Warframe Lore 101: The Man in the Wall
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- Your local loremaster-in-training talks about potentially the largest threat in the game Warframe, The Man in the Wall
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shout out to incomprehensible beings who make shady deals involving unfathomable power
gotta be one of my favourite genders
Same here, gotta love that representation lol
Bonus points if it's doing all of that for shit and giggles, like the outsider from Dishonored
The right Tenno in the wrong place can make all the difference in the system...
So wake up, Tenno. Wake up and... smell the ashes.
Thanks, I appreciate it!
My pronouns are Xata/Lohk
still can't believe that it was an actual man in the wall
I feel like he took that form on purpose to make fun of us; like up until The New War he could only appear as a reflection of is current observer, but after the events of TNW he was finally able to take his own "true" form where he made the epithet we gave him literal rather than metaphorical.
@@mr.cobalt1668 That would really fit as many of the theories I've seen have talked about how Wally could just be a reflection of those that are unique that have entered the void. So making his true form based on our perception of him would fit with that.
I mean Rell is autistic coded, makes sense he would be extremely literal.
LMAO
Same I broke out in laughter as soon as he rolled up 😂
before new war: wall might mean a metaphorical wall between the void and the rest of the universe...
after new war: literal man in the literal wall
Hey kiddo
Ballas definitely needs his own video. Our abusive space uncle is probably the most important villain in the game next to Wally and actually has his story completed, unlike most other villains.
And the ending was the best part of his story by far. If it'd been between ending him or forever defeating Wally, I'd give Wally his finger(s) back just so he can put Ballas down in every single timeline. That guy made The Indifference seem chill... Thank the Void and everything in it he never got a podcast.
We don't need a video: "This is Ballas; Ballas is cringe"
DE: oh ya we got Crossplay for ya...just had to whip out the whole summoning the devil thing for it
Us:what
DE:what
I completely forgot we got that message from Baro, so when I was researching and found that I was like "Oh...OH...Oh this is bad!!!"
@@corgthemighty Yeah, I haven't been playing warframe for the longest so I wasn't here for that message, but when you brought it up I was like "Oh...were cooked..."
i love how DE made a usually mundane QoL update a point in the lore
At the Zariman 10-0
Wally: "I can save them from the crazy adults that are trying to kill you, all of them..."
Your Tenno: "So what's the cat-"
Wally: "except you, you are going to die in every oher timeline with only two remaining"
Wasnt it that all the timelines where the tenno exist get erased with only the 2 potential results of the 1 decision?
@@ParagonGoetiaw h a t? Actually i would be very happy if u could explain that scene where the tenno shook hands with wally and more tennos appeared that started dying?
@CertifiedForklifter so all of the you that took the deal. Wally killed off. Leaving only 1 of you. Immortal and unkillable. The other older you was the other choice. Or never even given the option. But the void still can be molded with emotion and imagination. Older you probably might of went mad as a kid and created the duviri and forgetting it. Now the duviri is made from the void but it was created to be a safe space from the void. Cuz of story reasons young you were out of commission. So wally did his thing and looked around to find a you that survived without taking the deal. Found older you in an endless loop of death and (in the most literal sense) gave you a hand to break the loop. Once you were out wally used older you as an anchor to bring back young you. That's why you can start the game with older you off the bat. It's you but with a slightly different start but in the end linked to younger you through the deal. Now in one major story you play as older you but no powers. Why? I think older you needed a jump start to link to your young self. That jump start came as a concentrated void beam about to atomize older you. You didn't get hit but the amount of energy so and so was blasting out was enough to finally save both the yous.
@@CertifiedForklifter When the tenno made the deal with Wally, all other versions of reality where the tenno existed got destroyed, besides 2, The one where the Tenno took the deal (Our reality), and the one where the tenno did not (Drifter/ Duviri reality).
@@vladyvhv9579in one of the cutscene of the new war. When wally shook hand with the operator in the zariman 10 0. Look it up
6:39 The devs confirmed the Vitruvian Man carving form the Man in the Wall takes is just like any other form it takes, a facade for the purpose of intimidating or unsettling its audience, but it seems to be a "general form," as you can also see its face overlooking the Sanctum Anatomica from beyond the broken in wall ledge, and beneath the Void Angel mindspace arena in one corner, observing.
Good to know! Thank you for your contribution to the library.
@@corgthemightyto the librart or the leverian?
Honestly whats incredible and scary is that, you dont see devs out there have a baddie in the making that actually influences your gameplay at every step of the way by involving in the crucial process of the gameplay development itself. Its like the devs also made a deal with Wally to let him into our universe as well!
You know too much. 🤫 But yeah, I agree, love how DE implements Wally's stuff.
From how the Wally acts and talks, seems like just a scientist that discovers a new element. You want to pick and prod at, study the very limits of what you can do to it. See all its reactions and of course not destroy any of it you can't recover. However for Wally having these fingers in our realm ties him to time, like nailing down a kite in a tornado. Sure the kite may fly off and the string snaps but hat string left on that nail tells of where the kite was and always would've been. So that also means somewhere around 1999 is when Wally first got trapped in time unable to go back or forward beyond Rell and the Labs.
Given the Necralisk logs imply Albrecht was the first mortal he made contact with and mirrored, the notion of Wally being like a scientist makes an alarming amount of sense.
I don't know about the rest of you guys but I fought Wally was the physical manifestation of the void. I thought he was like the void itself talking to us like for example, when you go to rail Jack and interact with the engine. While he says remember you're nothing without me kiddo, so I always assumed Wally was the boy itself. I never knew there was so much mysterious stuff around him. It she I don't know the voids pronouns but yeah
@@grimrobot2059Basically Wally IS the manifestation of the void, but because the void can mimick anything it makes contact with, and Albrecht was the first to contact it, the void turned into Wally(copy of Albrecht) with every memory and emotion that Albrecht has ever felt. And because Wally’s first contact was an Orokin scientist, he too has a desire for anything he is curious about(albeit he HAS to be curious about it). Which is why he says “hey kiddo” whenever he spooks us. I’m not sure who it was but someone used to call the Tenno “Kiddo” and Wally too has access to that memory. Super fucking cool concept honestly.
@@OK-qj9lw so it's not the void itself, but it's like a creature of the void, a person who shape-shifts into anybody they talk to. I understanded the shape-shifting part but thanks for explaining it to me. I appreciate it. They are really cool. Also, I think they're fingers power the rail jacks? Correct me if I'm wrong
@@grimrobot2059 Yeah I’m pretty sure the fingers allow the Railjacks to warp long distances (like the Zariman was supposed to) and no problem!
"My name is Wally and I'm here to party!" - Mr Stuck in Wall
Bringing a whole new meaning to the term Wallflower
No
Wally took the word "I'm inside your walls" into another level
Who would win in a fight, the terminids or Wally?
@@corgthemighty idk
My lads are so dumb sometimes
Seriusly who the hell go near a ongoing orbital strike and stand there still
Maybe we can beat it with our stupidity
If its a no.... Well i think we are done
Fingers crossed that Wally just really doesn't like bugs for some reason lol
@@corgthemighty yep
Nah bros no longer i am inside your walls guy no more he's now i am your wall dude
As players, we know for certain of the location of two of Wally fingers. Both located in Reliquary Drives - on the players Railjack and on the Zariman Ten-Zero, the latter best seen during Void Armageddon missions.
Now, during talks between Cavalero and Archimedean Yonta onboard Zariman, they discuss the 'finger-relics', wondering how many are left - and Yonta says: "Fewer than there used to be. So long as the originals are safely sealed away of course."
Which would imply Orokin somehow learned to copy the cut off fingers in order to create Reliquary Drives for more than just a few ships - makes sense, the Orokin Empire hardly operated on only 5 ships. Which opens interesting questions.
Is either Zariman or Railjack finger the original? Wally seemed very interested in the finger aboard the Railjack, and in multiple voicelines implied player-Tenno can give the finger back to him, but it seems odd for something this important to be located on a random Railjack. On the other hand, it would make sense for original finger to be aboard Zariman - it was a massively important project for the Orokin, and assumption genuine fingers are more potent than copies and thus neccesary for a ship of this size is not far-fetched, and the Reliquary of Zariman is endlessly assaulted by Void Angels. But then, why pay any interest to the finger inside the Railjack.
That, in my view, gives us three distinct possibilities.
First - one is genuine, and the interest in the other is a bluff.
Second - Neither of the fingers is the original, and Wally trying to get them is a bluff distracting us while He is searching for genuine article.
Third, and my preferred - all of them are genuine. The copy-fingers were created utilizing the Void phenomenon of conceptual embodiment, by which new fingers that are just as 'rea'l as the originals may exist. As such, Wally - a creature born of conceptual embodiment himself - just need a finger, any finger, and it will work. Whether or not it would collapse the 'concept' of the finger in physical reality and other copies would cease to exist or regaining the finger would allow Him to pinpoint the copies so he can destroy them, fully and utterly unanchoring himself from linear time, one can only guess.
yeah, but do remember the Zariman void jump failure was not an accident... would the orokin be foolish enough to send the true finger right back to Wally?
perhaps the entity itself does not know which one is real (the creator of the fingers is probably dead, so as to not risk information leak or mind reading), then it would make more sense to refer to them all as digits, in plural
isnt the finger in the railjacks, just a clone?
I think the drive on the Zariman ten zero is an original since it looks like an actual finger and the zariman was such an important ship I doubt the orokin would use experimental tech on such an important mission.
And the one on the railjack is a copy because it seems to be like a blob of void energy and railjacks were mass produced at the time of the old war.
I think Wally heard his name as "The Man in the Wall" as a deep metaphor for his nature from these funny bipedal mortals, and immediately told himself "It would be really funny and freak them out if I showed myself to them as an actual Man half stuck in a Wall". To which the Tenno Wally would immediately agree as he is that much of a gremlin.
I wouldn't be too quick to differentiate the "great indifference" as a place separate from Wally just yet... I wouldn't put it past an eldritch entity to also *be* the place as well. Kinda like how the meaty lattice of flesh shared across all the infested lifeforms is all part of a single hive-minded body of sorts, so is probably Wally's alien realm also a sort of manifestation of his physical body, with all the little murmur creatures being his antibodies and white cells.
That's probably why he couldn't physically manifest and take over the Origin System before all the things that weakened his shackles in the void started happening through the story: _his actual physical form is unfathomably gigantic and alien,_ so much that we can just walk and parkour inside it like we're Osmosis Jones. Wally is having trouble forcing all of himself into the Origin System because it's like trying to push a big plush toy through the tiny neck of a water bottle.
Edit: Of note is how Corrupted Vor now has a dialogue line about how "a wall of *bone* awaits his joining" when fighting him in the Undercroft, which is part of what makes me see Wally that way. You know all those oddly-colored stone structures and sand in that eldritch realm that is slowly taking over Albrecht's laboratories? Yeah, that's probably not just stone and sand...
Definitely get where you're coming from and thank you for the extra info!
And the Danta Unbound pretty much comfirmed a theory we had for a while that even Parvos Granum has a deal with Wally...
Not only that but Druses even tells you that Parvos can ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND VOID TONGUE?! Not even Albrecht can!
Not outright that he can understand it, only that he's heard him speak it. Possibly under compulsion of Wally.
Pavos is just HIM, that's how chad he is.
awe hell naw. Don't tell me we might have to team up with that hooligan just because he can speak parseltongue 🙃
*Parvos on his way to way to big-brain the interplanetary chess game*
That would explain why he was untouched for all those centuries. You know, being smack dab in the middle of a void. Maybe Parvo and the void entity came to an Accord. After that, they just start chatting each other up. Or maybe the void always had how was been with Parvos. Ever since his Farm Boy days.
"I SAVED THEM. ALL OF THEM. NEVER SAID I'D SAVE YOU."
"You still owe me kiddo"
Hey don't tell them, don't tell your brothers and your sisters
This took a bit to put together but hope you guys enjoy! Next up is the Every Warframe Lore 101 which I'm currently aiming to release on May 1st.
Me opening my second choco milk - oh boy it time for fun!
just letting you know all the original digits were sealed away, all the ones we see ig are replicas as mentioned in the zariman. I'm of the belief that one hand of the doppelganger only equates to a single finger of the whole man in the wall.
@@praneelprasad5042 Yo did you bring enough for the whole class?
@@corgthemighty I got that 18 pack
@@corgthemighty if I had to get more I would put myself into the foreverbox by the sheer amount of sugar….
I have a problem…
“He’s just one finger away from flipping us all off” is what I thought you were gonna say lolol
Feel like Wally is such a a good way to raise the stakes after the New War. He doesn't feel like a villain they shoehorned for the sake of a larger world ending threat. He's been lingering in the background for years, and slowly but surely has made itself a bigger and bigger threat as the mystery unravels.
I agree! And I love how Ballas' actions directly lended him even more power in an understandable way that allows him to take that spotlight effectively.
Rap... Tap...Tap
**punch the wall aggressively*
wooohooo spooky!!!!
@@master_zeus hey kiddo
Did you forget? You owe me!
@@depressedutchman nope
I don't remember which NPC, I think it's Yonta, saying that there are "way more fingers than there should be"
Also, we do have a hint on what Wally's goal might be. Tagfer has a line where he says that the Indifference may not be evil by nature, but is simply trying to understand humans & conscious beings
One of the creepy children's rhymes in Duviri says that too:
"Something's watching through the window.
watching you and me.
Wants what we have, wants to BE us,.
we know that can never be."
@@mr.cobalt1668He wants companionship awww.
"wants to be us"
Oh... He wants to wear our skin.
@@LokiToxtrocity Like...continuity in a way.
@@vladyvhv9579 Yeah I know about that line.
@@LokiToxtrocityHe wants to assimilate our entire reality if thatswhat I'm undetrstanding right. He can't do that once time has his finger though. Essentially he is the epitome of our mimicry. He wantsto have every experience by becoming every experience
Wasn't expecting to see this right before I go to bed but I changed my mind.
Hope you get some good rest!
My favorite interpretation/theory about Wally's actions & behavior is actually Birb 3's, from the Cavia syndicate. I can't find text for it anywhere (or I haven't looked in the right places) but at one point I got a line of dialogue from them saying that they thought Wally was like a very big, powerful child that just wants to play with the other kids but doesn't know *how*.
Given that Wally's first interaction (that we know of) with anyone in the origin system consisted of him mimicking Albrecht Entrati's appearance, smiling creepily at him, and then trying to follow him back out of the void and getting his finger(s) chopped off for his efforts, and the rest of his subsequent appearances have been him trying to interact with people and leave the void, I think Bird 3's theory isn't that far off from the truth.
That on top of the cutscene at the end of the whispers in the walls update, with Wally expressing frustration about how the Tenno aren't upholding their end of their bargain with him, kinda makes me think Wally's intentions were innocent at first (or at least not outright malicious), and the constant rejection afterwards + losing his fingers didn't leave him with a great impression of the folks in the Origin system.
So baby cthulu then...
Our railjack is powered by a finger for hyperspace jumps through the void to get to various proxima missions, I'm concerned..
Can’t stress this enough. 😂 doesn’t cyphilon cy turn on after the finger is found?
Ever stood near the finger?
I can't wait for Red Text to turn out to be wally
Would be really funny because just before the Citrine update, Red Text spoke about the gemussy.
If I may submit my theory as to why The Man in The Wall is missing many fingers while we only ever see him missing one finger, I think one of the Requiem Mods is key. The Mod in question is *"OULL",* the wild card of the set.
Like the other Requiem Mods, *"OULL"* has a Requiem Poem fragment attached to it. Unlike the other Poem fragments, however, this one appears to be a prelude or post-script fragment as putting it anywhere else in the Poem itself breaks its flow.
The fragment reads, "From endless faces, countless forms, a multitude unfolds."
My theory then is that it was not just one Man in The Wall who lost his right index finger but multiple Men in The Wall who all lost their right index fingers at the same time when Euleria Entrati slammed the Untime Door shut on their hand after her father gave the command.
And while it's possible the Orokin were able to replicate the Indifferent Façade of The Man in The Wall to make even more fingers, that may have made even more Men in The Wall as a consequence.
Now then...
*WHERE ARE MY FINGER-BONES, KIDDO?*
Love the theory and the knowledge of the Requiem Words! You get extra credit for that lol. However, it also gives me the hilarious image of Euleria closing the portal, and suddenly a bunch of fingers from different timelines spawn out of the singular one getting cut off like a bunch of gmod ragdolls and everybody's just super confused. (And also, everyone may always submit their theories, it's half the fun [so long as a theory is not intentionally harmful or offensive])
Thank you! This video tickled my Loreframe brain in a big way so you could say that crafting these sorts of theories is somewhat up my alley. I also have to give props to TheDSiege (another Warframe Lore TH-camr that I follow) for putting the pieces in place for me to propose this theory in the first place.
E) Given how the Indifference fucks with time and the mechanics by which Eternalism work, it could be that, rather than Wally losing multiple digits on his hand, *multiple Wallies* each lost a single digit.
If he has time based powers, his finger probably fell into multiple places in the same timeline
With how the Void seems to give physical form to thoughts and feelings and how the Orokin knew that Names gave power to things i can see why it'd want to be known
plus there's that line from that one NPC that goes something like "Big Al looked into the void and was scared shitless"
Thus my take becomes: Wallie is the physical embodiment of the Fear born from the very far reaches of whatever one of the Orokin's most prized scientist could imagine.
lemme put it this way: if HP Lovecraft made contact with the void/wallie prolly nothing big would've happened because he lacked the scientific knowledge to precisely imagine the innerworkings of an Eldritch being, plus the very nature of his work went against it.
Lovecraft COULD feel fear and have the void make his fear manifest, but Entrati? he *knew* shit. He knew enough to precisely imagine how horrendously absurd and powerful this entity he encountered was and so THAT mental image is what the void/wallie used to come into existence: The culmination of Orokin knowledge through the lens of fear and immortalized in physical form. Infinity within boundaries, Non-existence given flesh contained by the very far extremes of logical perception and given purpose through the same means.
Fear can only have a hold over you if you recognize its existence, and oh boy did Big Al recognize he done diddly did fucketh up that day.
8:57 longtime Warframe player here, in the story of Albrecht, Wally only lost 1 (one) finger, however, in the Zariman, Yonta mentions that apparently, the finger(s) can replicate, and that some, such as the fingers powering the Zariman and the the player's Railjack, are mere copies, since "the originals" are safely locked away
The man in the wall is a fantastic antagonist, im pretty sure he is a cosmic troll, doing things for shits and giggles.
As a potential TH-camr I have to say your lore explanations are very good...but also I has a question (from a chaotic lad) how did your character become a loremaster in training?
Why thank you! If you're asking for the in-lore reason as for why my character became a loremaster-in-training, as far as they remember they simply had a love of storytelling and eventually drew the eye of the Loremasters. Definitely nothing lying beneath the surface that I plan on revealing later 😉
Eh i dont think that "taking better care of the solar system" wouldve helped that much, it was basically inevitable that the Orokin empire wouldve grown big enough that at some point there wouldnt be enough resources in the Solar system to sutain it. It wouldve delayed it yeah but not solved the problem forever.
Now if Albrechts void shield hadnt been fucking obliterated looney toons style before falling into the portal they mightve been able to use the void without having to deal with this Eldritch abomination
Also Rell basically not being mentioned ever again after Chains of Harrow is a crime
Big Al should've eaten a sandwich before going in, maybe he wouldn't have stumbled as easily. (Also yes, I hope in the future we get a voiceline from Wally basically pulling a Scooby Doo villain saying "And I would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling Rell")
In the new war, when you see the actual man in the actual wall, you can actually see that he is missing at least one finger. One of his fingers is sort of cut off, and a void like energy spills out of where the finger would be on his hand.
9:16 When he mentioned that he needed one more finger, I realized something. . . Don't we have a giant finger in our railjack? The one at the back of the ship. . . I think were cooked.
The reliquary drives of all the ships use clones of the finger but so they have some residual power that’s why the Tenno can hear Wally near the drive
Now imagine Wally can control ALL RAILJACKS for another war.
So it’s gonna be us, grineer ,corpus,infested,sentient, and the rest of the universe against the man in the wall himself.
9:07 maybe it's something like the operator and the drifter they exist in the present and the future at the same time but only one of them, so because the finger exist in the present he can't just pop up and make a mess
and also there's a big finger stuck in the railjack
For some reason I did not expect some one to say "He's doing what to a space hole?" That caught me off guard. Good video.
We gottem lol, thank you!
words cannot describe how fast i put down everything i was doing while listening to this like a podcast after it was mentioned that they made cross play a lore point and that WALLY is the reason why.
So this has me thinking, whats that finger in our Railjack?
Better not lose it or else we would all die 😁
In the lore it said that the first finger that he lost when albrecht entrati closed the portal on him multiplied and the copies were used to power variety of thing. For example the railjacks.
wow i did not know the man in the wall was also called wally
And now you do!
There's actually a really simple explanation for Wally's missing digits coming back: we've seen a...handful...of them already.
1 is on the Zariman, which the void angels are trying to get at. It's a "reiliquary drive". During the "Angels of the Zariman", we learn that it also was targeted by the Grineer since it bleeds Kuva.
1 is on OUR railjack, powering it or at least allowing for void travel. If you go to the back of the ship, there's a large tomb-like thing that holds a massive finger.
That's at least two of wally's fingers that have locations that we can actively observe. How he's getting them back is up for debate, but it's worth noting that both fingers are spots where the void is actively infringing on. The zariman's void angels and thrax means that the void is CONSTANTLY touching it. And since the other one is on our ship, and we are the new Rell, it means Wally has functionally free access to that finger as well.
So a man who is essentially an eldritch god with control over the Void, where he resides, makes deals with people he finds interesting, and he has funky eyes.
Wally is Dishonored's Outsider!
i was under the impression that wally only lost one finger, but the entrati used orokin biotechnology to clone it to make a bunch for the void drives
My laptop broke some days ago and I havent been able to play warframe since. I have been avoiding all warframe videos since then to stop myself from missing it.
But damn i cant help but click your videos whenever i see them. Hopefully my laptop will get repaired by the end of this month since its in warranty.
Oh no! I do hope your laptop gets repaired soon! Hope my vids have provided some enjoyment amongst that!
... he lost a finger in multiple timelines, and so far.. he's just missing one left...
TWIST, he actual comes to our time. breaking the timeline..
WARFRAME 1999
The handshake that collapsed Eternalism
Ok, so I might be wrong here, but there are multiple fingers that The Indifference had lost, one having a verrryy small chance to show up in the Reliquary Drive of your railjack, and one being in the main thind you have to defend in Void Armageddon on the Zariman.
Also, here's something cool I noticed about Wally. So you know how when Big Al entered the gate and heard Wally calling him by something only his mom called him? He does the exact same thing with the Tenno. When he just randomly appears in your ship, he says "Hey Kiddo", he mimics the Lotus's voice as he says it.
king
nothing else to say other than worth the wait
Aww thank you so much!!! Nothing else to say other than thank you for watching!
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Oo ri kah ris Khra vull rah kah xata?
SHOTARAAAT
Been thinking this since the whispers in the wall quest, he gives big bill cypher vibes
Don't forget a lore tidbit that the very infestation itself is staying subtle and seemingly trying to stay docile when an energy wave that comes from the void had happened for everytine void related quests were done (source taken by nora night) , correct me if I'm wrong though) the infestation, one of the factions that is the most concerning should it let it be, is *afraid*
Parvos most definitely knows about Wally
Wally did this for us
I still think that's what his finger in our railjack capsule is supposed to be. Somehow a representation of the last finger he needs to collect. I don't think it's an actual physical finger but rather a symbolic representation of us relying on his power. So we are probably the last finger. We have to do something for wally for him to 'regain his last digit' we just don't know what so we can't avoid doing it
Dont forget the debate of if Wally is an entity within the void or is the void itself. As for the multiple fingers thing, I feel its an externalism thing. It is both one and several. The same finger severed across multiple instances. Because that one finger is in several places at once, it is scattered across time. It is hinted at with Cy and the reliquary drive, something is there but also not there.
I need to go back to my notes on this, but there being multiple fingers was mentioned in the ten zero as the additional fingers used for void travel were cloned fingers of the original one taken by entratii, and that the one on the ten-zero were one of 7 remaining cloned fingers at the time of the jump. the questions I have would be, if there are 7 full clones, where are the other 6, why are they differentiated from the railjack void finger, and where is the original. Is digits mentioned because the cloning process further separated them meaning they would all have to be put back together? Hopefully we shall learn
This is some ultrakill level of gameplay-to-lore implementation. Cross play cause the big bad made a deal with a scammer merchant sure.
Heh, "could have been a-void-ed", nice one 😂
I like to think of the great indifference as wally s home like how in 40k the chaos gods have their own homes in the void
The Man in the Wall, might just be an angry dev banished to the void by DE.
Could you do a warframe lore video on the infestation and how terrifying the process of becoming a warframe is?
What if I told you those videos are already out 👀
the digitS are probably the ones in the railjack and the zariman
Lloyd is telling us about the man from his lab
I’m happy to see the videos are getting longer. I understand you probly make these videos on tik tok too but personally I prefer videos with landscape orientation. I like the editing tho. Reminiscent of nakeyjakey. Maybe record outside so when you decide to cut to yourself full you can have some very engaging and dynamic backgrounds.
Eyy nakeyjakey is great! And thanks for the feedback. Yup, I do post these to tiktok as well, and I don't typically have the time to re-size all the background images and animations to be vertical and landscape since I work a full-time job as well, but I can definitely understand your preference and appreciate your take about filming outside!
Actually Wally still missing 2 of his fingers, one on our railjack and second on the Zariman
Hes also somehow connected to the reliquary drive at the back of your railjack
If I remember the last finger was in our railjack
Hey man just found this video and loved it, just subscribed👍🏾
I think that the indifference missing fingers is a fun plot point, as you say, he can regenerate, so why would we be bothered if he gets his fingers back?
My personal theory is that it's not so much that he'd be missing fingers, but more that he isn't whole because of what was taken, so long as he is missing a part of anything, that traps him to the strands of khra, almost as if that missing part of him becomes a quantum anchor preventing him from traversing time. If it manages to find its parts and become whole again, it removes the anchor, which far as we know, is the finger powering every Tenno's Railjack 😬
Referring to it as a quantum anchor is a great description. I will say that I believe the finger in the railjacks might just be a clone but I'd have to look back in my notes, but yes, if he gets his finger back it definitely is gonna mess with some timelines.
@corgthemighty I think you may be right on the clone finger part, although I still wonder, depending on the process used to clone these extra fingers, were these quantum properties also copied and carried over? Orokin tech is well known for being a little bit ridiculous when it comes to physics and I love it for this reason, the finger is put somewhere so close to the player that it'd be a missed opportunity to not use it for more story wise 😆
DE: you get cross play
Us: YAAAY i can-
DE: Um thats not a benifit
Us:....w....wha-
DE: You're gonna need all the help you need
Us:....
DE: OkHaveFunWithTheManInTheWallOk BYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
My crackpot theory is that he did only lose one digit; that digit has been duplicated across space and time multiple times throughout everywhere
Was it ever mentioned in any of the videos what the fingers are currently being used for? Most notably, the Railjack? Seeing the finger there always creeped me out.
Planning on covering that in Big Al Part 2!
Spoilers to few last quests and 2 last Tennocons:
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If Wally is locked in our time due to missing finger(s?) and we see him chasing Albrecht back in time, there's something that had to happen between The New War/Whispers in the walls and 1999, my guess is that we'll have to give it it's finger(s?) back for Lotus' life and this will be the part of Lotus Eaters update. So the timeline would be: Lotus made a deal with Wally at the end of The New War (for it not to kill us), Wally threatens us to kill/corrupt Lotus if we don't give it it's finger(s?) back in Lotus Eaters (which will let him travel in time), Wally tries to kill/corrupt Albrecht on January 1st 2000.
Also I wonder what part does Granum have to play in all of that, since he probably had Wally's help even before creating Corpus.
Would the man in the wall be able to break the fourth wall when he gets too powerful and take over digital extremes?
One thing about Wally's interactions with the world that i find interesting is the fact that the infestation is not only aware of it, but is afraid and actively attempts to hide from it. I feel like even the (potentially) solar system wide hive mind being afraid of something is a good indicator of just how dangerous it is.
6:37 you can see in the second right hand he is missing one finger, however in all instances I have seen in game the finger only appears twice (well 2x infinite ) one as a railjack and zermin i think a void drive that allowed void jump , in the start of the zermin quest and the first time you see the finger it was mentioned that there were multiple but as long as the originals are safe everything will be fine
Something really boggles my mind and gives me chills is the fact that the Infestation (the techno virus that can eat PLANETS if left unchecked) is canonically AFRAID of Wally
During the days before the launch of the Whispers In The Walls update there was a new page in Warframe's official site that showed us a conversation between Nora Night and that one Corpus stuck on Deimos collecting samples that we have to defend on bounties. This Corpus knows Deimos's fauna like the back of his hand and he tells us that the Infestation looks afraid and is trying to not stand out, as well repeated knocking this Corpus guy keeps hearing in his dreams.
That whole bit freaked me the fuck out and I loved it
Something even entirely artificial creatures instinctively fear, like being afraid of the dark, Dr who type stuff.
That makes sense. The Labs are right underneath them, so the Infestation can sense the Murmur breaking through.
But does the other Infested out on Eris sense it right now?
After 1999, it looks like they will.
I'd wager the reason why Wally is doing anything, is because he's confined to the void, and he doesn't like that.
I think Wally does things for others if he somehow benefits from it.
It's an interesting poetic justice in how we excluded Rell for his ASD (coded or otherwise) to then be treated the same after the Zairman. Cause up until Chains of Harrow we, Tenno, had been more or less the victim. Learning how we were essentially bullying a kid because he's neurodivergent gave me a bit of emotional whiplash. Considering Rell wasn't the one who made the deal either but had to suffer alone because - once again - we excluded him makes me view the shit we have to go through now as a bit of a redemption for what we've done. The fact that Rell also protected us for years, sacrificing his body and mind to keep basically a God away is a hell of a debt to pay.
Granted, none of this would've happened had the Orokin not been Orokining as they did, but that doesn't excuse being mean to Rell. I mean, we offered a light to the thing tormenting us now but we couldn't be nice to a kid with sensory issues. The irony that Rell was probably the only one of us who actually had a chance to take on The Indifference on a way more level playing field had he had the support is kinda funny tho..
I want to see a timeline where Rell wasn't turned away and allowed to grow his strength even more to a point where he could actually take on Wally cause damn that fight would be legendary. But yeah, his story is definitely tragic, and the fact that some in the community don't know it is something I hope I can help with.
@@corgthemighty lol I imagine Wally getting more and more frustrated over not getting a reaction from Rell meanwhile Rell becomes more and more overstimulated until he just smites Wally to get some peace and quiet. Being neurodivergent myself playing the game is fine but I'd lose my shit 2 seconds into dealing with Wally.
Wait a minute.... Don't our Railjack have a finger in the back 😥????
There used to be a finger in the reiljack now it’s gone
It's still there, you just have to wait a bit before it becomes visible.
Wait a minute… if Wally wants time… then 1999 is…
4:51 this is literally the best comedy skit I've seen in years 👏🤩
This channel is a gem!
I do enjoy peppering the skits in given that they typically come and go pretty quick, still convey info, and allow me to vary up the pacing so its not just all me talking directly to you guys!
You missed out on one piece of man in the wall lore that might shine a light into what his goals are. Dante's encounter with the man in the wall.
For those that don't want to be spoiled. Go to the Leverian with a rank 30 Dante and enter his entry. Navigate all the way to the end and get his Plex card. Druse will then explain how Dante died and that his killer was the man in the wall.
For those that want to know what the man in the wall wants. Existence. "It teaches because it longs to be known, and in being known it exists. And in existing, it survives."
Hmm, an interesting find, thank you for your contribution to the library!
Wally is basically an eldritch god that lives on a similar concept to “I think therefore I am” the more people it can get it’s hooks into and manipulate the more power it gains which is its own can of worms cause Wally may not be outright malevolent but it sure isn’t benevolent either
oh also for the stalker video you might wanna wait for june for jade's shadow update
or not your choise
Thanks for the info!
Didn't big Al make copies of the one finger for the reliquary drives in the rail jacks? If they were originals instead of copies then maybe Wally collected most of them except the one we see missing in the new war?
First video I’ve seen of your channel and I have to ask… do you play dungeons and dragons?
isnt there a finger in our railjack
Digits are the bones in your fingers no? So if you lost a finger you lost multiple digits
Ain’t one of his fingers on the railjack?
Rell was a real G.
Isnt his last finger in the railjack?
or is it in Void Armageddon, ie) Oro Works?
They are copies confirmed by some dialog during the Angels Of The Zariman quest. We don't actually know where his finger is.
So they're coppies? I guess if they can clone grineer and animals, it wouldn't be too hard to clone a big finger.
The railjack finger is both there and isn't, every railjack is powered by the finger, even tho there is only one, whith is only possible because eternalism, and void shenenigans, is not were the finger is, but when, there is multiple fingers on multiple places that are actualy the same, just existing on all its possibilities on the same time.
Technically I think there's only one finger, but all the Reliquaries/Reliquary Drives get to use Void Keys as reference pointers to it so they can work just like they had the real thing in them.
Did you know there’s a finger on the zarmine it’s in the oro work mission
Hmmm...I think I might eh, know where their missing finger is. In the engine room, powering my Railjack.
Also no surprise they can break the fourth wall like that. If anyone knows how to break a 4th wall, it'd be the one inside of it.
Reject story. Become the 4th Wall lol
I think the eternal relic in the zariman is his last finger.
Deeming that the void angels fight tooth and nail to get to it.
What I like about Wally is that he could destroy everything as if he was dusting off his shoulder but doesn't do it cause he finds it amusing seeing how the tenno react.
Not sure if that's 100% true but I like to think it is.
Edit: I just remembered that our railjack uses a finger to power its reliquary drive but you did mention that there were clones made of them. So if that's the case then couldn't Wally just take the cloned fingers and use them, or are they not as powerful as his original?
Just food for thought I guess.
I definitely enjoy the headcannon! I also think that yes, the cloned versions are probably not as powerful as the originals which is why Wally doesn't go for them. But then again, I don't think we know for sure yet, so we'll see what happens.
Your vest reminds me of entrant obols
Corg who's your favorite warframe?
It'd have to be Excal Umbra for me! I like having another guy to run around with!
@@corgthemightyAyy good pick, by far the most interesting Warframe, I really hope we get to see more Umbra frames like him in the future
@@Codename_Crypto Same here! Although I believe there was only one Umbral Transference Bolt made by Ballas, but maybe something similar in the future. What about you?
@@corgthemighty My favorite Warframe is probably Equinox, I especially love her design, the night form looks amazing.
Also, would The Stalker count as an Umbra warframe? I don't really know much about him but he seems to fit the criteria
Equinox is a great pick! Also, not exactly quite sure about the Stalker. I don't think he's an Umbra frame since that would require certain things (namely an Umbral Transference Bolt), but I still have to look into what specifically he is.