Avalon Better Than Lexus ES 350? | 2016 Avalon Review
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- The Avalon is a superb vehicle. Big, comfy, reliable, and a great powertrain. The ES 350 is still a far more refined product with superior interior design and materials. ES is also quieter and a much smoother ride.
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This was the best looking avalon Toyota ever made I own one and I was thinking about trading it in for a 2019 which is hideous. Love this car the gas mileage in unbelievable. Cross country trip. 4 states 2.5 weeks on the road $250 is what it cost me for gas.
I've seen dash computer MPG readings as high as slightly over 44 MPG on my 2016 XLE Hybrid. I'm sure the six is better to drive though; my neighbor has a Limited with that motor and swears by the smooth power. It's a great car although I'd think the extra cost of the Lexus ES brings more refinement and slightly more luxury inside.
The best looking Avalon is the 2006 model, it looks like a Lexus!
I have a much worse built car (13 impala) but I get 28.5 mpg somehow w/ a 300 hp v6 it’s insane how good the mileage is on these new v6’s
I feel the same way I want to look at the new ES and Avalon I just don't see the big upgrade
@@ms3173bro what that's the worst looking gen 😭
Just purchased my wife a 2016 Avalon X L E on 11-13-19. This is the 3rd one, 1998, 2001. GREAT VEHICLE
I drove both vehicles the same day. Both were 2018 models and the Lexus had 38,000 more miles on it. Both were in great shape and the Lexus is by far the better car. Nicer looking, nicer fit and finish and way more comfortable. The Lexus cost was around 1500 more. The only thing I liked about the Avalon was it was a little longer so you have more room in the backseat.
The limited is much nicer, it corrects a lot of the minor issues you were citing in the trim you were in. The ride is different and it's quiet inside.
Is the Iimited version more quit than the xle?
@@markmaynard8105 I'm actually not sure, but if you can find a review of this year model by Alex on Autos, he does a great job of putting up the specific differences between trim levels towards the end of each review.
That is one nice looking car. If I didn't have a Camry, I'd seriously consider buying this one.
This seems like the Avalon Touring model is the best option if I decide not to pay extra for the Limited trim. Thanks for this video. Very helpful as I've been looking at these models, particularly 2015 and 2016. I'm actually amazed that the 2016 Touring model is much cheaper used than I would have thought in March 2019. Any idea why?
The ride is different on the limited from all the other trims. I have read comments from people saying that they didn't like the ride quality in the touring trim.
could u do another take with more wind noise? thankx Kirk...
Not only is this the best looking Avalon, it is the best looking car on the street. Period.
Regardless of the brand.
Uh, what? It's better looking than every single Ferrari model? Better looking than an S-class, M5, A8, etc? How so?
I'm the right one to answer any comparison questions between the Avalon and the lexus es350. I had a 2013 Avalon limited and it was loaded with features most es don't have and acceleration was great. My main issue was hard suspensions even in the comfort echo mode in the limited. Then I drove the es350 2016 and there was a very felt difference. The lexus was quite and the suspension was softer. The steering was buttery and softer as well. The screen was bigger and better. Es350 has a few trim levels but not easy to figure out which is which. The Avalon is ever slightly bigger and the limited is loaded. I traded the 2013 Avalon for 2015 Lexus es350 and the lexus is quieter and smoother in many ways, but the bad thing about the lexus is that the extended driver seat and the interactive cruise only offered in the ultra luxury version which has the panoramic roof. I have the second highest trim level of the es and it doesn't have those feature. Many don't even have a GPS. So my opinion comparing those 2 cars is that the es is a definitely better ride but have to pay much more to get all the features that the Avalon limited has.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Correct, the 2013 -2015 Avalon has a stiffer suspension to try and make it sporty to appeal to younger buyers. That's didn't work.
All it did was make it ride hard with surprising impact harshness. It's basically the wrong suspension rate for the frame stiiffness and sound proofing which tends to resonate and hit bumps much harder. KaWhump!.. wow. bad.
As a result 2013 -2015 Avalons had far more road noise (impact harshness) than an average sedan. Even a newer Ford F150 truck is much quieter than a 2013 - 2015 Avalon including the Avalon Limited.
Earlier Avalons from 2005 -2012 rode very smooth and are extremely quiet.
Much quieter than 2013-2015 models - except for the Touring edition with a stiff suspension and low profile tires that hit bumps pretty hard.
In 2016 they fixed the stiff ride and got noise levels back to pretty good.
Some Lexus ES350 of those same years had the same issue.
I was surprised my older 2006 Avalon Limited was much quieter than a 2015 Lexus ES350 or 2015 Avalon.
Designers test cars in summer on butter smooth roads, but up in snow country that's pointless where we have serious potholes and frost cracks every few feet to deal with.
Using a calibrated SPL sound meter with data exporting I found that the 2013 - 15 Avalon is literally 2x louder on the freeway than the earlier models or 2016+ models.
It's easy to see the results on exported data charts with frequency and noise levels vs mph for each car.
Cars could be amazingly quiet; but with limitations in cost vs materials and weight vs sporty handling and extra road noise, they usually they pick sporty handling no matter how it rides.
If designers cared about mpg and ride quality instead of looks they'd use 15" rims with reasonable width tires that have some sidewall. Cars would gain 2mpg for free, cost less and ride quieter due to less un-sprung weight at the wheel and lower reciprocating mass.
That's why 1990 - 2000 Camry rode so nice, on 14 and 15" rims.
Try to find that these days.
@@davem5403
I had all the cars you mentioned plus my current 2016 es350 ultra luxury with the driver extension cussion. Here are some more things I noticed:
*2006-2012 avalon are amazing, especially 2011 and 2012. The size, the smooth cushiony ride, the rear recling seat.. All amazing.
*es350 has good suspensions but the ultra luxury I have come with 18" wheels which looks good but gives you a less quiet and less smooth ride unfortunately.
*I hated the touch heptic buttons on the 2013 avalon. Always touched them by accident when I tried to reach for something else in that area.
@@jakedior9419 Great post. Lots of helpful, well thought out info.
Great job buddy
Could you do a video on the Platinum Lexus Extended Warranty for cars under 80,000 miles? The one that covers all systems, Would you buy it, and is it worth it?
I'd be happy to do a video on our Lexus certified extended warranty. Good idea!
2014 ES 350 ride smooth better than 2014 AVALON.I Drove both cars.
BTW the headlights on xle trim are halogen quad projector headlights
Thanks!
Nice video ... but how does your 04 Avalon compare to an 04-06 ES 330?
Es is quite nicer... however my cloth interior is probably holding up better than most leather of 2004 ES
When you say “chrome”, do you mean the shiny plastic?
This model is so perfect 😊😊
Since we never got the Avalon
I am a bit confused
The es Is the luxury and Lexus version of the Camry
And the Avalon seems to be the Toyota version of the es
Lexus ES shares the longer platform of the Camry with the Avalon. Let me know if that helps!
@@KirkKreifels thanks
Unfortunately we no more get the Camry in SA the last generation that was sold was the 05 model
It was then replaced by the avensis which was an Australian built car
And after that the corrola grew up to take it's place
@@AHMEDMOOSAJI it's so crazy how different the markets are worldwide. Thanks for sharing!
I wish they kept the storage thing for the middle seat armrest. So much place to keep my stuff...
Gee, there wasn't a wind tunnel in your area that was available?
Just a hint: when it's a windy day the audio on your TH-cam video...TAKES A MASSIVE HIT.
I believe this is the xle premium, which I have. Great car.
I have the xle premium and it has lane departure assist on the steering wheel. The one in this video does not
I still have my Avalon and still drive it as my daily car the sad part is I don't really know if it's sad but I cannot trade it in for the new Avalon or the ESI don't see a real big upgrade
Nice video. Thanks for sharing, my friend
The fit of the chrome around the driver's window is crooked. I think your 04 had better fit.
As mentioned there is approximately a $5,000 difference in the cars. I am confused though because you said you would choose the Avalon with the touring package which is a hefty upgraded package starting at close to $43,000. If you are going to upgrade you do realize you have close the gap in price and you could spend that money on the Lexus is 350. If the budget you are going to spend is 43,000 -$45,000 anyway, you could compare an Avalon at that price to a Lexus ES 350 at that same price. So the question is now why at the budget you have chosen would you buy a Avalon over a Lexus. There is no reason to go for the lesser quality and interior anymore.
The Avalon lesser quality than a Lexus? Lol
They're both Toyota's.
Some people prefer the interior on the Avalon. It hardly takes a back seat to the Lexus. Depends on what you're looking for. Decked out Avalon Limited Hybrid is around 44k. Lexus is thousands more than that
@Manny I think many auto makers are going with black only dashboards and footwells, not just Toyota. It makes it easier for them to manufacture just one variant of steering wheel.
Fuel economy
Can't believe that the owners manual doesn't mention anywhere what size the wiper blades are!!
megamania501 Driver’s side 26” and passengers side 18”
My 2015 Avalon love it only 10.000miles ❤️👍
My driving miles have fallen from 16 to 17,000 down to about 8,000 a year. My 2018 Hybrid Limited has about 45,000 on it now. I'm thinking while the traction battery is still pretty fresh might be a good time to turn it into a 2022 ES350. It's selling for $7500 less than it sticker price which is pretty phenomenal value retention.
“Traction battery”?? What is THAT? 😅
I have a 07 Avalon 381 k
I just purchased a 2008 Avalon with 158000 miles on it. I'm driving it for uber. What kind of repairs did you have to do with your Avalon in the last three to five years?
Woah!!! I’ll trade you my Scion!!
When are you reviewing 2018 Nissan Maxima?
As soon as I get one! I will have to venture out to a Nissan dealership and see what I can do!
My 2011 Camry Have 3 "12V" in the front
That's awesome!
After I test drive Camry, Lexus and Avalon, Lexus was quietest but except luxury future, I could not feel the difference Camry and Lexus, and Avalon was more comport and smooth.
2016 xle does not have LED lights in front they are halogen and incandescent...LED lights are in back.
21 people stop hateing y'all cannot afford it or no 2020 or 2019 or 2021 y'all cannot afford that
I test drove one yesterday. I love the look and interior but the handling/ floaty nature made me pass. Also the brakes are a little too plush for me. It broke my heart
❤👑👍👏
is this in Omaha? Looks like by my house
Yes
I love Nebraska ❤️
Can't go wrong with a lexus or Toyota longest lasting vehicles on the road.. just keep the oil changed theybrun for Miles and miles..
Is a 2017 Avalon with 68,000 miles for $15,000 worth buying?
Yes that’s cheap af
Definitely, now 2017 are around 18-20k
No it's not. Same platform but that scv where the same stops
2024 🎉🎉
No were near a Lexus, drove a 2016 Avalon and I thought the road noise was worse than my 06 camry..... Lexus is the next buy and the re sale will be a lot better.
“Nowhere”, not “no were”. Those words mean very different things. Maybe a simple typo, right?
it just looks like a 2018 camry le model
I just with it didn’t have that giant fish face grille. I love the car regardless but it could be so much better looking with a normal bumper.
False, the hybrids are more energy consuming on the highway because of the weight and less power to overcome aerodynamic drag, also, the hybrid system never kicks in on long hauls, hybrids are always better in the city, never on the highway.
I think my 2008 has a better interior
I have Avalon with 280k
Useless... I'm much more interested about mechanical concerns, body and suspention concerns... I'm much less interested in the local weather
lexus quite, toyo nosie.