Part 2 is here and I'll tackle Echo Wave Dragon in part 3 of my guide series. Thanks for watching ! EDIT: at 03:42 in the "Part" tab, you can see that the echo waves have a higher multiplier than other moves. They deal more damage to a monster's part so that's why you see them staggering monsters so much (helps with breaking parts). Timestamps: Start 00:00 The basics 00:57 How to land the waves 5:38 The HH shuffle 7:29 Echo Attack VS Echo Waves 08:26 Wave Combos 10:59 Never use those 11:11 Good Recitals: 12:22 Good Encore follow-ups: 14:01 How many waves should you play : 14:59 The Wake up: 16:11 Closing thoughts: 17:28
GREEN SCREEN GANG WHERE WE AT?! Great guide, Deus! I hope that this guide will finally encourage people to use the Echo Impact Waves much more liberally in combination with Spin2Wins as it is one of the most important yet underutilized tool that we have in our arsenal. What a great time to be a hunting horn player in Iceborne!
For monsters that sleep with their heads too near a wall, do a forward recital INTO the wall. Turn ~90 degrees, forward encore slightly away from the head and readjust accordingly. The Hunting Horn Triple Impact Wake Up requires less space than GS TCS Wake Up and is way easier to land especially when ledges and slopes are factored in. You also roll cancel out of its ending animation faster than TCS which allows you to still clutch claw and wall slam some monsters.
This is such a beautiful series of work and you can really feel the love. Thank you. I was trying to learn how and when to use IEW and then this popped up on my phone. Such a challenging and rewarding weapon🎷🎶🎵🎶!
Thanks for the videos, I've used HH for a lot of the older gen content, but i dont have too much mhw practice. Your content has helped me transition to this gen.
We just got the second part of Attacking & Positioning by Taxman and now this awesome guide from our HH master Amadeus. SO much love for Hunting Horn! Great Job on this one, keep it up :)
I don't main hunting horn... but know the great feeling of landing a backwards recital. This video's production value is sooo high lol. It's so cute and fun. Thanks for cutting all of this together and adding your character to it.
Your guide is excellent. I'll have to watch it a couple of times to learn all the info you shared, but i have to say- Your character is just so beautiful.
Not many pple know about HH's wakeup tech, hard to apply on multi, not many will allow us t.t But when you get to use it, oh man, so satisfying. Thx for this Deus, it's amazing!!
I am a HH main, and this is just top notch advices. I was never consistent with landing my echo waves but that is cause I uncore to the front and backwards often. Gonna do encores to the left now to secure the encore wave! Thanks AmaDEUS!!!
So i was a hunting horn main back when MHW first came out, but I got out of the game after the friends I played it with stopped playing. Now that another friend of ours picked it up, and iceborne went on sale, i got back into it, and there's no better time to be a Dootstick player. Much love and many thanks for the easy to understand tutorial
You know I've been getting bored of iceborne lately. But watching your videos have made me want to play again and get back into it. I've taken a hiatus from melee for a while now. But I think I'll make an exception for HH. I loved HH in MH4U and became a main towards the end of its life cycle. Felt good KO'ing 140 apex rajang and teo's.
Masterful tutorial, explanations and editing. Well done, You should have triple the amount of subs but at least you have one more as of today. Subscribed =)
Every time you make a video I try out your tips and immediately see the results. It feels amazing honestly. I hope the next MH keeps the echo wave notes because they're my favorite thing about the weapon.
First, i love your videos and I enjoy the HH so much cause of u, Griffted and MHW PH Elites. Only thing to say, is that i tried to do de movest with a hack to verify MVs and i discovered that Impatc is not 50 but 52'5 (105 and 157'5 levels 2 and 3), dragons are quite weird cause of conversion from raw into elemental for those maths. If u want i can pass the data sheet on discord or something.
Also for the wakeup, Have you tried forward recital next to the monsters head, into forward encore, and then turning the horn 90 degrees. The hunting horn turns so fast while playing encores that I find it is the best way to wakeup, especially in tiny spaces. The wakeup is also very easy to pull off because i find that the echo wave seems to “snap” to the head hitbox if it’s going to hit multiple ones - it seems to prioritize hitting the head over other parts.
Just a sidenote: quick recital into EW is amazing at taking down flying monsters. Setting up the combo is extremely difficult since you have to basically do 2 attacks (leftswing and hiltstab) before you can even start playing, but if you predict the monster properly it’s deadly. I’ve KO’d a rathalos in mid air by hitting him with a quick recital echo wave.
This is a really helpful video, thank you so much! Which weapons have higher priority on wakeup compared to Hunting Horn? And is Triple Echo Wave still the best wakeup if you're using an elemental horn?
I don't know anything about HH, so I guess this is informative? Should be, it's the best HH player around talking after all! I'm here just to say MOGA VILLAGE MUSIC OOOOOOHHHHH
i feel bad cause. these HH pros make the best guides. while other weapons guides sux. :( no one can compare to HH quality weapon guides. i feel like becoming an HH main just cause of these juicy highly informative guides.
"Don't use the forward, back, and side" They are still useful. They are better used for scenarios where you need to move. Back recital is basically your backstep and can slam short jabd mondters will do. Side recitals are useful as side step counters
Personally, I disagree. Forward is really not that great considering the long animation. Back and side recitals have a purpose, yes, but they are overshadowed by other options. And for what it's worth, in speedruns from top HH players, we never see those moves used...ever. I think this is quite telling.
I've found something interesting about Hunting Horn's impact wave attack. While attack boosting skills, charms, and songs increases the impact wave damage, the skill bludgeoner does not affect the increase in impact wave damage as your weapon loses sharpness. Even though you still get the attack power increase to your weapon as your sharpness gauge drops down past a certain level, your impact wave attack damage does not increase. Really is too bad. Capcom implements a skill in the game that does not perform well (or even work) in its intended use.
The damage of the waves doesn't take sharpness into account. That's why bludgeoner isn't working. It doesn't matter if you have purple or green. The waves will deal the same amount of damage.
@@Doos The impact wave isn't dependent on sharpness, but it shows that it benefits from attack stat increase. So, I can't understand why not the attack boost from the bludgeoner skill apply as well to increasing the total impact wave damage? All other attack boosting methods consistently show an increase in the total impact wave damage, except for the attack boost from the bludgeoner skill.
This attack needs a serious buff. It should stack with sharpness and affinity, really. It's such a difficult song to stack 3 times when the monster is attacking without corner horning or when doing TA, and yet it only does a little more damage than raw echo attacks and is eclipsed by elemental echo attacks.
The main use of the song is to cause KO. It matches the damage echo waves without tearing through sharpness(granted he's running a master's touch build). That combo does nearly 260 ko damage vs just the 75 of the echo wave combo. Echo wave dragon is the recital dps song but only for monsters weak against dragon.
Honestly I like that it doesnt crit or scale with sharpness. It gives it something that makes it unique and different to horns other moves. And the fact that it does do more damage, even a little, just serves to give a more varied playstyle and more options when the opportunity presents itself.
But i get that it's a powerhouse in cases where you're forced to use low sharpness and no affinity, like in arena quests or any% runs. Man, everything just had to be a crit meta.
@@interneddsupreme3810 echo wave dragon does more damage than the echo wave. I personally use the safi drakhorn(Attack 4 melody) with safi/brachi armor. That gives me a strong ko attack that doesn't sacrifice damage. I typically use echo wave dragon for the wake ups but it is the strongest dps you can do.
@@alexcompositionflat impact echo wave still does more damage when you play 3 of them together. Dragon tends to be stronger when you play one on it's own, but the damage starts to fall off when you put them together
I was always wondering what's the difference of impact echo wave and echo wave dragon. and which is more efficient. also why only dragon(assuming this is an elemental attack) and no other elements. I guess this will be answered in the 3rd video
Hi AmaDEUS. I'm a PC player. I was watching the HH shuffle but I can't understand how you can do it because when you play the song you did first Neutral recital (hit), foward - (hit) -Natural position but in the middle of the foward and natural position you did not press the R2 to activate the melody but you did an impact (hit). How that is posible? I was trying for hours on the computer but i couldn't. (BTW: I am a new player)
Hey ! The hilt stab is mainly to save time. If you can't get the full duration of a topple (let's say you had to reposition or walk to get to the monster) it's nice. For raw HH the damage is pretty weak so if it doesn't save you time, right swing is better. For elemental HH, the hilt stab is quite strong actually and it's worth landing.
Hey man great videos! Can you do a guide on what to build with hunting horns ? I just started Iceborne and I'm really lost as to what armor to get, what hunting horn and what skills are best. Thank you !!
Either Master’s Touch or Protective Polish, because spin to win damages the heck out of sharpness. 5 piece Safi because of the giant element and affinity boost, if you’re using element. Agitator secret if you’re using raw, cuz it’s busted. Then your regular cqc attacker skills, plus horn maestro. 3 Weakness Exploit, 3 Critical Boost, Agitator, Resentment if you’re using Safi’s set, Attack Boost or your weapons elemental attack up, and enough crit eye to reach 100%.
I haven’t taken a look at motion values from other weapons, but 150 seems like a lot compared to the motion values of the other moves HH has (I.e. super pound at 39)
Numbers Wong I’m guessing the lvl 3 encore makes it second next to tcs? Also how do you know this, did you just compare the highest motion values from each weapon?
As impact waves arent affected by element, and safi weapons can get very high raw, they are still the better choice if you want to focus on waves. They're also the better choice for most general gameplay as they give a lot of customisability and flexability for builds.
Ok guys fine I’ll be the pervert I’m not gonna lie I had a hard time focusing on the techniques because of them big old you know let’s just say bubbles 😂😂 but seriously great video
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Part 2 is here and I'll tackle Echo Wave Dragon in part 3 of my guide series. Thanks for watching !
EDIT: at 03:42 in the "Part" tab, you can see that the echo waves have a higher multiplier than other moves. They deal more damage to a monster's part so that's why you see them staggering monsters so much (helps with breaking parts).
Timestamps:
Start 00:00
The basics 00:57
How to land the waves 5:38
The HH shuffle 7:29
Echo Attack VS Echo Waves 08:26
Wave Combos 10:59
Never use those 11:11
Good Recitals: 12:22
Good Encore follow-ups: 14:01
How many waves should you play : 14:59
The Wake up: 16:11
Closing thoughts: 17:28
Spectacular guide , thanks for all ur effort . That intro deserves a loop of 10 minutes hitting monsters in the head Whit pure sound
i hope u dun mind me borrowing the knowledge and putting it into my steam guide, its requires an update!
@@silvisakeru Hello ! I do not. Spreading the knowledge is appreciated :).
@@Doos I cant find part 3
Can u send me the link?
GREEN SCREEN GANG WHERE WE AT?!
Great guide, Deus! I hope that this guide will finally encourage people to use the Echo Impact Waves much more liberally in combination with Spin2Wins as it is one of the most important yet underutilized tool that we have in our arsenal. What a great time to be a hunting horn player in Iceborne!
Editing is so nice! Audio quality is top notch as well. Great job Deus - really impressive stuff here
3:18 Holy cow. I didn't realise the mouth of the skull moving. That is so epic!
First time seeing it as well. Definitely makes this bone HH more appealing.
Moga village theme gives me the feeling of being at home
noSTALRIHIGIA
For monsters that sleep with their heads too near a wall, do a forward recital INTO the wall.
Turn ~90 degrees, forward encore slightly away from the head and readjust accordingly. The Hunting Horn Triple Impact Wake Up requires less space than GS TCS Wake Up and is way easier to land especially when ledges and slopes are factored in.
You also roll cancel out of its ending animation faster than TCS which allows you to still clutch claw and wall slam some monsters.
This is such a beautiful series of work and you can really feel the love. Thank you. I was trying to learn how and when to use IEW and then this popped up on my phone. Such a challenging and rewarding weapon🎷🎶🎵🎶!
Thanks for the videos, I've used HH for a lot of the older gen content, but i dont have too much mhw practice. Your content has helped me transition to this gen.
We just got the second part of Attacking & Positioning by Taxman and now this awesome guide from our HH master Amadeus. SO much love for Hunting Horn! Great Job on this one, keep it up :)
So glad the HH is getting love from the master. Amazing explanation, answers everything about this move!
I love the Dorohedoro ED at the beginning. Great Vid!
I don't main hunting horn... but know the great feeling of landing a backwards recital. This video's production value is sooo high lol. It's so cute and fun. Thanks for cutting all of this together and adding your character to it.
Great video. You put great effort into illustrating your points. HH is one of my mains, and I still learned a few things👍
Thanks for another amazing and informative guide Deus :D Loving the editing and pacing of the video - you're really making a guide in your own style!
Your guide is excellent. I'll have to watch it a couple of times to learn all the info you shared, but i have to say- Your character is just so beautiful.
Not many pple know about HH's wakeup tech, hard to apply on multi, not many will allow us t.t But when you get to use it, oh man, so satisfying. Thx for this Deus, it's amazing!!
Ikr it’s so satisfying seeing 1300 - 1450 to pop up
I am a HH main, and this is just top notch advices. I was never consistent with landing my echo waves but that is cause I uncore to the front and backwards often. Gonna do encores to the left now to secure the encore wave! Thanks AmaDEUS!!!
Your video improving a lot.
And as usual, your explanation is easy to understand with great english pronociation.
Love it so much!
I know we HH are very few, but thank for the hard work. These animations are super accurate and clean.
So i was a hunting horn main back when MHW first came out, but I got out of the game after the friends I played it with stopped playing. Now that another friend of ours picked it up, and iceborne went on sale, i got back into it, and there's no better time to be a Dootstick player. Much love and many thanks for the easy to understand tutorial
I give this video a 10/10 in every category
Thanks for the content!
Wow thanks for the triple echo waves wakeup! didn't even think about that. Thank you!
Impact echo wave hits like a freaking truck. And that huge glowing bubble is very satisfying
HH main here, your videos are phenomenal. Keep them coming!
What a great video. So informative and the edit is amazing!
You know I've been getting bored of iceborne lately. But watching your videos have made me want to play again and get back into it. I've taken a hiatus from melee for a while now. But I think I'll make an exception for HH. I loved HH in MH4U and became a main towards the end of its life cycle. Felt good KO'ing 140 apex rajang and teo's.
finally, this was what I was looking for, good stuff. Subscribed!!
Great video, Deus, and beautifully put together, too.
Masterful tutorial, explanations and editing. Well done, You should have triple the amount of subs but at least you have one more as of today. Subscribed =)
Every time you make a video I try out your tips and immediately see the results. It feels amazing honestly.
I hope the next MH keeps the echo wave notes because they're my favorite thing about the weapon.
The quick recital is very usefull for when the monster is standing back up, so you can still hit the head
Amazing guide Amadeus.. As usally, master ! Bon travail !
Thank you for the video. Can’t wait for a part two.
First, i love your videos and I enjoy the HH so much cause of u, Griffted and MHW PH Elites. Only thing to say, is that i tried to do de movest with a hack to verify MVs and i discovered that Impatc is not 50 but 52'5 (105 and 157'5 levels 2 and 3), dragons are quite weird cause of conversion from raw into elemental for those maths. If u want i can pass the data sheet on discord or something.
Hello ! Oh that's very interesting. Feel free to DM me with the information ! I would appreciate it.
Love the Fire emblem music one of my favorites
Thank you for showing how the Hunting Horns "Support" monsters to an early grave.
Can not wait for the Echo Wave Dragon video.
I can't find it. Is it out yet?
The editing in this vid is on god tier
Also for the wakeup, Have you tried forward recital next to the monsters head, into forward encore, and then turning the horn 90 degrees. The hunting horn turns so fast while playing encores that I find it is the best way to wakeup, especially in tiny spaces. The wakeup is also very easy to pull off because i find that the echo wave seems to “snap” to the head hitbox if it’s going to hit multiple ones - it seems to prioritize hitting the head over other parts.
Incredible work man!
Damn dont you play that moga village theme, gonna make me cry
Awesome guide bro! Thanks for sharing.
Waking the monsters up by making LOUD noise right in their face and shatter their ear drum, I like it.
Another great video! Glad I mastered echo wave wake up :)
Just a sidenote: quick recital into EW is amazing at taking down flying monsters. Setting up the combo is extremely difficult since you have to basically do 2 attacks (leftswing and hiltstab) before you can even start playing, but if you predict the monster properly it’s deadly. I’ve KO’d a rathalos in mid air by hitting him with a quick recital echo wave.
A beautiful video as always
Amazing guide. It helped me a lot!
You are the best man, great stuff 🎷🎼🎶🎼
Very well done.
Awesome Video.
Thank you. :)
I don't know how you make that green screen effect, but it's amazing.
Very well done! Thank you
This is a really helpful video, thank you so much!
Which weapons have higher priority on wakeup compared to Hunting Horn? And is Triple Echo Wave still the best wakeup if you're using an elemental horn?
I don't know anything about HH, so I guess this is informative? Should be, it's the best HH player around talking after all!
I'm here just to say MOGA VILLAGE MUSIC OOOOOOHHHHH
Lmao Deaga. 3rd gen is my fav gen and 3u is my fav game. You can count on me for the OST !
i feel bad cause. these HH pros make the best guides. while other weapons guides sux. :( no one can compare to HH quality weapon guides. i feel like becoming an HH main just cause of these juicy highly informative guides.
"Don't use the forward, back, and side"
They are still useful. They are better used for scenarios where you need to move. Back recital is basically your backstep and can slam short jabd mondters will do. Side recitals are useful as side step counters
Personally, I disagree. Forward is really not that great considering the long animation. Back and side recitals have a purpose, yes, but they are overshadowed by other options.
And for what it's worth, in speedruns from top HH players, we never see those moves used...ever. I think this is quite telling.
I really wana be good at hunting horn so this video helped
I like your voice
same
Love his accent
I've found something interesting about Hunting Horn's impact wave attack. While attack boosting skills, charms, and songs increases the impact wave damage, the skill bludgeoner does not affect the increase in impact wave damage as your weapon loses sharpness. Even though you still get the attack power increase to your weapon as your sharpness gauge drops down past a certain level, your impact wave attack damage does not increase. Really is too bad. Capcom implements a skill in the game that does not perform well (or even work) in its intended use.
The damage of the waves doesn't take sharpness into account. That's why bludgeoner isn't working. It doesn't matter if you have purple or green. The waves will deal the same amount of damage.
@@Doos The impact wave isn't dependent on sharpness, but it shows that it benefits from attack stat increase. So, I can't understand why not the attack boost from the bludgeoner skill apply as well to increasing the total impact wave damage? All other attack boosting methods consistently show an increase in the total impact wave damage, except for the attack boost from the bludgeoner skill.
so many thx for that, i love the weapon but, now, i undertand i dont have any idea abot how to use it in a fecient form. really, thx to much
I love your video man!!! It make me want to switch from hammer to horn haha. Also can you throw some skill I should get for early MR hunting horn :)
This attack needs a serious buff. It should stack with sharpness and affinity, really. It's such a difficult song to stack 3 times when the monster is attacking without corner horning or when doing TA, and yet it only does a little more damage than raw echo attacks and is eclipsed by elemental echo attacks.
The main use of the song is to cause KO. It matches the damage echo waves without tearing through sharpness(granted he's running a master's touch build). That combo does nearly 260 ko damage vs just the 75 of the echo wave combo. Echo wave dragon is the recital dps song but only for monsters weak against dragon.
Honestly I like that it doesnt crit or scale with sharpness. It gives it something that makes it unique and different to horns other moves. And the fact that it does do more damage, even a little, just serves to give a more varied playstyle and more options when the opportunity presents itself.
But i get that it's a powerhouse in cases where you're forced to use low sharpness and no affinity, like in arena quests or any% runs. Man, everything just had to be a crit meta.
@@interneddsupreme3810 echo wave dragon does more damage than the echo wave. I personally use the safi drakhorn(Attack 4 melody) with safi/brachi armor. That gives me a strong ko attack that doesn't sacrifice damage. I typically use echo wave dragon for the wake ups but it is the strongest dps you can do.
@@alexcompositionflat impact echo wave still does more damage when you play 3 of them together. Dragon tends to be stronger when you play one on it's own, but the damage starts to fall off when you put them together
No part 3 about dragon echo wave? :/ love your videos but there aren't many good video resources on the dragon version.
Годный гайд, спасибо большое!
Great Vids! One hunter is an Long sword main kk
I was always wondering what's the difference of impact echo wave and echo wave dragon. and which is more efficient. also why only dragon(assuming this is an elemental attack) and no other elements. I guess this will be answered in the 3rd video
Thank you for your effort DEUS
The edit is top
Hi AmaDEUS. I'm a PC player. I was watching the HH shuffle but I can't understand how you can do it because when you play the song you did first Neutral recital (hit), foward - (hit) -Natural position but in the middle of the foward and natural position you did not press the R2 to activate the melody but you did an impact (hit). How that is posible? I was trying for hours on the computer but i couldn't. (BTW: I am a new player)
What is the layers armor your wearing? It looks awesome!
Im a simple man, i heard dorohedoro music, i smash the like
so you don't need barrel bombs for wake up in iceborne? I always put it on top of their heads :p
Amazing Video
How u get agitator secret with only 2 pieces of Brachydium?
I've already used impact echo wave lv3 wakeup since before Iceborne and it's only using my phone
Hey what happened to echo wave dragon? Please tell me it's coming soon
This might be off-topic, as it pertains to the echo attack.. but what determines whether you use hiltstab or right swing to chain spin2win?
Hey ! The hilt stab is mainly to save time. If you can't get the full duration of a topple (let's say you had to reposition or walk to get to the monster) it's nice. For raw HH the damage is pretty weak so if it doesn't save you time, right swing is better. For elemental HH, the hilt stab is quite strong actually and it's worth landing.
Ooh Dorohedoro op!
Hey man great videos! Can you do a guide on what to build with hunting horns ? I just started Iceborne and I'm really lost as to what armor to get, what hunting horn and what skills are best. Thank you !!
Either Master’s Touch or Protective Polish, because spin to win damages the heck out of sharpness.
5 piece Safi because of the giant element and affinity boost, if you’re using element.
Agitator secret if you’re using raw, cuz it’s busted.
Then your regular cqc attacker skills, plus horn maestro. 3 Weakness Exploit, 3 Critical Boost, Agitator, Resentment if you’re using Safi’s set, Attack Boost or your weapons elemental attack up, and enough crit eye to reach 100%.
What u use bro to edit and get the perfecct mask of your char>?
eyyy i hear that dorohedoro ed ;)
We need hh guide for mhfu
Part 3 when?
How does that 150 motion value from the lvl 3 encore echo wave compare to the other hard hitting one shot moves in the game?
I haven’t taken a look at motion values from other weapons, but 150 seems like a lot compared to the motion values of the other moves HH has (I.e. super pound at 39)
The wakeup priority list is Greatsword, Hunting Horn, Gunlance or Artillery HBG with Wyvern ammo, Hammer, Charge Blade.
Numbers Wong I’m guessing the lvl 3 encore makes it second next to tcs? Also how do you know this, did you just compare the highest motion values from each weapon?
Dude that's a good waifu ngl
Amadeus le meilleur joueur corne du monde
You're using Safi over Kjarr? I thought Kjarr was better?
As impact waves arent affected by element, and safi weapons can get very high raw, they are still the better choice if you want to focus on waves. They're also the better choice for most general gameplay as they give a lot of customisability and flexability for builds.
Oué mec !
what gives mid's eye!? Thanks in advance.
Self improvement. HH has mind's eye by default thanks to that. This is how the honey hunter translates it.
Song?
Ok guys fine I’ll be the pervert I’m not gonna lie I had a hard time focusing on the techniques because of them big old you know let’s just say bubbles 😂😂 but seriously great video
Sounds like you enjoyed what you saw...hehe... Thanks for watching !
WHAT IS IEW???????????????????????????
okay i figured out, it stands for impact echo wave..... = =
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