HEMA harness knight fighting with half swording and grapples
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 มี.ค. 2022
- A series of exchanges from a recent training session with Norwich HEMA Society.
Filmed at St Margaret's Church, Norwich. This is a deconsecrated church, which we hire for training.
When people debate whether or not half-swording was effective/safe/practical, videos like this demonstrate just how vital of a technique it really was.
It's rather not without armor lol.
@@daxasd3270 obviously it’s purpose is to combat armor
@@daxasd3270 well, there are times I closed off indoors spaces where half swording is really good even unarmored
What I find interesting about medieval combat is how Plate armor eventually got so effective and Flexible that Knights would simply let themselves be hit cause they knew they'd be able to take it
Because historically accurate plate armor dont get pierced like paper
When I played Kingdom Come: Deliverance and got Henry kitted out with strong plate armor I did the same thing haha
There are indeed times where a knight could choose to take a blow to the plates because the armour could take it. It allows riskier behaviour than being without armour. An example being choose to attacked instead of defend a blow knowing your armour can take the hit but your opponent cannot. A "double" ( both fighters scoring a hit) is likely to favour the better armoured opponent
BOI, PLATE ARMOR IS ESSENTIALLY FULL BODY SHIELD.
@@daxasd3270 basically
There are some really interesting dynamics here. The lack of peripheral vision allows for some sneaky thrusts like the one that went under the gorget.
I like it.
That murder stroke went about as well as expected
Yeah I don’t understand the fixation on the murder stroke. It’s a option not best option but an option.
Love the technique, and love the harnesses.
I am considering saving up for a late 15th century Itailan export armor. However I am not 100% sure what style the armor should be.
I am considering an English style Itailan export because I intend to fight mostly on foot.
Thank you. Our armour is a work in progress really, as we are always trying to improve it. Good luck on your own quest to get kitted out.
thonk
Yes
I’ve been wondering, is it practical and do we know if knights used their sword normally to target their opponent’s sword with range to gain leverage over it before half swording to close in on an armor gap?
Obviously with full swording you’re not really going to have the point control necessary to hurt a man in full plate, but I think it’s useful for the range in the weapon control phase of a fight.
That slide into the chink of his armour at 0:24 was crazy af.
That was a game changer.
As intended.
And that's how they killed eachother back then.
rip ma boy
I imagine real full plate armor fighting involved two knights hunched over with daggers trying to stab each other in the groin.
It certainly would have been scrappy and brutal 😬
That's why they had ye olde hammer
0:4 - 0:13 what type armor is this? Please response I want to know
It's a suit of late 15th century English armor featuring the grand bascinet. It's usually reconstructed from tomb effigies.
@@mattpeterson1185 Ok thanks
Silly question, why is there no mail under that armour to cover the gaps?
Historically there absolutely should be, this is just a stripped down set up for training.
@@norwich_hema_society Thanks for the answer - that makes sense.
almost seems better to have a nice heavy hilt guard you can punch with instead of turning it around as a bendy club.
Fighting in a Church would have been considered sacrilegious in the medieval times.
No. It's God's will.
@@panos617Yeah, it really isn't.
@@Kieranos Thank you!
What is the music ?
Requiem for a dream
Crazy ho the sword can go under the helmet with this technique
Good video, poor choice of music. Requiem for a Dream has been done to bits and doesn't really fit a training spar montage
Yeah, probably wasn't my best choice but thank you for liking the video itself
I know when I do HEMA I like to move as slowly as possible right up on the cameraman so you can't see anything and look as unimpressive as possible.
These guys really know how to make content. *eye roll*
I think you guys missed something vital, you did not use swords against armor, they used maces, and heavy axes for crush damage.
That's not strictly true. The sword was a secondary weapon but a knight had to be proficient in fighting in armour with a sword, including against other armoured combatants. That was why half swording was developed
@@norwich_hema_society True enough, but you see, like today, it existed talkers and fighters. Talkers liked to look good on the outside with a fancy beautiful sword, and then it existed warriors who could fight for real.
This is just human nature, and swords were mostly like nice watches are now-something to brag in front of the ladies with.
@@youareacoward8459 Swords were flashy and not optimal against plate armor, but they were also good backup weapons being versatile and easy to carry. A knight's primary weapon (mace, poleaxe, whatever) tended to be bulky. Going into battle with a second one could hinder their performance, whereas a sword is light enough and could be sheathed in a position where it wouldn't get in the way.
@@youareacoward8459 a great video from ScholaGladitoria on this topic: th-cam.com/video/P_alPt7OIVw/w-d-xo.html
@@youareacoward8459 this is a case of the pendulum swords were a status symbol yes, but that doesn't mean they weren't functional or that they weren't used, they were very much used for dueling and in some cases on the battlefield as well, this is well attested historically.
Requiem for a dream ._.
Is this sword fight
Better leave sword and take hammer
Nooo! Yall can't fight in a church! That is hallowed ground! 😂
Fear not, it has been deconsecrated for secular usage ( including sword fighting) 😁
@@norwich_hema_society 😂😂😂👍👍👍