NEW Stump Grinders Nobody's EVER SEEN BEFORE! Side by Side test of 3 Echo Bearcat Stump grinders
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- We test 3 brand new Models of stump grinders that have been never seen before. These are the newest 2019 releases from Echo Bearcat. We test them one after another to see how they perform.
Big thanks to Bearcatproducts.com for helping put this video together
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These remind me of my first stump grinder. Rayco rg13 -2. Thing weighed 450 pounds, was road towable, 13 or 14 hp Kohler. Get to job site unhook hitch bar off truck, then off machine. Never stand behind the machine, stand off to the side and lock it in your body. Use your hips to rotate. Ergonomics positions had 5 position. Bought it used for $2,000 , ground 60 stumps with it and bought a bigger unit. Sold once I had not used it for months. It is still making that guy money
Memories! Had the 13 hp rayco in high school! Was making the big bucks following a few tree companies around while my friends were making minimum wage at the grocery store!
That's also good mulch on that double headed monster stump that's also a plus if you need mulch for beds
Wow, they are from my hometown of Fargo. I didn’t even know this company existed, and would you look, they are even locals to me! Thanks Stan!
Why dont you top the stumps with a chainsaw first? it would be a lot less wear and use on the stump grinder.
The bottom cut dulls the saw, at least a little. Also, he is selling so he wants to show how high it goes
Rick Rinehart because if they cut the top off that's stump grinder won't grind nothing underneath the ground that thing's a piece of junk
Those tiny monsters definitely need to be self propelled... when it takes 2 people to pull it up a long gradual grade, it needs to be self propelled...
These small ones are also good for getting next to a house, a sidewalk or a fence. The big ones are sometimes too big for certain operations.
I own a small business in the mountains and alot of times the stump grinders are Just way to large to get where I need it . I can put that bearcat to work!!! Nice machine !
No point in grinding stuff you can cut down with a saw. It is way more important how it does at ground level and below
Exactly, plus for $3000-$4000 they should all be self propelled, they should be a little more impressive than what they are for that price. Probably costs $600 to make the pro series. I was pretty impressed because I thought he meant $299.99 for the smallest, not $2999. I don’t think this is worth anywhere close to what they’re asking
Exactly!!
@greg mccarter I've got more than 1200 hours on +25hp machines. Maybe 1 in 10 of my customers are satisfied with 8-10 inches/just below surface level. Greenteeth can be sharpened - I just charge accordingly.
1:52 In order to save time, I would suggest cutting the stump with a chainsaw as low as you can get it before grinding.
Keep up the good work of educating Homeowners
Thanks Walt !
Does a nice job . Good for hard too get places . Good demo as always 👍👍
Thanks Stephen!
Thank you Bearcat, great public relations and product demonstration.... :)
I rented a unit like this from Home Depot, I worked for an hour on a 14 inch stump that was maybe 12 inches high and didn't even get half way through it, plus I was worn out.
The big one, I would only buy the mower or tractor, I would never pull it behind a car or truck, it would never survive the roads or highways!! But still they are nice looking machines,
I like to see one with a 22Hp or 777cc engine
Or better yet, an electric one.
@@MrPhatties Thay got Electric ones. 5 tons
I can’t believe anybody would not cut the stump as close to the ground as possible ,,,,, waste of time and gas ...use the chainsaw as much as possible ....he wouldn’t work for me ... thanks. Craig. Pa. Guy
A crotch of a tree usual has highly figured grain wood turners love that kinda wood and would pay for it
It's a demo, keep that in mind.
Like tree feller said I think it was just for demo purposes
What i was thinking.
Yeah done for demo. But im sure you got into stumps you couldnt take down with a saw as far as you would like due to dirt pockets
I had no idea they made these! Very cool!
Thanks for watching !
Like every piece of equipment good for some situations not so much for others still far better than manual labour
I just had a guy come over and do six stumps with a remote control one he wasn't even here 15 minutes these things are sweet
Cannot help but laugh at that near pointless trailer 🤣🤣
At the very start, like seriously can't find anything else on it looks perfect for a smart car
For a rental yard it makes it easyer than lifting it up into a pick up bed I would go to a rental yard that inculdes a trailor over a rental yard that doesn't
@@waltlars3687 I mean fair point but Uh huh guarantee you could just pick it up yourself seriously I've picked up heavier movers
@@iatomiksi2200 I have to but I like idea of a trailor
But do you need a plate for the trailer
Hey Stanley that is good for the small trees service company who starting out
Thanks for sharing your info on stump grinders👍
You're welcome Lloyd, thanks for viewing !
Those small grinders would be perfect for stumping in areas where normal size stump grinders won't fit
I could see this used for real small trees or places that are difficult to get to. When I did tree work the place had a large tow behind vermeer and a self driven carlton stump grinder. The carlton was junk but that vermeer would eat anything, the largest stump I used it on was an 8 foot diameter beech tree made quick work of a hard wood. Need the right machine for the right job.
.... that wood was so pretty
I'd definitely look into these to get into the game. Perfect for expanding into another service. Not badges commercial equipment but very well made great performing equipment. Keep up the hard work man.
“Is this commercial unit, or a residential?” “Yep”
Why does Chris favor Brian of Brians Lawn Care 😜👌
My grandad ran machines similar to that in the 80s and 90s they actually messed up both of his shoulders because he used them almost daily. Yeah they're good for residential and maybe a landscaper trying to branch out or something, but for a professional it's almost useless. My grandad was in the tree and stump business for over 40 years, I've been in it for 4 years. Definitely cut the stumps pretty low, don't run your saw in the ground but you shouldn't be to grind stumps that high.
I worked for a local landscaper and a tree service in upstate NY in 2002-03. We had an old stump grinder with the blade near our feet that we used from 2-6x/yr that was super-heavy, belt-driven, and had probably an engine 16-18hp! You had to be extremely careful that you didn't get tangled up in the spinning cutter wheel!
This would be perfect to rent. I only have a few small stumps to grind. I could do it myself in an afternoon.
They have similar ones to rent at Home Depot.
The whole point in a stump grinder is to go below ground level. All the work shown here should have been done with a chain saw. I want to see how it performs below ground level where it is supposed to work.
Exactly right.
I think it would be a good idea if they could suspend the engine somehow like a 1 man post hole auger so that when you tip it back like that for a high stump, the engine will stay level and wont be starved for oil. just a thought. Thank you for the video!!
Thanks for the comments Danny !
My local tool hire company has one like this but its 25hp that I use often. It's ok with brand new teeth but once they get a bit worn its next to useless. Got to wonder what a machine with half the horsepower is going to be like once the teeth get worn.
I like it for small stumps. Great video.
Thanks Donald !
homeowner units real grinders have hydraulic control and 4 or 6 wheels or tracks
I am wondering if different tool heads could be attached to it like a sprinkler pipe trencher or a posthole digger or ...?
Grinds stumps only
Hello Stan,
Thank you for your work on this channel I really appreciate it...I was wondering if at some point you could give a review of a Super Lawn Truck...? Thanks!
Thank you , I am happy you are here watching! Thanks for the suggestion
They are cool. Maybe for a landscaper.. you can find a used vermeer sc252 for around 4to 5 k if your patient
A company that orginally made design that stump grinder was called praxis originated approximately 2000 in Batavia il sold to vermeer blue bird huskavarna and now toro fyi. Cutting teeth vary slightly surprised that they are not using the black Honda engines they are less expensive and work just as well
Rocks aren't too bad on the teeth.
But a piece of Steel even tin will them wipe out.
Green teeth have three sides to the teeth so you can rotate them.
Very easy to sharpen with a drill press and a bench grinder with diamond Stone.
Better wear a respirator when you sharpen carbide.
I'll have to pray on this one. I didn't see anything that would make me go with the pro. It cost as much as the stump grinding attachment for my mini skid.
cant wait for Ryobi to come out with their $200 version that runs on their 18v batteries.
How far do you go down? Do stop when you a flesh to the ground or can you completely grind it out? Very nice equipment
You lost me at $4000 for a gas powered stump grinder. Better off finding an old worn out professional model
th-cam.com/video/V_h_wpOkqGk/w-d-xo.html I purchased this rayco one for $600 from a rental place. It needed some work...... but phew these things are expensive new.
If it’s got a Honda engine it’s going to cost!
You can rent a pro unit from Sunbelt Rentals for $375 a day. Just looked at that today getting ready to deal with my own stubborn stump. You'd have to rent that one 10 times before you ever came near just the initial investment price of the largest. The stump I'm dealing with is about 5' across and a White Oak. It's really a tough nut to crack.
@@banshee8989 Your video is better than this one.
Stan its summer, time to ace that Grizzly Adams beard. Nice video and great job showing the differences in the models
Thanks Paul, we'll see....
I am all for the size of these grinders, I have been in a few jobs where anything bigger wouldn't be able to get into the yard however that price is insane. I could build one and even including pricing my time in I could make one line that small one for 2 grand.
I have been running a stump grinding company for 5 years now and there has not been one job I have not been able to get to even with the BIGGEST of grinders such as Vermeer SC652 so not sure if you all talk out of your butts or if you are actually in the business.
@@styleZ8722do you have any advice on how I could get started in my local area with one this small? And what would you charge for the smaller stumps?
No tree service is going to be using one of these lol. This is a DIY rental unit. 15 min for him to get the stump to ground level is not removing the stump. That is only like 25% of the work.... To actually remove that stump with that unit would have taken him 45 min to an hour. BUT for a DIY for the price to rent one its not bad at all.
The only thing that I could see that I would change, I would tie the axle to the frame with a swing arm and a hydraulic piston assembly off if a floor jack so you won't need to worry about fudging the engine by to steep of angle or having to cut again,,,,the back might thank you also so would the farm girl in the Daisy dukes.....
I kinda like the ventrac stump grinder.
Gotta cut those stumps down as low as you can to decrease time and clean up
I prefer to dig out the stump completely. I can turn the stump into a nice wood table.
That's cool Robert
3k to the baby one seems like a rip off. At 1k more for a way better engine and more juice doesn’t seem that bad.
My thoughts exactly. But you'll never convince the average homeowner/do it yourselfer that that $1k is a negligible price for the added value that they're getting with the Pro model and that they're actually saving money in the long run. Those types usually "know everything" already and because of that...they get to willingly pay too much for less. They built the small one with that idiot in mind and I don't blame them one bit.
Stanley, I really like your tool reviews, but please, please, please, invest in a camera with an image stabilizer.
Hey Thanks Stanley For This Information Im Looking at this 😎🤙
Good product, good explanation, 🐒
Thank you !
Stanley with stump grinders I have seen the one you used in this video and I have also seen stump grinders that are more fan blade like styles. I haven't got into stump grinding yet but have been thinking about it. Do you have a preference? Also what if you want to go below ground with the stump?
I would say for a landscaper, nothing more. Neat little machines tho
Great Video.. Awesome Demonstration
Thanks Charles, appreciate that !
Small chips leave em on the ground. Big chips, customers will have you rake it up. Stuff to think about
My brother has a lot of stumps on his property, he counted them and figure it was cheaper to buy a grinder then pay someone, so he bought the grind that attaches to a Tractor’s PTO and it is much faster than 1 of these and cheaper then these, look for it on TH-cam, the name I’m not sure but it is green, an off green,
YEAH SO YOU JUST LEAVE THE REST IN THE GROUND WHAT A JOB TAKE IT OUT WITH ROOTS
Awesome video. Didn't know echo make stump grinder. So cool
Thanks Tim!
looks like a dosko copy… I have had a dosko 337 for decades.
If it was self propelled you wouldn't need the trailer. You could drive it into your truck. It's a nice machine tho. I have the same engine on my leaf vac so I know it will run strong. But dude, 4k and you have to push it?
I'm doing some comparisons. The DK2 is about less than half the price at more HP at 14 HP and can grind deeper. However, it doesn't include a clutch and uses this kick stand thing that is possibly dangerous. I'm not sure what to say about the cyclonic thing. Has anyone else done any comparisons?
I have the power king 803eh same as the dk2 as far as engine, frame and cutting wheel.
But it also has a clutch and brake and green teeth compatible. For 500 less gave 1800 hundred less than 6 months ago.
Yupp
Nice stump grinders. How long did it take for the 2 headed stump?
Thanks for the video
They forgot to bring a chain saw w/them...to cut the trees first?
So, about $600 in parts and i can build one these for a third of the actual cost.. Wow,. you guys have driven up that market.
I mean, 6K for a fucking riding mower is nuts. I can buy like 4 running cars for that
Here in NYS you need to go 18” down from the ground . Must be they don’t own a chain saw just grinders . Cut it as close to the ground then grind it . But then these guys sell grinders not chain saws
You can rent those at Home Depot
Did he just face palm the camera ... I'm offended ... but that was satisfying somehow
Hey where can I look to buy one of this stump grinder
Question.. why not lop them down with a chainsaw then grind instead of widdling down a tall stump
Im sold i need a stump grinder id rather somthing litle faster for the price its great and i realy like simplicity instead of a 20000$ bandit that every one weeve hade lots of problems from blown hydrolic down by the cutter to valves not working with the remots. Granted the bandit self propeld track on with wifi is cool on tracks but weev had lot of troble when all we want is work done im looking into one i dont need a $20000 with all bells and whistels i just need to get work done the bigest one dose great. And will go any where the. Bandet self propeled. Goes only thing is no boldozer blade and cant use it as vehical for pulling ropes
There from North Dakota. I am from Hazelton North Dakota. Where are they located in North Dakota.
I'm not a pro, but just wondering why aren't stumps cut really close to the ground and then let the grinder do the rest? Usually I've done it as mentioned and it's way faster.
Although one must have a chainsaw and later get rid of that piece of wood. Too much of a hassle?
Can you tell us where you got the Trailer for the Grinder? (22:49)
Want to grind for real. Get the sc752. All beast.
Need it to be self propelled if it's not not worth buying
In my opinion the Vermeer sc502a stump grinder is the way to go
Might be a dumb question. By doing this, does it kill the tree and roots underground?
These things has been out for over five years
can you please do a review on the oltoz tax
Thanks for the suggestion Jennifer
So echo is owned by Honda but is using the Briggs and Stratton Pro Xr engine?
Watch u tube video with a stump grinder on a john deer tractor it get rid of those size stumps in 5 minutes nails or not with ease
How much is the trailer
Hey Stanley give me a job you can make a you tube video on how you hire and train me I wanna work for you.
Jeff how old are you.
30
Jeff and you listen to childish music like city girls, pop out, and have a cartoon Rick and morty profile picture. Good luck getting hired....
Thanks for your input.👍
Try a walnut stump with this unit. 🤬🥶😱
Much love echo! Stan you should reach out to PowerKing and check out their line of products! I have their stump grinder ($1499) and I think for the price point it is superior to the bearcat product. They also back their line of tools and are actually available when you have questions :D Thanks for the videos Stan!
Thanks Cody and thanks for the suggestion !
They built it but cant run it right?
Please tell me what trailer that was. I need one of them.
I was all in till I heard 3k
cool
Thanks for watching !
Where is the chainsaw?
I live for moments like 15:31 lol
Saw all you can , when use grinder.
Someone get that kid a sandwich. He reminds me of Captain America before the serum.
Honda has low oil alert on the engine if it detects low oil the engine will shut down on its own
Wait, was that a street legal trailer?
Sure, just write “tool shed” on the side of it.