Battle of the Sub-$700 Rifles: Who wins?
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Great video. I have to question the "no Savage" - while I agree that their blued rifles leave questions, however they do offer other barrel finishes. A number of models under $700US. They are known to be accurate, lots of great features ( accutrigger, accustock, accufit) and a very solid aftermarket. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but I don't think it's fair to judge Savage Arms on their entry level Axxis. I believe the Savage Model 110 Storm is sub$700 US (I'm in Canada, so they all cost more here)
Great video but I'd love to see Savage get a fair shake
Good video. Hopefully a $1500 and under review is in the future. Sad to see Ruger’s reputation dwindle over the years. The ‘77 and No. 1 were great rifles with quality and accuracy.
My 77 and my Hawkeye are my favorite hunting rifles that I own!
I don't want to jinx it but the Ruger MPR AR556 runs well. Same with the 10/22. Idk about their bolt guns though.
They’re higher end rifles are still gtg. You buy a budget rifle ( American) from them and you’re going to get budget results.
Ruger American is still a marvelous rifle at its price point, it’s not that the Ruger reputation is dwindling it’s that other have introduced budget rifles of similar quality as competition. Every one of these rifles shown is better then what was available 30 years ago for an entire months salary instead of just a few days to a week worth like they are now.
Rugers reputation is still the best economy gun brand. Quality is great for the price…unbeatable most of the time actually…
It’s just…you can’t compare budget to mid tier/top tier…cause there’s only so much you can manufacture with $300
Nice video once again. It's a real shame that the cost of these rifles has doubled in the last 3 years. Their quality didn't double, or even half again improve.
That's because the dollar has devaluated throughout the last couple of years. It has nothing to do with those rifles' quality.
@@eduardoolaechea Biden.
@@cbsbass4142 right
As much as no one likes Biden, he has little to do with it. Thank the Federal Reserve, for taking us off the gold standard and devaluing the Dollar for about 90 years now. The US Dollar isn't going to last much longer, and we may see hyperinflation in the near future.
It's a shame the price of eggs more than doubled
I just picked up the Begara B14 Hunter in 308 last weekend. It's my first personally owned rifle.
CVA just keeps getting better over the decades. Great video. Thanks for your hard work. Much appreciated.
love to see this compared to slightly more expensive rifles like tikka and bergaras
Yes and they use bergara barrels
Yes, I like BPI Products. Both CVA and Bergara branded.
$699.99 Bergara B14.
$599.99 CVA Cascade.
$499.99 Franchi Momentum
$399.99 (After $100 Rebate) CZ 600 Alpha
Honorable Mention
$295
Springfield 1903A3
22" Douglas Barrel in .35 Whelen
Plain uncheckered Griffin and Howe pattern Walnut Stock.
Redfield Aperture Sight
The last option was just so cool compared to a Savage Axis I had to include it, many old rifles like this lingering in local pawnshops.
The cva cascade has a bergara barrel that's threaded and generally much cheaper than the true bergara. Great gun
Did research on rifles under $1k that I could buy for my first hunting rifle about a year ago or so. All roads lead me to CVA. Then I started looking at videos on YT about the CVA Cascade. Backfire did a review on it that helped me confirm my choice too. I bought a 6.5 CM and have been really happy with it so far. All my friends have shot it at the range and they love the factory trigger. I've gotten compliments on how nice it looks too in the CRKT Blued/Killik K2 Camo pattern I chose. I'm happy to see that it was one of the rifles that came out on top in this video! I knew I made the right decision!
Those that do not own a Cascade do not know what they're missing. It's a wonderful piece that punches above its weight in almost all categories.
I'm really curious about this one. Some of the other CVA bolt actions were really bad. Can you tell me what they did differently on the Cascade? Thanks!
@@hedge7743CVA has never made a bolt action rifle prior to the Cascade. Perhaps you’re thinking of Thompson Center?
Regardless the CVA Cascade is probably one of the best rifles on the market at its price point. Possibly the best.
I just bought one today in 300 winmag
@@stevenmueller7712 They’re a great rifle for the money. I think you’ll be satisfied.
My cva 6.5 prc shoots lights out no complaints
Awesome stuff! thanks so much for all the work you do for us! I'm a little sad that my go wild didn't do better, but I'm glad lower priced rifles are so dang good!
Good video with great information. I subbed. Love the smile while you showing off these cool rifles.
A comparison of the Howa, Ruger American and rem 700 in .223 would be good. They’re the 3 most common “budget” rifles(under $1000AUD) in Australia, love the reviews very in depth
Yep, for some reason 1lb of extra weight means the world to them. Slung well I don’t have an issue with my .308.
I’ve had all 3 tho the rem was a 300 wm
Id say if I had to pick between the 223’s I’d take the howa closely followed by a sharp stick, followed by go fishing, and if I had to take the ruger I’d sell it like I did
And the ruger was twice as much as the howa
Love my Franchi in .243. Used it last 2 deer seasons and got a wall mounter both years ... must be a lucky gun!
I have a CVA Cascade in 300WM, super happy with it. Great breakdown video.
Thanks Jim. I have a Ruger American Ranch that has served me well (6 deer harvested), but from the factory the action was rough. Did some amateur gunsmithing on it which really helped but shouldn’t have been necessary. I’ll recommend my sons consider the Mauser and CVA.
How about a sub $1500 or $1200 video? I think that’s the sweet spot where you can get really good quality stuff but not break the bank.
love this video! in the future it’s be cool to see a compare on premium hunting rifles( fierce, CA, seekins etc…) i also understand they’re very expensive
or even more reviews on fierce arms. not a lot of people review them on youtube.
I really enjoy these videos. I do want to make one statement that hopefully you will like for your viewers.
I bought a used Mossberg Patriot in 300WinMag. It kicks like a mule. I will eventually put a Muzzle Brake on it.
Anyway, I've been working up a load using Nosler 210gr. Accubond LR.
With a different bullets and powder combination, I could get a much better group.
With this combination I am getting .730 groups at 100 yards.
In any of my guns factory or my custom built, I've always had problems getting tight groups with the Accubonds.
Ballistic Tips, Berger or Sierra, I have no problem getting at least .500" out of them.
I may switch it up in the Mossberg Patriot just to see what I can do.
This is a very nice rifle for the money and works amazing. Hope it helps anyone who's curious about it.
Thanks,
Jeff D.
I have a Bergara HMR B-14 I just love. The thing is a tack driver. Thanks for your commitment!!!
Bloody great video champion.. the bergara b14 in some modles has a threaded muzzle and the price is only $50-$150 more than the hunter... here in Australia
I'm surprised there's no savage 110. I know you had a bad switchback. But over all the 110 is a stellar rifle for the under 750 price
I love my CVA Cascade. I have the same one as your test model, and it shoots -7-.8 MOA. I couldn't be happier. 😏 Thanks for your great video.
Well done, well done. This will be such a big vid and helpful to many like the old one was. It helped me buy my next hunting rifle!!!
Just ordered a Tikka t3x stainless in 6.5cm based on your "under $750" video which I will be building up for long range target shooting. Thankyou for these videos
Always appreciate you and your wife's hard work making these videos! 🥳🥳🥳
Great review, thanks for the information!
Great review man! Would love to see a review on the browning ab3 hunter in .308
If I’m not mistaken all the CVA guns use bergara barrels
Great video. Thanks for all of yr time and testing that you put in. Very helpful 👍I have a question..... What's yr thoughts on the Remington model 700 ,7 mm magnum with the 26 inch barrel??
Great video with lots of data. I can’t imagine how long it took to accumulate all this data. Thank you. It’s unfortunate there wasn’t a Savage 110 in the mix. They make some rifles at this price point. But, oh well. Great work!
I agree, that's what I was looking for. Unfortunately, all the stainless versions are over the price limit by a fair bit and he DQ'd the non-stainless versions for rust issues. I'm curious if it's only the Axis series that rust or all of them? The Savage 110 Desert Tactical sure looks good at just a pinch over $700.
@brandi wynter In my experience it is just the Axis. The 110's and 111's are solid.
@@hedge7743 My first hunting rifle was a Savage 116 FCSS "Weather Warrior" .30-06 which I eventually sold and bought the exact same rifle with the new (at the time) Accu-stock. Now they have the Accu-fit stock but the guns are too pricey these days for me to upgrade again. I've always owned the stainless steel versions. I'm definitely a Savage fan girl.
@@brandiwynter i have the 110 tactical in 6.5 cm and i haven’t had any issues with rust on it. To be fair i live and shoot in a super dry climate. It is a good shooter for sure. Also it has mine has extremely light trigger out of the box which i love. The main issue I’ve had with it is having to replace the extractor spring and ball bearing
I’ve never had a rust issue with any Axis I’ve owned (4 now).
I have a CVA Cascade in 350L and it is always a joy to shoot
I recently bought a Howa 1500, fitted to a GRS Fenris stock. Haven't been unhappy for a minute. Took it hunting this year (Karoo,South Africa) and was very satisfied.
Hey, Backfire! I can’t tell you how much I alleviate the work you put into your videos, and the incredible knowledge and testimony you offer!
That being said, I’ve got a questioning was hoping you’d see and be able to answer. With your help, I’ve come to be torn between buying the CVA Cascade and the Weatherby Vanguard. They each one head to head competitions from your comparison contests and I’m wondering, which would you suggest between the two? Seems impossible to choose. I’m looking thinking specifically 30-06, if that matters towards your judgement.
Thanks for the hours of great videos I’ve reached this week after discovering you!
The best gun channel on TH-cam! Love the hands on reviews!
This is a follow up to my previous review of the Mauser M18. After refinish ING the barrel and stiffening the stock I sighted it in today. I was amazed at the accuracy of this rifle. This rifle makes me look like an expert. Mauser you need to improve the externals but the accuracy and trigger are excellent
I will be keeping this rifle!!
Tikka must have just barely been over that $700 price tag.
I was wondering, tikka can kill them all
Tikkas are like 850 bro
I have a Tikka CTR I bought for $649 like four years ago. Kinda hard to find those short-barreled Tikkas nowadays
He wanted it to be a competition
Most tikkas I see around where I live is usually 900 to 1000
Das Original! Wunderbar! I bought mine in .30-06 and I love it. Great rifle.
I think the new Remington rifles should get a shot. I recently purchased the new ADL, and I can say at least for my rifle, it is MUCH improved over the 2007-2022 Remington.
Good to hear that!
I bought a CVA cascade for my son in law. I was so impressed with it I bought myself one in the short barrel 308 win Model. It is great.
"...happy he got a 4 on a test" made me spit hot coffee on myself. 😂
This review is very pertinent and on point for the majority of shooters.
I think you nailed the "Average American" price point on this one! Yes, i do know people with 1K+ rifles, but they are the minority. (I only own one) Thanks for adding the Howa disclaimer! I would take one and suggest one in a heartbeat. Thanks, Jim!
Yeah the Howa 1500 is great. Just picked up a full dip in .308. for me the weight isn't a concern because I'm going to use it mainly for target shooting. But I am also in the market for a smaller caliber. CVA Cascade was at the top of my list and this review helps solidify that decision over some of the other offerings.
I got a vanguard in part for that extra pound, it’s for hunting and is in 7 rem mag so didn’t want it to be to light. I’d like it to be enjoyable enough to shoot that it’s not a struggle to put in the appropriate trigger time to be on my A game for my elk hunts.
Outstanding review, appreciate your hard work and $. Right now Mauser M18 rifles are listed over $900 everywhere I looked. Now that's some serious inflation!
Glad I bought mine 2 years ago $450 brand new lol 😅
@@brett7794👍I ended up with a Cascade XT under $700 shipped because of this video. No complaints
just purchased mine...$1250- Australia
Dude my CVA is absolute amazing! I’m pulling 2 moa at 300 yards! It’s an incredible quality rifle and the trigger is the best for the price period! You’ll never want to return a CVA cascade!!
Caliber and cartridge would be useful info!
6 inches at 300yd isn't that great 🤔
@@redrock425
I don’t think he understands how MOA works. I think he’s talking about 2 inch groups at 300 yards.
I own a CVA Cascade in 6.5 PRC. It’s truly a tack driver and I can consistently hit under MOA at 1000 yards. I have several rifles that are more expensive than the $600 I spent on the CVA, yet it out performs all of them. Granted, the CVA is chambered for the 6.5, and that cartridge is made for accuracy.
That`s the way to do a comparison review. My only complaint with Ruger (All Rugers) is the shitty triggers. CVA for the win!
Howa 1500/ Weatherby Vangaurd have got to me my favorite in this category. Most Howa 1500's come with a threaded barrel and come in shorter configurations which edges them out for me.
Got my 1500 scoped (cheap nikko sterling but it works) in 6.5prc a few months back for 398 bucks. Jumped 200 bucks a few days later but so far I love this thing.
I’ve been very happy with my CVA cascade in 7mm REM Mag.
You do really well at this. Never stop bud
Bergara b14 comes factory threaded in New Zealand! Mine did
I love my Mauser M18 in 308. I bought it back in 2018 when they were first available, it had no sub models, only came in about 5 calibers, and didn't have a threaded barrel. I bought a Mossberg Patriot Revere in 300 WM when I moved to Alaska a few years ago thinking it would replace my Mauser. But the accuracy at even 100 yards doesn't even come close to my Mauser. So I still use my M18 for large game I thought I'd use my Patriot for because I'd rather have that reliable shot placement over the more powerful cartridge.
That mauser is really a nice little rifle. I’ve had mine on two hunts already. Looking forward to this years springbuck hunt
Spring buck hunt! where do you live ?
@@mikes8915That will be South Africa
Damn lucky we only get 2 weeks in November to deer hunt. Also I didn't know you guys could have guns
I missed the one springbuck I got a shot on, but got two blesbuck instead. The wind was crazy.
We can hunt whole year round on private game fenced farms, and other places it’s about 4 months hunting season.
You should try a browning ab 3
Outstanding.
Thanks for sharing 👍
nice content!! Thank you sir!
Wondering if you ever figured out the wandering elevation issue with that scope? I've got a Loopy as well and noticed same thing
Using factory ammo I got 1.25 MOA with my mossberg patriots with the vortex crossfires that came on them. After upgrading the scope I consistently shoot .75 to 1.0 MOA at 100 yards. I have the gun in both 30-06 and 308. May be hit and miss on gun quality, could be I just found the ammo my guns like, but I seem to have gotten two different quality ones. I have had the 30-06 for almost 3 years and the 308 for a year.
Rustoleum spray paint works great on a Savage Axis barrell. Add a netting sleeve and use the camo color after the initial coat/ not removing the netting until it dries adds a good cosmetic touch& the rust problem is over.
More accurate rifle cheap.
What about the Browning AB3? I got the Hunter model with a walnut stock for just over $500. Shoots MOA, pretty lightweight and is much better built than the plastic junk like the Savage or Ruger. Browning doesn't sell throw-away rifles.
Also the Sauer 100 comes with a wooden stock and has the same build as the Mauser 18 but a lot better finish.
I learned from handloading if you want more accuracy ammo is the most important I got a like new savage 110 and it just couldn't group like my husqvarna could, I took up handloading and now at 100 yards with the same gun I can put shots threw the same hole
How would you feel about doing a comparison of the next price bracket up? Lots of good stuff around the $1,000. Would be very interested in hearing what you think of a Model 70 or a CZ 600 Lux.
I figured CVA did something like buy the rights to the ThmpsonnCentdr design and update it. Looking at it more closely, I note that it has the "open" top ejection port of more traditional rifles. Very impressed and if I was in the market, I would look hard at their offering.
When I last checked Kimber's not even offering a Walnut Stock anymore, but still want too much. for the few styles they have left. I just started buying used Savage 110s and Stevens 200s with old style slotted lock nuts and ordering new barrels for them, then slapping on Timney triggers. I try to get blind magazines then I don't have to worry about cheap plastic magazines. I kinda like the Bergara B-14 Timber (only for the Walnut) but would not consider any of the rest you have there. DO not want a threaded muzzle, but to each his own. If I can't build my old Savages, I'll just hold out for the Winchester Model 70 Featherweights. Or order a semi-custom MkVII from Shaw.
Im happy with a Ruger American or a Cva Cascade!
I would’ve liked to have seen a Browning AB3 added to the test.
agreed
Just sanded down the magazine lip on my ruger American and it’s run perfect ever since. A less than 5 minute fix isn’t too bad for the price of the rifle.
I do like these videos. “Cheap” rifles can, and do, shoot well, and some just don’t cut it. I had feeding issues with my Ruger American 22-250, antil I worked out that you have to rack it like it owes you money; don’t be nice to it, and it’s OK, but it can be a bit of a Treasure Hunt picking up your brass. Cheers from Down Under
I gave my brother a Mauser M18 chambered in 30.06 and he loves it. Its dead accurate and with the Vortex scope I put on it that gun shoots as well as the Remington 700 I had. I have a Howa 1500 chambered in .308 and much like the Mauser it too shoots really well. I put the same Vortex scope on it as my brothers 30.06 which is a pretty good combo for under $1500.00.
Some of the basic Savage 110 models might fit in this group, better than an Axis.
Could you make a video on the franchi please using the different ammo?
The cascade does not have a quality mag. It may feed, but I have personally seen how loading one up made the bottom fall out of the plastic mag.
Best review on the net! Merry Christmas
in my 243 mouser m18, the bolt has a problem with winchester ammo, it wont grab the spent cartridge or when it does it drops half way, it rarely rejects, hornady is prefect
You should try the Sauer 100 as well. Priced at about the same as the mauser
Do you have a review of the CZ center fire rifles? They have a decently priced wood version, although couldn’t find much review wise online.
I have a CVA Cascade in 350 Legend that get sub moa groups at 100 yards shooting Winchester 150 grain extreme point ammo.
I have been looking for a .350 legend for hunting in Ohio. Thanks for confirming my research. Also, would love to see the Sauer XT 100 included in these tests.
Found one in Ohio at fin feather fur not too long ago, had the cascade and cascade xt in 350 legend, great shooter. And it likes the Winchester rounds, who_tee_who has a video of 350 legend rounds different brands on the cascade
I have a savage 110 in the 350 legand like he said in the video winchester ammo is not very good but I get a .75 inch group at 100 with hornady whitetail and. 80 with the Barnes vortex
'kid came back with a 4 and I said wheres the other 96%?' LMAO
Great video. Really enjoy watching your channel. You gave the Bergara B14 Hunter an A+. Glad yours shoots good. I purchased one in 22-250 that won’t shoot anywhere near a 1 inch group. Sent it back to Bergara and they say nothing wrong with rifle. I have tried Hornady factory ammo as well as different hand loads with different grain bullets. I now have an expensive piece of wall decor
You sure it's not you?
So you are either shooting ammo that the rifle doesn't like or you are not shooting it well, easy
Since my other 2 rifles shoot less than a .3 inch group not all me
@@user-ht7lg5vh8m so why bergara didn't replace it if a sniper like you can't make it group 🤔
I find myself watching your videos regularly I can honestly say that I think you’re doing a very good job. I enjoyed your podcast with Ron.. I own a Proof Reserch Tundra, which I absolutely love Shooting. However that rifle is now $7700 I believe. It is an incredible shot with hand loads that were created for me. I’ve done some .02 inch groups.(honestly Factory 143ELDX is less than a quarter of an inch behind in grouping)Probably more to do with the rifle. I have recently been talking to Hill, country rifle,‘s here in Texas. They have a rifle that they build off the tikka action. I would like this rifle chambered in 7 mm PRC. They guarantee their rifles 1/2 MOA or better with factory ammo. I find this pretty amazing. I do know people rather two people that own them and enjoy them. Could you give me any insight that you may know on the company and or rifle? It would be the Huntsman with a 20 inch benchmark barrel, number five contour. .(The 22 inch carbon fiber Proof is probably 3 1/2 to 4 months out, and I would like to take this on a Odad hunt on 1 June). This one would not be built on the defiance action, that one is roughly the same price as the Proof Reserch. I’ve learned a lot about this Tika action through you and others and it looks to be very good. This will be a $4700 rifle with no scope. I would like your professional opinion or what I consider a professional opinion from you if you don’t mind. Thank you in advance. T
Would love to see a review on the cz 600. Price is pretty similar to these riffles
Where are the 22-250’s with threaded barrels and 1:12 twist!?
If I am not mistaken the Mauser has a fixed/welded/stamped barrel that cannot be exchanged.
I called that, that’s cool. I don’t own a CVA but that could change in the future.
Here in Europe we don't use suppressors and staff like that cos they are mostly illegal in EU...Bergara is my favorite ,and next one to buy. I'm thinking being the Spanish rifle and made for EU they didn't bother to put treds on it.
I've just purchased a Mauser M18 223 in stainless .... will be keen to try it out when it comes off hold.
I bought a Savage model 10 Police for 300 bucks in 2018. Love this thing!!
What chassis will fit the CVA cascade?? Looking to upgrade to something more adjustable
Bought m18 in 6.5 pprc and love it. Very accurate . Also bought CVA Cascade in 308. Hated 150 grain ammo. Only 165 grain federal sierra match was accurate.. Finally tried Remington corelock tipped in 165 and viola half minute groups
Could you review Browning AB3? There’s some rifles that gets buried by other “popular” rifles.
Can you possibly do this test again on the Ruger American with the MAG PUL stock? I love it. Ruger's customer service is fantastic too.
the first rifle i bought was a standard ruger american about 10 years ago if not more, and i have had 0 issues with it. i have used it a ton and have had a pellet gun scope on it the whole time. i get sub .5 moa at 100 yards. prolly my most accurate and reliable rifle still today. no upgrades. only thing i can say that is a negative is that during hunting season it can rust quite fast if you don’t take care of it when it’s cold and wet outside.
guess quality control might be the issue for some. i might have gotten their best of the bunch while others can get crappy rifles. they are very cheap so that might be how they cut on cost
I still love the XPR. The trigger might be heavier than some others, but it has no pre-travel/creep and breaks nicely. Maybe I just have a good copy. I'm looking for a nice wood stock version in 7mm-08. You should test the browning xbolt western hunter in 6.8 western. That is also on my wants list.
Funny, we get all those here in Australia except the CVA. Once in a long while a black powder cva will pop up but no centrefire
I've got Remington 783 in 223rem and Tikka T3 in 204r and Ruger American in 22-250..😅 Happy with all of them 😊
Can’t believe you left out Weatherby Vanguard obsidian. Sub MOA , $549. ???
Will you do a video on the new Stevens Model 334?
What rifle do you recommend for a 350 legend and or a 450 bushmaster
Hello, I follow your channel and you really are amazing with weapons, I have always really liked rifles and hunting since my uncles had them when I was a child, I live in the Netherlands but here it is not very easy to acquire weapons. I'm from Spain and I've been thinking about how much I can get my weapons permit. I like Tikkas and Bergaras, really, which one would you recommend?
Would be cool if you could make a review of the Mossberg Patriot LR Hunter (some of their $700 offerings) , got one in 300 Win Mag and I'm getting 1 MOA sometimes sub MOA. Maybe the issue is isolated to .308 but would be nice if you could try 6.5 Creedmoor or 300 Win Mag.
I have a Patriot in .243 and it is sub MOA consistently.
Im quite happy with my Mauser M18 Waldjagd edition. I dont think they sell it in the States but its a M18 with an improoved trigger and a 51cm semi weight barrel. It is heavy and the weight distribution is pretty off but thats all i can citicise for a gun in this price bracket. Also comes with a nice deep green stock. To bad it rarely sees daylight since i got my be all, end all hunting rifle the Blaser R8 Ultimate. The R8 is nice and light with 52cm standard weight barrel and it shoots 0.25moa all day. Straight pull, insanely ergonomic stock. Highly recommended.
Savage axis 2 iv had for a while shoots great and hard to beat for price.