make it make sence!" the first guy then asks: "but how?" 2nd guy answears: "let's make him have some kind of new time travel power! we'll call it time sliping!" first guy asks something again: "then we'll show the audiance that this is what happened way back than, right? Right?" 2nd guy answears with: "pffsh, what? no! we'll leave it for them to realise it than when we see it we come back in time tell ourselfs just like the us from just before!" ..... BUT HEY, THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A FILM THEORY, AAAAND cut!
Bottom line is that Loki, is onky abke to "time slipbor jump" .....in and ariund the TVA itself. Was not able to time slip or jump throughout the reslms of the universe... sorry but that's the truth 😢😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The effect was missing. He just played with the expressions of emotion to fool Thor. The he, being still in this state you think it's future-Loki, stabbed Thor and said something like "pathetic" (sorry, I watched it with local voiceover) or something like that, mocking Thor's passion.
His eyes wasn't showing confusion nor pity. Loki was in disbelief that humans could effectively defend themselves against such a legendary militia like the Chitauri
Nah this is stretch. 1st, it will not change the trajectory of the future, it will just branched out to a new timeline. If you remember, TVA pruned the timeline where Loki escape from the Avenger. Because its a branch timeline. Now if Loki somehow change the past when he time slip, it will just another branch timeline
Nah man, think about it. Every time Loki slipped, he wasn't transferred to his previous body. Both would exist at the same time, like with the others. Sorry man, but this aint got legs.
Do you think these shows are real life? Obviously Marvel wasn’t planning Loki season 2 back in 2012, so no he didn’t time slip 10 years before they wrote time slipping into the Loki plot.
therfore loki will create another timeline Any time slip, loki did could create branches in multiverse. creating another story or a flip of a book in the loom. It can be indicated in the story that Loki is the one created the multiverse and suddenly creates the kang dynasty, with that the branches in "centuries later" makes more different story of war in new york or upon creating the world.. I just don't know if Loki time slip to future to look for an answers to save the multiverse. The MCU made the MCU bigger and bigger, there should be so many things they can twist the story now.
That would mean fiegie planned this out WAY in advance. Sure y’all gave him credit for long term planning in the first two phases but criticize him later.
He could only time slip through the TVA…as the scared timeline..where the battle took place was destroyed…it was a nexus event that had already been solidified…by your logic he could simply go back to when the tesseract was up for grabs and not pick it up…
Not a good theory. He didn't look confused. He was just afraid of what would happen to him if he didn't succeed, after he had a "conversation" with The Other when he "mind-teleported" to somewhere in space. The Other told him he wouldn't be able to hide from Thanos if he didn't succeed.
This is actually wrong. I have a better and sadder theory... there is evidence that Thanos tortured Loki and forced him to attack Earth (he never wanted to🥺). And some say that Thanos also used the mind stone. So I think that moment Loki got out of Thanos' control and came to his senses... I get depressed every time I think about it🥺🥺🥺😭
This is actually wrong. I have a better and sadder theory... there is evidence that Thanos tortured Loki and forced him to attack Earth (he never wanted to🥺). And some say that Thanos also used the mind stone. So I think that moment Loki got out of Thanos' control and came to his senses... I get depressed every time I think about it🥺🥺🥺😭
This is actually wrong. I have a better and sadder theory... there is evidence that Thanos tortured Loki and forced him to attack Earth (he never wanted to🥺). And some say that Thanos also used the mind stone. So I think that moment Loki got out of Thanos' control and came to his senses... I get depressed every time I think about it🥺🥺🥺😭
This is actually wrong. I have a better and sadder theory... there is evidence that Thanos tortured Loki and forced him to attack Earth (he never wanted to🥺). And some say that Thanos also used the mind stone. So I think that moment Loki got out of Thanos' control and came to his senses... I get depressed every time I think about it🥺🥺🥺😭
This is actually wrong. I have a better and sadder theory... there is evidence that Thanos tortured Loki and forced him to attack Earth (he never wanted to🥺). And some say that Thanos also used the mind stone. So I think that moment Loki got out of Thanos' control and came to his senses... I get depressed every time I think about it🥺🥺🥺😭
Cool, but you have an hypothesis not a theory. I wish we could teach people how science terms work. It’s not your fault of course. I know you mean it in a colloquial way but a theory and an hypothesis are very different things. This might even just be a conjecture but that’s another story.
I have a theory that in the first avenger movie that was just regular Loki and they were just trying to show that he was conflicted about the decisions he was making… you know, like a regular simple explanation that is probably the most obvious one. Especially as none of this is real and Marvel had no idea they were going to make a Loki TV show in the future let alone what the plot might be. You know, just like things would normally happen in actual reality
uhmm this theory isnt possible because if he could timeslip back (which was possible at this time in the series) he wouldnt be in his older body it would be like the scene of iron man (2019 / Endgame) sneaking into the Avengers buidling u could see tony's older self and ur saying loki timeslipped into loki's older body which isnt possible otherwise we could call loki a ghost that can posses people which he cant so if loki really time slipped back to 2012 to meet thor again (which he didnt) why wasnt there another loki? and if this was true marvel wouldnt make sense because why would loki go back in time to 2012 newyork when he could go back in time to a later event in time where loki and thor were alone like he could go back to 2012 but if he did they wouldnt have time to talk because it was basically war in new york at that time
Omg dude.. you really believe this? Not everything has to be so complicated. Loki is not really evii. He has a hesrt, which is why he felt regretful for sec.
Ur saying this as joss whedon knew 6 years early that the Russo brothers would kill off Loki in infinity war and the avengers would time travel in endgame and a 2012 Loki variant escaped leading to 2 season of a show where he mastered timeslipping
Pretty sure this is far more under the 'mind cintrol' aspect. Clint war knocked out of it with a good shot to the head, loki got a pretty good beating. But unlike clint, loki was easily controlled because part of him wsnted his revenge. But it was when he was slipping out of it, seeing the extent of it, that he had an 'oh sh*t' moment. But we know loki. He'd never admit he screwed up so he just recovered and ran with it.
Bros commentary’s are giving way to much credit to the MCUs writers. They didn’t even know about the Loki show during this time. These videos are just injecting things that didn’t exist.
I really like this theory a lot, but it’s not possible considering when the first Avengers film was made compared to when the Loki series was made. Besides I personally think it was Loki briefly breaking out of the control of the mind stone, and that’s why he says it’s too late to stop it.
Unfortunately, the people who wrote the first avengers movie had no idea there would be a loki show, and had nothing to do with it. The current ring leaders could certainly try to shoehorn that idea (and it is a good theory, if only), but I really don't think anyone was thinking about anything beyond Thanos.
I get why you would you think that but I don't think back then they were thinking 11 years into the future about what they might do with this character. I think it was more about him actually reflecting on what Thor was thinking about all the madness possibly ending up with him on top.
While that’s an interesting theory, it can’t be true. In the scene where he timeslips back to the scene with the ringing phone, and he prunes himself, he is a separate body from his own at that specific time. That would also apply to the battle of New York.
That would be the most stupid moment to travel to. It just shows he's an anti-hero and not a villian. At that moment Marvel didn't even know a Loki series would happen
Неа. Просто Локи действительно не хотел делать то, что он делал. Даже когда он напал на Нью Йорк, он не был по-настоящему плохим. Поэтому Тор достучался до него.
i don't think so.. when loki couldn't control the time slip, he has duplicate body.. also he time slip to the people who present in the destruction of TVA
I would think its more simple than that, Thor brings back the voice in his head questioning if what he is doing is right but you can see him conclude that he has gone to far. Loki was always forces down the path of the villian by the timeline but part of him never wanted to be the bad guy.
I think ıf he realy wanted to see his brother he has a lot better memorys then fighting against him.
Yep
They lived togather hundreds of years
This loki only know till 2012 and remaining was just shown to him on screen ,may be he didn't want to go to future to see his death
He probably also wanted to see his old self to see how much he changed
Bro he's a god not a human being
Bro you need to understand this loki is from 2012 and after he went to tva he understood what he did in new York was wrong so what if he wanted to 2012 to stop it
Even Marvel don't know this
Because this is a fucking theory. Not even canon.
Yes
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Its like "sasuga Ains sama"😅
Plot twist: Marvel created the whole Loki series just to justify this scene
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God I bet you really believe that to that’s the sad part of this!❤😂😂😂😂
Love your comment even more!!!❤
This comment is canon hahahah
"its too late to stop it" i dont think he was talking about the invasion
Damnn
@@caske77I think I have another theory on another place Loki could have time slipped.I think Loki time slipped to 2018 where Thanos attacks him and Thor's space ship and kills Loki in Infinity War, which may be why we see a random guy walking on Thanos's ship as soon as Thanos starts choking him.
Nahhhh
@@OwensLegoShow even the writers didnt know this 😂
everyone before loki: this is nonsense
everyone after loki: now all of these are make sense
actually it doesn’t because when he says “he still stabbed thor afraid he would change the future” makes no sense since he knows changing anything would mean nothing
@@deathking1019So true
We could come back in 100 years n see the Loki worship in full force
What? You actually buying that crap?
Really cool theory, but sadly I think it's impossible 😢 he probably just wanted to trick Thor
Nah he was influenced by the sceptor
Ikr
@@LadyLokiThe1stnope
Nope he never wanted to 100% conquer earth. He was just always the same Loki looking for attention. Him saying it’s too late was him knowing he already set him self as the villain or potentially hinting at thanos who he made a deal with (or both)
@@unnamed6650 Its cannon so yes
Nope they never thought of making Loki series in the first place that time so no loki time slipping and it was just a trick Loki used to deceive thor
Are you a director? 😂
@@repomang ofc not but Marvel decided to make Loki series after Loki getting lots of love from the fans after thor Ragnarok and they actually were going to make a movie but ended up making a series and everything in the series is created and thought of after the first Avengers so this theory is wrong and like I said Loki was just being Loki and was deceiving Thor
@@repomangyou do not have to be a movie director to figure out basic logic. Time slipping wasn't on the table jet it wasn't been written. You can't say because they made some decisions now they all ready planned it in the past.
Just because it hadn't been thought of yet doesn't mean it can't be true. That's called a retcon. It isn't true though because that's not how time travel works in MCU.
@@justinecsalengojust only works when they show in screen? Well I don’t think he time slipped back then but it’s fun to have that theory so guys please don’t kill it
Loki goes to meet Thor , Thor plays 'Get help'
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What a good time to meet his brother...love it..🥰
Maybe he wanted to stop the fight that's why he go to 2012
@@caske77 but nothing happened right...so for me this theory doesn't make any sense..😓
@@caske77you literally just contradicted yourself in your own video 😂
@@caske77why would he stop the fight though? What purpose does that serve? He’s beyond that at this point. He doesn’t care about changing the past he cares about protecting the multiverse and preparing for Kang. And if he did want to stop 2012, even though he really has no reason to, why wouldn’t they show it or at least reference it in Loki season 2?
@@user-uv5qr3gc4imaybe while learning to control the TS, randomly popping in?
Yeah yeah, this theory was not even thought by the writters of the film😂
You got that , big round of plause for you
Please stop making up ridiculous stuff like this. they would've made it obvious if this was intended.
It was the sceptor consuming his mind since it had the mind stone. He just snapped out of it at that point which is why he said it's too late. Was doing the same thing to the avengers when they all started arguing on helicarrier.
Maybe thanos left something to control the mind stone that's why loki didn't even know he was controlled and that's why vision was weak in infinity war not like what if vision.😊
yea its cannon, thanos is a b!cth
Oh okay thank you for the info
Yeah I don't think Loki was ever evil I he just wanted respect and to be loved he even said this to Thor he went the wrong way about it but was good at heart ,the scepter was altering his thoughts probably why Thanos gave it to him to try lock him onto the dark side he snapped out of it for a second here and seen what he had done before the stone took back over and it would explain why Loki turns good so quickly in his series coz he already was he's shown that his way never worked and learns to find a new way by the time the series ends he his exactly what he wanted friends respect and love but his and the thing he thought he wanted (to rule ) now has a completely different meaning, burdened with glorious purpose hold everything to together but never get to see them again
This right here, directors confirmed, he was distressed and jealous of Thor but his cold intensity came from mind stone
At then did they really plan for the Loki series 😅
Seriously man trying to make something out of anything 😂😅
Ya....i was about to text the same thing
@@VinayYadav-bj9meretcons exist
Even morvels also get suprise after seeing this video 😂😂
@@chetanhegde6319 Hahha true
Possible theory but I don't think so since they haven't even planned out the Loki show till years later but I'm sure marvel uses old scenes like that and justify why they acted like that to their newer shows
Possible
The day that Loki and Thor meet again, will be a beautiful moment, not during a battle against each other. Fans will be crying in the aisles with joy when it happens.
Personally, I think Loki just escape from the Mind Stone influence for few seconds since we know if he did all of this it was because the stone amplify his negatives feelings. Which don't mean he's not responsible for everything he did, but maybe id the stone didn't influence him for one moment he was able to realise what he was doing
The reason is likely because Loki was scared of Thanos so Loki was considering listening to Thor but then he remembered thanos so that’s probably what happened
Also he wanted to rule 🌍 and it was being destroyed.
Cute theory but maybe it was a simple reason: He loved his brother.
Except that variant of Loki doing everythjng he did in his show hadn't happened yet when Avengers 1 originally happened.
What if it all happened all at once 🤔 Like an Ouroboros.
Variant Loki was in the tva which is outside of time. So all of time is happening about to happen and has already happened.
@@benzobenji2698 This some Heavy $hit right here!
Bro its time travelling
Brother i think this could be true but even if loki time slipped the animation of slipping will play somehow and would have in this situation too also that loki in 2012 was pure evil at the time no anti hero like Ragnarok and stuff, so it was just his mischief maybe to make thor stop focusing and allowing loki to land a strike.
Maybe marvel didn't want to spoil it
i hate these types of nonsense theories that people make out of thin air. i mean the time slipping concept came in marvel 11 years after the avengers movie. i don't know how people get these absurd ideas as theories.
Its an interesting theory. I really dont think that Marvel at that time would've been thinking that far ahead. But, who knows, maybe...
He Is good guy And Always be. But He try hard to be better than Thor
That's just not at all even close to what happened. If he time slipped we not only would've seen it, but he also wouldn't be confused at all. He also wouldn't have chosen that time to go to. He had already made his choice before the doors opened and his choice was not a selfish one. He wouldn't time slip for something selfish like that while already committing to something so selfless. He had long given up the life he had during avengers and he wouldn't want to go back there to see his brother fighting him again. If he went back anywhere, if he chose to be that selfish during that moment, it wouldn't be to see his brother. It would be to see his mother.
Changing the past doesn’t change the future!! It just creates a new branched timeline!
That is pretty good one
Thank you moamenag
This is actually a really good thought. I feel kind of weird to see that this fact might be true
Yeah bullshit. They didn't plan this far back in 2012
That would be dope
I mean he even got a whole century timeskip to learn science, never know if he sliping somewhere to mess around other than that
I think it would've been a really good theory if he time slipped at this moment unwillingly like he wasn't able to control it at the beginning .. because if he wanted to see him one last time it makes sense that he time slips at a better more calm moment .. or even cooler theory that when Thanos arrived into Thor's ship Loki time slips there because when Thanos said the stone or your brother's head he didn't hesitate and choose to sacrifice his brother but he suddenly said stop because he time slipped at the perfect moment and then he said to Thor the sun will shine on us again .. and right before he dies he came back to the loom
Loki went back in time just to stab his brother one last time
WHEN THE AVENGERS WAS RELEASED, THE DIRECTORS DIDN'T EVEN KNEW THERE WILL BE LOKI SERIES
Stretch Armstrong doesn’t reach this far
Well this is a really good theory. Aprooved this
Loki just being god of mischief , did this to dustract thor nothing else.
Ce n'est pas le dieu du mal
this is a very interesting theory
But that’s a clip from avengers which went on to follow the main 616 timeline, the Loki that can time slip is from a branch of 616,
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I think he was halfly mind controlled by thanos. It is possible since the staff, a.k.a Mind Stone was given to Loki so he could obtain Space stone and conquer earth as thanos's minion. Thor's words for a second freed the Mind control, but it didn't last long. Or another theory, it was another loki's trick like that with a snake.
Oh boy 😂
I think he was under the control of mind stone from his sceptre.
Loli confusing Thor. Because loki is god of mischief in that tym
noway they thought of that way back than, so here is my theory: the guys behind the loki series were watching avangers 2012 and this scene happenes and they are like: "dude, what happened there? that doesn't make any sence!" another guy respondes: "than let's make it make sence!" the first guy then asks: "but how?" 2nd guy answears: "let's make him have some kind of new time travel power! we'll call it time sliping!" first guy asks something again: "then we'll show the audiance that this is what happened way back than, right? Right?" 2nd guy answears with: "pffsh, what? no! we'll leave it for them to realise it than when we see it we come back in time tell ourselfs just like the us from just before!"
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BUT HEY, THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A FILM THEORY, AAAAND cut!
bro is writing marvel
While I feel this is a reach, it was basically the last moment he knows before the event of the show
Bottom line is that Loki, is onky abke to "time slipbor jump" .....in and ariund the TVA itself. Was not able to time slip or jump throughout the reslms of the universe... sorry but that's the truth 😢😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The effect was missing. He just played with the expressions of emotion to fool Thor. The he, being still in this state you think it's future-Loki, stabbed Thor and said something like "pathetic" (sorry, I watched it with local voiceover) or something like that, mocking Thor's passion.
The story writing for loki season 1 started i 2018. Avengers Movie released in 2018. Check facts noob😊
His eyes wasn't showing confusion nor pity. Loki was in disbelief that humans could effectively defend themselves against such a legendary militia like the Chitauri
Wrong. He was a trickster during that time. He was acting confused and Thor fell for it. Did anyone actually watch these movies? Who made this short??
Nah this is stretch.
1st, it will not change the trajectory of the future, it will just branched out to a new timeline. If you remember, TVA pruned the timeline where Loki escape from the Avenger. Because its a branch timeline.
Now if Loki somehow change the past when he time slip, it will just another branch timeline
Geezus he sacrifices himself. Well that’s an effing spoiler. My fault for watching a reel with Loki when I haven’t watched season 2 yet.
Nah man, think about it. Every time Loki slipped, he wasn't transferred to his previous body. Both would exist at the same time, like with the others. Sorry man, but this aint got legs.
Do you think these shows are real life? Obviously Marvel wasn’t planning Loki season 2 back in 2012, so no he didn’t time slip 10 years before they wrote time slipping into the Loki plot.
therfore loki will create another timeline Any time slip, loki did could create branches in multiverse.
creating another story or a flip of a book in the loom.
It can be indicated in the story that Loki is the one created the multiverse and suddenly creates the kang dynasty, with that the branches in "centuries later" makes more different story of war in new york or upon creating the world.. I just don't know if Loki time slip to future to look for an answers to save the multiverse.
The MCU made the MCU bigger and bigger, there should be so many things they can twist the story now.
That would mean fiegie planned this out WAY in advance. Sure y’all gave him credit for long term planning in the first two phases but criticize him later.
He could only time slip through the TVA…as the scared timeline..where the battle took place was destroyed…it was a nexus event that had already been solidified…by your logic he could simply go back to when the tesseract was up for grabs and not pick it up…
Not a good theory. He didn't look confused. He was just afraid of what would happen to him if he didn't succeed, after he had a "conversation" with The Other when he "mind-teleported" to somewhere in space. The Other told him he wouldn't be able to hide from Thanos if he didn't succeed.
Even the writers don't know about what you're saying stop being delusional about your contents. The "source" -me
This is actually wrong. I have a better and sadder theory... there is evidence that Thanos tortured Loki and forced him to attack Earth (he never wanted to🥺). And some say that Thanos also used the mind stone. So I think that moment Loki got out of Thanos' control and came to his senses... I get depressed every time I think about it🥺🥺🥺😭
This is actually wrong. I have a better and sadder theory... there is evidence that Thanos tortured Loki and forced him to attack Earth (he never wanted to🥺). And some say that Thanos also used the mind stone. So I think that moment Loki got out of Thanos' control and came to his senses... I get depressed every time I think about it🥺🥺🥺😭
This is actually wrong. I have a better and sadder theory... there is evidence that Thanos tortured Loki and forced him to attack Earth (he never wanted to🥺). And some say that Thanos also used the mind stone. So I think that moment Loki got out of Thanos' control and came to his senses... I get depressed every time I think about it🥺🥺🥺😭
This is actually wrong. I have a better and sadder theory... there is evidence that Thanos tortured Loki and forced him to attack Earth (he never wanted to🥺). And some say that Thanos also used the mind stone. So I think that moment Loki got out of Thanos' control and came to his senses... I get depressed every time I think about it🥺🥺🥺😭
This is actually wrong. I have a better and sadder theory... there is evidence that Thanos tortured Loki and forced him to attack Earth (he never wanted to🥺). And some say that Thanos also used the mind stone. So I think that moment Loki got out of Thanos' control and came to his senses... I get depressed every time I think about it🥺🥺🥺😭
Loki time slipped to skull island to save Carol Danvers from the skullcrawlers, so she could later become Captain Marvel.
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Cool, but you have an hypothesis not a theory. I wish we could teach people how science terms work. It’s not your fault of course. I know you mean it in a colloquial way but a theory and an hypothesis are very different things. This might even just be a conjecture but that’s another story.
No. He just looked in pity to trick him into lowering his guard to stab him. That's it. They didn't have this planned 11 years ago.
I always imagined that Loki was being controlled through the Mind Stone. I mean why else would Thanos give someone he doesn't know an Infinity Stone?
I have a theory that in the first avenger movie that was just regular Loki and they were just trying to show that he was conflicted about the decisions he was making… you know, like a regular simple explanation that is probably the most obvious one. Especially as none of this is real and Marvel had no idea they were going to make a Loki TV show in the future let alone what the plot might be. You know, just like things would normally happen in actual reality
uhmm this theory isnt possible because if he could timeslip back (which was possible at this time in the series) he wouldnt be in his older body it would be like the scene of iron man (2019 / Endgame) sneaking into the Avengers buidling u could see tony's older self and ur saying loki timeslipped into loki's older body which isnt possible otherwise we could call loki a ghost that can posses people which he cant so if loki really time slipped back to 2012 to meet thor again (which he didnt) why wasnt there another loki? and if this was true marvel wouldnt make sense because why would loki go back in time to 2012 newyork when he could go back in time to a later event in time where loki and thor were alone like he could go back to 2012 but if he did they wouldnt have time to talk because it was basically war in new york at that time
Omg dude.. you really believe this? Not everything has to be so complicated.
Loki is not really evii. He has a hesrt, which is why he felt regretful for sec.
Interesting theory. But I’m more willing to assume he put on the confused act to catch Thor off guard to stab him. God of Mischief.
Ur saying this as joss whedon knew 6 years early that the Russo brothers would kill off Loki in infinity war and the avengers would time travel in endgame and a 2012 Loki variant escaped leading to 2 season of a show where he mastered timeslipping
director : thats new, even i didnt think bout that
Pretty sure this is far more under the 'mind cintrol' aspect. Clint war knocked out of it with a good shot to the head, loki got a pretty good beating. But unlike clint, loki was easily controlled because part of him wsnted his revenge. But it was when he was slipping out of it, seeing the extent of it, that he had an 'oh sh*t' moment. But we know loki. He'd never admit he screwed up so he just recovered and ran with it.
Nah your theory is wrong
Because every time when loki time slips into his another body
The glitch animation appears.😏😊
Bros commentary’s are giving way to much credit to the MCUs writers. They didn’t even know about the Loki show during this time. These videos are just injecting things that didn’t exist.
Or he was just playing Thor. Timeslipping doesn't mean he takes over a previous body that isn't even his universe.
You just reapplied the same retcon that people did after Spiderman: No Way Home with Doctor Octopus.
I really like this theory a lot, but it’s not possible considering when the first Avengers film was made compared to when the Loki series was made. Besides I personally think it was Loki briefly breaking out of the control of the mind stone, and that’s why he says it’s too late to stop it.
I know it’s really either him deceiving Thor or him breaking the Mind Stone’s grasp, but I this is now that scene.
Your pothead theory is adorable, but you're reaching farther than Michael Jordan in Space Jam.
Unfortunately, the people who wrote the first avengers movie had no idea there would be a loki show, and had nothing to do with it. The current ring leaders could certainly try to shoehorn that idea (and it is a good theory, if only), but I really don't think anyone was thinking about anything beyond Thanos.
He could have just met Thor in the elevator in Thor ragnarok. They were just talking.
That’s a huge stretch considering we never see him timeslip outside of the ‘influence’ of he who remains.
Cool theory, just doesn’t hold water imo.
This would required aome ridiculous foreshadowing, so no. Nothing in Phases 4 and 5 were even thought of at this point.
I'm getting tired of people pulling shit out of their ass. Marvel has always had plot holes, even in their good days... just deal with it.
I get why you would you think that but I don't think back then they were thinking 11 years into the future about what they might do with this character. I think it was more about him actually reflecting on what Thor was thinking about all the madness possibly ending up with him on top.
While that’s an interesting theory, it can’t be true. In the scene where he timeslips back to the scene with the ringing phone, and he prunes himself, he is a separate body from his own at that specific time. That would also apply to the battle of New York.
That would be the most stupid moment to travel to.
It just shows he's an anti-hero and not a villian.
At that moment Marvel didn't even know a Loki series would happen
It makes no sense... How Marvel would know that after 12 Years there will be a serial named loki...
So unrealistic and wrong lol
Неа. Просто Локи действительно не хотел делать то, что он делал. Даже когда он напал на Нью Йорк, он не был по-настоящему плохим. Поэтому Тор достучался до него.
I don’t think that he would’ve come back here he would’ve went somewhere more meaningful
Isn't anyone going to talk about the fact that he repeated the word 'LoKi' 10 times within 48 sec😮
But isnt mcu time travelling different to like hp time turner and stuff?
Butterfly effect wouldnt change anything
i don't think so.. when loki couldn't control the time slip, he has duplicate body.. also he time slip to the people who present in the destruction of TVA
I would think its more simple than that, Thor brings back the voice in his head questioning if what he is doing is right but you can see him conclude that he has gone to far. Loki was always forces down the path of the villian by the timeline but part of him never wanted to be the bad guy.