The HAN is an older platform that is being upgraded it has been out for years in China. The Charging speed is typical for many cars in China. The BYD SEAL maybe called ATTO 4 internationally is a much newer architecture with 800 volt charging and is nicer take on a MODEL 3. BYD is not known for AP tech they offer more comfort and style and people like to drive them, themselves.
will be interesting, especially since Tesla's model 3 - codename highlander (there can only be one?) will be updated and might be coming with a highly competitive price tag as well. Tesla is on fire right now since their model Y is dominating the eSUV market.
The wirelessly charging message is actually common in other cars I've seen in China. I think it is a safety thing because people tend not to trust that the charging is working and would otherwise look down at the phone for confirmation. It's a bit obnoxious and big though so an option to make it a smaller popup would be a good idea. The wording is a translation issue, it will hopefully get better over time with OTAs. The "buzzer chime" is a safety thing so it is meant to be annoying, so it has to be distinct from other chimes I suppose. The boot / non-foldable back seat is why I'm not too interested in this car ... they had a wagon/estate concept of it though that they should definitely consider making, especially for the EU market.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Dont know for sure. DMis are PHEVs, which means they have gas engines under the hoods and may cause more complicated regulations and laws.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I have seen videos comparing Electrified vehicles reliability in china... BYD didn't rank well, while Model Y ranked best... The guy on the video almost explained every brand stand on the list and for BYD he said that the low reliability score for BYD actually comes from its DM-I variants..
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I have sat in it last week here in Dubai in their showroom. They will be starting to sell it in Dubai from this year November, looking forward to buy it 👍
I think most countries don't have 3Phase power supply for home usage. Its usually for industrial heavy duty and transmission purpose, but step down to 110/220V single phase in substation before distribution. Perhaps its standard in Scandavia and some EU countries but I have been traveling quite extensively esp in Asia and so far what I see is 100% single phase. So BYD might not be incenticized to provide that extra cost feature for a limited market, expecting the local dealer to package a transformer instead since they are doubling the China's price for obscene high margin.
The updated version of the HAN (coming this summer) will support 3-phase. As you say, big parts of the world don't need 3 phase for this. Buy for countries that do, this is really a dealbreaker for a lot of customers.
Agree on the pro’s. Charging indeed is an issue. Byd told me that they won’t upgrade nor replace the AC charger as soon as 3*16A version becomes available. In 2023 model update will arrive. There is a mobile charging solution for sale on the webstores that transforms 3*16A AC to 10 kW DC, that will cost you ca 4k.
Thanks for your input and especially the transformer. Not that fun to invest 4k in though..haven't seen that kind of a converter. Guess you lose some energy during conversion.
@@ItsOnlyElectric on home wall chargers, you are bound to lose a bit electricity. it is a shame u have to invest 4k on an upgraded charger. byd gives and installs the 7kw wall charger for free for buyers of this car in china. 7kw is good enough for overnight charging.
7kW is perfectly fine. That's what I have on my home charger but running 3 phases (3x10A = 7kW). So the updated model with 3 phase support will be perfect
They appear to have software update issues also . I've owned the Han for a month now, and i've so far not received update that would enable the functions under DI-Pilot (automated lights, automated steering etc..)
My main concern about these cars is the connectivity. They usually need to connect to a chinese server, but if the server is down, the car won't start.
Thinking of purchasing after recently seeing the Han up close in China. From your full review, Is the half-second accelerator delay present at all speeds and in all driving modes? I’m hoping this isn’t the case.
Yes, that's my experience. But I didn't clock it, so 0.5s is my understanding. But you will probably only feel the delay if you come from an EV with no delay at all (For instance nio or Tesla). If you come from a combustion car you won't notice it at all.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Sitting on the side of the car seat deform the car seat ( makes cracks and rips), the car seat does not designed for a side sitting. Thanks
I liked the dynaudio sound system. Don't remember exactly how it compared to model y but it was good. Model ys system his a good alrounder and in general hard to beat
Actually, this is a good quality car to begin with. But because most of us are western-oriented dudes anything coming from other countries that is NOT an EU or US product are already guilty as poor quality car. An example is the Lexus car. When Lexus came to the market sometimes in the 90’s a lot a people said that its not as good as MB or, Range. One GM of a car dealership commented and I quote..”Its the best car in the market right now but because it came from Asia - Japan this people will always find ways to beliitle the quality of this beautiful car Lexus.
I have bought this car (version 2020) for two years and driven 40,000km, everything is fine, the only point is that its steering radius is too large, I need to pay attention when turning around, I use a 7KW charger at home, which is installed for free by BYD, and its fast charge (30-90%) can be maintained for a long time at 610V and 77A on a public high-speed charging station，the weakness of LFP batteries is that they are more sensitive to temperature, but the advantage is that they are more stable, I drive 100 kilometers a day and the electricity cost is only 0.60 € （4.5 RMB）, because from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m., charging can be half price in Shanghai of China.
byd home charger is 7kw. when u say 2kw, do u mean the portable charger? i have this ev and i can always get it fully recharged overnight at home, as i can get close to 7kw on 220v powerline. i suppose if i jack the voltage up to 380v i could get 11kw.
7kW max capacity but on 1 phase. So if you have as most of us in Sweden you will have 10 or 16amps per phase. And since I have 10amps per phase the charge speed is 2kw (10A x 220V = 2,2kW). In some countries this isn't a problem if you have higher current (A). Eg. 32Ax220v = 7kW. Do you know how many amps you can get out?
Everybody is talking about pros, so I won't be saying much except that the vehicle is really efficient and can actually achieve claimed range or even surpass it if A/C is off in moderate weather. Here are a few cons I detected, but I guess they all can be solved via software updates: Parking sensors do not always engage automatically... They do in reverse! but when moving forward (even at speeds as low as 10km/h or less) they do not systematically activate ! No automatic parking (checked online, and it was available in some reagions, so I can only assume it will come at some point via OTA updates) 360° camera is quite good on flat grounds, but as soon as you are in a slope (ie: garage entrance) and you start steering it gets messed up a bit where the different video feeds from the different cameras get stitched up, and that's often the most interesting areas to avoid obstacles (ie: door frame)
The infotainment system operation and language is always an issue with Chinese vehicles (vehicles engineered and developed in China not just manufactured there like Tesla etc.) when they try to convert Chinese to English things get "lost in translation", this will change when native English speakers are hired to develop the software. In Australia BYD and MG have similar issues with sub-standard interfaces but the competition to Tesla from all brands is marvellous- it will only drive development of better and better cars and infrastructure
Any idea on the software updates roadmap/timeline ? Vendor claims carplay is coming before summer at any moment, but doesn't give any further information on it !
People don't want PRC brands because of (1) poor build quality, (2) the lack of a proper dealer network and (3) because these tofu cars come with extreme depreciation.
Your review is very professional and I hope to see more of your works. Thank you.👍
Thank you! You will for sure. More is on the way. 👍
The HAN is an older platform that is being upgraded it has been out for years in China. The Charging speed is typical for many cars in China. The BYD SEAL maybe called ATTO 4 internationally is a much newer architecture with 800 volt charging and is nicer take on a MODEL 3. BYD is not known for AP tech they offer more comfort and style and people like to drive them, themselves.
朋友，HAN的电动汽车搭载的技术甚至强过特斯拉，充电速度也支持快充
will be interesting, especially since Tesla's model 3 - codename highlander (there can only be one?) will be updated and might be coming with a highly competitive price tag as well. Tesla is on fire right now since their model Y is dominating the eSUV market.
The wirelessly charging message is actually common in other cars I've seen in China. I think it is a safety thing because people tend not to trust that the charging is working and would otherwise look down at the phone for confirmation. It's a bit obnoxious and big though so an option to make it a smaller popup would be a good idea.
The wording is a translation issue, it will hopefully get better over time with OTAs.
The "buzzer chime" is a safety thing so it is meant to be annoying, so it has to be distinct from other chimes I suppose.
The boot / non-foldable back seat is why I'm not too interested in this car ... they had a wagon/estate concept of it though that they should definitely consider making, especially for the EU market.
Could had been a more subtle notification. No need for a big pop-up.
I don’t see any issue with that. It’s only a confirmation info. msg.
It's actually kinda sad that BYD doesn't bring their DM-i vehicles to the market. DM-i are really good with fuel efficiency and performance.
Do you know why?
@@ItsOnlyElectric Dont know for sure. DMis are PHEVs, which means they have gas engines under the hoods and may cause more complicated regulations and laws.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I have seen videos comparing Electrified vehicles reliability in china... BYD didn't rank well, while Model Y ranked best... The guy on the video almost explained every brand stand on the list and for BYD he said that the low reliability score for BYD actually comes from its DM-I variants..
We also have many excellent electric vehicle brands in China, such as BYD, LEAPMOTOR, ZEEKR, Zhiji, NIO，and avatar. We welcome friends from all over the world who love electric vehicles to learn about them and wish everyone the opportunity to buy their favorite electric vehicles
I have sat in it last week here in Dubai in their showroom. They will be starting to sell it in Dubai from this year November, looking forward to buy it 👍
Nice!
BYD gives me a feeling of the Volvos from the good old days.
I guess that is a good feeling? 🙂
@@ItsOnlyElectric Definitely! Humble but powerful.
I think most countries don't have 3Phase power supply for home usage. Its usually for industrial heavy duty and transmission purpose, but step down to 110/220V single phase in substation before distribution.
Perhaps its standard in Scandavia and some EU countries but I have been traveling quite extensively esp in Asia and so far what I see is 100% single phase.
So BYD might not be incenticized to provide that extra cost feature for a limited market, expecting the local dealer to package a transformer instead since they are doubling the China's price for obscene high margin.
The updated version of the HAN (coming this summer) will support 3-phase. As you say, big parts of the world don't need 3 phase for this.
Buy for countries that do, this is really a dealbreaker for a lot of customers.
double the China's price ？that high？
Agree on the pro’s. Charging indeed is an issue. Byd told me that they won’t upgrade nor replace the AC charger as soon as 3*16A version becomes available. In 2023 model update will arrive. There is a mobile charging solution for sale on the webstores that transforms 3*16A AC to 10 kW DC, that will cost you ca 4k.
Thanks for your input and especially the transformer. Not that fun to invest 4k in though..haven't seen that kind of a converter. Guess you lose some energy during conversion.
@@ItsOnlyElectric on home wall chargers, you are bound to lose a bit electricity. it is a shame u have to invest 4k on an upgraded charger. byd gives and installs the 7kw wall charger for free for buyers of this car in china. 7kw is good enough for overnight charging.
7kW is perfectly fine. That's what I have on my home charger but running 3 phases (3x10A = 7kW). So the updated model with 3 phase support will be perfect
Yeah, don't know why BYD charging is rather slower than rivals. Due to blade batteries may be?
Normally lfp batteries don't charge that much slower than NMC batteries. Do it's more connected to BYD way of implementing it?
They appear to have software update issues also . I've owned the Han for a month now, and i've so far not received update that would enable the functions under DI-Pilot (automated lights, automated steering etc..)
Ok. Happy with the car otherwise?
@@ItsOnlyElectric Otherwise it's been a fantastic experience
@@SamiY nice! 👏
Is there an official service place where you can get that done?
@@honesty_-no9he This was fixed some weeks ago. Byd had a bug in their OTA system. I've received now all the DI-Pilot updates
I love your title with the 5 features that will make me want to buy a Han and then utterly bomb the car 😂
Haha...naa..you need to watch the whole video. The goodies at the end. 😂
I like your humor 👍😂@@ItsOnlyElectric
Excellent review keep it up and thank you
By the way,, your location is awesome
Thank you
My main concern about these cars is the connectivity. They usually need to connect to a chinese server, but if the server is down, the car won't start.
Are you sure it's connecting to a cloud in china and not in Europe? Sound strange to add that latency..
Thinking of purchasing after recently seeing the Han up close in China. From your full review, Is the half-second accelerator delay present at all speeds and in all driving modes? I’m hoping this isn’t the case.
Yes, that's my experience. But I didn't clock it, so 0.5s is my understanding. But you will probably only feel the delay if you come from an EV with no delay at all (For instance nio or Tesla). If you come from a combustion car you won't notice it at all.
In China they think it is rude and inappropriate to make your guests car sick. Unlike Yeehaa! Americans
@@honesty_-no9hehahaha weird excuse for the fact the tech is just not capable..
The first BAD THING is sitting on the side of the car seat !! Anyway Very nice review.
Haha! What does that even mean?
@@ItsOnlyElectric Sitting on the side of the car seat deform the car seat ( makes cracks and rips), the car seat does not designed for a side sitting. Thanks
Ok. Now I get it.
Hi, the type two charging cable with the car only supports 1.5kw, that is why your
Ac changing is so slow!
change bigger power charging cable.
I did use my wall connector with 11kWh capacity..at that point the HAN only supported 1 phase charging (confirmed). Newer HANs now support 3 phase
ESPETÁCULO DE NAVE 👍🏼🇧🇷👏👏👏👏🚀
Your 5 negatives are nitpicks at best. Which is great for the Han
What about the sound system when compared to Tesla's? Thanks.
I liked the dynaudio sound system. Don't remember exactly how it compared to model y but it was good. Model ys system his a good alrounder and in general hard to beat
Not sure if I mentioned it more in detail in my review:
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Actually, this is a good quality car to begin with. But because most of us are western-oriented dudes anything coming from other countries that is NOT an EU or US product are already guilty as poor quality car. An example is the Lexus car. When Lexus came to the market sometimes in the 90’s a lot a people said that its not as good as MB or, Range. One GM of a car dealership commented and I quote..”Its the best car in the market right now but because it came from Asia - Japan this people will always find ways to beliitle the quality of this beautiful car Lexus.
It's not bad quality at all.
You did not show the screen that does both Portrait and Landscape.
I do that in my full review. 🙂 th-cam.com/video/kZQhZI_6ZDs/w-d-xo.html
I have bought this car (version 2020) for two years and driven 40,000km, everything is fine, the only point is that its steering radius is too large, I need to pay attention when turning around, I use a 7KW charger at home, which is installed for free by BYD, and its fast charge (30-90%) can be maintained for a long time at 610V and 77A on a public high-speed charging station，the weakness of LFP batteries is that they are more sensitive to temperature, but the advantage is that they are more stable, I drive 100 kilometers a day and the electricity cost is only 0.60 € （4.5 RMB）, because from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m., charging can be half price in Shanghai of China.
Great! Thanks for reporting valueble information. 👍
byd home charger is 7kw. when u say 2kw, do u mean the portable charger? i have this ev and i can always get it fully recharged overnight at home, as i can get close to 7kw on 220v powerline. i suppose if i jack the voltage up to 380v i could get 11kw.
7kW max capacity but on 1 phase. So if you have as most of us in Sweden you will have 10 or 16amps per phase. And since I have 10amps per phase the charge speed is 2kw (10A x 220V = 2,2kW). In some countries this isn't a problem if you have higher current (A). Eg. 32Ax220v = 7kW.
Do you know how many amps you can get out?
@@ItsOnlyElectric i see. i have 32Ax220V=7KW.
Lucky you!
@@ItsOnlyElectric i know! I paid 43k usd for the top version of this HAN EV, charger included!
@@ItsOnlyElectric 10A per phase? That is ridiculously little to provide your entire house. In Belgium I have 3phase 32A at 230V = 22KW
Black Pague hits again in Sweden 😪
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Due to the price & availability, you're better off getting the Lucid Air Sapphire.
Haha...totally different price and class. But I like the Lucid. Not available in Sweden yet.
Any pros and cons you want to comment or add? 👇
Full review here:
th-cam.com/video/kZQhZI_6ZDs/w-d-xo.html
Everybody is talking about pros, so I won't be saying much except that the vehicle is really efficient and can actually achieve claimed range or even surpass it if A/C is off in moderate weather.
Here are a few cons I detected, but I guess they all can be solved via software updates:
Parking sensors do not always engage automatically... They do in reverse! but when moving forward (even at speeds as low as 10km/h or less) they do not systematically activate !
No automatic parking (checked online, and it was available in some reagions, so I can only assume it will come at some point via OTA updates)
360° camera is quite good on flat grounds, but as soon as you are in a slope (ie: garage entrance) and you start steering it gets messed up a bit where the different video feeds from the different cameras get stitched up, and that's often the most interesting areas to avoid obstacles (ie: door frame)
@@YounesREGAIEG great input!
The infotainment system operation and language is always an issue with Chinese vehicles (vehicles engineered and developed in China not just manufactured there like Tesla etc.) when they try to convert Chinese to English things get "lost in translation", this will change when native English speakers are hired to develop the software.
In Australia BYD and MG have similar issues with sub-standard interfaces but the competition to Tesla from all brands is marvellous- it will only drive development of better and better cars and infrastructure
Any idea on the software updates roadmap/timeline ? Vendor claims carplay is coming before summer at any moment, but doesn't give any further information on it !
No information on that topic.
FYI - the charger that is spelled QI - is pronounced CHEE not Q.I.
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People don't want PRC brands because of (1) poor build quality, (2) the lack of a proper dealer network and (3) because these tofu cars come with extreme depreciation.
No thanks, its still made in China and seeing how they do their construction...tofu buildings 😂😂