A quick note... when talking about the door in the video, the idea was that the door has been left open when it appears that Entrati wanted to CLOSE IT, which I believe he meant for good, not just in the moment, something clearly euleria did not do, given what she talks about during the heart of deimos. So the door has been left wide open. But... let me stress that there is no passage CONFIRMING the door was closed to supposedly cut off the man in the wall's fingers and further... the only person who we can definitively say was injured, especially in their arm, was entrati. So the thing to ponder is... if the "other" escaped as Entrati theorized, is it not possible those fingers belonged to him and their metamorphosis after void exposure and how it interacted with real world material, Human fingers (or more) was how void technologies were actually developed, maybe by an entity that already knew how it all worked? FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
in trying to get powerful enough to fight the man in the wall, we are unknowingly making him more powerful.... for we are him, and he is us.. !!!! We are the evil, we seek to destroy.... !
It's mentioned in game that wally lost his finger. Dr. Entrati wasn't sure if he'd escaped or if his Doppelganger did. Something that in fact confirms Dr. Entrati was the one that escaped. His Doppelganger wouldn't have had those doubts. As mentioned by someone else. At the end of new war wally is in fact missing a finger.
Others probably pointed it out, but its no coincidence that Oull's requiem symbol begins changing only after its initial form is an eye. It needs to look at your enemies's selves to fully become them as a person and strike at them the same way it struck Entrati.
Alternative reading: Blood and stomach on the floor doesn't equate to his intestines hanging out - but instead nausea and emissions caused from terror and vertigo
I originally thought in order to clamber back into his lab he had to clamber over the caliper membrane's edge and thus sliced himself open like the bell, but eventually I started to think about it that way. His eyes couldn't see and his voice would never speak again due to the initial vacuum exposure he suffered, before in his dying panic he conjured a space with atmosphere. The blood on the floor coming from any ruptured blood vessels from the vacuum, as well as his bloodied half. Crumpled in the fragments of seriglass after he summoned forth the lab proxy within the void and fell upon it with the introduction of gravity. Really I can see it either way, but either way I'm also really not convinced entrati is a reliable narrator. It could be because of his voice actor being so dramatic, but the way he aggrandizes himself while simultaneously admitting he was a loser of a scientist and shit father has stuck with me this whole time. He encountered an extra dimensional being, showed it all of his ugliest emotions, then fled. As it reached out to him he closed the calipers on it's finger, and then greedily studied it to finally prove to the world he was everything he believed himself to be as a scientist. Except the fingers acted almost like a lure, and the knocking at the walls became his telltale heart. Rather than fully admit his guilt ("With all our misdeeds, our excess, our indignity… we are haunted by nothing.") he instead turns it into a monster he must slay. Only begrudgingly admitting it to be a sin of his own making as he shifts his narrative to be the selfless hero, battling not to undo his mistakes but preserve them while shooing away the ghost that forever haunts him.
It could be that the old Orokin used kuva, only understanding what it could do for them, extending their life and allowing for continuity, without fully understanding "how" it works.
And our only use for it is to renew random stats among a pool of stats in certain mods that only work with specific weapons... And very few things actually require it as a resource to build. Why do weapons use kuva as a building component?
@@Voldrim359 Yes, but HOW? I always viewed kuva like the philosopher's stone from fulmetall alchemist mixed with the en sabah nur method of body transference in x men: apocalypse movie. Technology, to be more precise: eons advanced nanotechnology, that deterministically recreate the owner "blueprint" in another compatible body (except the new body does not changes externally), with the caveat that the host consciousness is supressed and imprisoned like the philosopher's stone (that's why I thought the kuva clouds "screamed" in the siphon missions). So Orokin had it way before Entrati. But voruna's lore + duviri's lessons kinda shattered this, it seems kuva is way more "mystic" and less "scientific". And it seems it started BEFORE Entrati.
@@ML7WL we don't know... I know that's how Kuva works. That's why in the lore, when the beast of bones killed a few orokins and everyone laugh because it was like nothing and they just come back, that's before Ballas transformed the beast of bones into Ordis. I know this too, the Entrati family was also orokin, included Albretch. Now for my guess, how they do it? I guess they create the bodies like Grandmother's story, like, there is machine that helps them and all too and she just destroyed that with their bodies, impending some orokin to change bodies again. Now after i understood that, i can guess the fear of the orokin for the Tenno using the transference
"We end as we began" At the start of warframe we are asleep. If we really are an avatar of the man then like Rell and Albrecht we must sleep to put a stop to him.
It could also mean that we need to lose our void powers, while Albrecht needs to remove anything void touched and also close the wall of Lohk. Because that's how we actually began.
What if Entrati did shake the hand when he went into the void? Making a deal with Wally just like we did? He maybe shook the hand wanting to survive and therefore also gaining the knowledge to build the new technology?
It makes sense. This could possibly explain why one of him ended up in Duviri and the other one returned to the real world. Also it gives new meaning to his words: "was it I who escaped, or the other?" which may refer not to Man in the Wall but the version of him who made the deal
im glad albrecht is finally getting more attention (both ingame and within the community). ive always thought that he was the most important addition to warframe's lore but a lot of people were unaware of/havent listened to the albrecht lore tablets in deimos. he's one of my favorite characters even though he's had barely any screentime so far always love your videos, glad you're back!
This is the most in depth "lore" video I've done, so I hope you enjoy! It does, of course have my special blend of speculation based off seemingly mundane details but... it's packed with actual verifiable lore as well!
I had no idea those tablets existed...and they're so well voice acted, damn, I feel like a moron as I usually do look for lore bits and read/listen through journals,notes,grimoires etc.
@@DeLawrence97 i absolutely love albrecht’s voice actor. he did an amazing job portraying a wise yet troubled man, and the delivery on some lines (such as “was it me who escaped, or the other?”) never fail to give me chills
Theory: When Loid hits the casket with the hammer he is not sealing him in there. Look at the hammer. What does it look like? IMO it looks like some sort of compact version of the cosmic clock. And we know hammers in Warframe have abilities. For example, the Synoid Heliocore can scan things, award kavat codes, and even create a specter of an enemy. What if that hammer sends Entrati back in time. To 1999. Just before Arthur shows up.
Either the hammer or coffin is made out of Seriglass - do note the broken glass sound when it cuts to black. Going further with your theory, Albrecht always feared "which one of him - Albrecht or Man in the Wall" escaped/got out of the Void. Maybe he went back in time, but the wrong Albrecht reached the final destination.
@@r4yker442 I think I also have a theory about who Arthur is. Drawing parallels to Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. I think the man in the wall corrupts Arthur and he becomes the Stalker. And maybe the Mag noise we hear in the background isn't actually Mag but a corrupted version that is now an Acolyte. AKA The Stalker and his Acolytes.
This is making extreme sense to me, as it would virtually explain everything, how he was able to invent everything so easily, because he invented it seemingly infinite times...meaning he is in an infinite time loop trying to do something, it would also explain the Scholar in Duviri already having had the lab before.@@r4yker442
Maybe the entrati we see in the 1999 trail is like that of the drifter a version of him from another timeline where he ended up taking the hand of the man in the wall instead of running from it
Something I always noted was that a couple of the Holdfasts (being resurrected by the Void) have seen copies of themselves in the Reliquary Drive. Yonta says she doesn't like being in there because she swears she "saw herself grinning" out of the corner of her eye Edit: It's also interesting that the living Albrecht seems to be a normal human, while the painting and description of the Scholar seem to be a full-blown blue Orokin body.
My theory was that since he was basically eviscerated and blinded during his first meeting with the Man in the Wall, that they performed continuity on him shortly after, either to heal him or because he was mutilated so badly that he couldn't function well (not sure how advanced their healing methods were during Orokin era pre-voidtech) and he didn't bother modifying his new body because he was slowly growing suspicious of himself.
@@KoranthusHim taking his time modifying his body makes sense when you take into account that the only thing “Orokin” about his new look is his golden fingernails.
As far as I can, when he said “thanks kiddo I think I will” that right there was it’s goal, take out our light in our soul and replace with his dark ways and elderitch plan for chaotically merging the void with reality, he is doing all of this to get out of his wall form he is truly encrusted inside of, but not all powerful since he needs our help, maybe another force of light overshadows him
26:44 Well, I think it's many fingers that are all the same finger. Sort of a quantum mechanics thing. Each reliquary drive holds, or is _connected_ to the _same_ finger(s).
I think we can apply to "Man in the Wall" something more literal. Mind you, the seriglass bell crashed into the "wall" in the portal before shattering. That may be the moment of importance in this story. This physical contact with the walls of the void Entrati perceived may be the very wall he's trapped in. This would also fall into place of the idea that he is both him and the other, the shrodinger of personal existence really. As for Oull, you nailed that one right on the head for me. I was ready to type a theory out but had to be patient because I knew you'd cover it you clever bastard. I have a firm belief that Oull is a requiem that was developed far past the others as a sort of key to bypass the original eight. Of course, only one soul would have that knowledge, and that same soul just so happens to be possibly both himself and the other.
Ive noticed the number 9 keeps showing up in warframe recently, might be looking into it too far but DE is know for there details: •Zaramin countdown from 10-2 before the accident •There are 9 requiem mods •There are 9 lore segments in duviri (which seem to follow the lore) •wally has 9 attached fingers (looks like he has 2 sets of hands on the wall, but its him as the vitruvian Man, which is just 2 positions of hands?) •And warframe 1999 being released soon. And in basic numerology the number 9 represents completion but not the end (almost turning a page), which if done intentionally is genius for DE because the 10th year anniversary happened it seems to be a page being turned for warframe story. Just some interesting food for thought and why i love DE story telling and attention to detail. What else has anyone noticed? Also frost was the 9th warframe released and got the heirloom skin lol
Its worth noting that in the Tennocon Demo, the Coffin Albrecht stepped into is still visible on the later part of the demo where the tenno teleports back into the lab, and the coffin is visibly dented, so he or atleast his body is possibly still there
I like to think that maybe the void wasn't evil and chaotic until entrati fell into it unshielded. Perhaps it took on its current form because of his emotional state and it was some neutral alternate space before. It would truly make him the father of the void
I think he did mention something about possibly have created the man in the wall in the first place. After all there have been many mentions of the void being nothing but a blank slate. My take is he fell into the void, it took on his form, and now it wants to be free.
I'm trying to figure out what entrati meant when he said he would die empty. It sounded like his thoughts and memories where sucked out of him and manifested, his consciousness sucked into the vacuum of the void and leaving his body empty.
@TheDsIEGE I have always appreciated your well thought out and well edited content. Thanks, and please keep up the great work. I know it gets overwhelming and frustrating.
Something I find interesting is how Daughter has the specific Orokin look, which is long arms and blue skin but Albercht doesn't. And the 'truth' ballas preaches, with his deacons, seem oddly familiar to how we see Albercht dressed like
Here's a theory I just came up with regarding the Railjack reliquary drives. Canonically there have been multiple Railjacks as it has been referenced in the Old War, however the way they were powered is confusing, as it was heavily hinted the finger in the drive is the one missing from Albrecht's other, but only one was cut off. It is my theory the other fingers came from versions of Albrecht in other parallel timelines that were collapsed during the Tenno's deal. Considering the nature of Eternalism, there are, or rather were infinite parallel timelines that fractured with every single choice. With that, Albrecht's encounter with the Void is canon in a significant number of them, confirmed by the fact that during the deal several other Tenno wearing Zariman suits are killed (if Albrecht didn't encounter his other, there wouldn't have been Void travel and therefore the Zariman). The collapsed timelines therefore each had a finger, one that Wally could have taken and later given to the Operator timeline. As I'm writing this however, I'm starting to believe that we or someone else will have to make another deal so Wally's plan could come to fruition. Even though the timelines were reduced from infinite to two during the Zariman deal, the rules of Eternalism hadn't changed, and the timelines would have continued splitting after that point. Imagine a tree with an absurd number of branches, and cutting off all of them but one. The branch left would continue growing and branching off itself. If Wally wants just one fruit off that tree, he will have to cut the branches again
I was sending the link to the Tennocon 2023 to a friend that didn't watch it yet and I began watching it again. Something I found curious was how Loid talked: "Ah. The 'helpful' Necraloid my Albrecht had made" I didn't register before that he says "My Albrecht" rather than simply "Albrecht" or "Master Albrecht". He is most likely aware of alot of things but more so the "Kalymos Sequence" and the fact there are multiple Albrechts. Either that or he's just way too emotional about Albrecht, which he is but I'd prefer to believe he is aware of the Man in the Wall too.
I think it's worth consideration that at the time of the recording, Albrecht has barely any accent of note. There is a character in Duviri, however, with an inexplicably very thick germanic accent. The Prisoner. He rather conspicuously lacks a mask, however there is a masked counterpart of him (sharing the same model) clad in all black, who occasionally appears in hidden places, tapping on walls and cackling maniacally. Sound familiar? While I don't think he is *the* Albrecht Entrati, he could be a sort of snapshot of him, the same way Kullervo's jailor is a snapshot of Ballas. This would then place his visit to Duviri to much earlier in his life than the last recording.
Awesome as always. I am always so happy when I see new video from you. One small thing. WHen you talked about the wall/gate, and when Albreht got out but he couldn't speak, and wrote "Close it". I think his daughter did close it. And by closing the door, the finger/fingers were cut off. I think, once he got healed and got back to work, they reopened the door/wall/gate again.
Well, that was more of what was insinuating, that the door needed to be closed permanently, and she did not... And because of that, whatever came back has had free reign since.
Yes and no. He doesn't require humanity to live. He's the void itself. Hence his name "the indifference". There is a theory though. That the man in the wall is a manifestation of Albert entrati's fear of the void. The theory is pretty solid because as explained in angels of zariman. When void energy meets intense emotion, it makes something. Hence all the strange statuesque manifestations sticking out of he walls on the zariman. Manifestations of the chaos and madness that took place there.
@@TheDsIEGE yeah as someone who within the last year and a half has been doing nothing but learning 40K, the only two things i can say is dont get intimidated with the amount of material, and that there really isnt a good place to start reading. just find somthing that sounds cool to you and go from there. The Emperor Protects.
@@TheDsIEGE Its nothing crazy, essentially Warhammer chaos gods are made from overwhelming negative emotions, feeding into the Warp(Void) for 40k or the Chaos Realms in fantasy. Essentially worship/zeal in a particular direction empowers that affiliated god. Khorne demands blood, Slaanesh deals in pleasure, etc.
You have to remember that it's not impossible to build in the void. We've had orokin towers for a long time so I don't think it's strange to have the lab being built there. I just wonder why the outside of the orokin towers look so different from the outside of the lab.
I love his description of “death”, and how he felt like the void was a vacuum for his own mind and person. He would die “empty”. This is totally self-reflection, yet he speaks it so certainly as if it wasn’t a poetic painting of his own panic. Or was it? The writing here is so good and deep and no one is talking about this specific part. It begs the question if the void has a “mirror”property to it, wherein whatever entity has contact with the void also has a “mirror” or “copy” sucked out of them and brought into existence out of the sheer causal force a physical being interacting with the void causes. We talk really early in the video about how much power the void might entail or contain, but I also wonder if that power is relative to the being that interacts with the void. Entrati is missing something within himself when he interacts with the void. As are the Tenno when they “make a deal” with Wally. What if these entities are actually the missing parts of themselves (ourselves) the void manifests from their (our) interaction with it? That would be crazy!
@@TheDsIEGE Id say exist outside in the physical universe without so.e sort of sorrugate os "vessel". And by existing i mean indefinetly without the need for nothing like the tenno.
@@gabrielzanandrea2334 yes but the question is what does Wally want, it is capable of reducing Eternalism down to 2 timelines, which is such a vast amount of power yet it just wants to get out? or turn it into the void as well?
I would love to see like a 3 minute short. Of the entire experiment in real time. Like the sheer horror of a scientist knowing he's about to open the most terrifying door in existence while everyone looks on.
i know this is probably not what is happening but the 1st thing i thought about the "you are late" on the warframe 1999 finale was directed towards us the tenno
A thought occurs if i remember correctly the Orokin had an obsession with biological technologies. One being in in relation to immortality the other could be in relation to access to the void. Seeing as Albrects physical body created a reaction so by this logic the void towers create at least some of the power he desired.
I love stuff like this, Eldritch and Cosmic horrors beyond my comprehension 😳 Also, you ask "is this Albrecht Entrati, the Man in the Wall, or both?" Considering how both Drifter and our Tenno coexist, safe to say its the same for Albrecht and the Man in the Wall Like a shadow, its connected to us. Always following, always watching
The “”You Are LATE”” line may well be part of the story of 1999 but it’s also an inside joke on the fact that game/game mode is about 16 years late as DE was trying to get that made about 16 years ago so them finally been able to make it means it’s running late.
@@therobustempyrean1436DE's previous game to Warframe, Dark Sector, famously was a project they couldn't make the way they wanted to. They were forced by Publishers to make it into a gritty modern day game very much like Gears of War and other games of the era. 1999 is a sort of reivindication of those ideas that never came to fruition.
You touched on it briefly here but listening to this got me thinking what if the man in the wall is the person playing the game and entrati broke the 4th wall at some point and ventured into our world and then got stuck here so from a prespective he is stuck behind the wall. I doubt they would take such an approach for something so heavily involved in the lore but it was just a thought that I had
I think when tenno chooses how to act with the kuva the man in the wall is taking to him to remind him about the Deal that gived the tenno his abilities
Phenonemal work as always, this video helped to piece together even more lore that I was confused about. The Man in the Wall/ Albrecht Entrati, two figures with lots of mystery. I do wonder, what will happen if this wellspring of power (the Void) does get closed, will our Warframe universe go back to normal, or will something else happen. SO many thoughts, so many questions, can't wait for this update. Keep up the FIRE!
I don't know but it doesn't seem like anyone is willing to let go of the void power so... It's possible that and maybe other doors, like the one in entrati's lab that the man in the wall opens for that excal, may never get closed...
@@TheDsIEGEi'd say the void is very much like Pandora's box and that box was opened long ago no single faction would be willing to give it up the corpus want it for money and power the grineer want it to subjugate the system and even we are guilty as we see it as the only way to bring the system in balance. I don't see the tenno calling for a meeting where we can try to work things out even we choose violence one way or another you could say the whole system has developed a dark void at its core.
Wow, what an amazing vid. All the lore and the details, creating the connections so perfectly. I was having epiphanies left and right. Thanks so much for this!
11:12 BOOOOO jumpscares nuuuuuuuuuuu XD 12:43 BOOOOO another jumpscare nuuuuu XD Here's some prose regarding this vid: He's a friend, an ally. He's an enemy, your own eternal nemesis. He's your benefactor, the source of your power. He's a hunter, grand orchestrator of miseries. To define him is to define the concept of thoughts. To describe him is to describe the unfathomable. To rationalize his existence is to irrationalize the Void. Accept, and become an eternal guard against him. Reject, and become an even bigger pawn in his grand psalm. One thing is for sure: He smiles with insidious amusement. Excellent video as always :)
Good God, Warframe is the most interesting and also the most frustrating game i've ever played in terms of understanding what the everloving hell is actually going on. Props to DE for managing to make a game who's lore isn't a rabbit hole- instead, it's a whole damn warren. Warframe has moved into Across the Spider-verse territory and I am terrified but also so excited to see what happens next. It's also so mindblowing to me that as we move further into the stroyline, it becomes clear that Wally is pretty much THE big bad guy of Warframe, and that every major plot point in this game can all be traced back to Albrecht, his research, and that damn encounter. He is the one figure responsible, directly or indirectly, for almost... *everything.* The sheer weight of that alone is impressive in a game that has taken years to get to this point. -I could be the only one who's slightly simping over '99 Albrecht, and I'm okay with that.-
Albrecht describing his pain could also just be his body failing but not dying, like in the quote "Lacerated in flesh and heart. Scattered as the bell glass. Spilling blood and stomach on the cold, stone floor." the shattered glass cut his skin which he begins to bleed out and him suffering from cardiac arrest or heart attack, and the "blood and stomach" may just be the bleeding from the cuts and vomit. Which could explain how he recovers
I find it interesting that Entrati consistently refers to kuva in his word choices and references. I wonder if Kuva was first discovered before the radiation wars. This could mean the existence of Kuva could have inspired Entrati to further research the void.
You know, this entire time I've been getting back into the game, I honestly thought this guy was the dude from that Ubisoft game and they did a collab lol
Thank you SIEGE Priceless work, I would love if you made a recap of all the story. or maybe after the new quest. Also why DE don't make a movie or a series about the lore I would love to watch that.
Both of those things are on the agenda, but... together. Everyone does regular lore videos. when I get into actual quest recaps, They are most likely going to have some acting in them to spice things up!
Tho do wish DE gave us more lore as most of what we have is based on what we think fits into the lore we have. Like maybe Albrecht when crossed back over didn't trully return as could have been a parallel world.@@TheDsIEGE
This gets me thinking about the Requiem mods and how we use them to kill Liches/Sisters. I could be way off but it seems like the Requiem words, and by extension Void Tongue, hold a power great enough to disrupt and cut off Continuity and whatever other crazy things Kuva does.
Kuva is void powered, the requiem words might be like a counter frequency nullifying or drowning out the continuity. Like the lich is saying I. AM. IMMORTAL. And the words spell YOU. ARE. NOT.
Are you sure Kuva wasn't discovered before Albrecht found the void? In the Khra section at 12:45 Albrecht mentions he has been alive for centuries. The Xata entry also mentions Continuity at 3:27 and at 4:00 he says the Orokin were already immortal. I doubt their medical science was good enough that they were considered immortal and lived for centuries even before Kuva(and if they were why bother taking new bodies? Maybe the connection to the void was only discovered later?
That passage is written in hindsight. And in the beginning passage, he is saying that both continuity and wanderlust were where the orokin had turned their gaze... basically they wanted two things, to reach the stars (wanderlust) and live forever (continuity) and that's where he comes in.
When he says lacerated in flesh and heart spilling his stomach out. I think he means “in flesh” the cuts from the glass, “in heart” the emotional trauma and “spilling his stomach” throwing up. I do t think he was dying.
It could also be like quantum entanglement. Like the void and it’s doppelgängers have always existed there, as mirror opposites. Quantum entanglement is two particles, one positive and one negative, switching the polarity of one also switches the other regardless of distance. Perhaps the man in the wall isn’t a void entity but more like a gate keeper, Cerberus type entity, controlling the barrier between the physical universe and the mental universe. Polarized mirror universes. 🤷🏻♂️ just brainstorming.
as much as im aware of, the door did close after entrati was able to escape. But it was at the moment when the man in the wall was crossing the finger through the portal. Probably the orokin were able to repllicate it, somehow, thats why we see so many fingers around haha.
the one missing finger from the man in the wall, and the amount of fingers we hear of/see, it reminds me of the situation in adventure time where they cut off the lich's hand and it falls into the multiverse and multiplies to match the number of timelines and universes.
I need help with the lore 1. The orokin are humans but more advance. Was their advancement due to entrati, explaining 1999 where everything changes due to his interaction with the void? 1.5 if that’s the case, what happens after? The orokin empire happens and they just forget about the void for a little bit or leave it to entrati? 2. Deimos use to be a regular planet? Like a science lab for entrati, but his hand in the infected caused something to happen? I still don’t get Deimos Everything else ima just have to play the game to figure out
So... We don't know a lot about the orokin. We know they were quite advanced and could maybe make it to another planet but... entrati saying Continuity and Wanderlust was where he comes in insinuates that the vast majority of the orokin's power and ability to move around the universe was because of the void. Before him, there was no void, yet He proved it existed and could be tapped into. From here they all believed it was just an energy but... to some it came with a friend. And Deimos is infested because the Son purposely let a strain of it loose and it took over the planet. That's why they are pissed at him during the Heart of Deimos.
Yeah every planet used to be regular. But my assumption for what 1999 is the accidental creation of warframes. Remember Ballas saying they had to resort to infested for the sentient war? I assume The Man in The Wall had a hand in the technocyte virus spreading on Deimos, causing human Excalibur to come, and be infected to become Excalibur. (Notice how Arthur is constantly coughing?)
I actually did one a while back although I'll probably have to update it... And soon I'll be doing a deep dive on Sacrifice so in that we'll get into umbra.
The multiple fingers despite the man in the wall only missing one finger is because there are infinite timelines in which the finger is severed, so entrati was able to harvest as many as he wanted.
Hey @TheDsIEGE awesome video, one thing i've been meaning to ask is what do you think those giant constructs are? the ones that Albrecht - according to flesh and blood Loid - started but never finished, what purpouse could they serve? Obviously we will find out more in December once the patch drops I'm just curious what your thoughts on them are Maybe it's gonna be a necramech thing where we use them but what would we be fighting with such a giant construct? is it pacific rim-like robot vs wally smackdown?
I know that we got to wait next year for Warframe 1999 and learn the origin about the "Orokin", but what about the Sentients(Tau)? I know that or probably don't know that that they were made by the "Orokin" , but where or when do they take place in? And afraid of the Void and it's their greatest weakness?
Radiation Wars could also hint at not straight up nuclear war as we think of it but instead Neutron Bombs or salted nuclear weapons. Looking at what Arthur is shooting at in 1999 its possible someone proposed trying neutron bombs on them. the idea being the machine part being unable to function without the meat which would be killed by the neutron bomb in theory. Salted bombs are straight up nuclear weapons designed for increased fallout to irradiate wide areas to deny them.
There was a thing back in the 90s when people said the Sun would cause a storm and affect all technology, i don't remember correctly because i was born in the 2000s. Maybe Warframe 1999 is a universe where that happened, but infinitely worse
so there is something people havent noticed about those requiem logs he left for us. each of them contains orokin text except ris. when i first started to translate them i thought ok this has errors in it as fass read pass and vome read homm, but when i changed the order of the words based on the order albreacht reads the requiem mods descripitions in the lohk entry i got this " LOHK LOHK ZHATEA JAHOO HOMM (blank) PASS VPLT 1 MDL L VPLT 2 KRA." khras entry itself containing the period of end of sentence symbol. if you change the requiem words in this message to albreachts said meanings for those words you get "VOID VOID TRUTH FORM HOMM (blank) PASS VPLT 1 MDL L VPLT 2 TIME." i think homm is home in this instant. which is albreacht directly telling us he was the real him to passed back through the portal and that we need to pass VPLT 1 MDL L VPLT 2 time, which could be about the fact that the cosmic clock destroys to unlock the labs
Wow....That is...wow. This whole video make me rethink my concept of Albrecht. I'm currently working on story with elements from Warframe and I wanted to make him an antagonist. Now? Now I may make him a broken man who is willing to do whatever the cost to stop The Indeference.
I think you may be looking a little too literally into the description of his injuries. Because if we analyze a lot of what he's said he does use a lot of metaphor for his speech. What I think he meant by being lacerated in flesh and heart, is his body and soul being injured. Because he does describe his journey as harrowing and being driven mad by it as he was retreating back through the door. The heart often is referred to the soul too just in general. Because of this I don't think he was near death as you describe. Just shaken to the core with the cuts on his arm.
Speculation ahead: Since you mentioned the possibility of Albrecht and us being in a position of "There's the original person, and the void entity in one body" It makes me wonder how does the Drifter fit into that? Remember how the scholar in Duviri said that there would come a time when Duviri would be needed? Perhaps the Drifter is what he referred to. The time could either be in the future, or it could be referring to the time when the Drifter's finally attains control over their powers (Thanks to the events that happen during New War, and Natah's hand) and escapes from from Duviri. And all of this is big hypothesis time and very much speculation of course. Maybe what Albrecht hopes for, is that this "person", ie:. us, the player, who is essentially (thanks to the void jump accident), two people, can both work together against the third entity in the mix, Wally? Perhaps he realized at some point that he couldn't fight The Man in The Wall by himself, and could never do it... so he made plans for us to eventually figure it out and combat Wally. Also, a bit of a tangent: I also wonder how the heck Vessels fit into all this. I wonder if they have anything to do with 1999 at all? What if they're literally "vessels", like ships, and are meant for us to traverse the raw void itself? Perhaps they are what's meant to let us traverse time and dimensions to eventually reach other universes, like that of 1999? I know Railjacks and possibly most Orokin vessels are capable of void jumps to move around, but maybe Vessels are special in that they let someone either visit or see other realities and or times? That last part is just a big "whoa dude imagine" moment from me, just a thought c:
The void or 'indifference' has always been with us. Exposure to the void allows that indifference to manifest. It seemingly takes control at will but I would say that the doppelganger is not really another us but us seeing ourselves in a sort of out of body experience. One other thing that I've noticed but maybe it's just me. I've never had a 'hey kiddo' moment while I was walking around the ship as the tenno. I've even tried to transfer back into the tenno to see if I could come face to face with myself but I've never gotten there and seen the man in wall ... EVER. Now THAT is food for thought.
A quick note... when talking about the door in the video, the idea was that the door has been left open when it appears that Entrati wanted to CLOSE IT, which I believe he meant for good, not just in the moment, something clearly euleria did not do, given what she talks about during the heart of deimos. So the door has been left wide open. But... let me stress that there is no passage CONFIRMING the door was closed to supposedly cut off the man in the wall's fingers and further... the only person who we can definitively say was injured, especially in their arm, was entrati. So the thing to ponder is... if the "other" escaped as Entrati theorized, is it not possible those fingers belonged to him and their metamorphosis after void exposure and how it interacted with real world material, Human fingers (or more) was how void technologies were actually developed, maybe by an entity that already knew how it all worked? FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
Only thing that poke a hole here is that wally at the end of the new war is indeed missing his finger, which is in our warp drive
in trying to get powerful enough to fight the man in the wall, we are unknowingly making him more powerful.... for we are him, and he is us.. !!!!
We are the evil, we seek to destroy.... !
It's mentioned in game that wally lost his finger. Dr. Entrati wasn't sure if he'd escaped or if his Doppelganger did. Something that in fact confirms Dr. Entrati was the one that escaped. His Doppelganger wouldn't have had those doubts.
As mentioned by someone else. At the end of new war wally is in fact missing a finger.
There is a door that isn't closed in the laboratory the big void portal door that the incursions are escaping from
Albrechts voice acting is sooo good, I would listen to an entire audiobook of him narrating his discoveries of the Void
They should have Stefan Rudnicki do an audio book read of "The Palimpsest of Spacetime". I'd buy it.
He does audiobooks as well. There are a few on audible!
@@TheDsIEGEplease reach out to Rebecca about this this needs to be a thing!
Omg yess
@@TheDsIEGE Meanwhile I want to hear him to read the entirety of Vor's speech
The voice artist for albrecth entrati needs an Oscar
Stefan Rudnicki is his name and I agree!
@@TheDsIEGE Warframe has some of the best villain voiceacting ever. From Ballas to now potentially Wallbrecht...
The voice of the ancestor darkest dungeon
He also narrated the Enders Game audio books. The man is good.
Fuck the Oscar's!
"if you look in to the abyss the abyss stares back " comes to mind in the way the void acts
Why would the Operator be seen like that then? Decieving, sarcastic. doesn't sound a lot like the Operator.
Others probably pointed it out, but its no coincidence that Oull's requiem symbol begins changing only after its initial form is an eye. It needs to look at your enemies's selves to fully become them as a person and strike at them the same way it struck Entrati.
I’m such a huge lore nerd yet never knew this.
Its also interesting that the symbol shown in the video looks very similar to our Operator/Drifter switch button.
Alternative reading: Blood and stomach on the floor doesn't equate to his intestines hanging out - but instead nausea and emissions caused from terror and vertigo
Exactly. In my opinion, hes just bleeding a bit from some cuts caused by the glass and he vomited.
I originally thought in order to clamber back into his lab he had to clamber over the caliper membrane's edge and thus sliced himself open like the bell, but eventually I started to think about it that way. His eyes couldn't see and his voice would never speak again due to the initial vacuum exposure he suffered, before in his dying panic he conjured a space with atmosphere. The blood on the floor coming from any ruptured blood vessels from the vacuum, as well as his bloodied half. Crumpled in the fragments of seriglass after he summoned forth the lab proxy within the void and fell upon it with the introduction of gravity.
Really I can see it either way, but either way I'm also really not convinced entrati is a reliable narrator. It could be because of his voice actor being so dramatic, but the way he aggrandizes himself while simultaneously admitting he was a loser of a scientist and shit father has stuck with me this whole time. He encountered an extra dimensional being, showed it all of his ugliest emotions, then fled. As it reached out to him he closed the calipers on it's finger, and then greedily studied it to finally prove to the world he was everything he believed himself to be as a scientist. Except the fingers acted almost like a lure, and the knocking at the walls became his telltale heart. Rather than fully admit his guilt ("With all our misdeeds, our excess, our indignity… we are haunted by nothing.") he instead turns it into a monster he must slay. Only begrudgingly admitting it to be a sin of his own making as he shifts his narrative to be the selfless hero, battling not to undo his mistakes but preserve them while shooing away the ghost that forever haunts him.
It could be that the old Orokin used kuva, only understanding what it could do for them, extending their life and allowing for continuity, without fully understanding "how" it works.
Kuva allows them to transfer their minds to another body, just like a suit, flesh was their clothes
And our only use for it is to renew random stats among a pool of stats in certain mods that only work with specific weapons... And very few things actually require it as a resource to build. Why do weapons use kuva as a building component?
@@Voldrim359 Yes, but HOW? I always viewed kuva like the philosopher's stone from fulmetall alchemist mixed with the en sabah nur method of body transference in x men: apocalypse movie. Technology, to be more precise: eons advanced nanotechnology, that deterministically recreate the owner "blueprint" in another compatible body (except the new body does not changes externally), with the caveat that the host consciousness is supressed and imprisoned like the philosopher's stone (that's why I thought the kuva clouds "screamed" in the siphon missions). So Orokin had it way before Entrati. But voruna's lore + duviri's lessons kinda shattered this, it seems kuva is way more "mystic" and less "scientific". And it seems it started BEFORE Entrati.
@erricro3198 Voruna's lore indicates that atleast the high orokin (or just Tuvul) knew about some part of the "how" perhaps?
@@ML7WL we don't know... I know that's how Kuva works. That's why in the lore, when the beast of bones killed a few orokins and everyone laugh because it was like nothing and they just come back, that's before Ballas transformed the beast of bones into Ordis.
I know this too, the Entrati family was also orokin, included Albretch.
Now for my guess, how they do it? I guess they create the bodies like Grandmother's story, like, there is machine that helps them and all too and she just destroyed that with their bodies, impending some orokin to change bodies again.
Now after i understood that, i can guess the fear of the orokin for the Tenno using the transference
"We end as we began" At the start of warframe we are asleep. If we really are an avatar of the man then like Rell and Albrecht we must sleep to put a stop to him.
If that really is the end then I think we're still along way off from the end of warframe, but all stories end.
Nora is besiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide herself with admiration!
@@montypython5521 yeah the end of this plot line maybe. Warframe is not just a story, it’s an entire living universe that can grow infinitely.
It could also mean that we need to lose our void powers, while Albrecht needs to remove anything void touched and also close the wall of Lohk. Because that's how we actually began.
What if Entrati did shake the hand when he went into the void? Making a deal with Wally just like we did? He maybe shook the hand wanting to survive and therefore also gaining the knowledge to build the new technology?
You're onto something.
You're right, a split in possibility similar to the operator and drifter. He made the deal and was saved, and another version of him was not.
It makes sense. This could possibly explain why one of him ended up in Duviri and the other one returned to the real world. Also it gives new meaning to his words: "was it I who escaped, or the other?" which may refer not to Man in the Wall but the version of him who made the deal
From what i'm understanding, he did not touch the doppelganger. Which possibly means there are countless versions of him because he didn't.
@MageSkeleton all it takes though is for one of those countless versions of him to have done so
I bet he owns a fashion line during 1999. How else did he fund his lab?
And his drip... Definitely possible.
im glad albrecht is finally getting more attention (both ingame and within the community). ive always thought that he was the most important addition to warframe's lore but a lot of people were unaware of/havent listened to the albrecht lore tablets in deimos. he's one of my favorite characters even though he's had barely any screentime so far
always love your videos, glad you're back!
This is the most in depth "lore" video I've done, so I hope you enjoy! It does, of course have my special blend of speculation based off seemingly mundane details but... it's packed with actual verifiable lore as well!
@@TheDsIEGE your speculations are always fascinating & definitely make me think more out-of-the-box when it comes to warframe and it’s lore :)
I had no idea those tablets existed...and they're so well voice acted, damn, I feel like a moron as I usually do look for lore bits and read/listen through journals,notes,grimoires etc.
@@DeLawrence97 i absolutely love albrecht’s voice actor. he did an amazing job portraying a wise yet troubled man, and the delivery on some lines (such as “was it me who escaped, or the other?”) never fail to give me chills
imo he is the most important character in the lore, warframe would not have happened without him.
Theory: When Loid hits the casket with the hammer he is not sealing him in there. Look at the hammer. What does it look like? IMO it looks like some sort of compact version of the cosmic clock. And we know hammers in Warframe have abilities. For example, the Synoid Heliocore can scan things, award kavat codes, and even create a specter of an enemy. What if that hammer sends Entrati back in time. To 1999. Just before Arthur shows up.
Either the hammer or coffin is made out of Seriglass - do note the broken glass sound when it cuts to black.
Going further with your theory, Albrecht always feared "which one of him - Albrecht or Man in the Wall" escaped/got out of the Void.
Maybe he went back in time, but the wrong Albrecht reached the final destination.
@@r4yker442 I think I also have a theory about who Arthur is. Drawing parallels to Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. I think the man in the wall corrupts Arthur and he becomes the Stalker. And maybe the Mag noise we hear in the background isn't actually Mag but a corrupted version that is now an Acolyte. AKA The Stalker and his Acolytes.
This is making extreme sense to me, as it would virtually explain everything, how he was able to invent everything so easily, because he invented it seemingly infinite times...meaning he is in an infinite time loop trying to do something, it would also explain the Scholar in Duviri already having had the lab before.@@r4yker442
this dude might be onto something
@@AClockhead103dude actually nailed it lmao. Well, not exactly about the hammer itself (as far as we know). But yeah he did timetravel to 1999.
Maybe the entrati we see in the 1999 trail is like that of the drifter a version of him from another timeline where he ended up taking the hand of the man in the wall instead of running from it
Something I always noted was that a couple of the Holdfasts (being resurrected by the Void) have seen copies of themselves in the Reliquary Drive. Yonta says she doesn't like being in there because she swears she "saw herself grinning" out of the corner of her eye
Edit: It's also interesting that the living Albrecht seems to be a normal human, while the painting and description of the Scholar seem to be a full-blown blue Orokin body.
My theory was that since he was basically eviscerated and blinded during his first meeting with the Man in the Wall, that they performed continuity on him shortly after, either to heal him or because he was mutilated so badly that he couldn't function well (not sure how advanced their healing methods were during Orokin era pre-voidtech) and he didn't bother modifying his new body because he was slowly growing suspicious of himself.
@@KoranthusHim taking his time modifying his body makes sense when you take into account that the only thing “Orokin” about his new look is his golden fingernails.
Proper lore videos for Warframe are few and far between,. excellent work!
As far as I can, when he said “thanks kiddo I think I will” that right there was it’s goal, take out our light in our soul and replace with his dark ways and elderitch plan for chaotically merging the void with reality, he is doing all of this to get out of his wall form he is truly encrusted inside of, but not all powerful since he needs our help, maybe another force of light overshadows him
when does he say that?
@@Koranthus when the Tenno offer him a light
@@wandenreiche12345 ah on the Zariman, gotcha
The point regarding the two of them overlapping in that four-handed statue is genius, i never realised thr symbolism you pointed out
26:44 Well, I think it's many fingers that are all the same finger. Sort of a quantum mechanics thing. Each reliquary drive holds, or is _connected_ to the _same_ finger(s).
I think we can apply to "Man in the Wall" something more literal. Mind you, the seriglass bell crashed into the "wall" in the portal before shattering. That may be the moment of importance in this story. This physical contact with the walls of the void Entrati perceived may be the very wall he's trapped in. This would also fall into place of the idea that he is both him and the other, the shrodinger of personal existence really.
As for Oull, you nailed that one right on the head for me. I was ready to type a theory out but had to be patient because I knew you'd cover it you clever bastard. I have a firm belief that Oull is a requiem that was developed far past the others as a sort of key to bypass the original eight. Of course, only one soul would have that knowledge, and that same soul just so happens to be possibly both himself and the other.
Ive noticed the number 9 keeps showing up in warframe recently, might be looking into it too far but DE is know for there details:
•Zaramin countdown from 10-2 before the accident
•There are 9 requiem mods
•There are 9 lore segments in duviri (which seem to follow the lore)
•wally has 9 attached fingers (looks like he has 2 sets of hands on the wall, but its him as the vitruvian Man, which is just 2 positions of hands?)
•And warframe 1999 being released soon.
And in basic numerology the number 9 represents completion but not the end (almost turning a page), which if done intentionally is genius for DE because the 10th year anniversary happened it seems to be a page being turned for warframe story.
Just some interesting food for thought and why i love DE story telling and attention to detail. What else has anyone noticed?
Also frost was the 9th warframe released and got the heirloom skin lol
Its worth noting that in the Tennocon Demo, the Coffin Albrecht stepped into is still visible on the later part of the demo where the tenno teleports back into the lab, and the coffin is visibly dented, so he or atleast his body is possibly still there
I like to think that maybe the void wasn't evil and chaotic until entrati fell into it unshielded. Perhaps it took on its current form because of his emotional state and it was some neutral alternate space before. It would truly make him the father of the void
I think he did mention something about possibly have created the man in the wall in the first place. After all there have been many mentions of the void being nothing but a blank slate. My take is he fell into the void, it took on his form, and now it wants to be free.
You're the Vattividya of Warframe. Without this channel and your explanations, I honestly wouldn't care this much about the lore.
I'm trying to figure out what entrati meant when he said he would die empty. It sounded like his thoughts and memories where sucked out of him and manifested, his consciousness sucked into the vacuum of the void and leaving his body empty.
@@qryveinlook at his uncanny smile he's possessed by the man in the wall or something of that matter
Another great video. I'm so glad you're back. Your content is top shelf.
Hey, thank you! I really appreciate that!
@TheDsIEGE I have always appreciated your well thought out and well edited content.
Thanks, and please keep up the great work. I know it gets overwhelming and frustrating.
@@docwil2541same
When you are reminded that Warframe is a grimdark universe.
Something I find interesting is how Daughter has the specific Orokin look, which is long arms and blue skin but Albercht doesn't.
And the 'truth' ballas preaches, with his deacons, seem oddly familiar to how we see Albercht dressed like
Here's a theory I just came up with regarding the Railjack reliquary drives. Canonically there have been multiple Railjacks as it has been referenced in the Old War, however the way they were powered is confusing, as it was heavily hinted the finger in the drive is the one missing from Albrecht's other, but only one was cut off. It is my theory the other fingers came from versions of Albrecht in other parallel timelines that were collapsed during the Tenno's deal. Considering the nature of Eternalism, there are, or rather were infinite parallel timelines that fractured with every single choice. With that, Albrecht's encounter with the Void is canon in a significant number of them, confirmed by the fact that during the deal several other Tenno wearing Zariman suits are killed (if Albrecht didn't encounter his other, there wouldn't have been Void travel and therefore the Zariman). The collapsed timelines therefore each had a finger, one that Wally could have taken and later given to the Operator timeline. As I'm writing this however, I'm starting to believe that we or someone else will have to make another deal so Wally's plan could come to fruition. Even though the timelines were reduced from infinite to two during the Zariman deal, the rules of Eternalism hadn't changed, and the timelines would have continued splitting after that point. Imagine a tree with an absurd number of branches, and cutting off all of them but one. The branch left would continue growing and branching off itself. If Wally wants just one fruit off that tree, he will have to cut the branches again
I just assumed that the Orokin cloned the finger like they do the Grineer. 🤷
This lore literally made mention of Xaku's 3 & 4. (Gaze, Accuse, Deny & The Vast Untimed.)
Yes, Xaku's entire frame is three beings together, the trinity, if you will. I'll be getting into that in a future video.
@@TheDsIEGE I await your works of lore being that Xaku has increasingly become one of my favorites to play throughout the game.
I was sending the link to the Tennocon 2023 to a friend that didn't watch it yet and I began watching it again.
Something I found curious was how Loid talked: "Ah. The 'helpful' Necraloid my Albrecht had made"
I didn't register before that he says "My Albrecht" rather than simply "Albrecht" or "Master Albrecht". He is most likely aware of alot of things but more so the "Kalymos Sequence" and the fact there are multiple Albrechts.
Either that or he's just way too emotional about Albrecht, which he is but I'd prefer to believe he is aware of the Man in the Wall too.
I think it's worth consideration that at the time of the recording, Albrecht has barely any accent of note.
There is a character in Duviri, however, with an inexplicably very thick germanic accent. The Prisoner.
He rather conspicuously lacks a mask, however there is a masked counterpart of him (sharing the same model) clad in all black, who occasionally appears in hidden places, tapping on walls and cackling maniacally. Sound familiar?
While I don't think he is *the* Albrecht Entrati, he could be a sort of snapshot of him, the same way Kullervo's jailor is a snapshot of Ballas. This would then place his visit to Duviri to much earlier in his life than the last recording.
Awesome as always. I am always so happy when I see new video from you.
One small thing. WHen you talked about the wall/gate, and when Albreht got out but he couldn't speak, and wrote "Close it". I think his daughter did close it. And by closing the door, the finger/fingers were cut off. I think, once he got healed and got back to work, they reopened the door/wall/gate again.
Well, that was more of what was insinuating, that the door needed to be closed permanently, and she did not... And because of that, whatever came back has had free reign since.
My guess is Wally works like a chaos god from warhammer, malicious, but ultimately requiring the existence of humanity in order to live.
I keep hearing that. Might need to look into that games full lore
Yes and no. He doesn't require humanity to live. He's the void itself. Hence his name "the indifference".
There is a theory though. That the man in the wall is a manifestation of Albert entrati's fear of the void.
The theory is pretty solid because as explained in angels of zariman. When void energy meets intense emotion, it makes something. Hence all the strange statuesque manifestations sticking out of he walls on the zariman. Manifestations of the chaos and madness that took place there.
@@TheDsIEGEThats like going to college tbh
@@TheDsIEGE yeah as someone who within the last year and a half has been doing nothing but learning 40K, the only two things i can say is dont get intimidated with the amount of material, and that there really isnt a good place to start reading. just find somthing that sounds cool to you and go from there.
The Emperor Protects.
@@TheDsIEGE Its nothing crazy, essentially Warhammer chaos gods are made from overwhelming negative emotions, feeding into the Warp(Void) for 40k or the Chaos Realms in fantasy. Essentially worship/zeal in a particular direction empowers that affiliated god. Khorne demands blood, Slaanesh deals in pleasure, etc.
You have to remember that it's not impossible to build in the void. We've had orokin towers for a long time so I don't think it's strange to have the lab being built there. I just wonder why the outside of the orokin towers look so different from the outside of the lab.
I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying there's A LOT of it in there that apparently looks exactly like HIS home.
Well, what no greater a challenge than the toughest obstacle there is:
You. Your shadow. Your own reflection.
... Yourself.
EXACTLY.
I love his description of “death”, and how he felt like the void was a vacuum for his own mind and person. He would die “empty”. This is totally self-reflection, yet he speaks it so certainly as if it wasn’t a poetic painting of his own panic. Or was it? The writing here is so good and deep and no one is talking about this specific part. It begs the question if the void has a “mirror”property to it, wherein whatever entity has contact with the void also has a “mirror” or “copy” sucked out of them and brought into existence out of the sheer causal force a physical being interacting with the void causes.
We talk really early in the video about how much power the void might entail or contain, but I also wonder if that power is relative to the being that interacts with the void. Entrati is missing something within himself when he interacts with the void. As are the Tenno when they “make a deal” with Wally. What if these entities are actually the missing parts of themselves (ourselves) the void manifests from their (our) interaction with it? That would be crazy!
Drawing energy from the void, the Orokin could create """new""" matter for materials which would have been needed after the failure of the Zariman.
Without question. Crazy thing is given what we know the void CAN do, what can't it do?
@@TheDsIEGE Id say exist outside in the physical universe without so.e sort of sorrugate os "vessel".
And by existing i mean indefinetly without the need for nothing like the tenno.
@@gabrielzanandrea2334 yes but the question is what does Wally want, it is capable of reducing Eternalism down to 2 timelines, which is such a vast amount of power yet it just wants to get out? or turn it into the void as well?
I can't wait 😢 I need to watch this now
Almost time!!!!
I would love to see like a 3 minute short. Of the entire experiment in real time. Like the sheer horror of a scientist knowing he's about to open the most terrifying door in existence while everyone looks on.
i know this is probably not what is happening but the 1st thing i thought about the "you are late" on the warframe 1999 finale was directed towards us the tenno
Well, in a way... you were right.
A thought occurs if i remember correctly the Orokin had an obsession with biological technologies. One being in in relation to immortality the other could be in relation to access to the void.
Seeing as Albrects physical body created a reaction so by this logic the void towers create at least some of the power he desired.
I love stuff like this, Eldritch and Cosmic horrors beyond my comprehension 😳
Also, you ask "is this Albrecht Entrati, the Man in the Wall, or both?" Considering how both Drifter and our Tenno coexist, safe to say its the same for Albrecht and the Man in the Wall
Like a shadow, its connected to us. Always following, always watching
Jungian "Shadow" :O
I need a tutorial how to make yourself sound like the man in the wall like you did towards the end of the video. It’s so good!
The “”You Are LATE”” line may well be part of the story of 1999 but it’s also an inside joke on the fact that game/game mode is about 16 years late as DE was trying to get that made about 16 years ago so them finally been able to make it means it’s running late.
What game, or game mode would that be?
@@therobustempyrean1436DE's previous game to Warframe, Dark Sector, famously was a project they couldn't make the way they wanted to.
They were forced by Publishers to make it into a gritty modern day game very much like Gears of War and other games of the era.
1999 is a sort of reivindication of those ideas that never came to fruition.
You touched on it briefly here but listening to this got me thinking what if the man in the wall is the person playing the game and entrati broke the 4th wall at some point and ventured into our world and then got stuck here so from a prespective he is stuck behind the wall. I doubt they would take such an approach for something so heavily involved in the lore but it was just a thought that I had
I think when tenno chooses how to act with the kuva the man in the wall is taking to him to remind him about the Deal that gived the tenno his abilities
Phenonemal work as always, this video helped to piece together even more lore that I was confused about.
The Man in the Wall/ Albrecht Entrati, two figures with lots of mystery. I do wonder, what will happen if this wellspring of power (the Void) does get closed, will our Warframe universe go back to normal, or will something else happen. SO many thoughts, so many questions, can't wait for this update. Keep up the FIRE!
I don't know but it doesn't seem like anyone is willing to let go of the void power so... It's possible that and maybe other doors, like the one in entrati's lab that the man in the wall opens for that excal, may never get closed...
@@TheDsIEGEi'd say the void is very much like Pandora's box and that box was opened long ago no single faction would be willing to give it up the corpus want it for money and power the grineer want it to subjugate the system and even we are guilty as we see it as the only way to bring the system in balance. I don't see the tenno calling for a meeting where we can try to work things out even we choose violence one way or another you could say the whole system has developed a dark void at its core.
@TheDsIEGE that is true, the void has become an integral part of the warframe universe at this point.
Wow, what an amazing vid. All the lore and the details, creating the connections so perfectly. I was having epiphanies left and right. Thanks so much for this!
So basically we became a part of the Man in the Wall forever like he said huh... "both in here (the Void), and out there (in real space)"
11:12 BOOOOO jumpscares nuuuuuuuuuuu XD
12:43 BOOOOO another jumpscare nuuuuu XD
Here's some prose regarding this vid:
He's a friend, an ally.
He's an enemy, your own eternal nemesis.
He's your benefactor, the source of your power.
He's a hunter, grand orchestrator of miseries.
To define him is to define the concept of thoughts.
To describe him is to describe the unfathomable.
To rationalize his existence is to irrationalize the Void.
Accept, and become an eternal guard against him.
Reject, and become an even bigger pawn in his grand psalm.
One thing is for sure: He smiles with insidious amusement.
Excellent video as always :)
Good God, Warframe is the most interesting and also the most frustrating game i've ever played in terms of understanding what the everloving hell is actually going on. Props to DE for managing to make a game who's lore isn't a rabbit hole- instead, it's a whole damn warren. Warframe has moved into Across the Spider-verse territory and I am terrified but also so excited to see what happens next. It's also so mindblowing to me that as we move further into the stroyline, it becomes clear that Wally is pretty much THE big bad guy of Warframe, and that every major plot point in this game can all be traced back to Albrecht, his research, and that damn encounter. He is the one figure responsible, directly or indirectly, for almost... *everything.* The sheer weight of that alone is impressive in a game that has taken years to get to this point.
-I could be the only one who's slightly simping over '99 Albrecht, and I'm okay with that.-
Albrecht describing his pain could also just be his body failing but not dying, like in the quote "Lacerated in flesh and heart. Scattered as the bell glass. Spilling blood and stomach on the cold, stone floor." the shattered glass cut his skin which he begins to bleed out and him suffering from cardiac arrest or heart attack, and the "blood and stomach" may just be the bleeding from the cuts and vomit. Which could explain how he recovers
This has been phenomenal. I can't wait for more :3
This was so well put together and thought out, I learned a lot and thoroughly enjoy the ideas you presented towards the end. Keep up the great work!
Your vids are great, thank you fir taking the time to explain the lore.
Thank you for taking the time to watch!
Here I come back after whispers in the walls and so I listened and looked, they were and are.
I find it interesting that Entrati consistently refers to kuva in his word choices and references. I wonder if Kuva was first discovered before the radiation wars. This could mean the existence of Kuva could have inspired Entrati to further research the void.
You know, this entire time I've been getting back into the game, I honestly thought this guy was the dude from that Ubisoft game and they did a collab lol
Thank you SIEGE Priceless work, I would love if you made a recap of all the story. or maybe after the new quest.
Also why DE don't make a movie or a series about the lore I would love to watch that.
Both of those things are on the agenda, but... together. Everyone does regular lore videos. when I get into actual quest recaps, They are most likely going to have some acting in them to spice things up!
What if the same thing that happened to Albercht happened to the lotus in the ending of the new war??? Her hand was smoking that same way.
She definitely shook a hand with Wally. It was revealed in The New War.
@@ZenithGaming9 Maybe that's when she got her hand back after it was chopped off?
These lore videos always make me question an ponder the warframe lore itself more deeply
That's why I do it! I love when people actually get into the stories. This is really interesting world Warframe has built!
Tho do wish DE gave us more lore as most of what we have is based on what we think fits into the lore we have.
Like maybe Albrecht when crossed back over didn't trully return as could have been a parallel world.@@TheDsIEGE
I REALLY hope that the good/neutral/bad system comes into play here.
This gets me thinking about the Requiem mods and how we use them to kill Liches/Sisters. I could be way off but it seems like the Requiem words, and by extension Void Tongue, hold a power great enough to disrupt and cut off Continuity and whatever other crazy things Kuva does.
Kuva is void powered, the requiem words might be like a counter frequency nullifying or drowning out the continuity.
Like the lich is saying I. AM. IMMORTAL.
And the words spell YOU. ARE. NOT.
Love these deep dives into the lore. Thank you! ❤
Are you sure Kuva wasn't discovered before Albrecht found the void? In the Khra section at 12:45 Albrecht mentions he has been alive for centuries. The Xata entry also mentions Continuity at 3:27 and at 4:00 he says the Orokin were already immortal. I doubt their medical science was good enough that they were considered immortal and lived for centuries even before Kuva(and if they were why bother taking new bodies?
Maybe the connection to the void was only discovered later?
That passage is written in hindsight. And in the beginning passage, he is saying that both continuity and wanderlust were where the orokin had turned their gaze... basically they wanted two things, to reach the stars (wanderlust) and live forever (continuity) and that's where he comes in.
Great video! Super interesting stuff surrounding Dr.Entrati can't wait to find out more 😁
The ending of the video with oul is amazing. The quest comes out tomorrow and i can wait to play it and see what things really are.
What if Albrecht is time looping from 1999 to now In his own words, "We end as we began"
30:00 you have to notice the digital clock striking 12, is there any significance there?
Y2K perhaps
When he says lacerated in flesh and heart spilling his stomach out. I think he means “in flesh” the cuts from the glass, “in heart” the emotional trauma and “spilling his stomach” throwing up. I do t think he was dying.
It could also be like quantum entanglement. Like the void and it’s doppelgängers have always existed there, as mirror opposites. Quantum entanglement is two particles, one positive and one negative, switching the polarity of one also switches the other regardless of distance.
Perhaps the man in the wall isn’t a void entity but more like a gate keeper, Cerberus type entity, controlling the barrier between the physical universe and the mental universe. Polarized mirror universes. 🤷🏻♂️ just brainstorming.
as much as im aware of, the door did close after entrati was able to escape. But it was at the moment when the man in the wall was crossing the finger through the portal. Probably the orokin were able to repllicate it, somehow, thats why we see so many fingers around haha.
Awesome video as always!!!
Albrecht maybe wasn’t close to death but that “spilling blood and stomach” might just be bleeding and vomiting. Not sure how much that changes tho lol
Well it doesn't sound fun, I'll tell you that much...
the one missing finger from the man in the wall, and the amount of fingers we hear of/see, it reminds me of the situation in adventure time where they cut off the lich's hand and it falls into the multiverse and multiplies to match the number of timelines and universes.
I need help with the lore
1. The orokin are humans but more advance. Was their advancement due to entrati, explaining 1999 where everything changes due to his interaction with the void?
1.5 if that’s the case, what happens after? The orokin empire happens and they just forget about the void for a little bit or leave it to entrati?
2. Deimos use to be a regular planet? Like a science lab for entrati, but his hand in the infected caused something to happen? I still don’t get Deimos
Everything else ima just have to play the game to figure out
So... We don't know a lot about the orokin. We know they were quite advanced and could maybe make it to another planet but... entrati saying Continuity and Wanderlust was where he comes in insinuates that the vast majority of the orokin's power and ability to move around the universe was because of the void. Before him, there was no void, yet He proved it existed and could be tapped into. From here they all believed it was just an energy but... to some it came with a friend. And Deimos is infested because the Son purposely let a strain of it loose and it took over the planet. That's why they are pissed at him during the Heart of Deimos.
@@TheDsIEGE about deimos, in Tyana Pass, Tyl Regor mentions a rhyme about belric and rania, suggesting that they are responsible for deimos
Yeah every planet used to be regular. But my assumption for what 1999 is the accidental creation of warframes.
Remember Ballas saying they had to resort to infested for the sentient war? I assume The Man in The Wall had a hand in the technocyte virus spreading on Deimos, causing human Excalibur to come, and be infected to become Excalibur. (Notice how Arthur is constantly coughing?)
I just love albrecht design lol, its so stylish
I just want to say, you're awesome.
Well, hey... Thank you! That's really nice!
Amazing video 😮
Love the video omg so many questions after this video but I have a question would you ever do a stalker lore video ?? An umbra?
I actually did one a while back although I'll probably have to update it... And soon I'll be doing a deep dive on Sacrifice so in that we'll get into umbra.
Yes pls I love umbra an I wana know more about him an stalker I was looking an I couldn’t find it
Been a while i didnt return to Warframe and this channel.
The writers really need praise. The prose is immaculate.
I'm really looking forward to finding out the lore behind him (as for someone who loves studying the lore behind everything) and Loid
I like marble-Wally's eye slits to be a little reference to Quantum craziness.
It's one thing that got me curious about... What about Parvos? And the place he lives in that got him to live long.
That's a really good question.
DE should nominated you as a narator for story telling. Well done!
Thank you! I'd love that job!!!
The multiple fingers despite the man in the wall only missing one finger is because there are infinite timelines in which the finger is severed, so entrati was able to harvest as many as he wanted.
Bruh, imagine if the real Albrecht is stuck in that wall because of the accident
Hey @TheDsIEGE awesome video, one thing i've been meaning to ask is what do you think those giant constructs are? the ones that Albrecht - according to flesh and blood Loid - started but never finished, what purpouse could they serve? Obviously we will find out more in December once the patch drops I'm just curious what your thoughts on them are
Maybe it's gonna be a necramech thing where we use them but what would we be fighting with such a giant construct? is it pacific rim-like robot vs wally smackdown?
I know that we got to wait next year for Warframe 1999 and learn the origin about the "Orokin", but what about the Sentients(Tau)? I know that or probably don't know that that they were made by the "Orokin" , but where or when do they take place in? And afraid of the Void and it's their greatest weakness?
I cant wait for this update
His thoughts before the bell breaking could be an interesting link to how and why the void manifested the way it did
Definitely leads right to the man in the wall's current behavior no doubt.
Radiation Wars could also hint at not straight up nuclear war as we think of it but instead Neutron Bombs or salted nuclear weapons. Looking at what Arthur is shooting at in 1999 its possible someone proposed trying neutron bombs on them. the idea being the machine part being unable to function without the meat which would be killed by the neutron bomb in theory. Salted bombs are straight up nuclear weapons designed for increased fallout to irradiate wide areas to deny them.
There was a thing back in the 90s when people said the Sun would cause a storm and affect all technology, i don't remember correctly because i was born in the 2000s. Maybe Warframe 1999 is a universe where that happened, but infinitely worse
God's l love this game. Thanks for the lore videos dude!
so there is something people havent noticed about those requiem logs he left for us. each of them contains orokin text except ris. when i first started to translate them i thought ok this has errors in it as fass read pass and vome read homm, but when i changed the order of the words based on the order albreacht reads the requiem mods descripitions in the lohk entry i got this
" LOHK LOHK ZHATEA JAHOO HOMM (blank) PASS VPLT 1 MDL L VPLT 2 KRA."
khras entry itself containing the period of end of sentence symbol.
if you change the requiem words in this message to albreachts said meanings for those words you get
"VOID VOID TRUTH FORM HOMM (blank) PASS VPLT 1 MDL L VPLT 2 TIME."
i think homm is home in this instant. which is albreacht directly telling us he was the real him to passed back through the portal and that we need to pass VPLT 1 MDL L VPLT 2 time, which could be about the fact that the cosmic clock destroys to unlock the labs
You make great vids, thanks man.
Wow....That is...wow. This whole video make me rethink my concept of Albrecht. I'm currently working on story with elements from Warframe and I wanted to make him an antagonist. Now? Now I may make him a broken man who is willing to do whatever the cost to stop The Indeference.
I think you may be looking a little too literally into the description of his injuries. Because if we analyze a lot of what he's said he does use a lot of metaphor for his speech.
What I think he meant by being lacerated in flesh and heart, is his body and soul being injured. Because he does describe his journey as harrowing and being driven mad by it as he was retreating back through the door. The heart often is referred to the soul too just in general.
Because of this I don't think he was near death as you describe. Just shaken to the core with the cuts on his arm.
Speculation ahead:
Since you mentioned the possibility of Albrecht and us being in a position of "There's the original person, and the void entity in one body" It makes me wonder how does the Drifter fit into that?
Remember how the scholar in Duviri said that there would come a time when Duviri would be needed? Perhaps the Drifter is what he referred to. The time could either be in the future, or it could be referring to the time when the Drifter's finally attains control over their powers (Thanks to the events that happen during New War, and Natah's hand) and escapes from from Duviri.
And all of this is big hypothesis time and very much speculation of course. Maybe what Albrecht hopes for, is that this "person", ie:. us, the player, who is essentially (thanks to the void jump accident), two people, can both work together against the third entity in the mix, Wally? Perhaps he realized at some point that he couldn't fight The Man in The Wall by himself, and could never do it... so he made plans for us to eventually figure it out and combat Wally.
Also, a bit of a tangent: I also wonder how the heck Vessels fit into all this. I wonder if they have anything to do with 1999 at all? What if they're literally "vessels", like ships, and are meant for us to traverse the raw void itself? Perhaps they are what's meant to let us traverse time and dimensions to eventually reach other universes, like that of 1999? I know Railjacks and possibly most Orokin vessels are capable of void jumps to move around, but maybe Vessels are special in that they let someone either visit or see other realities and or times?
That last part is just a big "whoa dude imagine" moment from me, just a thought c:
The void or 'indifference' has always been with us. Exposure to the void allows that indifference to manifest. It seemingly takes control at will but I would say that the doppelganger is not really another us but us seeing ourselves in a sort of out of body experience. One other thing that I've noticed but maybe it's just me. I've never had a 'hey kiddo' moment while I was walking around the ship as the tenno. I've even tried to transfer back into the tenno to see if I could come face to face with myself but I've never gotten there and seen the man in wall ... EVER. Now THAT is food for thought.
check out the youtube short I posted, I think you'll find that very interesting.
i love this voice so much